Asher Grodman | Farm to Screen Acting

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Asher Grodman: I got excited

at the prospect of getting up

 

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there and this is what I did.

 

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I changed the words, the Hazel I girl.

 

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For her, I think she was mortified,

but for me it was, it was thrilling.

 

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It didn't work out the

way I was hoping it would.

 

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

 

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Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

 

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Marc Preston: All right, welcome back.

 

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Another episode of Story and Craft.

 

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Let's do it.

 

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Good to have you back if

this is your first episode.

 

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Thanks so much for checking out the show.

 

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Good to have you.

 

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Uh, today we are sitting

down with actor Asher Groman.

 

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Uh, you may know him

from the CBS show ghosts.

 

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It's hard to miss him.

 

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He is the only character who does the

entire series, uh, not wearing pants.

 

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He wears just like a sport

coat, shirt and tie, I believe.

 

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But no pants.

 

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I haven't gotten far enough

into the series to find out

 

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why he doesn't wear pants.

 

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But funny guy, I really enjoyed

the conversation with him and

 

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I'm sure you will as well.

 

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It is Asher Groman Day right

here on Story and Craft.

 

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Where are you joining me from today?

 

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I.

 

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Asher Grodman: From home in New York.

 

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Okay.

 

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Where are you joining me?

 

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Marc Preston: I am on the south Texas

coast in a little island called South

 

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Padre, doing the empty nest thing.

 

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And I figured once my youngest

graduated high school, I was trying

 

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to go, you know, full Jimmy Buffet's.

 

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So this is where I ended up.

 

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I like the tropical Mayberry thing

is what I'm going for, basically.

 

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Um.

 

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Oh, very nice.

 

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So with a name like you got a hell

 

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Asher Grodman: of a voice Marc.

 

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Oh, you were, you were made for this.

 

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Marc Preston: Well, you're

very, you're very, very kind.

 

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You're very kind.

 

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Now with a name like Asher Groman, uh,

I'm assuming you're a member of the tribe.

 

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Yes, very same assumption.

 

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Happy, uh, Passover to you.

 

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Thank you so

 

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Asher Grodman: much.

 

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Are you, are you also a, a tribal member?

 

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Oh, yes, yes.

 

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Well then Todd,

 

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Marc Preston: I, I gotta get, my

son is gonna be in town from New

 

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Orleans, uh, from school tomorrow.

 

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So it's, uh, matza ball, soup time,

uh, but down here on the coast, right.

 

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It's kind of weird to be like

in the eighties, but yet I'm

 

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making a big old pot of soup.

 

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I don't know.

 

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It's, uh, you know, I, I

had a sandwich yesterday.

 

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I'm going, oh shit.

 

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Okay.

 

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I'm always forgetting, but you

know, then again, at my age

 

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I'm like, can't do too much.

 

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Matza starts creating other

ancillary issues, you know, so

 

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Asher Grodman: I understand.

 

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So where in New York do you live?

 

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Um, I'm on the west side of

Manhattan, the Upper West side,

 

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um, kind of near Central Park.

 

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Um, I. Yeah, a fairly, fairly

Jewish area of New York.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So we went to a little

Seder last night, you know?

 

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So you, you, you grew up in

the New York area, right?

 

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Yes.

 

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I, um, I, I, I grew up as

crazy as this sounds, um, on,

 

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uh, an old farm in New Jersey.

 

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Um, but we didn't farm anything.

 

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It was like a, a old horse farm.

 

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Mm-hmm.

 

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But we didn't have any horses.

 

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We had, we had at one

time as many as 14 dogs.

 

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Um, really?

 

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Okay.

 

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So, yeah.

 

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So, um, there's two

litters running around.

 

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So, so I, I, I had this very kind

of rural, um, uh, a little isolated

 

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upbringing, but, um, by the time that

I knew I wanted to pursue acting,

 

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which is, uh, like 14, 15, something

like that, then my life suddenly.

 

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It started becoming very New York centric.

 

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Right.

 

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So, uh, we, we grew up like an hour

outside of New York, but then by the

 

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time I hit my, like teenage years, I

was really in New York a lot and, and

 

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New York was kind of, um, for a kid

who didn't really have, um, I guess a

 

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community or a town because it's, it's,

it's a very rural part of New Jersey.

 

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Um, New York became like defacto home.

 

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I gotcha.

 

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Cultural home.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Marc Preston: So I'm assuming, uh, when

you were, when you were on this farm,

 

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you, it's not like growing up in the

suburbs, you go a couple doors down and

 

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go see your friend and like who, who Yeah.

 

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Was it like, uh, was it very isolated or

were you able, I guess, I guess after you

 

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turned 16 and got your driver's license

it got a little easier, I'm assuming.

 

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Asher Grodman: Yeah, I mean, it was pretty

 

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Marc Preston: isolated

 

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Asher Grodman: and, and I think

part of, part of the, the thing

 

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was we just were so far away from.

 

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Other thing.

 

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Like my, my school was, my middle

school was like 25 minutes away.

 

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My high school was 45 minutes away.

 

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Really?

 

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Okay.

 

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Um, so yeah, so there wasn't like a, a

social life to be had out where I grew

 

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up 'cause it was just so, um, quiet.

 

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Um, so yeah, everything

was a, was a distance.

 

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I, I'd be terrified to know how

many hours, how much time I lost

 

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in a car, uh, during high school.

 

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Uh, I think that would

just deeply depress me.

 

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But, um, what it did being is I got used

to, you know, I got used to everything

 

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being a little bit of, a bit of a trek.

 

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And so, uh, you know, I'm,

so you're, you're growing

 

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Marc Preston: up years.

 

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You can call 'em the schlepp

years more or less Yeah.

 

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The

 

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Asher Grodman: schlepp years.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Yeah.

 

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That's good.

 

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And so then I went to college

in New York, which suddenly

 

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made everything very accessible.

 

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Uh, so that was.

 

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That was great.

 

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Marc Preston: Well, it's farmland,

but you're, y'all didn't farm it.

 

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What did your folks do

when you were growing up?

 

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What did they do?

 

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Uh, you mean like professionally vocation?

 

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Yeah.

 

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What was her gig?

 

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Yeah.

 

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Asher Grodman: Yes.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So my, my mom, um, before I was

born was a, a fashion designer.

 

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She was, um, like the vice,

uh, vice president of women's

 

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wear for Ralph Lauren.

 

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And then Oh, really?

 

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The president, yeah,

president of Calvin Klein.

 

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She was, um, uh,

 

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was a very, very hard worker.

 

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Um, and then my dad, uh, was a doctor,

um, and, uh, while I guess probably a

 

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little bit before I was born, started

a clinical laboratory that he then

 

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developed and, and, um, uh, turned

into, you know, the business with

 

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which my, my life was always, um, or at

least my childhood was always circled.

 

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Um, a place called Bio Reference Labs.

 

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So, um.

 

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Yeah, two very hardworking and,

and um, uh, very smart, driven

 

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parents, um, out in the wilderness.

 

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Marc Preston: Well that,

that's a nice balance though.

 

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'cause you know, the fashion thing, I'm

assuming your mother was commuting into

 

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the city or was she able to work remotely?

 

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No, she

 

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Asher Grodman: was done, she was really

out of it, um, by the time I was born.

 

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But she, uh, she's very active.

 

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Um, and they always tell the story

of they got this house, I guess a

 

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year or two before I was born, and I

think my mom was pregnant with me and.

 

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Suddenly like, had time on her hands,

so she wasn't working anymore and just

 

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started, started taking a hammer to

the wall and just like beating through

 

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like, um, drywall or uh, uh, and

finding like the stone underneath it.

 

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So my, my mother is constantly doing

projects and building new, new, uh,

 

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rooms or, or, or things in the yard.

 

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Um, she's a, a very, very

creative, um, visual person.

 

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So,

 

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Marc Preston: uh, well that's, it

sounds like you had a nice balance,

 

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you know, your folks were, uh, you

know, professionals, but you got

 

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this little enclave that you got

to call you, you know, your own.

 

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Now, now were you an only kid or did you

have like siblings around you back then?

 

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Asher Grodman: I have a younger brother

who's a year and a half younger.

 

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Um, and he's, he's kind of followed,

uh, my dad's path, um, a little

 

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bit in the, in the medicine field.

 

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And he's doing work in.

 

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So you're, so you're the

 

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Marc Preston: disappointment

is what you're trying to say?

 

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I'm the

 

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Asher Grodman: disappointment, yes.

 

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I'm definitely the black sheep

of the, the, uh, the family.

 

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Yeah.

 

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And, and, and certainly the, uh, the most

unconventional, uh, of pathways for me.

 

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Um, but it keeps it exciting.

 

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Marc Preston: No, that's important.

 

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I think it's nice when you get together,

you know, I know it's, we're talking

 

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about Passover, you know, you got

the, the Seder and you got the Hagas.

 

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You know, everybody's gotta do their

little reading part, you know, Uhhuh.

 

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And I always kind of found it like

really boring just to kinda read it.

 

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I was like, I kind, I felt like the

need to more perform, not perform

 

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it, but this is a living story.

 

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You know, you want to tell, you

wanna tell a story, you know?

 

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So I don't know if I annoyed my

family when I was younger like that.

 

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I'm the only one in my family that did

this, you know, anything like this.

 

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So I'm the disappointment also.

 

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Asher Grodman: No, you need to, you need,

you need to bring it to life a little bit.

 

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We, we were at a Seder one night where it

felt like, it was like no singing allowed.

 

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They were like reading Dinu off the

page and eventually the room just

 

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erupted in, in like rebellious song.

 

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We were like, no, we're going

 

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Marc Preston: to sing it.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Even the old folks kind

of get into it, you know?

 

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But yeah, you can't read, you

can't read Dinu off the page.

 

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You gotta, you gotta know.

 

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No, no,

 

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Asher Grodman: no, no, no.

 

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Flying free flag.

 

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Flag.

 

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But it's, you know, you, you bring up a

yeah, you bring up an interesting point.

 

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I, I don't know that I would be

an actor today 'cause I was a

 

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pretty shy kid and I was, you know,

obviously growing up the way I did.

 

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Um, if not for having a bar mitzvah.

 

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'cause it just, it was like a moment

of being up in front of people.

 

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It was, it was an assignment, a

cultural assignment that I had to do.

 

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Um, and so gave me an experience

that I, you know, I life may not

 

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have provided, if not for that.

 

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Um, 'cause no part of me wanted

to be up in front of people.

 

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No, the same here.

 

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Which is such an irony.

 

252

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Sixth grade self.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Um.

 

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So that probably opened a lot of,

opened my eyes to a lot of stuff.

 

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So it's a good thing.

 

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I'm Jewish.

 

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Marc Preston: I completely agree with you.

 

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When you get up there, it's sort of a,

it's kind of a proof of performance thing.

 

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You get up there, you're, wait

a minute, I can do this, even

 

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though I thought maybe I couldn't.

 

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Was there anything that you felt the

spark of wanting to perform at that age?

 

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Asher Grodman: I think there were

probably three things that were

 

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like big, uh, eye-opening or like

kind of propelling moments for me.

 

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One was getting up at the bar mitzvah

and just having the like, oh, this feels

 

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like a scary, insurmountable thing.

 

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And then doing it and the exhilaration

that comes from, I'm up in front of

 

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people and they're watching me and I could

see them watching me and, and um, the

 

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kind of vitality that comes from that.

 

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Uh, so that was definitely one.

 

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Another one was, and this probably

just comes out of being a very lonely

 

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kid, um, was, uh, I had crushes on,

on all the girls and was often doing,

 

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I, I remember I had a, a crush on, um,

a girl who, who will remain nameless,

 

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um, in like the seventh grade.

 

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And I was, I, I was in the school jazz

band and kind of hiding in the back.

 

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Um, and at one point, uh, everyone

in the school jazz band graduated and

 

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it was like me and three people left.

 

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And, um, I got tapped to sing

a brown-eyed girl Oh, okay.

 

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In front of the school, uh,

which was pretty terrifying.

 

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But I, I, I, um, uh, got excited at

the prospect of getting up there.

 

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And this is what I did.

 

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I changed the words, the hazel I girl

for her, um, which it was another one

 

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of those like big, exhilarating moments.

 

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I'm sure.

 

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I think she was mortified.

 

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Um, but for me it was, it

was thrilling and, uh, um.

 

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It didn't work out the way I

was hoping it would in my little

 

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romantic seventh grade self.

 

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But it did, it was another one

of those experiences of like

 

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being up in front of people.

 

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And then I think the last thing that

was such a big deal for me was, uh,

 

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this is the time that Mel Brooks,

um, that the producers hit Broadway.

 

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Hmm.

 

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And we were, my brother and I

obsessed with that musical we

 

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were singing and we knew all the

words and everything and, and, um.

 

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And so I think those three factors, uh,

just kind of started pushing me towards,

 

297

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uh, getting up in front of people and

being a little more, um, outgoing and,

 

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and taking risks in different way.

 

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Marc Preston: Roughly 12,

13, you know, years old.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I mean, you, you going for the, uh,

the big Hail Mary there, that's,

 

302

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that's, uh, that's commendable.

 

303

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You know, that's, you know, at that

age, you know, thank, you know, it's

 

304

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easy to kind of crawl in, you know,

but when you, I think at that age, it's

 

305

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a series of proving yourself that you

can do things and you're not limited.

 

306

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I, I was kind of the same way, you know?

 

307

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I would, yeah.

 

308

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I would've, I would've never done that.

 

309

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I, I had a couple, uh,

good handful of crushes.

 

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I, I, I think I would've been

mortified to, uh, do that, but,

 

311

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so, uh, mazel top, very good job.

 

312

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But did you ever, oh, thank you.

 

313

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Did you ever, did she ever allude to that?

 

314

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Later did work now.

 

315

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Oh, okay.

 

316

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Well, yeah.

 

317

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No, no, no.

 

318

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Asher Grodman: Um, but, but you know, it,

it, it, I think there is an element of.

 

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You might, you might relate to this, where

you, you're, I don't know, you're 12,

 

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13, 14, and, and like, you're changing.

 

321

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Mm-hmm.

 

322

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Um, I don't mean like puberty wise.

 

323

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You're just, you're, you're, you're

just at the beginning of starting to

 

324

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figure out like who you are, who you

want to be, and, and so new ideas and

 

325

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perspectives are entering your mind,

and yet you're in school where everyone

 

326

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has a certain sense of who you are.

 

327

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Mm-hmm.

 

328

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And I, I remember a lot of those

years feeling like I didn't, I, I

 

329

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wanted to, I didn't want to be what

I, like, I was, I was changing.

 

330

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I didn't want to be what I was,

I wanted to try something new.

 

331

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And, and I think that those

experiences were probably, um.

 

332

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A big part of like, I wanted

to be seen differently.

 

333

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I wanted to, uh, experience

myself differently.

 

334

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I didn't know that at the

time, but, um, I'm sure Well,

 

335

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yeah, because when you go from,

 

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Marc Preston: let's say, the elementary

school to, you know, I had a junior high

 

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thing, so we started in seventh grade.

 

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I think that first year that you get

kind of cast in a role, or you think

 

339

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you do, you get cast into, you know, oh,

this is who he is or she is, you know?

 

340

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Yeah.

 

341

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There's a, you know, a special

brand of trauma being at that age,

 

342

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especially when you have crushes

and you don't know how to get to

 

343

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the next step or whatever, you know?

 

344

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Now she doesn't know

what she missed out on.

 

345

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Now, now she's got a guy who gets paid

to walk around with either this pants on.

 

346

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I mean, that's she, that's right.

 

347

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Yes.

 

348

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She missed the boat.

 

349

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She missed the boat, and who

wouldn't sign up for that?

 

350

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You're in school in New York now.

 

351

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Were you like, was that when kind of you

shifted into gear and go, okay, theatrical

 

352

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thing, that's, that's what I wanna do?

 

353

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Or did it come even later than that?

 

354

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Asher Grodman: Um, no, it was, I, I

went to high school in, in New Jersey.

 

355

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Um, but I, it, it was really like

high school was the time where

 

356

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I started really pursuing it.

 

357

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I got very lucky.

 

358

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Mm-hmm.

 

359

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At like, um, I guess I would've

been like 15 or something.

 

360

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And, um, I was in New York, this is back

when this was a thing that happened.

 

361

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I was in New York dropping

off like headshots and really

 

362

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just like a blank resume to

different agents, office offices.

 

363

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Um, and it was the day

before Thanksgiving.

 

364

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And the city was empty.

 

365

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I picked a bad day to do this.

 

366

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Um, but it's when I was off from school

and uh, it just so happened that one

 

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of the agents that I was gonna, where I

was agencies or I was dropping something

 

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off, the agent was there and got in the

elevator with me and we started chatting.

 

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And so I just got lucky that I,

I met this person face to face.

 

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Marc Preston: So you had, you

had a literal elevator pitch?

 

371

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Asher Grodman: I had an elevator pitch.

 

372

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That's right.

 

373

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My elevator, which pitch was I'm

an actor, I don't know anything.

 

374

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Uh, can we, would you

consider, uh, taking me on?

 

375

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Um, and I think he, I can't

remember if it was then or later,

 

376

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but at some point he had me do a

monologue and, um, and signed me.

 

377

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And, and then I was like, this,

this feels like a very different

 

378

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time now, but back then there

was a thing called pilot season.

 

379

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Yeah.

 

380

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Uh, where, you know, the, from the

January to March, I. Um, part of the

 

381

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year, uh, every network was making

like 10 pilots and, uh, who knows

 

382

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how many would actually go to series,

but they were always casting them.

 

383

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And, and I had a kind of look that I think

fit that kind of like WB World back then.

 

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It was wb.

 

385

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Oh God.

 

386

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Yeah.

 

387

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Yeah.

 

388

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But, um, and so I, I kind of had this

thing where I was like, I, I couldn't, I,

 

389

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I, I wasn't auditioning for guest stars or

anything like that, but I was weirdly like

 

390

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auditioning for the leads of these shows.

 

391

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Um, and never got one.

 

392

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Like I came close.

 

393

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No, no.

 

394

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Were you

 

395

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Marc Preston: flying to LA for,

were you going there to, you know,

 

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Asher Grodman: yeah.

 

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So what happened was, I, I, I

was in New York 'cause I was

 

398

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in school and, and school was

kind of always the top priority.

 

399

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Um, but I did, at the end of, I

worked with this guy for like.

 

400

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I guess 4, 3, 4 years.

 

401

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And at the end there was, uh, it was

one show commander in chief was the

 

402

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name of it with Gina Davis that I

was, um, uh, I guess chosen to, to

 

403

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do a screen, to do a screen test,

um, a networks and studio test.

 

404

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And, um, so for that, I was flown out to

LA and I kind of made a, and basically

 

405

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what that means is they've got it down

to like three or four guys and they're

 

406

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gonna show you to the studio and the

network, and you're gonna perform.

 

407

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And they'll, they're gonna give their

blessing or not give their blessing,

 

408

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and the decision will be made.

 

409

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And I was kind of like, um, all right,

uh, if this happens for me, I'll do

 

410

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this show and that's what I'll do.

 

411

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And, but if it doesn't

happen, I'm going to college.

 

412

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Uh, so I kind of like left it

up to fate and I didn't get it.

 

413

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And so I committed to going to school.

 

414

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Uh, and then later on I ended

up getting offered another.

 

415

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Show and, and turned it down.

 

416

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Uh, and my agent was

like, get out of here.

 

417

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But what was, what was

 

418

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Marc Preston: the impetus

for turning it down?

 

419

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Or was it just not

something you wanted to do?

 

420

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Or you had, you were

more focused on school?

 

421

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Asher Grodman: I think it was a little

 

422

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Marc Preston: bit like, um,

 

423

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Asher Grodman: I think it was

a little bit that I felt like

 

424

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school was the smart thing to do.

 

425

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Uh, I wanted to set myself up, um, you

know, as best as I could for the future.

 

426

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And I, I didn't know what the other show

was gonna turn out to be, or I don't even,

 

427

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I, I don't, it didn't even have a name at

the time, so, um, it may not even gone.

 

428

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So the idea of like going to

series, so the idea of, um,

 

429

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giving up college for that just

didn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

430

00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:11,520

And I think deep down I kind of

had a sense that I'm, I'm kind

 

431

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of, um, I'm kind of winging it.

 

432

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Mm-hmm.

 

433

00:19:13,490 --> 00:19:15,330

I don't, I don't really know

what I'm doing right now.

 

434

00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:20,760

Um, and uh, I think years of kind of

being in New York and working with.

 

435

00:19:21,149 --> 00:19:27,300

Uh, acting coaches and figuring

out how to do this work and

 

436

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then going to grad school.

 

437

00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,360

And, um, I kind of figured out how

to do it over time, but I think at

 

438

00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:36,899

that point it was, it was important

for me to go to college and go

 

439

00:19:36,899 --> 00:19:38,730

get, get that life experience.

 

440

00:19:38,850 --> 00:19:41,100

Um, not the choice everyone would make.

 

441

00:19:41,310 --> 00:19:42,210

That was the choice that I made.

 

442

00:19:42,210 --> 00:19:42,540

Well, of

 

443

00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:44,129

Marc Preston: course, you know,

the parents is sort of like, oh,

 

444

00:19:44,129 --> 00:19:44,940

you're not gonna be a doctor.

 

445

00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:45,840

Not gonna be an attorney.

 

446

00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,230

All right.

 

447

00:19:46,290 --> 00:19:46,470

Yeah.

 

448

00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:46,920

You know?

 

449

00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:48,600

Well, they at least do

the school, you know?

 

450

00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:49,620

Asher Grodman: That's right.

 

451

00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:49,980

Yeah.

 

452

00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:49,981

Yeah.

 

453

00:19:50,399 --> 00:19:54,360

My, to my parents' credit, they, they

were always like, it doesn't matter

 

454

00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:58,590

what you do, you just have to, as long

as you love it, and as long as you were

 

455

00:19:58,590 --> 00:20:01,710

willing to bust your ass to achieve it.

 

456

00:20:02,070 --> 00:20:04,740

And so they were always

supportive of me being an actor.

 

457

00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:06,840

It was a world that they didn't know.

 

458

00:20:07,379 --> 00:20:09,750

Um, but like no one knows

unless you're in it.

 

459

00:20:10,155 --> 00:20:11,775

Um, but they were always very supportive.

 

460

00:20:11,835 --> 00:20:15,345

Um, and they probably instilled

a lot of tenacity mm-hmm.

 

461

00:20:15,585 --> 00:20:16,005

In me.

 

462

00:20:16,305 --> 00:20:17,235

Marc Preston: Um, well, you need that.

 

463

00:20:17,235 --> 00:20:18,315

You need to be a little hardheaded.

 

464

00:20:18,345 --> 00:20:18,645

Yes.

 

465

00:20:18,645 --> 00:20:19,065

You know.

 

466

00:20:19,545 --> 00:20:23,655

Um, now when you were, were you

studying acting in, in school

 

467

00:20:23,655 --> 00:20:25,965

and, and for your masters or were

you kind of doing something else?

 

468

00:20:25,995 --> 00:20:27,795

No, but doing the acting at the same time.

 

469

00:20:28,455 --> 00:20:29,655

Asher Grodman: No, this

was the weird thing.

 

470

00:20:29,655 --> 00:20:35,835

And so I went to Columbia, um, where

it was a very large core curriculum.

 

471

00:20:35,955 --> 00:20:43,755

Um, and, uh, I kind of made a point,

I was a film and an English major at

 

472

00:20:43,755 --> 00:20:48,285

Columbia, and so I wanted college to be

something that was separate from acting.

 

473

00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:53,415

Um, and, uh, I, I had acting

coaches in the city who I was

 

474

00:20:53,475 --> 00:20:55,335

working with while I was in school.

 

475

00:20:55,335 --> 00:20:57,165

And I wanted school to be about school.

 

476

00:20:57,915 --> 00:20:58,545

Um.

 

477

00:20:59,189 --> 00:21:01,679

Which was a kind of surreal thing

when you, I got to the end of

 

478

00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:04,230

school 'cause everyone is like

applying for internships Right.

 

479

00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:05,429

And trying to get jobs

and stuff like that.

 

480

00:21:05,429 --> 00:21:10,199

And I, I was like, I think I'm just

gonna wing it here and go job to job.

 

481

00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:15,120

Um, but uh, yeah, I, I kept

school kind of separate.

 

482

00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,040

I, I was lucky I got

some jobs here and there.

 

483

00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,074

I was in college, but part of college.

 

484

00:21:19,074 --> 00:21:19,195

Well,

 

485

00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:19,770

Marc Preston: what was your study?

 

486

00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:22,230

What was your course of

uh, your degree plan?

 

487

00:21:23,580 --> 00:21:26,669

Asher Grodman: My degree plan

was, so I, I wanted, Columbia

 

488

00:21:26,669 --> 00:21:27,960

has a really great film school.

 

489

00:21:28,199 --> 00:21:31,021

Um, so I took all the film

classes that I mm-hmm.

 

490

00:21:31,022 --> 00:21:35,639

That I could and, which is great

'cause it, as the years went by and I

 

491

00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:38,760

get opportunities to direct here and

there, that was like the foundation

 

492

00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,169

for understanding how to do that.

 

493

00:21:40,830 --> 00:21:45,030

Um, so that proved to be very valuable.

 

494

00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:47,159

Um, and then, and then I was

just kind of taking classes

 

495

00:21:47,159 --> 00:21:49,800

I was interested in and, um.

 

496

00:21:50,145 --> 00:21:53,715

And I didn't know this, but it kind

of added up to an English major.

 

497

00:21:53,715 --> 00:21:56,415

So I got to the end and was like,

oh, I'm, I'm somehow a double major,

 

498

00:21:56,865 --> 00:21:58,725

uh, if I just take this poetry class.

 

499

00:21:59,145 --> 00:22:02,595

And, uh, and so then I like

barely survived a poetry class

 

500

00:22:02,595 --> 00:22:03,765

and just got my English major.

 

501

00:22:04,365 --> 00:22:09,015

Um, but yeah, I guess the plan was

the, I think the plan was always like,

 

502

00:22:10,215 --> 00:22:14,055

I wanted to be in a position to learn

things and to be exposed to things

 

503

00:22:14,055 --> 00:22:15,825

that I wouldn't normally be exposed to.

 

504

00:22:16,425 --> 00:22:21,075

Um, 'cause I thought that that

would probably help me, uh, with

 

505

00:22:21,075 --> 00:22:23,325

acting with scripts and, and I

think another element of, you

 

506

00:22:23,325 --> 00:22:25,125

know, I'm dyslexic reading is hard.

 

507

00:22:25,215 --> 00:22:25,365

Mm-hmm.

 

508

00:22:25,725 --> 00:22:27,645

Or was very hard for me growing up.

 

509

00:22:27,645 --> 00:22:33,255

And so I think have, being in a situation,

in an academic environment where someone

 

510

00:22:33,255 --> 00:22:37,005

is kind of guiding you through some

of these, this language and guiding

 

511

00:22:37,005 --> 00:22:40,815

you through some of these texts was

really probably my only shot at that

 

512

00:22:40,815 --> 00:22:43,305

age to, to really learn this stuff.

 

513

00:22:43,709 --> 00:22:47,189

Marc Preston: Were you kind of wired

into an ecosystem of other actors, you

 

514

00:22:47,189 --> 00:22:50,129

know, 'cause you're in New York and

were, did you find your tribe pretty

 

515

00:22:50,129 --> 00:22:53,040

easily or were you still kind of a solo

 

516

00:22:53,310 --> 00:22:53,909

Asher Grodman: explorer?

 

517

00:22:53,915 --> 00:22:54,514

I was really solo.

 

518

00:22:55,155 --> 00:22:59,550

I was really solo and that was

hard because it, it really wouldn't

 

519

00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:01,139

be until I went to grad school.

 

520

00:23:01,169 --> 00:23:02,490

And so I, I graduated college.

 

521

00:23:02,490 --> 00:23:05,159

I had a year in New York, and then I

went to grad school and it wouldn't be

 

522

00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:09,870

until I got to grad school that I had

the, intimacy is the wrong word, but I

 

523

00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:15,449

had the intimacy with other artists to

kinda like see my process, see their

 

524

00:23:15,449 --> 00:23:21,330

process, um, and, and collaborate in

that way because I learned how to act

 

525

00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:26,459

through auditioning, which is not,

does not set you up for collaboration

 

526

00:23:26,459 --> 00:23:29,010

because the only people you meet are the

people who are in that room trying to

 

527

00:23:29,010 --> 00:23:30,179

get the job that you're trying to get.

 

528

00:23:30,959 --> 00:23:32,459

Um, so.

 

529

00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:37,560

Yeah, community was delayed and it

would've been exponentially healthier for

 

530

00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,460

me and exponentially, I probably would've

been in a much better situation had I had

 

531

00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:45,330

some kind of community, but there was no

one in my high school who was doing this.

 

532

00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:49,620

And in college, there really wasn't,

there weren't many people who were

 

533

00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:53,970

pursuing it the way that I was pursuing

it, there were doing it in school and

 

534

00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:56,940

I was kind of doing it outta school,

or at least, at least trying to.

 

535

00:23:57,540 --> 00:24:00,660

Um, so yeah, I didn't have that community.

 

536

00:24:00,660 --> 00:24:04,410

And, and then it's funny, once

I experienced that community in

 

537

00:24:04,410 --> 00:24:07,650

grad school, then creating, that

became very important to me.

 

538

00:24:08,190 --> 00:24:12,450

And when I was in LA after grad school,

and then when I came back to New York in

 

539

00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:18,090

both places, I tried to create like, uh,

a, a a group, like a, like a situation

 

540

00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:22,530

where, um, I, I got together like a

group of actors on a weekly basis for

 

541

00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:24,240

people to put up work and to try stuff.

 

542

00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,650

And so never to like teach, but just

as like a, as like a gym kind of thing.

 

543

00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:29,070

'cause.

 

544

00:24:29,955 --> 00:24:33,135

One thing you learned very early

on in this business is that no one

 

545

00:24:33,135 --> 00:24:34,785

gets, no one can do this alone.

 

546

00:24:34,815 --> 00:24:37,365

Even, even just like an audition.

 

547

00:24:37,395 --> 00:24:39,735

Like if you got an audition for the

greatest thing in the world, but you

 

548

00:24:39,735 --> 00:24:41,355

couldn't get a buddy to go read with you.

 

549

00:24:41,685 --> 00:24:41,835

Yeah.

 

550

00:24:41,835 --> 00:24:43,035

You're not gonna audition for that thing.

 

551

00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,150

Mm-hmm.

 

552

00:24:43,230 --> 00:24:44,355

Like, you need someone.

 

553

00:24:44,715 --> 00:24:44,925

Marc Preston: Yeah.

 

554

00:24:44,925 --> 00:24:47,475

The Mirror is not a good

audition partner, you know?

 

555

00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:48,285

No.

 

556

00:24:48,285 --> 00:24:48,405

Have a

 

557

00:24:48,405 --> 00:24:48,945

Asher Grodman: self tape.

 

558

00:24:48,945 --> 00:24:49,035

Marc Preston: You

 

559

00:24:49,035 --> 00:24:49,514

Asher Grodman: need a scene

 

560

00:24:49,514 --> 00:24:49,905

Marc Preston: partner.

 

561

00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:52,215

I, I'm curious, there's a project you did.

 

562

00:24:52,215 --> 00:24:53,355

I, I've never seen it.

 

563

00:24:53,355 --> 00:24:54,405

Don't know too much about it.

 

564

00:24:54,645 --> 00:24:57,795

Figure I was talking to you, I asked

you about it, but the Jacksonville

 

565

00:24:57,795 --> 00:25:00,345

Jaguars project, what exactly was that?

 

566

00:25:00,795 --> 00:25:01,065

My

 

567

00:25:01,065 --> 00:25:04,004

Asher Grodman: opus, my greatest,

my greatest joy in life.

 

568

00:25:04,095 --> 00:25:10,905

Um, so, so, um, I am a, a big,

uh, Jacksonville Jaguars fan.

 

569

00:25:11,325 --> 00:25:18,795

Um, and, uh, a few years ago, um, it's

been a few years now, but NFL teams,

 

570

00:25:18,795 --> 00:25:23,475

when they, uh, on schedule release day,

uh, have started making these videos,

 

571

00:25:23,475 --> 00:25:25,905

they're like social media kind of, um.

 

572

00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:29,010

Uh, material is, is it

 

573

00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:31,245

Marc Preston: sort of like a hype

film a little bit kind of thing?

 

574

00:25:31,245 --> 00:25:31,680

Yeah, it's kind of a

 

575

00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,580

Asher Grodman: hype film.

 

576

00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:38,130

It's, it's kind of like a goofy,

um, way to reveal the upcoming

 

577

00:25:38,130 --> 00:25:40,800

schedule game calendar to your fans.

 

578

00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,330

And so it's a big ticket sales day.

 

579

00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,290

So they're always like, like the kind

of run of the mill of this is like,

 

580

00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:51,300

like a kitten in a box and you're

dangling the opponent's mascot over

 

581

00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:52,950

it as the kitten like swipes at it.

 

582

00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:55,740

Like it's that kind of vibe

as you reveal the schedule.

 

583

00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,590

So it's a big like social media day in

the NFL and I, because of ghosts and

 

584

00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:08,070

because of my, um, passionate fandom,

um, had developed a relationship with

 

585

00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:13,680

the Jacksonville Jaguars over the

course of the, of the 2022 season, which

 

586

00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,870

for them was a pretty magical year.

 

587

00:26:16,170 --> 00:26:17,640

And I got to know everyone.

 

588

00:26:17,730 --> 00:26:21,840

And, um, at the time

there were a lot of jokes.

 

589

00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,429

About the NFL because it's had

gotten so epic and, and dramatic

 

590

00:26:26,429 --> 00:26:28,889

and, and, uh, and other things.

 

591

00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,330

There were jokes that the NFL was

all really just scripted and, um,

 

592

00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:36,300

the Jaguars wanted to play with that.

 

593

00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:42,360

And I, in talking to them and I, I

guess, convinced them that, um, if they

 

594

00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:46,139

really wanna have some fun with this,

don't make a schedule release video.

 

595

00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:49,649

Don't do the whole, here's our, here,

we're playing this person, we're playing

 

596

00:26:49,649 --> 00:26:50,760

this person, we're playing this person.

 

597

00:26:51,030 --> 00:26:58,020

Throw that out and let's go all in

and make a full on mockumentary about

 

598

00:26:58,020 --> 00:27:00,449

the NFL actually being scripted.

 

599

00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:03,960

And following the, like, if

that's true, what else is true?

 

600

00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,700

And so it stars all of their

players, uh, playing themselves

 

601

00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:11,370

as actors playing themselves.

 

602

00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:15,300

And so their quarterback, Trevor

Lawrence is in it, the owner's

 

603

00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,830

in it, their coach was in it.

 

604

00:27:16,860 --> 00:27:20,520

Um, and it was kind of just

this reMarcable experience

 

605

00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,461

where this, you know, this big

organization really had a sense.

 

606

00:27:23,466 --> 00:27:24,240

This, this is sort of like your

 

607

00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,460

Marc Preston: football

spinal tap kind of a thing.

 

608

00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:26,520

Yeah,

 

609

00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:28,260

Asher Grodman: yeah.

 

610

00:27:28,650 --> 00:27:29,550

It's a lot like that.

 

611

00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:34,020

And, and of course it merged, you

know, my, my two, two of my passions

 

612

00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:36,030

being acting and, and football.

 

613

00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:36,180

Uh, well,

 

614

00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:38,715

Marc Preston: I gotta know, how

does a New York kid, uh, or New

 

615

00:27:38,715 --> 00:27:41,250

Jersey kid, uh, become a Jaguar fan?

 

616

00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,610

Yeah.

 

617

00:27:41,610 --> 00:27:41,879

How does

 

618

00:27:41,879 --> 00:27:42,000

Asher Grodman: that

 

619

00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,300

Marc Preston: happen?

 

620

00:27:42,659 --> 00:27:46,409

Yeah, my new dad is, I'm, I'm

from Dallas, so it's, it's kind of

 

621

00:27:46,409 --> 00:27:46,919

Asher Grodman: already

 

622

00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:47,070

Marc Preston: in

 

623

00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:47,580

Asher Grodman: the DNA,

 

624

00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:48,175

Marc Preston: you know, so bake

 

625

00:27:48,205 --> 00:27:51,030

Asher Grodman: into

your, your DNA in Dallas.

 

626

00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:56,550

My dad is a lifelong, uh, Detroit

Lions fan, and if you're not a a

 

627

00:27:56,550 --> 00:28:00,330

football person, all you have to

know is the Lions I think, have won

 

628

00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:03,899

maybe two playoff games in 70 years.

 

629

00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:09,929

Uh, and so, um, I grew up as a Lions

fan when I was younger and watching

 

630

00:28:09,929 --> 00:28:11,490

Perry Sanders and, and all that.

 

631

00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,100

And, and at some point I think my

mom went to my dad and was like.

 

632

00:28:14,730 --> 00:28:15,870

You can't do this to your children.

 

633

00:28:16,050 --> 00:28:16,590

It's not fair.

 

634

00:28:16,590 --> 00:28:18,090

They're not gonna have friends.

 

635

00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:19,170

They're gonna be alone.

 

636

00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,790

Uh, and so my dad like sat us down

when we were, I was like eight.

 

637

00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:26,550

And he was like, I'm sorry, you're

not allowed to be a Lions fan.

 

638

00:28:26,610 --> 00:28:27,630

You have to pick your own team.

 

639

00:28:28,260 --> 00:28:33,510

And um, that year was 1995 and

the Jaguars had just been created.

 

640

00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:35,370

They were the brand new team on the block.

 

641

00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:39,570

And to an 8-year-old, I mean, you,

you have to see this, this logo and

 

642

00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:41,010

uniforms that they used to have.

 

643

00:28:41,010 --> 00:28:41,700

They were amazing.

 

644

00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:43,140

It was the coolest thing in the world.

 

645

00:28:43,650 --> 00:28:46,770

So I, I have to imagine that any, I

have to imagine there's a generation

 

646

00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:51,330

of people who got into football around

1995 who were just Jaguars fans.

 

647

00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,800

'cause it was just the, the coolest thing

when they, when they hit the scene, um.

 

648

00:28:56,399 --> 00:29:00,629

So, yeah, I've been with them since really

day one of their, of their existence.

 

649

00:29:00,689 --> 00:29:05,250

They were born about the time you,

you came into your own NFLI came in.

 

650

00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:05,460

Yeah.

 

651

00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:09,750

My, the time that I was kicked out of

my, my lion's house, they were born.

 

652

00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:10,560

So I, uh,

 

653

00:29:10,649 --> 00:29:10,980

Marc Preston: yeah, I,

 

654

00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:12,090

Asher Grodman: I was, I'm

 

655

00:29:12,090 --> 00:29:14,879

Marc Preston: a Texas Rangers

fan, so up until a couple years

 

656

00:29:14,879 --> 00:29:17,610

ago, you know, every year it's

like, okay, we're not gonna do it.

 

657

00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:21,090

But we finally did, and it was like,

you know, I remember sitting on the sofa

 

658

00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:23,220

and then, and they won the World Series.

 

659

00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,050

I'm sitting there just like,

my kids are looking at me and

 

660

00:29:25,050 --> 00:29:26,159

they know, I'm like, in shock.

 

661

00:29:26,189 --> 00:29:26,850

I'm like, oh no.

 

662

00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:30,840

You know, growing up in Dallas, I was

a big, you know, I, I I football, I

 

663

00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,250

mean, I, they haven't won a Super Bowl

since I was in college, you know, so the

 

664

00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,820

cowboy, so anyway, but I'm not gonna go,

I'm not gonna, the heartbreak, that's

 

665

00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,800

Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, but, um,

 

666

00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:43,110

Asher Grodman: video.

 

667

00:29:43,514 --> 00:29:45,645

Uh, is about the Cowboys, so

 

668

00:29:45,645 --> 00:29:45,855

Marc Preston: if you

 

669

00:29:45,855 --> 00:29:47,235

Asher Grodman: get a chance,

I think you'll enjoy it.

 

670

00:29:47,295 --> 00:29:50,595

Marc Preston: Oh, I, I, some of my

favorite memes I see are, are busting

 

671

00:29:50,595 --> 00:29:53,445

on the Cowboys, you know, and the

way I look at it, it's the most

 

672

00:29:53,504 --> 00:29:56,205

valuable sports franchise on Earth,

yet they haven't won a Super Bowl.

 

673

00:29:56,205 --> 00:29:56,595

Oh yeah.

 

674

00:29:56,655 --> 00:29:58,695

Didn't the Panthers come out

right about the same time?

 

675

00:29:58,695 --> 00:29:59,835

Didn't they start same year?

 

676

00:29:59,835 --> 00:30:00,885

Yeah, they came out the same

 

677

00:30:00,885 --> 00:30:01,485

Asher Grodman: time,

 

678

00:30:01,545 --> 00:30:03,615

Marc Preston: but, uh,

Jaguars were a lot cooler.

 

679

00:30:03,825 --> 00:30:04,155

Okay.

 

680

00:30:04,155 --> 00:30:04,305

Yeah.

 

681

00:30:04,305 --> 00:30:07,785

'cause the uniform, of course you

did this video and I, it looks

 

682

00:30:07,785 --> 00:30:08,835

like it got a lot of attention.

 

683

00:30:08,835 --> 00:30:10,274

I, I get to go, where is it?

 

684

00:30:10,274 --> 00:30:11,325

Where can I go see this?

 

685

00:30:11,325 --> 00:30:12,285

'cause I really, oh, it's a

 

686

00:30:12,285 --> 00:30:15,615

Asher Grodman: very easy Google,

just Google, it was written or

 

687

00:30:15,675 --> 00:30:17,715

Jaguars schedule release video.

 

688

00:30:17,805 --> 00:30:20,355

Uh, it was the 2023

schedule release video.

 

689

00:30:20,745 --> 00:30:24,345

Um, yes, it's very, it is easily

accessible on the interwebs.

 

690

00:30:24,615 --> 00:30:28,035

Um, and yeah, it had this

kind of wild, um, moment.

 

691

00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:29,835

'cause it was, no one had

really ever done it before.

 

692

00:30:29,835 --> 00:30:34,545

And, and I don't think anyone had ever

really, it, it's not that players hadn't

 

693

00:30:34,545 --> 00:30:38,175

been in them before they had, but.

 

694

00:30:38,594 --> 00:30:43,215

There was never a, uh, no one had

ever done a thing where there was that

 

695

00:30:43,215 --> 00:30:44,985

much access for one of these videos.

 

696

00:30:45,764 --> 00:30:50,205

Um, and as you know, you're a sports

fan, um, you don't really get access

 

697

00:30:50,205 --> 00:30:52,245

to these guys, their personalities.

 

698

00:30:52,274 --> 00:30:53,834

There, there is still an elements.

 

699

00:30:53,834 --> 00:30:57,584

It's the whole, like, they got brand

building all, you know, they're

 

700

00:30:57,584 --> 00:31:00,104

al they're always mindful of that.

 

701

00:31:00,284 --> 00:31:01,844

It's always very like clean cut.

 

702

00:31:01,844 --> 00:31:06,225

And, and so the, what was I think unique

about what we did is that you really

 

703

00:31:06,225 --> 00:31:12,014

got a chance to get to know these guys

because you saw them playing make believe.

 

704

00:31:13,004 --> 00:31:15,524

Um, and so you got to see

a different side of them.

 

705

00:31:15,524 --> 00:31:18,879

And that goes for the players

and the owner and the coach and,

 

706

00:31:18,885 --> 00:31:20,084

and people in the organization.

 

707

00:31:20,084 --> 00:31:24,375

Like, so everyone was kind

of clowning a little bit.

 

708

00:31:24,584 --> 00:31:24,675

Mm-hmm.

 

709

00:31:24,915 --> 00:31:28,455

And then on top of that, the fact that

everyone was involved and everyone

 

710

00:31:28,455 --> 00:31:33,945

was down to be part of it, I think

it, it, it was just a unique thing

 

711

00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:36,735

for an organization like that to, to.

 

712

00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:40,920

You know, all these big companies

have different departments and

 

713

00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,180

usually they don't talk to each other.

 

714

00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:47,340

But the Jaguars do have a kind of

small town, very family based vibe.

 

715

00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:49,500

And so I think that is

reflected in the video.

 

716

00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:51,870

So then when it came out, people

were kind of like, wow, how,

 

717

00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:53,520

how is this even possible?

 

718

00:31:53,550 --> 00:31:56,010

'cause you wouldn't think an NFL

team would be able to do this,

 

719

00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:59,100

but it was something unique to the

Jaguars and their vibe that allowed

 

720

00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,090

Marc Preston: for this to happen.

 

721

00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:02,850

A lot of things in the NFL, probably

more than any other professional

 

722

00:32:02,850 --> 00:32:07,110

sport, is very theatrical and staged

and, you know, at every level.

 

723

00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:07,320

Yes.

 

724

00:32:07,410 --> 00:32:10,410

And this seems to be a little

bit more gorilla, a little bit

 

725

00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:12,780

more, uh, freeform as it were.

 

726

00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:16,740

So it's probably, this was fun for

them because this is not something that

 

727

00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,360

they get to that, that they get to do.

 

728

00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:19,620

You know, usually

 

729

00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:22,139

Asher Grodman: gorilla is

a, actually a great word.

 

730

00:32:22,139 --> 00:32:25,425

'cause it's a word we used a lot in

the, in the making of this thing that,

 

731

00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:29,580

that we wanted something that was

a little grit or a little more like

 

732

00:32:29,580 --> 00:32:32,040

it, the whole thing was scripted,

but a little more improvisational.

 

733

00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:34,050

You know, it, it, it's

an irony of course, that.

 

734

00:32:35,205 --> 00:32:40,095

WW through making a scripted

video, we were able to tap

 

735

00:32:40,095 --> 00:32:44,685

into a, uh, um, what is it?

 

736

00:32:44,685 --> 00:32:48,165

Something very genuine,

uh, about these guys.

 

737

00:32:48,585 --> 00:32:55,305

And, um, and then from that, the video

went on, like it won an award at Tribeca.

 

738

00:32:55,785 --> 00:32:57,525

It won an award at Cam.

 

739

00:32:57,585 --> 00:32:59,625

Like it's just, it was just,

see, that's what I thought.

 

740

00:32:59,625 --> 00:33:00,315

I was like, wait a minute,

 

741

00:33:00,315 --> 00:33:03,075

Marc Preston: this thing won something

at can, you know, it got noticed there.

 

742

00:33:03,075 --> 00:33:04,575

Like, yeah, I gotta check this out.

 

743

00:33:05,865 --> 00:33:08,565

Well, did you, were the players,

were they any of the players

 

744

00:33:08,565 --> 00:33:10,365

fans of, of, uh, ghosts?

 

745

00:33:10,815 --> 00:33:13,425

Uh, were they aware,

were they dialed in or,

 

746

00:33:13,755 --> 00:33:18,645

Asher Grodman: well, everyone, everyone

who was involved knew at least to, I

 

747

00:33:18,645 --> 00:33:24,795

would imagine knew at least to some

extent, uh, where I had come from and,

 

748

00:33:24,855 --> 00:33:27,405

and that I was from the, this TV world.

 

749

00:33:27,585 --> 00:33:29,595

So whether they had seen the

show or not, they knew that.

 

750

00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:35,399

They knew that they were, I think that was

kind of part of the thing of, of coming in

 

751

00:33:35,399 --> 00:33:39,719

with a script and coming in with this idea

and, and them being able to step into a

 

752

00:33:39,719 --> 00:33:41,790

space that may not have been their space.

 

753

00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:42,899

'cause they live in this football.

 

754

00:33:42,899 --> 00:33:46,409

The, of course they're used to

people watching them, but stepping

 

755

00:33:46,409 --> 00:33:48,419

into a kind of narrative space.

 

756

00:33:48,449 --> 00:33:52,350

And the fact that I was on the show

probably helped convince people

 

757

00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:58,409

and, and helped, uh, me in, in

creating a, a safe environment.

 

758

00:33:58,620 --> 00:33:58,770

Yeah.

 

759

00:33:58,770 --> 00:33:59,610

Or they kind of, they could

 

760

00:33:59,610 --> 00:34:02,129

Marc Preston: trust that, that, that

this is an ecosystem they're not familiar

 

761

00:34:02,129 --> 00:34:03,719

with, but they know, you know it.

 

762

00:34:03,719 --> 00:34:05,610

And that you're looking out for,

they know that I know what I'm

 

763

00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:05,790

Asher Grodman: doing.

 

764

00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:07,020

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah.

 

765

00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:07,021

Yeah.

 

766

00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:10,440

So how did, how did Ghost come along

to you, by the way, was this something

 

767

00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,190

that, was it a law, was it a long process

of, because when you're working an

 

768

00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:18,870

ensemble with a show like this, I'm sure

it's a process or was it pretty quick?

 

769

00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,049

You know, they knew they wanted

you, you wanted it, you know.

 

770

00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:25,600

Asher Grodman: Um, well, um,

nothing is ever as quick as

 

771

00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,160

you, as you'd like it to be.

 

772

00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:31,630

Um, the, to be honest with you,

like I had been doing auditioning

 

773

00:34:31,630 --> 00:34:32,920

for pilots my whole life.

 

774

00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:33,850

I never got one.

 

775

00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,840

And I remember auditioning for this

and at the same time, like auditioning

 

776

00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,820

for, uh, like a guest star on Blue

Bloods or something, and really only

 

777

00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:45,430

caring about the Blue Bloods guest star.

 

778

00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:47,080

'cause I was like, no one gets a pilot.

 

779

00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,100

This doesn't happen.

 

780

00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:48,955

It's like winning the lottery.

 

781

00:34:48,955 --> 00:34:49,315

Mm-hmm.

 

782

00:34:49,395 --> 00:34:50,140

Like, what's the point?

 

783

00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,740

Um, and I was very wrong in that.

 

784

00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:59,650

Um, but, uh, I remember, so there

were two auditions that I did in the

 

785

00:34:59,650 --> 00:35:01,150

day that I auditioned for ghosts.

 

786

00:35:01,420 --> 00:35:04,480

Um, I won't mention the name of

the other project, but the other

 

787

00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,260

project was for the person casting.

 

788

00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:11,470

It had been someone I hadn't

seen in like a decade.

 

789

00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:18,100

And when I was younger had said something

to the, was basically like he can't act.

 

790

00:35:18,915 --> 00:35:22,365

You know, um, and, and it had gotten,

he was like, don't send him back.

 

791

00:35:22,365 --> 00:35:22,575

Here.

 

792

00:35:22,575 --> 00:35:23,505

He is, he is not good.

 

793

00:35:24,105 --> 00:35:27,645

And I, I was aware of that and

it like, killed me for years.

 

794

00:35:28,095 --> 00:35:32,055

And the audition I had right before

Ghost was for that same casting director.

 

795

00:35:32,775 --> 00:35:36,825

So it's the first time I was gonna see

them since that really bad experience.

 

796

00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:40,995

So it meant a lot to me,

uh, to do well on that.

 

797

00:35:40,995 --> 00:35:43,065

And I think they were running, like,

I, I think I was waiting like an

 

798

00:35:43,065 --> 00:35:44,595

hour and a half for that audition.

 

799

00:35:45,105 --> 00:35:50,985

Um, and uh, I went in and did

it, uh, and it went very well.

 

800

00:35:50,985 --> 00:35:56,835

And the guy was like, oh wow, you okay,

you've changed or you know, whatever.

 

801

00:35:56,985 --> 00:35:58,935

I can't remember what he said, but

something, it's something where

 

802

00:35:58,935 --> 00:36:02,655

I walked out of the room and I

was like a, that monkey's all.

 

803

00:36:02,715 --> 00:36:03,075

Now, did he

 

804

00:36:03,075 --> 00:36:05,745

Marc Preston: remember you, I mean,

did he remember from the decade earlier

 

805

00:36:05,745 --> 00:36:07,155

you had actually auditioned before?

 

806

00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:11,040

Asher Grodman: Yeah, he m the casting

people have a very good memory.

 

807

00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,000

It's kind of, yeah, that's one,

 

808

00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,070

Marc Preston: that's one thing it's

tell my voiceover students, I always say

 

809

00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:18,240

that the people doing casting agents,

they remember if you just light the

 

810

00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,830

world on fire and they also remember if

you stink up the room in between, the

 

811

00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:24,630

memory may not be as good, you know?

 

812

00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:25,035

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

813

00:36:25,155 --> 00:36:25,275

I

 

814

00:36:25,275 --> 00:36:27,210

Asher Grodman: mean, it might have

been, I think I might've been in high

 

815

00:36:27,210 --> 00:36:32,160

school the last time, so maybe even like

more than a decade over, closer to two

 

816

00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,750

decades when I was, um, uh, in there,

um, now this was the project, this was

 

817

00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:37,860

Marc Preston: the other project besides

 

818

00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:38,220

Asher Grodman: Ghost

 

819

00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:38,850

Marc Preston: is what you

were referring this, the other

 

820

00:36:38,850 --> 00:36:39,240

Asher Grodman: project.

 

821

00:36:39,390 --> 00:36:39,720

Okay.

 

822

00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:42,510

So, needless to say, I'm walking

outta this thing and I'm feeling like,

 

823

00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:44,490

oh, I'm, I'm breathing fresh air.

 

824

00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:45,270

I'm feeling great.

 

825

00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:51,420

Um, and then Ghost was, was very unique

because I, I read it obviously, and when

 

826

00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:53,195

I read it I was like, this is brilliant.

 

827

00:36:53,295 --> 00:36:53,715

Mm-hmm.

 

828

00:36:53,825 --> 00:36:56,280

This is, the writing is so specific.

 

829

00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:59,010

Each of these characters

have specific voices.

 

830

00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:03,390

The concepts for the show was like

a once in a generation concept

 

831

00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:06,780

because it, it's, it's so funny.

 

832

00:37:07,455 --> 00:37:13,274

It's so, um, uh, unexpected and

has this fresh point of view, and

 

833

00:37:13,274 --> 00:37:16,785

yet it's very, very, um, relatable.

 

834

00:37:16,964 --> 00:37:17,895

I know that sounds crazy.

 

835

00:37:17,895 --> 00:37:20,835

It's a bunch of ghosts, you know, living

in a house, but it's relatable in the

 

836

00:37:20,835 --> 00:37:26,205

sense that we're, it, it is a comedy

about death and it makes death, which

 

837

00:37:26,234 --> 00:37:29,714

is something that you, you of course is

something that none of us can fathom.

 

838

00:37:30,825 --> 00:37:33,285

Suddenly sound boring.

 

839

00:37:33,795 --> 00:37:33,884

Mm-hmm.

 

840

00:37:34,125 --> 00:37:35,024

And mundane.

 

841

00:37:35,265 --> 00:37:38,895

And so suddenly things that

are inaccessible are, are.

 

842

00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,520

Exceedingly accessible.

 

843

00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:46,980

So it was just something fresh that I had

never experienced before on, on the page.

 

844

00:37:47,580 --> 00:37:50,250

And uh, I remember

thinking, this thing works.

 

845

00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,850

I just have to get outta the way

and let it, and let it really sing.

 

846

00:37:54,030 --> 00:37:56,580

The only thing that I tried to add

to it a little bit is a little bit

 

847

00:37:56,580 --> 00:38:02,580

of like a puppy ish quality for this

guy, Trevor, because I didn't want,

 

848

00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:08,190

I was, I didn't want it to be kind

of a OneNote, like just douchey vibe.

 

849

00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:14,520

Um, and so, um, I show up to this audition

for ghosts an hour and a half late.

 

850

00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:16,080

'cause I was held up with the other one.

 

851

00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,980

They were running so far behind

and I got into the room and, um.

 

852

00:38:21,015 --> 00:38:24,435

Uh, the only people in the

room in the waiting room.

 

853

00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:30,795

It was, uh, me, uh, Alexander Chaplin,

um, and, uh, who's a great actor,

 

854

00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,154

and Josh Molina, who's also a great

actor and is a, uh, was on the West

 

855

00:38:34,154 --> 00:38:35,325

Wing, which is my favorite show.

 

856

00:38:35,805 --> 00:38:40,125

And so I took that as a little, a little

sign of, of Kismet or something like that.

 

857

00:38:40,125 --> 00:38:40,125

Mm-hmm.

 

858

00:38:40,299 --> 00:38:45,105

Um, and went in and did this audition,

had a blast, and then probably heard

 

859

00:38:45,194 --> 00:38:50,295

like a week later that they, I was

the choice, which was insane to hear.

 

860

00:38:50,835 --> 00:38:57,884

Um, and then waited a bit longer for them

to find someone else to test me against.

 

861

00:38:58,035 --> 00:38:58,904

Yeah, I was gonna ask you

 

862

00:38:58,904 --> 00:39:01,455

Marc Preston: with an ensemble, I mean,

it would seem like that at some point,

 

863

00:39:01,455 --> 00:39:02,595

you've gotta get in the room with.

 

864

00:39:02,895 --> 00:39:06,944

Other people you're gonna be, uh, I mean

every scene I've seen the show so far.

 

865

00:39:07,185 --> 00:39:08,234

You're always with somebody.

 

866

00:39:08,234 --> 00:39:11,355

Rarely are you just kind of by your, well,

there was one, well you, I think the one

 

867

00:39:11,355 --> 00:39:15,105

thing I did see you were trying to knock

a vase over or whatever and you were

 

868

00:39:15,105 --> 00:39:18,645

just like, I was like, it was, it was,

and the frustration of trying to like,

 

869

00:39:18,645 --> 00:39:19,785

I'm a ghost, I can't knock this over.

 

870

00:39:19,785 --> 00:39:23,174

But, so, but everything else I've seen,

there's, the interactions are what

 

871

00:39:23,174 --> 00:39:24,404

kind of what make it funny, you know?

 

872

00:39:24,435 --> 00:39:25,185

'cause you have people.

 

873

00:39:25,214 --> 00:39:25,305

Yeah.

 

874

00:39:25,339 --> 00:39:29,895

The, the premise again for folks who have

had the opportunity to check it out, it's

 

875

00:39:29,895 --> 00:39:34,964

basically everybody is from different

eras, time genre they had and that.

 

876

00:39:35,475 --> 00:39:37,575

When they died, they were

kinda locked in that spot.

 

877

00:39:37,575 --> 00:39:40,334

But I never understood your character.

 

878

00:39:40,334 --> 00:39:41,955

Why you didn't have pants on?

 

879

00:39:41,955 --> 00:39:43,200

I don't know if I haven't

gotten to that point yet.

 

880

00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:43,399

Um,

 

881

00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:45,854

Asher Grodman: you have to

get to the end of season one.

 

882

00:39:46,334 --> 00:39:46,634

Okay.

 

883

00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:47,024

I got

 

884

00:39:47,714 --> 00:39:50,984

Marc Preston: But when you die dealt,

when you die, you didn't have pants on.

 

885

00:39:50,984 --> 00:39:51,794

And that's kind of the thing.

 

886

00:39:51,794 --> 00:39:54,975

So the way you died is the way

you perpetuate and to eternity.

 

887

00:39:54,975 --> 00:39:55,004

Okay.

 

888

00:39:55,004 --> 00:39:55,125

Yes.

 

889

00:39:55,575 --> 00:39:59,444

Asher Grodman: But the, the idea of the,

the show is that, is that, um, you are

 

890

00:39:59,444 --> 00:40:01,875

forever in the state in which you died.

 

891

00:40:02,055 --> 00:40:02,145

Mm-hmm.

 

892

00:40:02,384 --> 00:40:05,595

Which leads lends itself

to a lot of very funny, um.

 

893

00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:10,799

Uh, snapshots and into, into different

people and their personalities.

 

894

00:40:11,339 --> 00:40:14,129

Um, but, but yeah, but, and you're right.

 

895

00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:16,230

Uh, yes.

 

896

00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:18,299

They had to get us together

before that even happened.

 

897

00:40:18,330 --> 00:40:21,870

The way you, you do that, that studio

network test that I was describing

 

898

00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:24,930

earlier is that they always wanna

send multiple people to the studio

 

899

00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:28,259

or the network so that the studio,

the network can say no to someone.

 

900

00:40:28,305 --> 00:40:28,725

Mm-hmm.

 

901

00:40:28,805 --> 00:40:32,009

So you don't ever send just the guy

you like or the person you like,

 

902

00:40:32,009 --> 00:40:34,620

'cause they're just gonna probably

say no, you give them options.

 

903

00:40:34,620 --> 00:40:37,770

So I kind of waited around for a

few weeks for 'em to find someone

 

904

00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:40,440

else to be sent in with me.

 

905

00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,109

And as an actor who's, you know, on the

precipice of having a dream job, you're

 

906

00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:45,120

like, no, don't find someone else.

 

907

00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,400

You do me.

 

908

00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:48,540

Um, so.

 

909

00:40:51,555 --> 00:40:57,645

And, uh, I just tried to do as many

put out, you know, good, good vibes.

 

910

00:40:57,705 --> 00:41:00,884

Uh, did a, did a lot of favors

for everyone in my life,

 

911

00:41:00,884 --> 00:41:01,995

hoping the universe will,

 

912

00:41:02,654 --> 00:41:03,525

Marc Preston: you're

looking for the good car.

 

913

00:41:03,765 --> 00:41:04,065

Yeah.

 

914

00:41:04,305 --> 00:41:06,825

I said, I know, uh, with Rose

MacGyver being in that, she

 

915

00:41:06,825 --> 00:41:08,234

was so good in that show.

 

916

00:41:08,234 --> 00:41:09,375

Uh, I was it Isaac?

 

917

00:41:09,375 --> 00:41:09,435

Yeah.

 

918

00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:11,025

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

919

00:41:11,174 --> 00:41:12,045

She's amazing.

 

920

00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:13,755

Asher Grodman: But, but to

get to your point that you,

 

921

00:41:13,755 --> 00:41:15,255

you brought up earlier Yes.

 

922

00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:19,904

What, eventually what happens when, when

I got the, the job is they fly everyone

 

923

00:41:19,904 --> 00:41:24,404

out to LA and that they fly the cast out.

 

924

00:41:24,404 --> 00:41:27,855

And so what happens then is the table

read and table reads are kind of

 

925

00:41:27,855 --> 00:41:35,444

notorious for feeling like it's the

first step of the new chapter, but are

 

926

00:41:35,444 --> 00:41:40,515

really kind of the last step of the

previous chapter because invariably

 

927

00:41:41,025 --> 00:41:42,884

someone gets fired at a table read.

 

928

00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:43,515

Yeah.

 

929

00:41:43,785 --> 00:41:44,835

It's the last chapter of the

 

930

00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:45,615

Marc Preston: audition book.

 

931

00:41:45,765 --> 00:41:46,065

Yeah.

 

932

00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:46,725

Asher Grodman: Yes.

 

933

00:41:47,085 --> 00:41:50,384

So it it's everyone on the

business side seeing everyone.

 

934

00:41:50,759 --> 00:41:51,930

Together for the first time.

 

935

00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:56,370

And so we had this week in LA to do

the table read for this thing where we

 

936

00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:57,600

thought it was gonna be on a Monday.

 

937

00:41:58,230 --> 00:42:00,690

So we all showed up on the Monday

and they were like, oh, no, no,

 

938

00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:01,379

we're not gonna do it today.

 

939

00:42:01,379 --> 00:42:01,950

We'll do it tomorrow.

 

940

00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:03,569

Okay.

 

941

00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:05,069

We all show up on the Tuesday.

 

942

00:42:05,069 --> 00:42:06,330

No, no, no, actually we're

not gonna do it today.

 

943

00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:06,990

We'll do it tomorrow.

 

944

00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:08,669

Okay.

 

945

00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:10,680

Show up Wednesday.

 

946

00:42:10,685 --> 00:42:11,879

No, no, no, you know, we're gonna do it.

 

947

00:42:11,879 --> 00:42:12,660

We'll do it on Thursday.

 

948

00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,220

And they kept, get pushed

and pushed and pushed.

 

949

00:42:14,220 --> 00:42:19,950

And meanwhile, over the course of

this week, this is March of 2020, so

 

950

00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:22,109

oh, the NBA shuts down on Wednesday.

 

951

00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:26,759

And, uh, I can't remember, I

think Tom Hanks gets, is covid

 

952

00:42:26,759 --> 00:42:28,259

positive on, oh God, I forgot about

 

953

00:42:28,259 --> 00:42:28,529

Marc Preston: that.

 

954

00:42:28,595 --> 00:42:30,509

I, I think I've tried to

forget about a lot of that.

 

955

00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:31,109

Yeah.

 

956

00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:34,259

Tom Hanks was sort of like, he's

like a Forrest Gump gets it.

 

957

00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:35,640

Any of us can get it.

 

958

00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:36,540

Asher Grodman: Any of us can get it.

 

959

00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:37,049

That's right.

 

960

00:42:37,049 --> 00:42:37,589

That's right.

 

961

00:42:37,890 --> 00:42:41,069

And so as they're, they keep pushing it

and we're all dealing with the stress

 

962

00:42:41,069 --> 00:42:42,509

of this table read eventually happening.

 

963

00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,000

Um, eventually we do the

table read on a Friday.

 

964

00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:49,170

We get through it, everyone keeps

their jobs, which is amazing.

 

965

00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:49,650

A miracle.

 

966

00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:50,160

Amazing.

 

967

00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,130

Um, and then we found out like, I

think 20 minutes after that, uh, as

 

968

00:42:56,130 --> 00:42:59,310

we were having lunch that, um, no,

we're gonna shut everything down.

 

969

00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,560

And at the time they were like, oh,

we'll see you in a couple weeks.

 

970

00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,310

Uh, and I think we all knew deep down

that wasn't gonna be the case and it

 

971

00:43:05,310 --> 00:43:10,410

wouldn't be, it would be a full calendar

year from that moment over more than a

 

972

00:43:10,410 --> 00:43:14,040

year until we were picked up for series.

 

973

00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:14,370

Mm-hmm.

 

974

00:43:14,970 --> 00:43:18,840

Marc Preston: How does that feel for you

to be on something that is, you know,

 

975

00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:21,690

'cause in the, in the movie world, you're

on different project every few months.

 

976

00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:21,750

Yeah.

 

977

00:43:22,755 --> 00:43:26,310

Was there a preference for you to like,

Hey, I, I like the, it's, I wanna say

 

978

00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:30,300

security is, that's not it, but the,

the, the rhythm and the thing, it's

 

979

00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:31,380

Asher Grodman: security that,

 

980

00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:31,800

Marc Preston: that exists.

 

981

00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:32,880

Yes.

 

982

00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,780

For, well, sure.

 

983

00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:36,660

That goes without saying, but is

it something that you're looking at

 

984

00:43:36,660 --> 00:43:39,510

going, you know what, this is cool.

 

985

00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:42,330

You get to go, you get to

be with the same people.

 

986

00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:44,280

You get to, you know, and it's, uh.

 

987

00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,210

You know, you get to

really explore this guy.

 

988

00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:52,350

Uh, or, or is it kind of like, or do you,

or do you enjoy the more theatrical thing

 

989

00:43:52,350 --> 00:43:53,759

you're on a picture for a few months?

 

990

00:43:53,759 --> 00:43:55,560

Or is there even a preference there?

 

991

00:43:58,170 --> 00:44:00,360

Asher Grodman: I think everyone

really wants balance, right?

 

992

00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:07,410

But what is special about this is, um,

the idea of having any job that lasts for

 

993

00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:13,380

a few months, much less than, much less

six years potentially, um, is pretty rare.

 

994

00:44:13,380 --> 00:44:18,840

And so you, you always would say

yes to that, especially considering

 

995

00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:22,410

the, the concept of this show.

 

996

00:44:22,410 --> 00:44:28,350

And even more than that, the people,

uh, in this cast and in the, the group

 

997

00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:32,400

of people who make this our crew,

um, it, if this, if this were the

 

998

00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,540

kind of show we're going to work was

like, oh, I just gotta get through it.

 

999

00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:38,310

Um, it'd be, it would be rough.

 

1000

00:44:38,549 --> 00:44:42,240

Um, but instead we have this,

and I don't know how we got this.

 

1001

00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:43,259

Lucky, I don't know.

 

1002

00:44:43,950 --> 00:44:45,270

How it worked this way.

 

1003

00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:52,020

But everyone in the show is super humble

and we really have this ensemble vibe.

 

1004

00:44:52,259 --> 00:44:55,500

The thing that I always point to

is, you know, we, what happens a

 

1005

00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,410

lot on a film set is you go in, you

do your block blocking rehearsal.

 

1006

00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:01,440

So you go in, you block

scene with the director.

 

1007

00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:04,770

There's not much in the way of,

of a ton of creativity in this.

 

1008

00:45:04,770 --> 00:45:06,150

You're just kind of like figuring it out.

 

1009

00:45:06,154 --> 00:45:06,255

Mm-hmm.

 

1010

00:45:06,335 --> 00:45:10,560

You're working out the kinks and um, and

then you leave and most people kind of

 

1011

00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,380

go off into their own areas On shows.

 

1012

00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:18,600

On our show, we go back and the whole

cast gets together and starts reading.

 

1013

00:45:18,975 --> 00:45:21,765

And starts playing and

starts figuring out moments.

 

1014

00:45:22,185 --> 00:45:25,065

And that's very unique for a show.

 

1015

00:45:25,155 --> 00:45:28,515

It's very unique that people are that

detail oriented and care that much

 

1016

00:45:28,515 --> 00:45:30,884

and enjoy being around each other.

 

1017

00:45:30,915 --> 00:45:35,295

Like, we'll go, we'll go rap after

seven months of, of shooting and

 

1018

00:45:35,295 --> 00:45:37,995

it's gonna be a matter of days before

the phone starts ringing again.

 

1019

00:45:37,995 --> 00:45:41,850

And we're chatting with each other

and, and checking in and you know,

 

1020

00:45:41,985 --> 00:45:43,245

and starting to miss each other.

 

1021

00:45:43,485 --> 00:45:43,665

Marc Preston: So I

 

1022

00:45:43,665 --> 00:45:44,715

Asher Grodman: think

it's very cool because

 

1023

00:45:44,715 --> 00:45:47,955

Marc Preston: like they say, you

know, TV's a a writer's medium,

 

1024

00:45:47,955 --> 00:45:49,725

whereas movies are director's medium.

 

1025

00:45:49,725 --> 00:45:51,405

So, you know, you're

rotating in directors.

 

1026

00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:53,775

And I always thought, you know, once

you've been doing a character for so

 

1027

00:45:53,775 --> 00:45:58,035

long, so many episodes, uh, so many

seasons, it's sort of like you know him.

 

1028

00:45:58,155 --> 00:46:00,585

Are you at the point now where if

something comes up in a script,

 

1029

00:46:00,855 --> 00:46:02,145

do you ever give feedback?

 

1030

00:46:02,145 --> 00:46:05,865

Like, I don't know if I'd say it or maybe,

what can we do you have more creative

 

1031

00:46:05,865 --> 00:46:10,155

input now that you've kind of been in his,

I was gonna say, in his pants or shoes?

 

1032

00:46:10,155 --> 00:46:10,455

Well.

 

1033

00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,260

Uh, you've been wearing whatever

attire you've been wearing.

 

1034

00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:13,560

Yeah,

 

1035

00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:14,730

Asher Grodman: that's right.

 

1036

00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:15,240

That's right.

 

1037

00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:19,050

Um, do I, I guess more

so than in the beginning.

 

1038

00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:22,500

And I think our, our writers do,

they will occasionally reach out and

 

1039

00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:23,550

be like, what do you think of this?

 

1040

00:46:23,550 --> 00:46:26,220

You know, um, or they'll let

us in on stuff a little more.

 

1041

00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:31,560

And I think all of us kind of, for the

most part, we, we will trust the writers.

 

1042

00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:35,340

'cause it is a writer's medium and,

and our, our writer's room and our

 

1043

00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:37,320

showrunners do a really great job.

 

1044

00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:43,080

Um, uh, but occasionally there'll

be something where as the years have

 

1045

00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,370

gone by and, and, you know, uh, and

you get more and more comfortable and

 

1046

00:46:47,370 --> 00:46:52,560

you get more and more, uh, I guess, I

guess the character comes into focus

 

1047

00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,270

more, that I'll, I'll throw an idea

out or I'll say, Hey, I saw this.

 

1048

00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:58,350

What do you think about this?

 

1049

00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,410

Um, but again, it's.

 

1050

00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,440

It, it's more of a comfort

level and it's a, you know,

 

1051

00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,850

it's, it's starting a dialogue.

 

1052

00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,920

Um, 'cause at the end of the

day, you're absolutely right.

 

1053

00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,350

It is a writer's medium and, uh,

especially with how fast it goes.

 

1054

00:47:13,649 --> 00:47:16,589

'cause there are days, uh, especially

in the back half of the season that

 

1055

00:47:16,589 --> 00:47:20,129

we're getting scripts the night

before, the morning of, and we shoot

 

1056

00:47:20,129 --> 00:47:24,180

it in Montreal, or writers in are in

la So sometimes it's even just like

 

1057

00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:25,440

a logistical thing, like mm-hmm.

 

1058

00:47:25,710 --> 00:47:27,690

People are not awake when

other people are working.

 

1059

00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:35,069

Um, and so you just kind of, uh, you

put your best, your best idea forward

 

1060

00:47:35,069 --> 00:47:36,569

and, and you, you make it work.

 

1061

00:47:36,569 --> 00:47:41,580

But, um, yeah, it's, it's certainly

whatever's on the page is our North Star.

 

1062

00:47:41,879 --> 00:47:41,970

Mm-hmm.

 

1063

00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:44,490

We're trying to bring that

to life as best we can.

 

1064

00:47:44,879 --> 00:47:48,960

Um, so yeah, we're lucky in,

in, in that the door is open

 

1065

00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,009

for that kind of collaboration.

 

1066

00:47:50,009 --> 00:47:53,520

But for the most part, you said

it best, it is a writer's medium.

 

1067

00:48:00,779 --> 00:48:02,220

Marc Preston: We've, uh,

reached that point to where I

 

1068

00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:03,900

always hit my seven questions.

 

1069

00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:05,460

Just a little extra fun.

 

1070

00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:08,460

I throw out it's, everybody

gets them same questions, just

 

1071

00:48:08,460 --> 00:48:09,540

like to have a little extra fun.

 

1072

00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:12,509

And you mentioned before you were

shooting in Montreal, so I, you know,

 

1073

00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:13,860

'cause I always wanna talk about food.

 

1074

00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:14,310

Montreal.

 

1075

00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:15,270

Was it, or is Toronto?

 

1076

00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:19,770

Ah, one of the two has like a good,

some good unique Canadian deli stuff.

 

1077

00:48:19,770 --> 00:48:22,980

So I'm in a place where we don't have

a Jewish deli, which my heart breaks.

 

1078

00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:23,040

Wow.

 

1079

00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,009

But I do know how to make my own

locks, so we're kind of there.

 

1080

00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:26,670

Very nice.

 

1081

00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:28,650

But I always talk a little food.

 

1082

00:48:28,650 --> 00:48:32,970

First question I always ask is,

what is your favorite comfort food?

 

1083

00:48:33,029 --> 00:48:36,420

That one thing that, uh, kind of bad day.

 

1084

00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:36,839

Good day.

 

1085

00:48:36,839 --> 00:48:38,190

You just, it just makes you feel good.

 

1086

00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:42,660

Asher Grodman: Mine's this is,

this is, uh, well I don't think

 

1087

00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:45,360

anyone will have said this before,

so there's that, but it's probably

 

1088

00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,620

not the answer you're looking for.

 

1089

00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:55,140

Um, uh, I, a green apple covered

in caramel brings me so much joy.

 

1090

00:48:56,045 --> 00:48:59,850

Uh, I cannot begin to express

it, but it has to be agreement.

 

1091

00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:00,985

It has to be a Randy Smith apple.

 

1092

00:49:00,985 --> 00:49:01,530

I say Apple This,

 

1093

00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:04,470

Marc Preston: I will say this, growing up

in Dallas, Texas State Fair, the little

 

1094

00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:06,030

candy apples, everybody loves them.

 

1095

00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:09,810

I preferred the caramel apple

way more than the smart candy.

 

1096

00:49:10,110 --> 00:49:10,320

Oh my.

 

1097

00:49:10,325 --> 00:49:11,190

Yes, yes.

 

1098

00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:15,465

It's, uh, there is something about when

you take, uh, the, the sweetness tartness

 

1099

00:49:15,465 --> 00:49:17,670

of the apple with the, uh, the caramel.

 

1100

00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:19,440

I, I, I haven't had lunch yet.

 

1101

00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,070

Now I'm hungry.

 

1102

00:49:20,430 --> 00:49:22,020

Um, but very cool.

 

1103

00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:22,560

I like that.

 

1104

00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,410

Now the next question, if you're

gonna sit down, talk story for

 

1105

00:49:25,410 --> 00:49:30,780

a few hours, uh, with, uh, three

people living or not, oh my God.

 

1106

00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:34,590

Who would you like to sit down with

and, uh, these three people for

 

1107

00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,450

an afternoon of just talking story

 

1108

00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:38,670

Asher Grodman: to talk story?

 

1109

00:49:39,765 --> 00:49:41,025

Marc Preston: Uh, I would choose.

 

1110

00:49:41,025 --> 00:49:43,380

It could be not just that you wanna

talk to 'em, but it may be them

 

1111

00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:46,500

interacting with one another is something

that would be kinda fun to observe.

 

1112

00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:48,450

Asher Grodman: Let's go with.

 

1113

00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,810

I mean, there's a lot of people who

would fit the bill on this, but let's

 

1114

00:49:51,810 --> 00:49:57,660

just have some fun and let's say,

um, let's say Philip Seymour Hoffman.

 

1115

00:49:58,170 --> 00:49:59,310

Ah, yeah.

 

1116

00:49:59,310 --> 00:50:02,670

Who was like my kind of

acting idol, uh, growing up.

 

1117

00:50:02,730 --> 00:50:05,520

Marc Preston: You gotta tell me your

favorite Philip Seymour Hoffman, uh, film.

 

1118

00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:08,880

Um, what's my favorite

 

1119

00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,780

Asher Grodman: film?

 

1120

00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,560

I think, um, that's harder.

 

1121

00:50:14,130 --> 00:50:19,620

I think my favorite performance was

before The Devil Knows You're Dead.

 

1122

00:50:20,430 --> 00:50:22,890

Uh, which is just incredible.

 

1123

00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:30,300

Um, my favorite film, uh, oh,

that's, that's, that's hard.

 

1124

00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:31,230

That's really hard.

 

1125

00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,070

Um.

 

1126

00:50:33,105 --> 00:50:33,525

Uh,

 

1127

00:50:35,835 --> 00:50:36,884

I'll go Boogie Nights.

 

1128

00:50:37,035 --> 00:50:37,875

Marc Preston: Why was that film?

 

1129

00:50:37,875 --> 00:50:37,904

Oh,

 

1130

00:50:37,965 --> 00:50:38,505

Asher Grodman: I'm sorry.

 

1131

00:50:38,595 --> 00:50:39,525

No, I'm sorry.

 

1132

00:50:39,525 --> 00:50:40,935

I'm so, so sorry.

 

1133

00:50:40,935 --> 00:50:42,075

Boogie Nights is a masterpiece.

 

1134

00:50:42,075 --> 00:50:42,585

It's amazing.

 

1135

00:50:42,645 --> 00:50:42,825

Yeah.

 

1136

00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:42,980

Yeah.

 

1137

00:50:42,985 --> 00:50:48,884

But the no, one of my favorite movies

of all time, uh, is Moneyball, and he

 

1138

00:50:48,884 --> 00:50:51,105

is, he is, he's great in Moneyball.

 

1139

00:50:51,105 --> 00:50:53,325

There are other performances

that are more sparkly.

 

1140

00:50:53,775 --> 00:50:56,205

Um, but that is the, that is the best.

 

1141

00:50:56,265 --> 00:50:56,895

That's my favorite film.

 

1142

00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:59,625

Marc Preston: I, I think some of

his best performances have been in

 

1143

00:50:59,625 --> 00:51:01,695

some of the smaller roles he's done.

 

1144

00:51:02,025 --> 00:51:02,085

Yeah.

 

1145

00:51:02,085 --> 00:51:04,425

Or the ones where he didn't get

as much screen time, like the,

 

1146

00:51:04,425 --> 00:51:07,035

uh uh, uh, uh, almost famous.

 

1147

00:51:07,035 --> 00:51:09,754

I. You know, that Uhhuh just,

you know, uh, but there was

 

1148

00:51:09,754 --> 00:51:11,285

one He's great in Twister.

 

1149

00:51:11,495 --> 00:51:11,705

Yeah.

 

1150

00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:12,299

Yeah.

 

1151

00:51:12,845 --> 00:51:16,265

There is a, uh, uh, um,

oh, this, this one movie.

 

1152

00:51:17,194 --> 00:51:20,645

It's, they, some of the ti sometimes

titles the boat that rocked.

 

1153

00:51:20,674 --> 00:51:23,585

Other times it's, it's, uh, pirate Radio.

 

1154

00:51:23,585 --> 00:51:25,654

It's where the He was Oh,

they're on, on the ship.

 

1155

00:51:25,685 --> 00:51:25,955

Yes.

 

1156

00:51:26,765 --> 00:51:28,444

That was, that was a good one.

 

1157

00:51:28,535 --> 00:51:29,555

I'm an old radio guy.

 

1158

00:51:29,555 --> 00:51:29,645

Yes.

 

1159

00:51:29,645 --> 00:51:32,375

So I think so, so we got Phil,

Philip Seymour Hoffman there.

 

1160

00:51:32,375 --> 00:51:33,845

Now who else are you

gonna be sitting down?

 

1161

00:51:33,904 --> 00:51:34,205

Asher Grodman: Let's go.

 

1162

00:51:34,205 --> 00:51:35,165

Philip Seymour Hoffman.

 

1163

00:51:35,165 --> 00:51:38,585

We'll go Marlon Brando just

for the, the, the fun of it.

 

1164

00:51:38,944 --> 00:51:43,384

Um, and, uh, uh, and he's

obviously was a genius.

 

1165

00:51:43,625 --> 00:51:46,145

And I'll go Martin McDonough, um, okay.

 

1166

00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:49,835

Playwright, writer, director,

who's, um, just my favorite.

 

1167

00:51:49,835 --> 00:51:50,464

I love him.

 

1168

00:51:50,645 --> 00:51:51,365

Marc Preston: Well, very good.

 

1169

00:51:51,365 --> 00:51:51,694

Very good.

 

1170

00:51:51,694 --> 00:51:55,384

Now, if we were to go back, uh,

we, you had your crushes, as

 

1171

00:51:55,384 --> 00:51:56,705

did I in junior high, Uhhuh.

 

1172

00:51:56,984 --> 00:52:00,395

But going back, who was your very

first celebrity crush as a kid?

 

1173

00:52:00,904 --> 00:52:02,044

The Pink Power Ranger.

 

1174

00:52:02,745 --> 00:52:04,575

The Pink Power Ranger?

 

1175

00:52:04,665 --> 00:52:04,725

Yeah.

 

1176

00:52:04,725 --> 00:52:05,265

Okay.

 

1177

00:52:05,475 --> 00:52:06,105

I think so.

 

1178

00:52:06,105 --> 00:52:07,245

Uh, you know what?

 

1179

00:52:07,245 --> 00:52:10,005

I think the Power Ranger is

just a little bit after my time.

 

1180

00:52:10,005 --> 00:52:10,785

So, uh, it, it would

 

1181

00:52:11,115 --> 00:52:14,715

Asher Grodman: either be that or Michelle

Pfeiffer's, cat one, one of those.

 

1182

00:52:14,715 --> 00:52:15,105

One of those

 

1183

00:52:15,105 --> 00:52:15,165

Marc Preston: two.

 

1184

00:52:15,165 --> 00:52:16,425

Ah, okay.

 

1185

00:52:16,455 --> 00:52:17,325

Uh, that's the very first.

 

1186

00:52:17,325 --> 00:52:17,865

Michelle Pfeiffer.

 

1187

00:52:17,865 --> 00:52:18,795

We gotten very good.

 

1188

00:52:19,035 --> 00:52:19,335

Really?

 

1189

00:52:19,365 --> 00:52:19,635

Okay.

 

1190

00:52:21,570 --> 00:52:23,955

I have, have not gotten any

other Michelle Pfeiffer's.

 

1191

00:52:24,015 --> 00:52:26,055

Uh, I'm disappointed in humanity.

 

1192

00:52:26,445 --> 00:52:27,855

She was in Scarface, wasn't she?

 

1193

00:52:27,915 --> 00:52:28,815

She was in Scarface.

 

1194

00:52:28,820 --> 00:52:29,090

Yeah.

 

1195

00:52:29,090 --> 00:52:29,565

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

1196

00:52:29,565 --> 00:52:32,565

So that was, you know, uh,

that was a good, see, I can

 

1197

00:52:32,565 --> 00:52:33,885

just talk movies all day here.

 

1198

00:52:33,975 --> 00:52:36,945

Um, now it, next question I got for you.

 

1199

00:52:36,945 --> 00:52:39,255

If you're gonna be living on

an exotic island somewhere, you

 

1200

00:52:39,255 --> 00:52:40,545

want to be, it's, it's great.

 

1201

00:52:40,545 --> 00:52:41,355

It's relaxing.

 

1202

00:52:41,355 --> 00:52:41,475

It.

 

1203

00:52:41,625 --> 00:52:45,075

You could be there for a whole

year, but you don't have streaming.

 

1204

00:52:45,345 --> 00:52:49,545

So if you wanna listen to music,

you're only allowed one CD and you're

 

1205

00:52:49,545 --> 00:52:52,485

only allowed 1D VD to watch a movie.

 

1206

00:52:53,085 --> 00:52:55,335

Uh, something you watch over

and over again, an album you

 

1207

00:52:55,335 --> 00:52:56,415

can listen to over and over.

 

1208

00:52:56,415 --> 00:52:58,575

And I will accept box sets.

 

1209

00:52:58,575 --> 00:52:58,605

I,

 

1210

00:52:59,589 --> 00:53:02,930

Asher Grodman: so I get one CD

and 1D VD Uhhuh or I just get one.

 

1211

00:53:03,404 --> 00:53:03,884

Okay.

 

1212

00:53:03,884 --> 00:53:04,305

You just get

 

1213

00:53:04,305 --> 00:53:05,234

Marc Preston: one, like the whole year.

 

1214

00:53:05,234 --> 00:53:07,424

You get, if you wanna listen

to an album, you got that one

 

1215

00:53:07,424 --> 00:53:08,205

that you brought with you,

 

1216

00:53:08,924 --> 00:53:11,595

Asher Grodman: I'd probably do like

a, it's probably cheating, but I'll

 

1217

00:53:11,595 --> 00:53:14,924

do like a Bruce Springsteen greatest

hits or something just to really try to

 

1218

00:53:14,924 --> 00:53:16,424

squeeze as much as I can out of that.

 

1219

00:53:16,995 --> 00:53:19,185

Um, and then, uh, dog Day afternoon.

 

1220

00:53:19,785 --> 00:53:21,855

Marc Preston: Well, you're the

new New Jersey boy, so, you know.

 

1221

00:53:22,125 --> 00:53:22,875

That's right.

 

1222

00:53:22,875 --> 00:53:25,665

Boss has got, you know, and, and,

uh, and, and the movie again.

 

1223

00:53:25,665 --> 00:53:26,145

What was that?

 

1224

00:53:26,564 --> 00:53:27,585

Uh, dog Day Afternoon.

 

1225

00:53:27,645 --> 00:53:28,484

Oh, dog Day Afternoon.

 

1226

00:53:28,515 --> 00:53:29,865

Oh, that's a, yeah.

 

1227

00:53:29,895 --> 00:53:30,165

Sidney Lu.

 

1228

00:53:30,524 --> 00:53:31,814

Asher Grodman: Um, Al Pacino's.

 

1229

00:53:31,814 --> 00:53:32,835

Greatest Performance.

 

1230

00:53:33,165 --> 00:53:34,214

Marc Preston: Hey, have

you ever read that book?

 

1231

00:53:34,274 --> 00:53:35,654

Uh, I was just listening.

 

1232

00:53:35,654 --> 00:53:37,095

Somebody talk about

Sidney Luma the other day.

 

1233

00:53:37,095 --> 00:53:41,265

I read a book of his when I first started

acting, and it's basically making movies.

 

1234

00:53:41,625 --> 00:53:41,895

Yeah.

 

1235

00:53:41,895 --> 00:53:42,105

Yeah.

 

1236

00:53:42,105 --> 00:53:46,695

Just the what was a day, basically,

I think the book starts off with his

 

1237

00:53:46,695 --> 00:53:47,955

driver coming and picking him up.

 

1238

00:53:47,955 --> 00:53:48,075

Yeah.

 

1239

00:53:48,075 --> 00:53:49,635

That was one of my favorite acting books.

 

1240

00:53:49,635 --> 00:53:53,175

It wasn't really even about acting, it was

just his impression of actors and just,

 

1241

00:53:53,175 --> 00:53:54,855

it was just kind of a, I just enjoyed it.

 

1242

00:53:55,035 --> 00:53:56,340

Um, you kind of got it.

 

1243

00:53:56,340 --> 00:53:57,015

He wrote a book called

 

1244

00:53:57,015 --> 00:53:59,055

Asher Grodman: Making Movies,

which is a great book.

 

1245

00:53:59,265 --> 00:53:59,835

I think that's

 

1246

00:53:59,835 --> 00:54:00,315

Marc Preston: what it was.

 

1247

00:54:00,315 --> 00:54:04,785

I just remember him just, you know,

early before the Sun comes up going with

 

1248

00:54:04,785 --> 00:54:08,175

his driver and he shows up and he talks

about kind of like some of the onset

 

1249

00:54:08,175 --> 00:54:09,885

politics things you need to consider.

 

1250

00:54:09,885 --> 00:54:13,395

I'm like, you got inside his head for a

moment and I thought that was very cool.

 

1251

00:54:13,425 --> 00:54:13,485

Asher Grodman: Yeah.

 

1252

00:54:13,965 --> 00:54:16,035

Marc Preston: If you were to say from

stem to stern, from the time you get

 

1253

00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:19,455

up in the morning till the time you

go to bed, what are the component

 

1254

00:54:19,455 --> 00:54:22,065

parts for you of a perfect day?

 

1255

00:54:22,065 --> 00:54:25,365

Something that, that, if it's got

these things, it worked out well.

 

1256

00:54:26,925 --> 00:54:32,925

Asher Grodman: Um, some kind of working

out is getting in your body some

 

1257

00:54:32,925 --> 00:54:39,945

fresh air, um, uh, time with a puppy.

 

1258

00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:44,820

Marc Preston: Um, so wait, do, do you,

do you have a puppy or do you have dog?

 

1259

00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,020

I do have a puppy,

 

1260

00:54:46,140 --> 00:54:46,770

Asher Grodman: yes.

 

1261

00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,910

Um, we have a, uh, mini

Aussie doodle here, and then

 

1262

00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:53,520

I have, um, who's wonderful.

 

1263

00:54:53,970 --> 00:54:59,130

Um, and then I have, uh, it's, it's a,

it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, it, it's

 

1264

00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:03,180

tricky 'cause she was a pandemic puppy

who technically lives out, um, with my,

 

1265

00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:05,490

my parents, but quickly became my dog.

 

1266

00:55:05,490 --> 00:55:06,600

'cause I was out there for a year.

 

1267

00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,590

As for a year I was out there as

we were waiting and hoping that one

 

1268

00:55:10,590 --> 00:55:12,300

day we would shoot that, that pilot.

 

1269

00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,640

So we were all in this

deep, deep quarantine.

 

1270

00:55:15,090 --> 00:55:18,900

Um, so she quickly became, uh, my dog.

 

1271

00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:22,260

Um, and then of course I couldn't stay.

 

1272

00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:25,830

I had to leave and she had to stay

'cause I was moving to Montreal.

 

1273

00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:25,950

Mm-hmm.

 

1274

00:55:26,820 --> 00:55:28,260

Um, and then going back and forth.

 

1275

00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:31,800

But her name is Zy and she's

actually Trevor's dog on the show.

 

1276

00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,200

Um, really snuck her in there.

 

1277

00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:35,040

Uh, yeah.

 

1278

00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:37,650

Um, and she's this.

 

1279

00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,950

Wants one in a thousand personality,

uh, who's just like an endless motor.

 

1280

00:55:44,070 --> 00:55:48,090

Um, so I have two very

special, very special girlies.

 

1281

00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,510

Um, so we, we've got

the time with the coach,

 

1282

00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:52,830

Marc Preston: time with a girlfriend,

 

1283

00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:56,580

Asher Grodman: and yes, those are

all important, um, time, you know,

 

1284

00:55:57,090 --> 00:55:58,950

with your body in some fresh air.

 

1285

00:55:59,190 --> 00:56:03,270

I run a weekly pickup football

game, so that's, that's the

 

1286

00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:05,190

greatest that I love doing that.

 

1287

00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:09,000

Um, and getting out and playing and

feeling like you're at recess again.

 

1288

00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:13,110

So I guess those are three things because,

we'll, I guess, we'll, we can combine

 

1289

00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:14,790

football and the physical activity thing.

 

1290

00:56:15,150 --> 00:56:16,290

Um, laughter

 

1291

00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:17,550

Marc Preston: I was thinking

about the other day.

 

1292

00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,670

Somebody said, you need at least

one big good laugh every day and a

 

1293

00:56:20,670 --> 00:56:23,850

hug or, you know, there's certain

things if you get it every day and.

 

1294

00:56:24,225 --> 00:56:28,515

You just feel better yet, especially,

especially now, you know, I'm like,

 

1295

00:56:28,845 --> 00:56:31,964

I, I'm like, I'm going on a news

diet, you know, I think I'm gonna

 

1296

00:56:31,964 --> 00:56:33,615

stop watching these for a week or two.

 

1297

00:56:33,734 --> 00:56:36,765

Um, that's, that's, that's

a good, or, or three years.

 

1298

00:56:36,765 --> 00:56:37,484

It just depends.

 

1299

00:56:37,575 --> 00:56:37,665

Sure.

 

1300

00:56:37,785 --> 00:56:40,575

Um, now if you weren't, next question.

 

1301

00:56:40,575 --> 00:56:44,444

If you weren't doing this for a living,

what, what to you would be a, a, a

 

1302

00:56:44,444 --> 00:56:45,975

very easy, it would bring you joy.

 

1303

00:56:45,975 --> 00:56:48,375

Another gig that would be

like, okay, I can do this.

 

1304

00:56:48,375 --> 00:56:49,395

This is what I'd wanna do.

 

1305

00:56:50,234 --> 00:56:50,475

Asher Grodman: That's

 

1306

00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:51,104

Marc Preston: hard.

 

1307

00:56:51,194 --> 00:56:54,254

Asher Grodman: Um, for a long time I

thought if I really went down a different

 

1308

00:56:54,254 --> 00:56:59,084

path, like doing something in like design

or architecture, something like that.

 

1309

00:56:59,084 --> 00:57:00,165

So I'll go with that.

 

1310

00:57:00,165 --> 00:57:03,645

There's that kind of like quiet

piece that you find when you're kind

 

1311

00:57:03,645 --> 00:57:05,564

of building something or, or, um.

 

1312

00:57:06,435 --> 00:57:09,405

At least, uh, or maybe work even

just working with your hands.

 

1313

00:57:09,405 --> 00:57:12,555

Yeah, something in that, something about

building or, or designing something.

 

1314

00:57:12,765 --> 00:57:14,985

Marc Preston: It could be almost

like meditative because you're Yes.

 

1315

00:57:14,985 --> 00:57:17,055

Kind of in your own head,

but yet you're doing a thing.

 

1316

00:57:17,055 --> 00:57:17,805

It, I'm almost at

 

1317

00:57:17,805 --> 00:57:19,965

Asher Grodman: the point that I would

volunteer to help someone put together

 

1318

00:57:19,965 --> 00:57:25,425

IKEA furniture because it is then I'm

not actually going to, but I could

 

1319

00:57:25,455 --> 00:57:27,975

imagine myself doing, I'm like, oh,

I'm having a, having a rough week.

 

1320

00:57:27,975 --> 00:57:29,895

Lemme come over and build a chair for you.

 

1321

00:57:30,255 --> 00:57:31,965

Marc Preston: You're just there

for the Swedish meatballs.

 

1322

00:57:31,965 --> 00:57:32,750

Yeah, that's right.

 

1323

00:57:33,045 --> 00:57:36,315

That's, um, now the last question I

got for you is, if you were to jump

 

1324

00:57:36,315 --> 00:57:40,815

into that DeLorean and you can go back,

you connect with 16-year-old you and

 

1325

00:57:40,815 --> 00:57:43,755

you got a piece of advice to either

make that moment in your life better

 

1326

00:57:43,815 --> 00:57:47,085

or to put yourself on a little bit

different trajectory, what would that

 

1327

00:57:47,085 --> 00:57:49,755

piece of advice be to 16-year-old you?

 

1328

00:57:51,285 --> 00:57:51,795

That's so

 

1329

00:57:51,795 --> 00:57:52,425

Asher Grodman: hard.

 

1330

00:57:52,905 --> 00:57:57,915

You know, I, what, what I wish I could do,

and I actually do think about this a lot.

 

1331

00:57:58,305 --> 00:58:04,875

What I wish I could do would be, not to

like give them advice necessarily, but to.

 

1332

00:58:05,895 --> 00:58:08,549

I, I wish there were, I wish

there was a way to like transfer

 

1333

00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:12,210

the way I feel in my body now

 

1334

00:58:14,790 --> 00:58:18,960

to them, like to give them the,

the experience of like, oh, this

 

1335

00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,290

is what it's like to kind of just

like be at ease with yourself.

 

1336

00:58:22,290 --> 00:58:22,350

Yeah.

 

1337

00:58:22,350 --> 00:58:23,580

Not that I'm always at ease myself.

 

1338

00:58:23,580 --> 00:58:27,330

I'm usually running around like with a

chicken head cut off, but I'm so much

 

1339

00:58:27,330 --> 00:58:31,049

more at ease than I was back then.

 

1340

00:58:31,170 --> 00:58:39,810

And I think finding that, uh, that kind

of quiet and calm, if I could impart

 

1341

00:58:39,810 --> 00:58:41,279

something, it's not really advice.

 

1342

00:58:41,279 --> 00:58:43,350

It's kind of more, I guess

more of an experience, but

 

1343

00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,770

Marc Preston: something, a gift you wanna

give to your younger self, kind of Yeah.

 

1344

00:58:46,770 --> 00:58:47,069

You know?

 

1345

00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:47,580

Yeah.

 

1346

00:58:47,580 --> 00:58:48,930

That I, I completely understand that.

 

1347

00:58:48,930 --> 00:58:51,720

I think there is a,

when you look back, uh.

 

1348

00:58:52,195 --> 00:58:55,140

I, I, I, you know, if somebody gave

me the option and said, you know,

 

1349

00:58:55,140 --> 00:58:59,670

said, you can relive your late teens

or your, or your early twenties, I'd

 

1350

00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:02,490

be like, the only way I'm gonna do is

if I go back with the knowledge I've

 

1351

00:59:02,490 --> 00:59:06,210

gotten now because I have no desire to

go through, you know, it's, oh my God.

 

1352

00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:06,420

Yeah.

 

1353

00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:12,390

There, you know, the things that,

uh, I mean the, the being better

 

1354

00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:15,600

at making choices, I think, you

know, happens with age, you know?

 

1355

00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:15,810

Yeah.

 

1356

00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,350

Um,

 

1357

00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:22,710

Asher Grodman: caring about yourself,

like your capital S self happens with age.

 

1358

00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:22,800

Mm-hmm.

 

1359

00:59:24,195 --> 00:59:24,715

Marc Preston: I guess indeed.

 

1360

00:59:24,785 --> 00:59:25,515

Abso absolutely.

 

1361

00:59:25,515 --> 00:59:29,220

And I, I think it's, uh, you

know, it's something that.

 

1362

00:59:30,345 --> 00:59:33,884

As we mature, we appreciate, you

know, putting that investment

 

1363

00:59:33,884 --> 00:59:35,055

in ourselves even more.

 

1364

00:59:35,055 --> 00:59:37,904

So, you know, my friend,

I, I really appreciate it.

 

1365

00:59:37,904 --> 00:59:41,595

Looking forward to getting further

into the, uh, library that is ghosts.

 

1366

00:59:41,654 --> 00:59:44,895

Um, you know, just a little side,

just a little side note, a little

 

1367

00:59:44,895 --> 00:59:46,365

ancillary source of income.

 

1368

00:59:46,395 --> 00:59:48,495

Uh, have you ever contemplated

a sponsorship with an

 

1369

00:59:48,495 --> 00:59:49,875

underwear, a boxer company?

 

1370

00:59:49,875 --> 00:59:52,334

You know, I think that

would be a natural thing.

 

1371

00:59:52,334 --> 00:59:54,044

You know, it just kind of a, you know,

 

1372

00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,035

Asher Grodman: I did, I do wear, I wear

sacks underwear on the show, and when

 

1373

00:59:58,035 --> 01:00:01,095

they found out they sent me some free

underwear and they're pretty great.

 

1374

01:00:01,095 --> 01:00:03,165

So I, I'll I'll give them

a shout out right now.

 

1375

01:00:03,555 --> 01:00:06,464

Um, but yes, that's a very good,

yeah, I, I'm gonna think about that.

 

1376

01:00:07,035 --> 01:00:10,125

Marc Preston: Just I'm, I, I'm just

always full of ideas when people say full

 

1377

01:00:10,125 --> 01:00:11,384

of it, I, I hope that's what they mean.

 

1378

01:00:11,745 --> 01:00:15,555

Um, but my friend, you have yourself

a, a great rest of your week, a great

 

1379

01:00:15,555 --> 01:00:17,640

Passover, uh, just, you know, thank you.

 

1380

01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:18,080

Same to you.

 

1381

01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:21,435

Uh, but, uh, but my friend, uh, it

was more than a pleasure and, uh,

 

1382

01:00:21,435 --> 01:00:24,194

hopefully down the line we'll have

an opportunity to, uh, catch up.

 

1383

01:00:24,375 --> 01:00:25,095

Asher Grodman: I'd love that.

 

1384

01:00:25,095 --> 01:00:25,725

Thank you so.

 

1385

01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:29,580

Talk to you soon.

 

1386

01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:32,070

Marc Preston: Alright.

 

1387

01:00:32,070 --> 01:00:32,670

There you go.

 

1388

01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:34,170

Asher Groman.

 

1389

01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:37,440

The show on CBS is called ghosts.

 

1390

01:00:37,530 --> 01:00:39,360

Remember he doesn't have pants on.

 

1391

01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:40,170

Hard to miss.

 

1392

01:00:40,170 --> 01:00:41,640

Asher a funny guy.

 

1393

01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,000

Really enjoyed the sit down with him

and, uh, really enjoyed the opportunity

 

1394

01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,560

to hang out with you for a little bit.

 

1395

01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:51,930

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1396

01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,600

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1397

01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:57,480

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1398

01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,860

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1399

01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,050

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1403

01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,330

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01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:16,800

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1405

01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,020

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1406

01:01:19,290 --> 01:01:22,860

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1407

01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,740

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1408

01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:28,170

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1409

01:01:28,375 --> 01:01:30,654

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1410

01:01:30,805 --> 01:01:32,935

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01:01:36,985 --> 01:01:38,095

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1413

01:01:38,095 --> 01:01:41,875

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1414

01:01:41,875 --> 01:01:42,865

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1415

01:01:43,105 --> 01:01:46,315

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1416

01:01:46,525 --> 01:01:50,185

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1417

01:01:50,185 --> 01:01:51,595

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1418

01:01:51,595 --> 01:01:54,235

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1419

01:01:54,235 --> 01:01:55,165

Good stuff to come.

 

1420

01:01:55,464 --> 01:01:57,174

Uh, I'm gonna get on outta here you go.

 

1421

01:01:57,174 --> 01:02:00,775

Have yourself a wonderful,

uh, weekend or, you know.

 

1422

01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:03,690

Week, whenever you are

catching this episode.

 

1423

01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:09,000

And as always, thank you so much for

making, uh, what I got going on here,

 

1424

01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,590

part of whatever you've got going on, it

does mean a lot to me, so thanks so much.

 

1425

01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:17,549

So we'll catch you next week for another

sit down and a great conversation

 

1426

01:02:17,759 --> 01:02:19,860

right here on Story and Craft.

 

1427

01:02:19,950 --> 01:02:22,680

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1428

01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:25,170

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1429

01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:29,580

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1430

01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,049

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1431

01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,140

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1432

01:02:34,155 --> 01:02:37,575

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1433

01:02:37,905 --> 01:02:41,445

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1439

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1440

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