Sept. 13, 2022

Andrew Zimmern | Ambassador of Culinary Connections

Andrew Zimmern | Ambassador of Culinary Connections
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Andrew Zimmern | Ambassador of Culinary Connections

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with James Beard and Emmy award-winning television host, chef, and world traveler, Andrew Zimmern.  We know Andrew from his work on Food Network, Cooking Channel, Travel Channel and MSNBC shows, Bizarre Foods, The Zimmern List and What’s Eating America. Listen in as we cover the expanse of his career, his early struggles, and his friendly rivalry with Anthony Bourdain. Andrew shares his insights on creating something special in both his personal and professional life, while also taking us on a journey through his much-loved shows and his fascinating travels around the world. We also explore the rich tapestry of Andrew's family traditions and cultural experiences. From his son's upbringing to his experience with the Sakalava tribe in Africa, his stories are both engaging and insightful. We even get a glimpse of his new show “Family Dinner” on the Magnolia Network, Discovery+ and Max, and Marc’s quest to recreate his grandmother's kugel recipe. The conversation takes another interesting turn as we discuss the transformative power of travel and the influences it has had on Andrew's life and career. From his privileged upbringing in Manhattan to his journey to homelessness, addiction, and ultimately sobriety, Andrew's story is truly compelling. Finally, we reflect on the tragic death of Anthony Bourdain, discuss the unique culinary delights of New Orleans, and chat about Andrew's new show on the Outdoor Channel, “Wild Game Kitchen”. Tune in for a delicious and insightful conversation with Andrew Zimmern!SHOW HIGHLIGHTS0:07:39 - Celebrating Family Through Food0:13:17 - Learning, Transformation, and Travel Experiences0:21:32 - Exploring Portland, Maine With Andrew’s Dad0:24:08 - Finding Passion in the Culinary World0:30:41 - Storytelling and Cultural Exploration0:31:51 - The Responsibility of the Camera Person0:41:29 - Reflecting on Anthony Bourdain's Death0:48:49 - New Orleans Food and Dining Discussion1:08:59 - Alternative Career Paths and Public Office1:13:07 - Decline of Jewish Delis in AmericaListen and subscribe on your favorite podcast app.  Also, check out the show and sign up for the newsletter at  www.storyandcraftpod.com...#podcast #interview #AndrewZimmern #Chef #Travel #BizarreFoods #TheZimmernList #WhatsEatingAmerica #FamilyDinner #WildGameKitchen #IronChef #Netflix #NetflixUS #HGTV #TravelChannel #FoodNetwork #CookingChannel #MSNBC #MagnoliaNetwork #UnitedNations #UN #AnthonyBourdain #JamesBeard #Emmy #acting #actorslife #storyandcraft #voiceover #voiceactor #volife

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Andrew Zimmern:

This is, this is what's so great about life.

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Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to

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Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?

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Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I

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Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.

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Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&O's.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next

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Andrew Zimmern: door.

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Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next

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Andrew Zimmern: door.

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Announcer: Welcome to story and craft.

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Announcer: Now.

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Announcer: There's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: Hey, how you doing?

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Marc Preston: Welcome back another episode of story and

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Marc Preston: Craft.

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Marc Preston: Hey, if this is your first episode, welcome.

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Marc Preston: My name is Marc Preston and today a Great

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Marc Preston: episode with a very intriguing guy.

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Marc Preston: He is a chef.

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Marc Preston: He is a James Beard and Emmy award-winning

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Marc Preston: television host.

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Marc Preston: He's a world traveler.

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Marc Preston: You've seen him in bizarre foods the

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Marc Preston: Zimmern list what's eating America?

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Marc Preston: Andrew Zimmern is our guest today.

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Marc Preston: Really great chat.

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Marc Preston: We cover a lot of ground about his career,

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Marc Preston: his early life.

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Marc Preston: He has a great story about kind of

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Marc Preston: overcoming some adversity and finding a way

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Marc Preston: to create something really special In his

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Marc Preston: personal and professional life.

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Marc Preston: Always love those good stories.

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Marc Preston: Now, of course, we also chatted a little

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Marc Preston: bit about Anthony Bourdain, his

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Marc Preston: friendly Competition he had with Anthony.

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Marc Preston: Of course, if you listen to the show, you

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Marc Preston: know loves him, anthony Bourdain.

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Marc Preston: It's gonna be a great episode with Andrew.

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Marc Preston: If you are hungry, I suggest getting a

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Marc Preston: snack.

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Marc Preston: I did this show without having a bite to

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Marc Preston: was done Just talked a lot about food.

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Marc Preston: Now don't forget if you would please

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Marc Preston: So make sure to do that and leave a little

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Marc Preston: All right, let's get after it.

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Marc Preston: Today it is Andrew Zimmern Day, right here

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Marc Preston: on story and craft.

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Marc Preston: What are we eating today?

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Marc Preston: It's a grilled cheese sandwich.

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Marc Preston: It's always.

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Marc Preston: It's always the, the comfort foods or

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Marc Preston: whatever it.

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Marc Preston: Whatever have you?

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Andrew Zimmern: nothing that I like better, and I eat it at

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Andrew Zimmern: work so I can hide my shame from my family.

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Marc Preston: I Work from home, so it's kind of like I

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Marc Preston: have a hard time doing that, although I'm

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Marc Preston: very proud of myself.

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Marc Preston: I was in Jamaica with my kids a few weeks

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Marc Preston: ago and I I don't know how I forgot I have

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Marc Preston: bought a bag of that Blue Mountain coffee.

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Marc Preston: It was in my pants, in my pantry, I was

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Marc Preston: like I've been making my regular coffee.

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Marc Preston: It's like, wait a minute, there's you ever

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Marc Preston: have one of those days like, oh, today's

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Marc Preston: gonna be A good day.

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Marc Preston: I found the good coffee.

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Marc Preston: Yes, I'm all proud of myself here.

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Marc Preston: So you're, are you in the Twin Cities right

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Marc Preston: now?

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Marc Preston: Are you in New York?

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Marc Preston: Sure, am, no, I'm in the Twin Cities.

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Marc Preston: How often are you in Minnesota?

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, it depends.

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Andrew Zimmern: As bad as a hundred days a year, as good as

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Andrew Zimmern: most of the year.

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Marc Preston: I tell you it's so funny.

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Marc Preston: If it wasn't for you now, I've had friends

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Marc Preston: that lived in Minneapolis I know he lived

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Marc Preston: in St Paul I would have never learned about

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Marc Preston: Ludifisk, or Was it hot dish?

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Marc Preston: I would never known about these culinary

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Marc Preston: Treasures of Minnesota one awful, one awful

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Marc Preston: and one superb one of the things I was

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Marc Preston: admired is is how somebody can travel as

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Marc Preston: much as you do and Maintain a sense of

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Marc Preston: sanity.

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Marc Preston: I love traveling, but after about a week

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Marc Preston: I'm like you know, I'm kind of looking for

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Marc Preston: my own bed here after after a while.

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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, big time, big time real quick.

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Marc Preston: Just gonna touch on a little origin story

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Marc Preston: kind of the inception when you started

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Marc Preston: working with the Scripps Networks, the Was

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Marc Preston: it travel channel or was it food network

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Marc Preston: that you first kind of debuted your show on

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Marc Preston: travel channel.

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Andrew Zimmern: And yeah, it was, it was Scripps.

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Andrew Zimmern: And what was discovery?

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Andrew Zimmern: Then it was when I don't know its own, then

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Andrew Zimmern: it was Cox, then it was Back to discovery

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Andrew Zimmern: again.

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Andrew Zimmern: So I've been one way or another Taking a

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Andrew Zimmern: check from the same people for a long time.

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Marc Preston: I've had I've had shows on food network,

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Marc Preston: but it's mainly travel channel what I'm

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Marc Preston: fascinated by is by how, depending on the

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Marc Preston: era, where we may see any name, any one of

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Marc Preston: your shows, maybe on food or maybe on like

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Marc Preston: Magnolia, now you know so.

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Marc Preston: But but the thing is that this shows are

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Marc Preston: out there and I think you do such a

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Marc Preston: wonderful job and of course that's just not

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Marc Preston: kissing up right now More than kind of any

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Marc Preston: other time, at least in American culture.

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Marc Preston: I think having those shows, that kind of

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Marc Preston: show you were more alike than Than

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Marc Preston: different, I think, are kind of important

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Marc Preston: in my mind more important than ever.

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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know, I don't know how many minds

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Andrew Zimmern: were changing.

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Andrew Zimmern: I hope it's many, but yeah, it's, it's

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Andrew Zimmern: really important for, I think, for everyone

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Andrew Zimmern: to see you have a son, correct?

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Marc Preston: I do?

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Marc Preston: You just have the one son.

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Marc Preston: How old is he now?

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Marc Preston: I'm gonna ballpark.

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Marc Preston: Seventeen and a half anybody it's listening

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Marc Preston: to this nose is like, of course I'm a fan,

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Marc Preston: you know.

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Marc Preston: I remember one episode.

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Marc Preston: I think you're in Africa, I Think it was

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Marc Preston: Africa.

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Marc Preston: You, your wife, was on on the trip with you

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Marc Preston: and I remember there was a rite of passage

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Marc Preston: for a young child and I remember you were

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Marc Preston: tearing up a little bit because it was

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Marc Preston: correlating between his breasts or is it's

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Marc Preston: kind of?

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Andrew Zimmern: I think there was some kind of a ritual you

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Andrew Zimmern: were.

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Andrew Zimmern: It was a little circumcision, the the the

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Andrew Zimmern: difficulty for me was that it was done when

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Andrew Zimmern: the young boy was five, which is different

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Andrew Zimmern: than several days old.

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Andrew Zimmern: As is typical here in this country.

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Andrew Zimmern: But, but more importantly, the, the plan

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Andrew Zimmern: was for the most honored guest to Consume

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Andrew Zimmern: the foreskin.

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Andrew Zimmern: Now, this is typically in the Sakalava

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Andrew Zimmern: tribe, believed to be the paternal was the

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Andrew Zimmern: grandfather?

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Marc Preston: wasn't the grandfather's best father?

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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and he Act, we.

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Andrew Zimmern: You know he wanted to Step aside and allow

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Andrew Zimmern: me because he felt I was.

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Andrew Zimmern: I had been in the village with them for

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Andrew Zimmern: five or six days and he wanted me to take

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Andrew Zimmern: his place.

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Andrew Zimmern: And I was extremely nervous as the because

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Andrew Zimmern: that, as this Circumcision is going on, I

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Andrew Zimmern: know that in a matter of minutes I'm

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Andrew Zimmern: consuming human foreskin and you know it's,

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Andrew Zimmern: it's sitting there.

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Andrew Zimmern: So many thoughts are going through my mind.

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Andrew Zimmern: I want to be a good guest, but is this a

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Andrew Zimmern: bridge too far, as they say?

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Andrew Zimmern: And At the moment I, you know, I got up.

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Andrew Zimmern: The maternal grandfather insulted that he

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Andrew Zimmern: was relegated to third banana instead of

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Andrew Zimmern: second banana because he believed if

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Andrew Zimmern: paternal grandfather issues said foreskin,

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Andrew Zimmern: he should, and and he grabs it out of

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Andrew Zimmern: someone's hand and throws it in his mouth

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Andrew Zimmern: and like so there and and stomps out.

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Andrew Zimmern: And that was it.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, I remember something went, went not

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Marc Preston: as planned, not to plan, but I thought it

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Marc Preston: was so endearing because I think I think in

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Marc Preston: your VO on it you were.

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Marc Preston: You were correlating or maybe you were

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Marc Preston: discussing it with your wife, I forgot but

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Marc Preston: you were correlating the experience you

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Marc Preston: were having with your son, who was very

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Marc Preston: young at the time, and you were, and I can

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Marc Preston: only imagine like a moments like that

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Marc Preston: you're traveling and you know you're away

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Marc Preston: just from my own personal experience, I

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Marc Preston: know after a while that kind of wears on

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Marc Preston: you.

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Marc Preston: You know, whenever you see somebody else's

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Marc Preston: kid, you know they're interacting with her

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Marc Preston: kids you miss your own kid.

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Marc Preston: Oh, of course maybe not, maybe not

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Marc Preston: interacting with the foreskin as much, but

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Marc Preston: you know.

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Andrew Zimmern: Correct it is.

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Andrew Zimmern: It is a constant reminder that you're gone,

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Andrew Zimmern: you know, and it's in then.

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Andrew Zimmern: The flip side is that you know now, with

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Andrew Zimmern: family dinner, with Wild Game Kitchen that

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Andrew Zimmern: premieres in just a couple of weeks on

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Andrew Zimmern: outdoor channel, with Iron Chef on Netflix,

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Andrew Zimmern: my I miss and and react to different things

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Andrew Zimmern: learning something.

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Andrew Zimmern: Now, I learned something new every day, so

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Marc Preston: experiences, but I certainly think that

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Marc Preston: when you, when things really you know, you

455

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Marc Preston: feel like you have your hands off the

456

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Marc Preston: steering wheel and whatever evolves in your

457

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Marc Preston: life, you can empathize with other people

458

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Marc Preston: much easier.

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Marc Preston: Is that accurate in your experience?

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Andrew Zimmern: I actually think it's an understatement.

461

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Andrew Zimmern: I think you know and Joseph Campbell wrote

462

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Andrew Zimmern: about this in the hero's journey.

463

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, a lot of people have, and I'm no

464

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Andrew Zimmern: hero, I am it, you know.

465

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Andrew Zimmern: But you know Campbell's theory, and I think

466

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Andrew Zimmern: it's true and has been widely accepted.

467

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Andrew Zimmern: Now, as when you've been through the fire,

468

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Andrew Zimmern: you know, when you have had the Phoenix

469

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Andrew Zimmern: experience and coming back from tragedy and

470

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Andrew Zimmern: rising from ashes, If you survive, you have

471

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Andrew Zimmern: a skill set that other people don't have.

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Andrew Zimmern: It's pure and simple, and I've had this,

473

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Andrew Zimmern: you know.

474

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Andrew Zimmern: I've studied this now, for you know,

475

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Andrew Zimmern: anecdotally, for 30 some odd years, and it

476

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Andrew Zimmern: is, it's universally true.

477

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Andrew Zimmern: And I think, for you know, some people have

478

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Andrew Zimmern: to go through what I did.

479

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Andrew Zimmern: That was a pretty low bottom.

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Andrew Zimmern: Other people don't need to have as low a

481

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Andrew Zimmern: bottom, but it is a transformative

482

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Andrew Zimmern: experience and if it doesn't make you more

483

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Andrew Zimmern: I'll just use your words empathetic with

484

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Andrew Zimmern: the human condition around the world, more

485

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Andrew Zimmern: in tune with the trials and tribulations of

486

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Andrew Zimmern: your fellow man, I think you've wasted

487

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Andrew Zimmern: life's greatest lesson.

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Marc Preston: Now, you had all those experiences, but

489

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Marc Preston: travel was something you were doing even

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Marc Preston: when you were younger.

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Marc Preston: I seem to remember an episode of your

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Marc Preston: father.

493

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Marc Preston: He went somewhere in France, or it could

494

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Marc Preston: have been in Spain.

495

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Marc Preston: It was somewhere and, you see, your father

496

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Marc Preston: would had taken you there when you were

497

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Marc Preston: younger and, and I believe you'd even

498

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Marc Preston: brought him back, if I'm not mistaken on my

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Marc Preston: memory.

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Andrew Zimmern: you're correct that, no, no, no, you're

501

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Andrew Zimmern: absolutely correct and you know I

502

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Andrew Zimmern: referenced this a lot.

503

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Andrew Zimmern: I was lucky enough to travel around the

504

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Andrew Zimmern: world several times with my dad.

505

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Andrew Zimmern: He was one of the people responsible for

506

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Andrew Zimmern: running an international you know

507

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Andrew Zimmern: advertising agency and we traveled a lot

508

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Andrew Zimmern: and he loved to travel, to eat and eat to

509

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Andrew Zimmern: travel.

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Andrew Zimmern: So even when we weren't working although I

511

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Andrew Zimmern: went on a lot of work trips with him, it

512

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Andrew Zimmern: was, you know we also went on a lot of fun

513

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Andrew Zimmern: trips as well.

514

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Andrew Zimmern: Every year we love to ski, so we would go

515

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Andrew Zimmern: every year to Europe, ski somewhere for a

516

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Andrew Zimmern: week or 10 days, then go visit a city for

517

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Andrew Zimmern: four or five days.

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Andrew Zimmern: So, and yes, very famously, as a five year

519

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Andrew Zimmern: old, I've sat in you know the place for all

520

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Andrew Zimmern: the seafood trading where the boats came in

521

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Andrew Zimmern: in Paris, on the river, you know, picking

522

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Andrew Zimmern: big or no and drinking pasties.

523

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Andrew Zimmern: At eight or nine years old, while my dad

524

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Andrew Zimmern: was doing a, having a business dinner three

525

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Andrew Zimmern: tables over, reading my book and not

526

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Andrew Zimmern: understanding why I was so flushed and

527

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Andrew Zimmern: giddy, I sat with him in a humble taverna

528

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Andrew Zimmern: outside of Valladolos Cayetos in Spain

529

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Andrew Zimmern: where, ironically, franco is buried now,

530

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Andrew Zimmern: but this restaurant under the Roman

531

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Andrew Zimmern: Aqueduct there, and you know, they walk up

532

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Andrew Zimmern: to you and they basically ask you lamb or

533

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Andrew Zimmern: pig, and you pick one and then all the

534

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Andrew Zimmern: other courses come before it, but at the

535

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Andrew Zimmern: end out comes a newborn lamb or pig, piglet

536

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Andrew Zimmern: and cooked, and you eat the whole thing.

537

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Andrew Zimmern: That's your portion is this small roasted

538

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Andrew Zimmern: animal.

539

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Andrew Zimmern: And what preceded it were Angulas, these

540

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Andrew Zimmern: tiny little Elvers, baby eels that swim

541

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Andrew Zimmern: from the Sargasso Sea up into the rivers

542

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Andrew Zimmern: where they will grow and become very large

543

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Andrew Zimmern: freshwater eels.

544

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Andrew Zimmern: And you know, this was the experience of my

545

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Andrew Zimmern: childhood.

546

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Andrew Zimmern: My father gave that to me on trip after

547

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Andrew Zimmern: trip after trip after trip.

548

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Andrew Zimmern: So it's no wonder why I eventually got into

549

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Andrew Zimmern: doing what I do, because I'm just a paler

550

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Andrew Zimmern: version of him.

551

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Andrew Zimmern: And yes, you are.

552

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Andrew Zimmern: You are also correct, we at one point.

553

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, when you start in television you

554

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Andrew Zimmern: don't call any shots at all, you just say

555

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Andrew Zimmern: yes to everything and show up, and then, if

556

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Andrew Zimmern: the show is successful, it all kind of

557

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Andrew Zimmern: flips around, everyone's asking you, and I

558

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Andrew Zimmern: think it was season two or three.

559

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Andrew Zimmern: I told the producers we're going to do a

560

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Andrew Zimmern: show in Portland, maine, and we're going to

561

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Andrew Zimmern: do it with my dad and let him show me his

562

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Andrew Zimmern: town that he was living in at the at the

563

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Andrew Zimmern: time and what was that we're from?

564

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Andrew Zimmern: or that's where he, no he spent the last 12

565

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Andrew Zimmern: years of his life there.

566

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Andrew Zimmern: He wanted to move.

567

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Andrew Zimmern: He was born in Bred, new York City in the

568

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Andrew Zimmern: late 40s, got a house out in Long Island so

569

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Andrew Zimmern: he had a summer place out there and then it

570

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Andrew Zimmern: just became too crowded for him.

571

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Andrew Zimmern: So in his 70s, you know, he and his partner

572

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Andrew Zimmern: moved up to Portland, maine, and lived

573

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Andrew Zimmern: there for 10, 12 years before both of them

574

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Andrew Zimmern: passed.

575

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Andrew Zimmern: And it was an amazing time to actually have

576

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Andrew Zimmern: a show where I got to shoot with him.

577

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Andrew Zimmern: And at the very end we're at this big party

578

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Andrew Zimmern: tasting a whole bunch of local strange

579

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Andrew Zimmern: things that we shot on.

580

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Andrew Zimmern: A friend of his friend of his has an island

581

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Andrew Zimmern: there.

582

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Andrew Zimmern: It sounds very bougie, but you know they're

583

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Andrew Zimmern: in Maine.

584

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Andrew Zimmern: There's a lot of little tiny islands and

585

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Andrew Zimmern: they're passed from family to family.

586

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Andrew Zimmern: And he knew someone who had a small humble

587

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Andrew Zimmern: place in the Bay and we shot there and I

588

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Andrew Zimmern: got my son in the show.

589

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Andrew Zimmern: So at one point my son, my father and I are

590

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Andrew Zimmern: all eating and I remember that vividly

591

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Andrew Zimmern: because I mean, if I got hit by a bus

592

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Andrew Zimmern: tomorrow, I've immortalized the three of us

593

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Andrew Zimmern: together chowing down.

594

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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm pretty happy with that.

595

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Marc Preston: You know, it kind of brings it back to what

596

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Marc Preston: you were saying about your Magnolia Channel

597

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Marc Preston: show.

598

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Marc Preston: It's it's like you can do all these really

599

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Marc Preston: wonderful, sometimes extravagant, or really

600

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Marc Preston: amazing, amazing opportunities.

601

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Marc Preston: But what re in my, my youngest daughter

602

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Marc Preston: gets so mad at me because I'm always taking

603

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Marc Preston: pictures like daddy, really, please, just

604

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Marc Preston: the one teenager on earth that doesn't post

605

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Marc Preston: to Instagram.

606

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Marc Preston: But anyway, the I'm like, I'm like I want

607

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Marc Preston: this.

608

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Marc Preston: You know, this is important to me.

609

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Marc Preston: You know we were on a cruise a few weeks

610

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Marc Preston: ago.

611

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Marc Preston: She gave me a little more latitude.

612

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Marc Preston: I was allowed to take more pictures, you

613

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Marc Preston: know.

614

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Marc Preston: But you know, getting the multi generation,

615

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Marc Preston: the family, together there.

616

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Marc Preston: Were you noticing that your son was into it,

617

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Marc Preston: or is he kind of like, oh God, here's dad

618

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Marc Preston: doing his?

619

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Andrew Zimmern: thing again.

620

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Andrew Zimmern: Three.

621

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, he was like three or four.

622

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Andrew Zimmern: He loved being in the show when he was

623

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Andrew Zimmern: little and I think if we tried today he

624

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Andrew Zimmern: would.

625

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Andrew Zimmern: He would not be.

626

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Andrew Zimmern: I said he's 1717.

627

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Marc Preston: So I got one of those.

628

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Marc Preston: Also just started his freshman year at

629

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Marc Preston: Loyola when you were kind of coming around

630

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Marc Preston: and and you're in Minnesota, you're hitting

631

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Marc Preston: the reset button.

632

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Marc Preston: What pulled you into the culinary world?

633

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Marc Preston: What?

634

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Marc Preston: What was the genesis of?

635

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Marc Preston: I mean, was that even your original plan

636

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Marc Preston: when you're going to college?

637

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, it had been.

638

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, I went to college because my

639

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Andrew Zimmern: father said, well, I'll back up.

640

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Andrew Zimmern: When I was four, I cooked with my

641

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Andrew Zimmern: grandmother as a young child, with my mom

642

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Andrew Zimmern: and dad as an older child, and I had an

643

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Andrew Zimmern: aptitude for it and, you know, my dad

644

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Andrew Zimmern: taught me what to do.

645

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Andrew Zimmern: You know that no one called it foraging you.

646

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Andrew Zimmern: Just, you know it was the 60s.

647

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Andrew Zimmern: You know you threw a line in the water and

648

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Andrew Zimmern: caught a striped bass.

649

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Andrew Zimmern: You went down to the jetty and pulled

650

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Andrew Zimmern: muscles.

651

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Andrew Zimmern: You, you raked clams on a cloudy morning.

652

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, we, we, I mean, this was what we

653

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Andrew Zimmern: did in the summertime.

654

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Andrew Zimmern: And so I learned how to do and loved food,

655

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Andrew Zimmern: so that when my father said, you know, when

656

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Andrew Zimmern: the spring were preceding my 14th birthday,

657

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Andrew Zimmern: which is in the summer, he said I hope, you

658

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Andrew Zimmern: know, there's no more allowance.

659

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Andrew Zimmern: You know what are you going to do for a

660

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Andrew Zimmern: summer job?

661

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Andrew Zimmern: And I said work in restaurants.

662

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Andrew Zimmern: I knew right away what I wanted to do and

663

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Andrew Zimmern: all my other friends were working at the

664

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Andrew Zimmern: landscape company or at the gas station or

665

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Andrew Zimmern: at the superMarcet, and I worked in

666

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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants.

667

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Andrew Zimmern: And we were lucky.

668

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Andrew Zimmern: We had a friend who owned a seafood

669

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Andrew Zimmern: restaurant who was willing to hire me and

670

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Andrew Zimmern: that's where I went.

671

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Andrew Zimmern: It was called the quiet clam on Montauk

672

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Andrew Zimmern: Highway, just as you entered the village of

673

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Andrew Zimmern: East Hampton and I worked there summers in

674

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Andrew Zimmern: high school and begged my parents to work

675

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Andrew Zimmern: odd nights during the school year in New

676

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Andrew Zimmern: York to be in restaurants and they let me

677

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Andrew Zimmern: do that.

678

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Andrew Zimmern: And so the dye was I knew when I was six

679

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Andrew Zimmern: years old I wanted to work in food.

680

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, that was accepted by my family.

681

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Marc Preston: But how lucky, how lucky are you, though,

682

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Marc Preston: that that because I had the similar

683

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Marc Preston: experience.

684

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Marc Preston: I remember going I want to do this thing.

685

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Marc Preston: For me it was radio or acting or you know,

686

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Marc Preston: but I knew every time I tried to push and

687

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Marc Preston: go some other direction.

688

00:26:12,852 --> 00:26:14,280

Marc Preston: I went to a really good high school and

689

00:26:14,521 --> 00:26:15,185

Marc Preston: maybe medicine.

690

00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:15,989

Marc Preston: You know Jewish play.

691

00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:18,118

Marc Preston: You know be a good shot, be a Jewish doctor.

692

00:26:18,138 --> 00:26:20,563

Marc Preston: You know, I was like it just didn't light

693

00:26:20,604 --> 00:26:21,085

Marc Preston: my fire.

694

00:26:21,365 --> 00:26:23,879

Marc Preston: I just knew and I think I consider anybody

695

00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:26,084

Marc Preston: that's got that it can be a bumpy road, but

696

00:26:26,164 --> 00:26:26,706

Marc Preston: it's it's.

697

00:26:26,967 --> 00:26:29,562

Marc Preston: It's really lucky when you can bring that

698

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Marc Preston: to fruition.

699

00:26:30,575 --> 00:26:32,340

Andrew Zimmern: New, always knew what I wanted to do and

700

00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,766

Andrew Zimmern: you know, my father encouraged it in a

701

00:26:34,826 --> 00:26:38,181

Andrew Zimmern: sense, but he said don't pass up college.

702

00:26:38,602 --> 00:26:40,766

Andrew Zimmern: He said, even if you want to be the, you

703

00:26:40,787 --> 00:26:44,281

Andrew Zimmern: know the own restaurants, or be a chef or

704

00:26:44,301 --> 00:26:46,406

Andrew Zimmern: whatever you want to do, learning to read,

705

00:26:46,466 --> 00:26:48,780

Andrew Zimmern: write and think critically at a higher

706

00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,944

Andrew Zimmern: level is really important.

707

00:26:50,826 --> 00:26:52,672

Andrew Zimmern: And so I went to.

708

00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:55,098

Andrew Zimmern: I went to college and he was right because

709

00:26:55,378 --> 00:26:57,603

Andrew Zimmern: ultimately once I mean I wasted a lot of my

710

00:26:57,643 --> 00:27:03,846

Andrew Zimmern: time in college but ultimately my my

711

00:27:03,967 --> 00:27:09,661

Andrew Zimmern: storytelling capability, my style of

712

00:27:09,741 --> 00:27:12,670

Andrew Zimmern: storytelling, I learned studying art

713

00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:13,994

Andrew Zimmern: history at Vaster College.

714

00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:20,490

Andrew Zimmern: From the first day of art history 101, when

715

00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:23,526

Andrew Zimmern: Dr Susan Koretzki put the first slide up of

716

00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:31,713

Andrew Zimmern: the first class of my freshman year, I

717

00:27:31,814 --> 00:27:34,019

Andrew Zimmern: learned a way of deciphering the world.

718

00:27:36,065 --> 00:27:38,774

Andrew Zimmern: She put up a painting Northern Renaissance,

719

00:27:40,228 --> 00:27:42,595

Andrew Zimmern: late 16th century and she asked everyone in

720

00:27:42,615 --> 00:27:44,410

Andrew Zimmern: the class to write down what they saw in

721

00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:45,868

Andrew Zimmern: the painting and what it meant.

722

00:27:46,405 --> 00:27:48,812

Andrew Zimmern: And everyone wrote down chair, table, dog,

723

00:27:49,173 --> 00:27:54,294

Andrew Zimmern: bowl of fruit, window, hat, scarf, dress,

724

00:27:54,795 --> 00:27:55,237

Andrew Zimmern: necklace.

725

00:27:56,729 --> 00:27:58,173

Andrew Zimmern: And then she asked for everyone to read

726

00:27:58,194 --> 00:27:59,127

Andrew Zimmern: their list, three or four.

727

00:27:59,287 --> 00:28:01,247

Andrew Zimmern: Everyone had the same thing and you could

728

00:28:01,307 --> 00:28:02,492

Andrew Zimmern: tell halfway through.

729

00:28:02,565 --> 00:28:06,154

Andrew Zimmern: This was her class one slide, one setup for

730

00:28:06,174 --> 00:28:06,415

Andrew Zimmern: the year.

731

00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:10,614

Andrew Zimmern: And she then stepped back and spent a half

732

00:28:10,634 --> 00:28:14,254

Andrew Zimmern: an hour telling us everything about late to

733

00:28:14,454 --> 00:28:17,292

Andrew Zimmern: 16th century Flemish life there.

734

00:28:17,545 --> 00:28:20,798

Andrew Zimmern: You know, no one had noticed that in the

735

00:28:20,818 --> 00:28:24,050

Andrew Zimmern: fruit bowl was a banana.

736

00:28:24,211 --> 00:28:27,232

Andrew Zimmern: But bananas don't grow in what is now

737

00:28:27,312 --> 00:28:29,790

Andrew Zimmern: Holland, so it had to have come from

738

00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,014

Andrew Zimmern: somewhere else, right?

739

00:28:31,966 --> 00:28:33,873

Andrew Zimmern: And so it indicated the wealth of the

740

00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:34,274

Andrew Zimmern: family.

741

00:28:34,385 --> 00:28:37,147

Andrew Zimmern: And she just went on and on and on Sherlock

742

00:28:37,187 --> 00:28:37,508

Andrew Zimmern: Holmes.

743

00:28:37,528 --> 00:28:38,753

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it was like a locked room.

744

00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:40,692

Marc Preston: I was literally about to say that.

745

00:28:40,732 --> 00:28:40,953

Marc Preston: Yeah.

746

00:28:41,546 --> 00:28:43,949

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know, it's like Hercules Poirot

747

00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:45,052

Andrew Zimmern: couldn't have done a better job.

748

00:28:45,866 --> 00:28:51,106

Andrew Zimmern: And I found myself 45, 40 years later, 40

749

00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:54,476

Andrew Zimmern: years later, no less, 35 years, whatever.

750

00:28:55,447 --> 00:28:56,832

Andrew Zimmern: I'm in a jungle in Nicaragua.

751

00:28:57,445 --> 00:28:59,231

Andrew Zimmern: I'm shooting the second season of Bizarre

752

00:28:59,271 --> 00:29:03,926

Andrew Zimmern: Foods and I'm in a jungle Marcet and

753

00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:08,397

Andrew Zimmern: someone puts a bowl of very rustic chanfina,

754

00:29:08,525 --> 00:29:10,871

Andrew Zimmern: which is a chopped stew made of organ meat,

755

00:29:12,315 --> 00:29:13,097

Andrew Zimmern: in my hands.

756

00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,613

Andrew Zimmern: And we're in a jungle, so I know that it's

757

00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:16,115

Andrew Zimmern: bush meat.

758

00:29:16,245 --> 00:29:18,914

Andrew Zimmern: It's not goat or chicken or whatever.

759

00:29:19,306 --> 00:29:22,635

Andrew Zimmern: It's made with animals that live in the

760

00:29:22,655 --> 00:29:22,976

Andrew Zimmern: forest.

761

00:29:23,706 --> 00:29:27,096

Andrew Zimmern: And these jungle Marcets spring up once a

762

00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,498

Andrew Zimmern: week where vendors are bringing all their

763

00:29:29,518 --> 00:29:32,431

Andrew Zimmern: wares or tribal people convene, and once a

764

00:29:32,471 --> 00:29:33,906

Andrew Zimmern: week or once every two weeks, people can

765

00:29:33,946 --> 00:29:37,745

Andrew Zimmern: trade, exchange news of the day, and

766

00:29:37,766 --> 00:29:40,229

Andrew Zimmern: there's always people cooking so that folks

767

00:29:40,269 --> 00:29:40,891

Andrew Zimmern: can buy food.

768

00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:46,566

Andrew Zimmern: And I started very naturally telling it was

769

00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:48,233

Andrew Zimmern: a real turning point for me in my career.

770

00:29:48,325 --> 00:29:50,252

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, I'm not saying that I sucked the

771

00:29:50,312 --> 00:29:52,670

Andrew Zimmern: first year, but I was nowhere near the

772

00:29:52,730 --> 00:29:56,331

Andrew Zimmern: storyteller I was prior to my experience

773

00:29:56,812 --> 00:29:59,531

Andrew Zimmern: with that bowl of chanfina that I am now.

774

00:30:00,045 --> 00:30:01,792

Marc Preston: Well, of course, if you think you're just

775

00:30:01,852 --> 00:30:03,935

Marc Preston: as good now as you were back then, or you

776

00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:05,827

Marc Preston: haven't grown at all, so now you can

777

00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,473

Marc Preston: actually recognize the growth, that's a

778

00:30:07,493 --> 00:30:07,714

Marc Preston: good thing.

779

00:30:08,426 --> 00:30:11,055

Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and you see, I held up the soup and I

780

00:30:11,095 --> 00:30:12,721

Andrew Zimmern: said if you look at the soup, you can tell

781

00:30:12,822 --> 00:30:14,451

Andrew Zimmern: everything about the people here buy it.

782

00:30:15,346 --> 00:30:21,089

Andrew Zimmern: And I started to do what Dr Koretsky did in

783

00:30:21,571 --> 00:30:24,120

Andrew Zimmern: that art history class long ago, which was

784

00:30:24,180 --> 00:30:26,248

Andrew Zimmern: tell my audience, look into the camera and

785

00:30:26,288 --> 00:30:28,589

Andrew Zimmern: tell them everything about this people and

786

00:30:28,609 --> 00:30:30,927

Andrew Zimmern: this time and this place in this country

787

00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:34,036

Andrew Zimmern: through this bowl of stew.

788

00:30:35,006 --> 00:30:40,270

Andrew Zimmern: And it was a real turning point for me and

789

00:30:40,771 --> 00:30:41,312

Andrew Zimmern: it still is.

790

00:30:41,372 --> 00:30:44,807

Andrew Zimmern: My favorite form of storytelling is being

791

00:30:44,927 --> 00:30:47,855

Andrew Zimmern: able to, even if it's a cheeseburger at a

792

00:30:47,895 --> 00:30:50,872

Andrew Zimmern: local shop, you can tell a lot about a

793

00:30:50,912 --> 00:30:51,915

Andrew Zimmern: place and a culture.

794

00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:54,111

Andrew Zimmern: I have famously said this.

795

00:30:54,788 --> 00:30:55,805

Andrew Zimmern: It's been quoted a lot.

796

00:30:55,946 --> 00:30:59,683

Andrew Zimmern: I love museums, but I can learn more about

797

00:30:59,703 --> 00:31:01,956

Andrew Zimmern: a country by going to a local Marcet and

798

00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,171

Andrew Zimmern: eating and talking to people that I can by

799

00:31:04,212 --> 00:31:05,505

Andrew Zimmern: going into their local museum.

800

00:31:05,625 --> 00:31:06,128

Andrew Zimmern: That's for sure.

801

00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:08,410

Marc Preston: Yeah, one of the things I think you're a

802

00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:11,169

Marc Preston: Jedi knight doing which is, I mean, for

803

00:31:11,189 --> 00:31:13,668

Marc Preston: your vocation is essential is communicating

804

00:31:13,708 --> 00:31:16,195

Marc Preston: the moment, what it's like aesthetically,

805

00:31:16,745 --> 00:31:17,288

Marc Preston: what it tastes like.

806

00:31:18,045 --> 00:31:20,553

Marc Preston: I remember you got the little shelfish, the

807

00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,889

Marc Preston: OPI, I think, kind of like a salty

808

00:31:23,209 --> 00:31:24,353

Marc Preston: something, gummy bear.

809

00:31:24,734 --> 00:31:25,576

Marc Preston: How have you described it?

810

00:31:25,605 --> 00:31:27,011

Marc Preston: I'm like, OK, I get a feeling for what?

811

00:31:27,065 --> 00:31:28,812

Marc Preston: That it's the most random description.

812

00:31:28,865 --> 00:31:31,426

Marc Preston: But I think what you do wonderfully is

813

00:31:32,229 --> 00:31:34,047

Marc Preston: really transport people and I think that

814

00:31:34,107 --> 00:31:35,372

Marc Preston: kind of going back to where you're

815

00:31:35,392 --> 00:31:37,691

Marc Preston: discussing before, is how much is it moving

816

00:31:37,711 --> 00:31:40,169

Marc Preston: the needle culturally on, kind of opening

817

00:31:40,189 --> 00:31:42,195

Marc Preston: people up to other people and ideas?

818

00:31:42,605 --> 00:31:43,550

Marc Preston: I think it certainly helps.

819

00:31:44,267 --> 00:31:46,053

Marc Preston: I think being able to be a very capable

820

00:31:46,153 --> 00:31:48,873

Marc Preston: storyteller is your part and parcel.

821

00:31:48,925 --> 00:31:49,528

Marc Preston: That's what you do.

822

00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:52,312

Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, but a lot of people do.

823

00:31:52,666 --> 00:31:53,791

Andrew Zimmern: This is what's fascinating to me.

824

00:31:54,405 --> 00:31:57,145

Andrew Zimmern: So many other folks forget that there is

825

00:31:57,225 --> 00:32:00,032

Andrew Zimmern: someone on the other side of the camera

826

00:32:00,533 --> 00:32:05,672

Andrew Zimmern: watching six months later and they're not

827

00:32:05,692 --> 00:32:07,645

Andrew Zimmern: going to hear the rain in the distance or

828

00:32:07,766 --> 00:32:13,357

Andrew Zimmern: smell the loamy, earthy, mildewy smell of

829

00:32:13,397 --> 00:32:14,018

Andrew Zimmern: that jungle.

830

00:32:14,525 --> 00:32:16,813

Andrew Zimmern: They're not going to taste the food,

831

00:32:17,285 --> 00:32:19,893

Andrew Zimmern: they're not going to see the smile on every

832

00:32:19,973 --> 00:32:20,895

Andrew Zimmern: person who's in there.

833

00:32:21,325 --> 00:32:25,075

Andrew Zimmern: So you have to, it's your responsibility to

834

00:32:25,155 --> 00:32:26,889

Andrew Zimmern: tell them You're the avatar for the

835

00:32:26,970 --> 00:32:27,251

Andrew Zimmern: audience.

836

00:32:27,565 --> 00:32:29,212

Andrew Zimmern: I think a lot of people forget that.

837

00:32:30,187 --> 00:32:32,370

Andrew Zimmern: I really do and, by the way, I'm lucky to

838

00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,509

Andrew Zimmern: have had amazing mentors and great teachers

839

00:32:35,689 --> 00:32:37,645

Andrew Zimmern: and folks who told me to pay attention to

840

00:32:37,685 --> 00:32:38,147

Andrew Zimmern: that stuff.

841

00:32:40,446 --> 00:32:45,786

Andrew Zimmern: And, yes, is a certain part of it Dye's

842

00:32:45,806 --> 00:32:47,472

Andrew Zimmern: already cast by the time they picked up the

843

00:32:47,512 --> 00:32:49,468

Andrew Zimmern: first camera, because of what happened to

844

00:32:49,488 --> 00:32:52,135

Andrew Zimmern: be the first 33, 34 years of my life.

845

00:32:52,945 --> 00:32:55,108

Andrew Zimmern: Yes, to a certain degree, but some of it's

846

00:32:55,168 --> 00:32:55,931

Andrew Zimmern: actually learned.

847

00:32:56,305 --> 00:32:58,572

Andrew Zimmern: Some of it is paying attention, having

848

00:32:58,632 --> 00:33:01,067

Andrew Zimmern: someone remind you that not only is there

849

00:33:01,128 --> 00:33:05,427

Andrew Zimmern: someone who one day and it could be the

850

00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:05,909

Andrew Zimmern: same viewer.

851

00:33:06,905 --> 00:33:11,835

Andrew Zimmern: So one day, Marc, you're coming to the show

852

00:33:11,915 --> 00:33:12,817

Andrew Zimmern: I make, whatever it is.

853

00:33:13,965 --> 00:33:15,873

Andrew Zimmern: You just had a tough day and you pop a beer

854

00:33:16,025 --> 00:33:17,069

Andrew Zimmern: and you just want to sit down and be

855

00:33:17,109 --> 00:33:17,632

Andrew Zimmern: entertained.

856

00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:20,431

Andrew Zimmern: And then some days you're eager to like,

857

00:33:20,571 --> 00:33:24,529

Andrew Zimmern: hey, whoever's in the house, come take a

858

00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:25,031

Andrew Zimmern: look at this.

859

00:33:25,265 --> 00:33:26,812

Andrew Zimmern: And you sit down and you learn something,

860

00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:28,732

Andrew Zimmern: because it's just really cool and

861

00:33:28,812 --> 00:33:30,872

Andrew Zimmern: fascinating, or maybe just beautiful.

862

00:33:30,985 --> 00:33:32,933

Andrew Zimmern: And you learn a lot about the Faroe Islands,

863

00:33:32,945 --> 00:33:35,013

Andrew Zimmern: because I'm about to die in freezing water

864

00:33:36,308 --> 00:33:39,176

Andrew Zimmern: while Orca's circle our Zodiac boat.

865

00:33:39,926 --> 00:33:42,706

Andrew Zimmern: But no matter what it is, you have to be

866

00:33:42,827 --> 00:33:47,952

Andrew Zimmern: there for all people all the time and not

867

00:33:48,193 --> 00:33:50,362

Andrew Zimmern: ostracize members of your audience.

868

00:33:50,703 --> 00:33:52,230

Marc Preston: Oh, certainly, but I think, with the way

869

00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:53,668

Marc Preston: people come, like you said, the guys just

870

00:33:53,689 --> 00:33:56,136

Marc Preston: maybe pop in a beer, maybe another day

871

00:33:56,177 --> 00:33:57,568

Marc Preston: watch the same episode, maybe he's more

872

00:33:57,689 --> 00:33:59,287

Marc Preston: actively watching it and he's going to pick

873

00:33:59,307 --> 00:34:00,572

Marc Preston: up on something I know for myself.

874

00:34:01,045 --> 00:34:03,285

Marc Preston: I think and I don't want to conflate, I

875

00:34:03,325 --> 00:34:04,845

Marc Preston: know I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before, I

876

00:34:04,865 --> 00:34:06,932

Marc Preston: don't want to conflate y'all have two very

877

00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:09,751

Marc Preston: unique voices, but there are so many

878

00:34:09,831 --> 00:34:12,168

Marc Preston: parallels that I think had y'all not had

879

00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,647

Marc Preston: the life y'all had, I don't think y'all

880

00:34:14,667 --> 00:34:17,375

Marc Preston: would be as effective and as memorable.

881

00:34:17,465 --> 00:34:19,131

Marc Preston: And I think that you're making all these

882

00:34:19,492 --> 00:34:22,432

Marc Preston: jewel boxes of experiences for people, for

883

00:34:23,194 --> 00:34:23,776

Marc Preston: even the future.

884

00:34:24,347 --> 00:34:27,054

Marc Preston: And I just I always sat down as, like

885

00:34:27,074 --> 00:34:29,790

Marc Preston: thinking I truly enjoy both these guys for

886

00:34:29,830 --> 00:34:32,156

Marc Preston: their own special sauce.

887

00:34:32,485 --> 00:34:34,187

Marc Preston: You know what you have to offer, but there

888

00:34:34,308 --> 00:34:36,728

Marc Preston: are beautiful, wonderful parallels in what

889

00:34:36,748 --> 00:34:37,591

Marc Preston: you're kind of like.

890

00:34:38,005 --> 00:34:39,932

Marc Preston: Did you ever ever speak with Anthony

891

00:34:39,972 --> 00:34:41,389

Marc Preston: Bourdain and go, ok, how are we going to

892

00:34:41,409 --> 00:34:42,393

Marc Preston: differentiate our shows?

893

00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:44,492

Marc Preston: We're out there sort of doing something

894

00:34:44,552 --> 00:34:46,669

Marc Preston: similar and he gives you these wonderful

895

00:34:46,729 --> 00:34:49,229

Marc Preston: gentle ribs going OK, and then I show you

896

00:34:49,249 --> 00:34:50,388

Marc Preston: he's like god, this is something more for

897

00:34:50,468 --> 00:34:50,810

Marc Preston: Zimmern.

898

00:34:51,285 --> 00:34:54,012

Marc Preston: You know, you can tell Kind of Kind of.

899

00:34:54,406 --> 00:34:55,791

Andrew Zimmern: It was actually even better than that.

900

00:34:57,205 --> 00:34:58,571

Andrew Zimmern: You know, we both grew up in New York.

901

00:34:58,825 --> 00:35:03,510

Andrew Zimmern: We both were smartasses, we both had, you

902

00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:07,057

Andrew Zimmern: know, different types of addiction issues.

903

00:35:08,365 --> 00:35:10,230

Andrew Zimmern: We both worked in New York at the same time

904

00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:11,072

Andrew Zimmern: as Line Cooks.

905

00:35:13,046 --> 00:35:14,572

Andrew Zimmern: We had both gone to Vassar College.

906

00:35:14,906 --> 00:35:15,823

Andrew Zimmern: He was there a couple years.

907

00:35:15,965 --> 00:35:17,331

Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, he was there a couple years before I

908

00:35:17,371 --> 00:35:17,786

Andrew Zimmern: was Well.

909

00:35:17,906 --> 00:35:18,951

Marc Preston: I know even his father.

910

00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:20,149

Marc Preston: I remember he used to travel with his

911

00:35:20,229 --> 00:35:21,486

Marc Preston: family when he was younger, you know.

912

00:35:21,506 --> 00:35:22,791

Announcer: I know there was this that's right.

913

00:35:23,285 --> 00:35:24,108

Marc Preston: So please don't.

914

00:35:24,168 --> 00:35:25,733

Marc Preston: I'm certainly not saying y'all are just

915

00:35:25,774 --> 00:35:26,014

Marc Preston: alike.

916

00:35:26,105 --> 00:35:27,709

Marc Preston: I'm not saying that, no, we're very

917

00:35:27,770 --> 00:35:28,134

Marc Preston: different.

918

00:35:28,365 --> 00:35:29,470

Andrew Zimmern: We're very, very different.

919

00:35:29,685 --> 00:35:30,931

Andrew Zimmern: This is what was fantastic.

920

00:35:31,447 --> 00:35:36,249

Andrew Zimmern: We became friends, but he loved I mean, I

921

00:35:36,329 --> 00:35:39,486

Andrew Zimmern: think he took more pleasure giving me a ton

922

00:35:39,526 --> 00:35:40,449

Andrew Zimmern: of shit about stuff.

923

00:35:42,325 --> 00:35:44,733

Andrew Zimmern: That was his favorite thing because, as he

924

00:35:44,873 --> 00:35:47,429

Andrew Zimmern: often would say, he said, you know, we go,

925

00:35:48,191 --> 00:35:50,797

Andrew Zimmern: you know we both go to the Congo.

926

00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:55,875

Andrew Zimmern: We both eat the same Warthog meal with two

927

00:35:55,915 --> 00:35:56,757

Andrew Zimmern: different tribes.

928

00:35:57,145 --> 00:35:58,810

Andrew Zimmern: I don't know how he does it, because at

929

00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:02,908

Andrew Zimmern: least I get to drink Right, the implication

930

00:36:02,948 --> 00:36:04,785

Andrew Zimmern: being it's easier to eat that stuff if

931

00:36:04,825 --> 00:36:05,548

Andrew Zimmern: you've had a few.

932

00:36:07,986 --> 00:36:09,430

Andrew Zimmern: And you know.

933

00:36:09,471 --> 00:36:11,787

Andrew Zimmern: We explored the world telling our stories

934

00:36:11,807 --> 00:36:17,528

Andrew Zimmern: in much different styles, but we basically

935

00:36:17,568 --> 00:36:21,390

Andrew Zimmern: did the same job and he would sometimes

936

00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,645

Andrew Zimmern: call me or send me a text or an email with

937

00:36:25,685 --> 00:36:28,956

Andrew Zimmern: like, yep, I'm going to such and such,

938

00:36:29,025 --> 00:36:30,550

Andrew Zimmern: because he knew that we were trying to get

939

00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,967

Andrew Zimmern: in to that country too, and he took

940

00:36:34,308 --> 00:36:38,169

Andrew Zimmern: tremendous pleasure it actually became an

941

00:36:38,269 --> 00:36:41,891

Andrew Zimmern: epic part of his story in landing the

942

00:36:41,972 --> 00:36:44,966

Andrew Zimmern: Beirut show while we were trying to, and I

943

00:36:45,027 --> 00:36:47,374

Andrew Zimmern: took great pleasure in beating him to Cuba

944

00:36:48,006 --> 00:36:51,310

Andrew Zimmern: and to Syria, and he took great pleasure in

945

00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:55,731

Andrew Zimmern: beating me into Iran, and then it closed

946

00:36:55,771 --> 00:36:56,052

Andrew Zimmern: down.

947

00:36:56,185 --> 00:36:57,550

Andrew Zimmern: We were actually on our way.

948

00:36:58,225 --> 00:36:59,990

Andrew Zimmern: We're using the same fixer there, jason

949

00:37:00,031 --> 00:37:02,367

Andrew Zimmern: Rezaian, who is now with the Washington

950

00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:06,430

Andrew Zimmern: Post, and three weeks before we were

951

00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:11,447

Andrew Zimmern: leaving for Tehran, the country closed to

952

00:37:11,468 --> 00:37:16,408

Andrew Zimmern: Americans and Jason was imprisoned, so we

953

00:37:16,449 --> 00:37:17,774

Andrew Zimmern: had a lot to talk about.

954

00:37:17,825 --> 00:37:20,854

Andrew Zimmern: Then we were both parents of kids the same

955

00:37:21,094 --> 00:37:23,169

Andrew Zimmern: age who traveled and never saw our kids.

956

00:37:25,105 --> 00:37:26,852

Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced divorce.

957

00:37:27,005 --> 00:37:28,952

Andrew Zimmern: We both had experienced so many of the same

958

00:37:29,032 --> 00:37:29,333

Andrew Zimmern: things.

959

00:37:29,845 --> 00:37:32,755

Andrew Zimmern: So as the years went by, we became closer.

960

00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:35,653

Andrew Zimmern: He was an amazing person, the most

961

00:37:35,673 --> 00:37:37,367

Andrew Zimmern: charismatic human being I've ever met.

962

00:37:38,165 --> 00:37:39,350

Marc Preston: I think that the things we talk about

963

00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:41,268

Marc Preston: storytelling and I always kind of reference

964

00:37:41,309 --> 00:37:42,826

Marc Preston: him as sort of like one of those guys would

965

00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:44,728

Marc Preston: be a big brother, one guy it's always

966

00:37:44,748 --> 00:37:46,354

Marc Preston: trying to there's wisdom.

967

00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:48,812

Marc Preston: There is that kind of like storytelling

968

00:37:48,912 --> 00:37:49,695

Marc Preston: referencing books.

969

00:37:49,845 --> 00:37:52,669

Marc Preston: I've never read With you.

970

00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,595

Marc Preston: There's this infectious enthusiasm.

971

00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:56,691

Marc Preston: It's a definitely have your own brand,

972

00:37:56,752 --> 00:37:58,909

Marc Preston: without a doubt, but I found so many

973

00:37:58,989 --> 00:38:00,869

Marc Preston: parallels and I think that your shows and

974

00:38:00,889 --> 00:38:03,087

Marc Preston: this is not just, in fact, I know your

975

00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:06,090

Marc Preston: shows are important Because if somebody

976

00:38:06,110 --> 00:38:09,167

Marc Preston: sits down and watches it and goes, oh yeah,

977

00:38:09,207 --> 00:38:10,753

Marc Preston: the food is the common denominator, no

978

00:38:10,793 --> 00:38:13,829

Marc Preston: matter what the culture and the irony is.

979

00:38:13,849 --> 00:38:17,408

Marc Preston: You've done US-based shows, but you've been

980

00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:18,706

Marc Preston: all over the world, but I really think

981

00:38:18,787 --> 00:38:22,846

Marc Preston: right now doing the family dinner idea, I

982

00:38:22,906 --> 00:38:24,031

Marc Preston: think that people watch that.

983

00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,801

Marc Preston: I think there needs to be a lot more of

984

00:38:25,841 --> 00:38:27,149

Marc Preston: that right now, at least in the US.

985

00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:29,510

Andrew Zimmern: I agree 100%.

986

00:38:31,006 --> 00:38:32,129

Andrew Zimmern: We've never been.

987

00:38:33,191 --> 00:38:36,448

Andrew Zimmern: I don't hide my age at all, I'm 61.

988

00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:40,395

Andrew Zimmern: And there's never been a time in my life

989

00:38:40,465 --> 00:38:42,612

Andrew Zimmern: where I've been more scared about the

990

00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:44,808

Andrew Zimmern: divisive nature of our culture, our

991

00:38:44,888 --> 00:38:48,206

Andrew Zimmern: politics, every factor of American life, or

992

00:38:48,246 --> 00:38:50,113

Andrew Zimmern: the divide between haves and have nots.

993

00:38:50,165 --> 00:38:52,605

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, it's just division and divide, or

994

00:38:52,646 --> 00:38:54,573

Andrew Zimmern: words I could use so much.

995

00:38:54,625 --> 00:38:58,386

Andrew Zimmern: So anything that I can do, I think it's my

996

00:38:58,446 --> 00:38:59,751

Andrew Zimmern: responsibility in a sense.

997

00:39:00,526 --> 00:39:02,446

Andrew Zimmern: When Magnolia came to us and said we want

998

00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,493

Andrew Zimmern: an intuitive content show.

999

00:39:04,533 --> 00:39:06,269

Andrew Zimmern: That's my production company, I immediately

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00:39:06,329 --> 00:39:07,193

Andrew Zimmern: said family dinner.

Speaker:

00:39:07,265 --> 00:39:10,032

Andrew Zimmern: Because we put a family dinner in every

Speaker:

00:39:10,112 --> 00:39:11,255

Andrew Zimmern: episode of Bizarre Foods.

Speaker:

00:39:12,465 --> 00:39:14,392

Andrew Zimmern: We didn't label it or circle it, but we put

Speaker:

00:39:14,532 --> 00:39:16,049

Andrew Zimmern: one in there Because I felt it was

Speaker:

00:39:16,089 --> 00:39:17,850

Andrew Zimmern: important and I knew it worked.

Speaker:

00:39:17,885 --> 00:39:19,091

Andrew Zimmern: So I said let's do family dinner.

Speaker:

00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:20,149

Andrew Zimmern: And then they came back to me a couple

Speaker:

00:39:20,169 --> 00:39:21,887

Andrew Zimmern: weeks later and said well, we can't imagine

Speaker:

00:39:21,907 --> 00:39:23,793

Andrew Zimmern: this being hosted by anyone other than you.

Speaker:

00:39:23,833 --> 00:39:24,435

Andrew Zimmern: Would you do it?

Speaker:

00:39:24,885 --> 00:39:29,353

Andrew Zimmern: And I said, sure, and it's a fantastic show

Speaker:

00:39:29,393 --> 00:39:29,775

Andrew Zimmern: that way.

Speaker:

00:39:31,549 --> 00:39:33,434

Andrew Zimmern: And is it at times a little bit saccharine?

Speaker:

00:39:33,635 --> 00:39:38,815

Andrew Zimmern: Sure, is it at times extremely revelatory

Speaker:

00:39:39,416 --> 00:39:41,850

Andrew Zimmern: about who we are and why we do what we do

Speaker:

00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:44,487

Andrew Zimmern: as human beings, absolutely, and everything

Speaker:

00:39:44,527 --> 00:39:45,110

Andrew Zimmern: in between.

Speaker:

00:39:45,525 --> 00:39:48,111

Andrew Zimmern: But I do think it's a show that's ideally

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00:39:48,211 --> 00:39:50,436

Andrew Zimmern: suited for now.

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00:39:51,665 --> 00:39:54,092

Marc Preston: And speaking of the creation, and of course

Speaker:

00:39:54,172 --> 00:39:57,450

Marc Preston: I narrate TV shows and I understand a lot

Speaker:

00:39:57,470 --> 00:39:58,434

Marc Preston: of the production process.

Speaker:

00:39:58,525 --> 00:39:59,946

Marc Preston: I understand the other sizzle reels Trying

Speaker:

00:39:59,966 --> 00:40:02,849

Marc Preston: to get a show off the ground how many ideas

Speaker:

00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:04,908

Marc Preston: do you sit down, I mean throughout?

Speaker:

00:40:04,928 --> 00:40:07,867

Marc Preston: They'll say the span of a year, and I don't

Speaker:

00:40:07,887 --> 00:40:09,672

Marc Preston: want to say the Marcet's saturated with

Speaker:

00:40:09,813 --> 00:40:11,990

Marc Preston: food programming, it's just there is a lot

Speaker:

00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:13,615

Marc Preston: of options and a lot of different flavors

Speaker:

00:40:13,685 --> 00:40:14,730

Marc Preston: no pun intended out there.

Speaker:

00:40:15,265 --> 00:40:16,691

Marc Preston: How do you come up with your ideas on the

Speaker:

00:40:16,711 --> 00:40:17,233

Marc Preston: span of a year?

Speaker:

00:40:17,325 --> 00:40:18,870

Marc Preston: How many ideas are you coming up with for a

Speaker:

00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:19,994

Marc Preston: concept for a show?

Speaker:

00:40:20,685 --> 00:40:22,773

Marc Preston: And how do you know, like, yes, this one's

Speaker:

00:40:22,825 --> 00:40:24,068

Marc Preston: where I'm going to put my heart into this

Speaker:

00:40:24,189 --> 00:40:24,570

Marc Preston: one thing.

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00:40:30,311 --> 00:40:33,458

Andrew Zimmern: Well, I'm blessed to own a production

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00:40:33,478 --> 00:40:35,510

Andrew Zimmern: company that's a real screen international

Speaker:

00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,413

Andrew Zimmern: 100 company.

Speaker:

00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:41,334

Andrew Zimmern: The development team that is overt

Speaker:

00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,712

Andrew Zimmern: intuitive, churns ideas on a weekly basis.

Speaker:

00:40:47,725 --> 00:40:50,347

Andrew Zimmern: Some weeks it's three or four, some weeks

Speaker:

00:40:50,427 --> 00:40:50,990

Andrew Zimmern: it's 10.

Speaker:

00:40:51,565 --> 00:40:54,093

Andrew Zimmern: Because a network has asked for a bunch of

Speaker:

00:40:54,153 --> 00:40:56,850

Andrew Zimmern: log lines on a certain type of show by

Speaker:

00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:01,411

Andrew Zimmern: request, and so we will come up.

Speaker:

00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:04,873

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, look, some get discarded the day

Speaker:

00:41:04,945 --> 00:41:07,908

Andrew Zimmern: after you come up with them, but they will

Speaker:

00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:12,175

Andrew Zimmern: develop 200 ideas across the course of a

Speaker:

00:41:12,235 --> 00:41:17,453

Andrew Zimmern: year beyond someone in a meeting saying,

Speaker:

00:41:17,473 --> 00:41:18,336

Andrew Zimmern: hey, what about this?

Speaker:

00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,392

Andrew Zimmern: I mean, science is just one step further

Speaker:

00:41:20,432 --> 00:41:25,690

Andrew Zimmern: than that, but it's discussed and we're

Speaker:

00:41:25,790 --> 00:41:28,557

Andrew Zimmern: lucky if five or six of those become shows.

Speaker:

00:41:29,385 --> 00:41:34,305

Andrew Zimmern: No-transcript.

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00:41:36,572 --> 00:41:38,356

Marc Preston: Just one last question regarding Anthony

Speaker:

00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:38,817

Marc Preston: Bourdain.

Speaker:

00:41:39,046 --> 00:41:41,615

Marc Preston: I was curious and naturally, of course, it

Speaker:

00:41:41,656 --> 00:41:42,619

Marc Preston: was sad, it was difficult.

Speaker:

00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,470

Marc Preston: But how did you find out and how did it

Speaker:

00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:46,313

Marc Preston: initially land?

Speaker:

00:41:46,525 --> 00:41:47,788

Marc Preston: Because I know my daughter called me and

Speaker:

00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:49,974

Marc Preston: told me I was like it was a very odd day,

Speaker:

00:41:50,375 --> 00:41:51,687

Marc Preston: to say the very least.

Speaker:

00:41:51,727 --> 00:41:53,914

Marc Preston: But how did that affect you that day?

Speaker:

00:41:54,525 --> 00:41:58,334

Andrew Zimmern: Oh, it was, I mean, horrific.

Speaker:

00:41:59,785 --> 00:42:01,909

Andrew Zimmern: So the night beforehand we had been

Speaker:

00:42:01,989 --> 00:42:06,097

Andrew Zimmern: shooting until 11 midnight in Philadelphia

Speaker:

00:42:07,847 --> 00:42:10,233

Andrew Zimmern: and you know we have to give the crew a

Speaker:

00:42:10,253 --> 00:42:11,396

Andrew Zimmern: certain number of hours off.

Speaker:

00:42:12,045 --> 00:42:16,514

Andrew Zimmern: So my call time, instead of being 7am, was

Speaker:

00:42:16,894 --> 00:42:20,389

Andrew Zimmern: 11.30 or noon and so I was sleeping in.

Speaker:

00:42:21,885 --> 00:42:23,529

Andrew Zimmern: And you know, my alarm goes off at 10,

Speaker:

00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:24,351

Andrew Zimmern: 10.30.

Speaker:

00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:30,576

Andrew Zimmern: And you know you hit your, you know my

Speaker:

00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,097

Andrew Zimmern: iPhone.

Speaker:

00:42:31,158 --> 00:42:33,925

Andrew Zimmern: I hit the off button and up pops my home

Speaker:

00:42:34,066 --> 00:42:40,313

Andrew Zimmern: screen and there are what appear to be

Speaker:

00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:45,046

Andrew Zimmern: hundreds of alerts and messages and I

Speaker:

00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:49,187

Andrew Zimmern: immediately panicked Because the only

Speaker:

00:42:49,248 --> 00:42:50,734

Andrew Zimmern: reason I could think of that there would be

Speaker:

00:42:50,854 --> 00:42:54,086

Andrew Zimmern: that much traffic on my phone would be if

Speaker:

00:42:54,126 --> 00:42:55,510

Andrew Zimmern: something had happened to my child and

Speaker:

00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:56,653

Andrew Zimmern: people were trying to get a hold of me.

Speaker:

00:42:59,007 --> 00:43:02,294

Andrew Zimmern: And I grabbed it and there's like phone

Speaker:

00:43:02,314 --> 00:43:04,185

Andrew Zimmern: message, phone message, phone message, and

Speaker:

00:43:04,386 --> 00:43:05,854

Andrew Zimmern: some of them were friends of mine that were

Speaker:

00:43:05,914 --> 00:43:08,105

Andrew Zimmern: reporters, and I was, but they were food

Speaker:

00:43:08,346 --> 00:43:12,134

Andrew Zimmern: side, and then I saw that, then the see it,

Speaker:

00:43:12,174 --> 00:43:13,801

Andrew Zimmern: then the alerts from the news.

Speaker:

00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:15,169

Marc Preston: And your brain's trying to put together

Speaker:

00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:16,853

Marc Preston: quickly what is going on in this.

Speaker:

00:43:16,874 --> 00:43:17,475

Marc Preston: What's going on?

Speaker:

00:43:18,446 --> 00:43:21,310

Andrew Zimmern: And I saw that you know I think I forget

Speaker:

00:43:21,631 --> 00:43:26,699

Andrew Zimmern: which news group I subscribed to so many

Speaker:

00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,909

Andrew Zimmern: came up, were the first line, because you

Speaker:

00:43:28,929 --> 00:43:31,796

Andrew Zimmern: only see a little snippet said Anthony

Speaker:

00:43:31,836 --> 00:43:33,228

Andrew Zimmern: Bourdain, dead at age.

Speaker:

00:43:34,726 --> 00:43:39,566

Andrew Zimmern: And I, I just I was in shock and so I

Speaker:

00:43:39,726 --> 00:43:42,893

Andrew Zimmern: opened up my phone and I saw that several

Speaker:

00:43:44,075 --> 00:43:45,619

Andrew Zimmern: reporters that I knew had called me.

Speaker:

00:43:45,725 --> 00:43:52,516

Andrew Zimmern: I called one of them back and I said you,

Speaker:

00:43:52,677 --> 00:43:54,059

Andrew Zimmern: you left me a message.

Speaker:

00:43:54,926 --> 00:43:56,952

Andrew Zimmern: I said I just woke up what happened.

Speaker:

00:43:58,165 --> 00:44:01,587

Andrew Zimmern: And they filled me in and I wound up.

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00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,055

Andrew Zimmern: I then called our producers who were with

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00:44:05,135 --> 00:44:05,957

Andrew Zimmern: me in Philadelphia.

Speaker:

00:44:06,285 --> 00:44:07,491

Andrew Zimmern: They had, they knew it.

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00:44:07,605 --> 00:44:09,313

Andrew Zimmern: They had found out an hour earlier when

Speaker:

00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:11,364

Andrew Zimmern: they got up and they were like, look, if

Speaker:

00:44:11,404 --> 00:44:13,350

Andrew Zimmern: you want to take the day off, we'll just,

Speaker:

00:44:14,212 --> 00:44:15,576

Andrew Zimmern: we'll just cancel today's shoot.

Speaker:

00:44:15,685 --> 00:44:16,869

Andrew Zimmern: And I'm like, absolutely not.

Speaker:

00:44:20,047 --> 00:44:21,210

Andrew Zimmern: And he had given.

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00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:22,994

Andrew Zimmern: I gave him a lot of shit about some of his

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00:44:23,054 --> 00:44:25,591

Andrew Zimmern: shoes and he had given me a pair of shoes.

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00:44:25,645 --> 00:44:27,912

Marc Preston: I actually had them in my bag and I wore

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00:44:27,952 --> 00:44:29,791

Marc Preston: the shoes he gave me Were the shoes in the

Speaker:

00:44:29,811 --> 00:44:31,283

Marc Preston: cowboy boots Because I know he had loved

Speaker:

00:44:31,303 --> 00:44:31,565

Marc Preston: cowboy boots.

Speaker:

00:44:31,565 --> 00:44:32,909

Andrew Zimmern: They weren't, they were desert, they were

Speaker:

00:44:32,949 --> 00:44:37,424

Andrew Zimmern: Clark's desert boots, which he had

Speaker:

00:44:37,464 --> 00:44:38,588

Andrew Zimmern: developed an affection for.

Speaker:

00:44:40,687 --> 00:44:44,494

Andrew Zimmern: And I, I called a lot of people back

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00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:48,631

Andrew Zimmern: because we delayed our start and I, you

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00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:51,043

Andrew Zimmern: know, I checked in with his, with his

Speaker:

00:44:51,123 --> 00:44:54,813

Andrew Zimmern: family, I mean, I was, I knew his wife, his

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00:44:54,874 --> 00:44:58,050

Andrew Zimmern: daughter and then, of course, the you know,

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00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:01,742

Andrew Zimmern: at 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock that night, we're

Speaker:

00:45:01,822 --> 00:45:03,308

Andrew Zimmern: shooting at Zahav restaurant in

Speaker:

00:45:03,368 --> 00:45:05,931

Andrew Zimmern: Philadelphia At the end of the day, where I

Speaker:

00:45:05,971 --> 00:45:07,580

Andrew Zimmern: was like half paying attention.

Speaker:

00:45:07,620 --> 00:45:09,168

Andrew Zimmern: Every other second I'm on the phone with a

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00:45:09,208 --> 00:45:11,267

Andrew Zimmern: reporter or tech me, and part of the

Speaker:

00:45:11,307 --> 00:45:15,015

Andrew Zimmern: responsibility I felt was so many people

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00:45:15,035 --> 00:45:17,348

Andrew Zimmern: are going to give the wrong impression, say

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00:45:17,388 --> 00:45:20,536

Andrew Zimmern: the wrong thing, do the wrong thing.

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00:45:21,185 --> 00:45:22,610

Marc Preston: But you're in a unique position to give

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00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:23,673

Marc Preston: wonderful context.

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00:45:24,866 --> 00:45:30,154

Andrew Zimmern: Well, and so so I I felt that it was okay

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00:45:30,235 --> 00:45:33,079

Andrew Zimmern: for me to to respond to a lot of these.

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, everyone wanted my take on it.

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Andrew Zimmern: Now, you have to remember he's Tony's

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Andrew Zimmern: traveling with his best friend, eric Repair.

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Andrew Zimmern: Eric's not available.

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Andrew Zimmern: Eric, I mean, it's just, it's just horrific

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00:45:45,548 --> 00:45:47,534

Andrew Zimmern: so, and the family's non responsive.

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Andrew Zimmern: So it it it.

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Andrew Zimmern: Then it falls to tier two, friends to sort

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Andrew Zimmern: of like put the kibosh in the right thing,

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00:45:58,525 --> 00:46:00,369

Andrew Zimmern: you know, and do the, you know, make sure

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00:46:00,429 --> 00:46:04,838

Andrew Zimmern: that that the right thing is done.

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Andrew Zimmern: And so, and I wound up going on a couple

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Andrew Zimmern: CNN shows.

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, that night they sent a live truck

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Andrew Zimmern: over to the restaurant that we were at and

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Andrew Zimmern: you know, I did a couple of a couple of

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Andrew Zimmern: those shows and it was just, it was a very,

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Andrew Zimmern: very, very sad night.

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Andrew Zimmern: I I can certainly say that not only was he

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Andrew Zimmern: the most charismatic human being I ever met,

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Andrew Zimmern: but I think he's one of the most important

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Andrew Zimmern: voices of of my generation and I think, you

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00:46:33,148 --> 00:46:35,352

Andrew Zimmern: know, 50, 100 years from now, they will

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Andrew Zimmern: still be selling his books and talking

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Andrew Zimmern: about him in the same way that we do now.

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Marc Preston: I couldn't agree more and I think that it

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Marc Preston: will have to be, with time, that people can

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Marc Preston: look back.

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Marc Preston: Like I said, there were the same thing with

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00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:50,533

Marc Preston: the shows you create.

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Andrew Zimmern: They do create not only insight, but it's

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00:46:53,191 --> 00:46:55,356

Andrew Zimmern: also a time capsule and to a degree, I

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00:46:55,416 --> 00:46:59,290

Andrew Zimmern: think that so he he wanted to craft art

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00:46:59,370 --> 00:47:02,035

Andrew Zimmern: pieces out of a lot of his shows you know,

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00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:05,071

Andrew Zimmern: and you know the black and white show and

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Andrew Zimmern: he let me know like all the different

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Andrew Zimmern: things that he would do to try to be

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Andrew Zimmern: creative was fantastic.

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Marc Preston: Did you think the Roadrunner documentary

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Marc Preston: for the, for the layperson, do you think

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00:47:18,925 --> 00:47:20,829

Marc Preston: them watching that that they got it pretty

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Marc Preston: right?

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Marc Preston: As far as articulating the Anthony Borden

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Marc Preston: experience, Did the Roadrunner documentary

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Marc Preston: got that done?

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Andrew Zimmern: To be honest with you, and I've tried a

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Andrew Zimmern: couple of times, I've not been able to get

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Andrew Zimmern: more than halfway through it.

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean the and and and part of that is and

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Andrew Zimmern: I have.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not one of those people who has a, who

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00:47:41,806 --> 00:47:43,048

Andrew Zimmern: has a problem with them.

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00:47:44,731 --> 00:47:49,679

Andrew Zimmern: You know, using AI to have him narrate,

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00:47:49,739 --> 00:47:51,670

Andrew Zimmern: hear his voice, narrating things he wrote.

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Andrew Zimmern: I, you know, I, you know I don't have

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00:47:55,753 --> 00:47:57,878

Andrew Zimmern: quibbles with that kind of thing.

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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just, you know I knew him, I, I, he

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Andrew Zimmern: was my friend, I and so other people have

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Andrew Zimmern: to decide for themselves.

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Andrew Zimmern: My understanding is from a lot of people.

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Andrew Zimmern: For the most part, they did get it right

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Andrew Zimmern: and certainly gave enough of a taste of it.

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Andrew Zimmern: I you know, but I've not been able to to

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Andrew Zimmern: make it through it and I've tried several

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Andrew Zimmern: times.

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Andrew Zimmern: I just I run out of of emotional energy for

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Andrew Zimmern: it.

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Andrew Zimmern: It's not that I get upset and have to turn

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Andrew Zimmern: it off.

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Andrew Zimmern: I, I just I have no desire to watch and I

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Andrew Zimmern: know it's only one of a handful of people

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Andrew Zimmern: that may be able to, to say that, just like,

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Andrew Zimmern: I've no interest in in seeing it and it's

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Andrew Zimmern: not a knock against them.

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Marc Preston: There's only one episode of parts unknown I

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Marc Preston: haven't seen.

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00:48:51,745 --> 00:48:52,865

Marc Preston: It's the New Orleans episode.

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Marc Preston: I guess I, you know I'm Texas boy but I

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Marc Preston: live in New Orleans.

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Marc Preston: Now I've been here for quite some time and

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Marc Preston: and I remember one of his episodes he went

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Marc Preston: to a restaurant that was the best muff lot

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Marc Preston: in New Orleans.

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Marc Preston: You know he, he was like you do the same

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Marc Preston: thing.

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Marc Preston: You're not doing the travel guide way of

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00:49:07,831 --> 00:49:09,527

Marc Preston: doing things, you know, and I remember

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Marc Preston: thinking that's I just can't bring myself

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00:49:11,132 --> 00:49:13,609

Marc Preston: to watch that episode, just the most.

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Marc Preston: The most recent episode on the the no

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Marc Preston: reservation show.

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00:49:16,255 --> 00:49:17,277

Marc Preston: I watched the New Orleans.

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00:49:17,866 --> 00:49:19,392

Marc Preston: He always got it right, and you do as well,

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00:49:19,785 --> 00:49:23,097

Marc Preston: and when we were, you know, when I travel

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00:49:23,138 --> 00:49:25,325

Marc Preston: somewhere I inevitably I'm going to look up

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00:49:25,345 --> 00:49:26,409

Marc Preston: what did Andrew go there?

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00:49:26,529 --> 00:49:27,572

Marc Preston: Let me go watch that episode.

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00:49:27,592 --> 00:49:30,133

Marc Preston: Thank God for streaming and I've got

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00:49:30,154 --> 00:49:31,079

Marc Preston: Discovery, which I'm a big fan of.

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00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:32,989

Marc Preston: The Discovery Plus app I made five bucks a

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00:49:33,029 --> 00:49:35,099

Marc Preston: month is not trying to sell them, but it's

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00:49:35,220 --> 00:49:37,289

Marc Preston: it's, of all the streamers out there really

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00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:39,075

Marc Preston: has got a lot of content.

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00:49:39,205 --> 00:49:41,816

Andrew Zimmern: Well, massive, massive library, and now

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00:49:41,836 --> 00:49:43,744

Andrew Zimmern: that they've added you know, now the Warner

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00:49:43,764 --> 00:49:46,487

Andrew Zimmern: Brothers side is on there the movies and I,

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Andrew Zimmern: I I'm not going to disagree with you, of

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00:49:50,125 --> 00:49:52,791

Andrew Zimmern: course, as someone who made four or five

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Andrew Zimmern: shows in New Orleans, I'm dying to know

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00:49:56,298 --> 00:49:57,348

Andrew Zimmern: you're you're going to have to watch some

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00:49:57,388 --> 00:49:58,953

Andrew Zimmern: of mine and tell me if I got any of it

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00:49:59,013 --> 00:50:00,106

Andrew Zimmern: right, but I will.

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Andrew Zimmern: I will say this there is a restaurant that

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Andrew Zimmern: I subs, after being taken there and getting

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Andrew Zimmern: turned on to it by a chef friend, have

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Andrew Zimmern: visited on every time that I've gone back

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Andrew Zimmern: there and that's R and O's out on the levy

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00:50:16,612 --> 00:50:17,213

Andrew Zimmern: and mettery.

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Marc Preston: What?

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00:50:18,034 --> 00:50:18,776

Marc Preston: Okay, see now.

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00:50:18,876 --> 00:50:19,537

Marc Preston: Now you're a local.

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00:50:20,705 --> 00:50:22,065

Marc Preston: If you know R and O's, it's not sexy, it's.

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00:50:22,085 --> 00:50:24,711

Marc Preston: You know it's not, you know it it.

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00:50:24,811 --> 00:50:29,188

Andrew Zimmern: but it is a local's place, it's incredible

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00:50:29,369 --> 00:50:32,399

Andrew Zimmern: that I actually, in an episode that I shot

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Andrew Zimmern: there, I got up and stood in the middle of

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Andrew Zimmern: the dining room at lunch.

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Andrew Zimmern: There's 200 people in there, it's mobbed,

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00:50:38,368 --> 00:50:40,513

Andrew Zimmern: lined of people out the door and I stood up

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00:50:40,613 --> 00:50:44,129

Andrew Zimmern: all local, by the way and I and I stood up

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00:50:44,209 --> 00:50:45,573

Andrew Zimmern: and I quieted everyone down.

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00:50:45,693 --> 00:50:48,227

Andrew Zimmern: Cameras are rolling and I said is there

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00:50:48,428 --> 00:50:52,274

Andrew Zimmern: anyone here who's not a local and a regular?

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00:50:52,835 --> 00:50:55,847

Andrew Zimmern: And not a single hand went up and I just

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00:50:55,868 --> 00:50:57,845

Andrew Zimmern: like raised my hand and everyone laughed.

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00:50:57,986 --> 00:51:00,086

Andrew Zimmern: It was a great moment in the show but just

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00:51:00,126 --> 00:51:02,091

Andrew Zimmern: to, there was no other way to illustrate to

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00:51:02,131 --> 00:51:04,097

Andrew Zimmern: my audience how much of kind of like an

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00:51:04,305 --> 00:51:09,278

Andrew Zimmern: insider's place it was and it's great.

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00:51:09,465 --> 00:51:12,533

Andrew Zimmern: I mean fried seafood and gumbo and a beef,

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00:51:12,914 --> 00:51:13,596

Andrew Zimmern: an unha.

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00:51:14,305 --> 00:51:16,475

Andrew Zimmern: It's never on anyone's list of best po-boys,

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00:51:16,957 --> 00:51:18,704

Andrew Zimmern: but they have a fried oyster po-boy, a

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00:51:18,724 --> 00:51:22,095

Andrew Zimmern: fried shrimp po-boy, but their beef po-boy

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00:51:22,175 --> 00:51:24,784

Andrew Zimmern: is what all my chef friends go there for

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00:51:24,864 --> 00:51:28,248

Andrew Zimmern: because of their gravy, and I have one

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00:51:28,328 --> 00:51:30,935

Andrew Zimmern: friend who does an oyster and it's a surf

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00:51:30,976 --> 00:51:33,279

Andrew Zimmern: and turf, he does fried oysters and beef

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00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:38,355

Andrew Zimmern: with beef gravy and I'm just it's mind

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00:51:38,395 --> 00:51:39,378

Andrew Zimmern: bogglingly good.

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Andrew Zimmern: I just, I love everything about R&O.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, that is.

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00:51:43,187 --> 00:51:45,314

Marc Preston: It's every ages in there too.

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00:51:45,445 --> 00:51:46,871

Marc Preston: You know it's, you can tell it's a local

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00:51:46,891 --> 00:51:47,012

Marc Preston: sport.

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Marc Preston: There's a place next to it called Deenies.

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00:51:50,687 --> 00:51:52,293

Marc Preston: I think you may have gone to Deenies.

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00:51:52,766 --> 00:51:54,873

Marc Preston: I seem to remember I did not.

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Andrew Zimmern: But if there's a place next, this is what's

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00:51:57,191 --> 00:51:57,993

Andrew Zimmern: so great about life.

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00:51:58,985 --> 00:52:00,009

Andrew Zimmern: Someone says to you oh, have you been to

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00:52:00,029 --> 00:52:00,873

Andrew Zimmern: the place next door?

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00:52:01,005 --> 00:52:02,571

Andrew Zimmern: It's like, well, no, I haven't because I

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00:52:02,611 --> 00:52:03,233

Andrew Zimmern: don't live there.

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00:52:03,525 --> 00:52:04,931

Andrew Zimmern: So whenever I go, I go to R&Os.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'm not going there to go to the place next

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Andrew Zimmern: door.

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00:52:07,285 --> 00:52:09,413

Andrew Zimmern: And now I'm like check out the place next

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Andrew Zimmern: door.

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Marc Preston: I will tell you that very few things turn

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Marc Preston: me.

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Marc Preston: I mean living in New Orleans.

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Marc Preston: I will say this, being a Dallas boy, having

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00:52:15,249 --> 00:52:17,034

Marc Preston: lived and worked in Los Angeles as well,

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00:52:17,885 --> 00:52:19,435

Marc Preston: having been here about on and off about 20

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00:52:19,475 --> 00:52:20,844

Marc Preston: years, I can tell you that two things.

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00:52:20,865 --> 00:52:22,829

Marc Preston: I'm tired of seeing them open up or po-boy

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00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:24,574

Marc Preston: places and daiquiri shops, because they're

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00:52:24,654 --> 00:52:26,566

Marc Preston: everywhere, everybody does it, and once you

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00:52:26,586 --> 00:52:28,189

Marc Preston: have a place that starts doing something

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00:52:28,249 --> 00:52:30,896

Marc Preston: really well, it's, I imagine, philadelphia

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00:52:30,956 --> 00:52:33,108

Marc Preston: cheese steaks A lot everybody starts doing

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00:52:33,129 --> 00:52:35,355

Marc Preston: them, but they're the kind of elite few.

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00:52:36,225 --> 00:52:37,408

Marc Preston: And there's this place, dinis, they do

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00:52:37,469 --> 00:52:37,769

Marc Preston: something.

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00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:40,525

Marc Preston: They do a barbecue shrimp po-boy and it's

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00:52:40,686 --> 00:52:43,325

Marc Preston: not barbecue like barbecue sauce, it's a

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00:52:43,346 --> 00:52:45,152

Marc Preston: buttload of butter, and oh yeah.

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00:52:46,125 --> 00:52:48,248

Marc Preston: And you go there, and you go just take a

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00:52:48,352 --> 00:52:50,486

Marc Preston: bottle of Lipitor, go to town on it,

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00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:52,249

Marc Preston: because if you don't, you're missing out.

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00:52:52,389 --> 00:52:55,432

Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, and I love, I love New Orleans style

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00:52:55,773 --> 00:52:58,041

Andrew Zimmern: barbecue shrimp and a cast iron pan with

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00:52:58,062 --> 00:52:59,755

Andrew Zimmern: lots of rosemary and butter.

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00:52:59,917 --> 00:53:01,187

Andrew Zimmern: And you know, you know that's one of the

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00:53:01,207 --> 00:53:02,511

Andrew Zimmern: things I wanted to ask you about is that

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Andrew Zimmern: you've been to New Orleans.

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Marc Preston: They cannot replicate what's in New Orleans

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00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:06,894

Marc Preston: anywhere else on earth the way it is in New

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Marc Preston: Orleans.

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00:53:07,805 --> 00:53:08,848

Marc Preston: But the thing is, if you want something

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00:53:08,868 --> 00:53:10,433

Marc Preston: besides the unique fine dining the

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00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:13,869

Marc Preston: Antoine's, galatois, things like that it's

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Marc Preston: a little bit more of a challenge to find

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Marc Preston: those ethnic kind of places that are not

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00:53:20,428 --> 00:53:21,792

Marc Preston: and I don't know the phrase for it.

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00:53:21,832 --> 00:53:23,035

Marc Preston: Maybe you can help me out, but I can't.

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00:53:23,365 --> 00:53:26,697

Marc Preston: It's almost like gentrified food where,

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00:53:26,737 --> 00:53:28,163

Marc Preston: yeah, oh, they have I'm not saying this

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00:53:28,383 --> 00:53:30,010

Marc Preston: necessarily the case, but let's say African.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's going to be a little bit out of

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00:53:31,814 --> 00:53:33,124

Marc Preston: the reach for the average person because

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00:53:33,144 --> 00:53:34,007

Marc Preston: it's going to be a little bit more on the

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00:53:34,068 --> 00:53:34,670

Marc Preston: fancy side.

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00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:36,355

Marc Preston: Where you go to New York you want great

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00:53:36,425 --> 00:53:38,110

Marc Preston: Indian to ask your cab driver, you're going

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00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:39,835

Marc Preston: to go spend five bucks and have a full meal,

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00:53:40,205 --> 00:53:40,426

Marc Preston: you know.

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00:53:42,125 --> 00:53:43,391

Marc Preston: But that's the one thing about New Orleans.

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Marc Preston: I wish we had more stuff from elsewhere,

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Marc Preston: you know.

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, but people, new Orleans is the.

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Andrew Zimmern: There's only a couple cities in the world

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Andrew Zimmern: that I believe fit this bill.

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Andrew Zimmern: When you shut your eyes and you say the

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Andrew Zimmern: word New Orleans twice out loud, you can

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Andrew Zimmern: smell it and taste it, and you cannot say

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Andrew Zimmern: that about other cities.

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Andrew Zimmern: And the reason is is because the food is

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Andrew Zimmern: its own.

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Andrew Zimmern: I don't, you know, nobody goes to.

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Andrew Zimmern: I've had friends go to Beijing and ask me

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Andrew Zimmern: for a great place for a hamburger, because

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Andrew Zimmern: they don't want to eat Chinese food all the

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Andrew Zimmern: time, and I said why?

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Andrew Zimmern: The first of all?

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Andrew Zimmern: I think it's a ridiculous question,

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Andrew Zimmern: ridiculous supposition, and I personally am

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Andrew Zimmern: so offended when anyone I know asked me

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Andrew Zimmern: that question.

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Andrew Zimmern: But no one goes down to New Orleans and

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Andrew Zimmern: says, geez, do you know a good Japanese

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00:54:36,615 --> 00:54:39,469

Andrew Zimmern: place for you know now, I'm sure, locals

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Andrew Zimmern: down there like you just expressed wished

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Andrew Zimmern: you had God.

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Andrew Zimmern: Sometimes I just feel like a great

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Andrew Zimmern: schnitzel, you know.

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Marc Preston: But God, that is almost like weird.

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Marc Preston: You say that I literally was watching

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Marc Preston: something a couple days ago of you you had.

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Marc Preston: It was some kind of a German thing where

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Marc Preston: they had oh God it was, I don't mean to

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Marc Preston: interrupt the schnitzel sandwich at the

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Marc Preston: State Fair.

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Andrew Zimmern: No, it was on my Instagram.

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Marc Preston: No, it was bits and pieces of shit.

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Marc Preston: Okay, I can't remember, but it was.

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Marc Preston: I was thinking schnitzel and.

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Marc Preston: Spatula and things like that.

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Marc Preston: I'm like, oh, those are kind of things.

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Andrew Zimmern: My point is my point is that you know New

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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, like Portland Maine, where my dad

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Andrew Zimmern: retires, one of those cities that has a

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Andrew Zimmern: very small population yet has I mean, what

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Andrew Zimmern: does New Orleans get?

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Andrew Zimmern: 24 million?

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Marc Preston: visitors a year.

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Andrew Zimmern: It's an ungodly thing.

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Andrew Zimmern: And so, relative to the residential

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Andrew Zimmern: population, new Orleans has the most number

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Andrew Zimmern: of restaurants.

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Andrew Zimmern: This is, pre-covid, the most number of

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Andrew Zimmern: restaurants in any city in America per

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Andrew Zimmern: capita, because, just like Portland Maine,

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Andrew Zimmern: it fills up with people.

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Andrew Zimmern: Except New Orleans fills up 10 months a

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Andrew Zimmern: year, portland Maine only three months,

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Andrew Zimmern: four months a year, and so, consequently,

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Andrew Zimmern: everybody wants to eat there, and you also

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Andrew Zimmern: have to remember that even you know America

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Andrew Zimmern: is some of the most beloved food in America,

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Andrew Zimmern: which is Italian food.

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean globally a favorite has developed

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Andrew Zimmern: its own hybridized style.

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Andrew Zimmern: There is a unique aspect to the New Orleans

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Andrew Zimmern: Italian restaurants that can be certain

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Andrew Zimmern: style.

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Andrew Zimmern: And there's a lot of the Creole tinge,

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Andrew Zimmern: which is different than Cajun, has sort of

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Andrew Zimmern: flown in there, and you know it's.

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Andrew Zimmern: You take someone who says, oh, are we going

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Andrew Zimmern: to eat Italian food tonight?

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Andrew Zimmern: Sure, and you take them to Chujox and it's.

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Andrew Zimmern: You watch their eyes roll back in their

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Andrew Zimmern: head and they're like this isn't Italian.

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Andrew Zimmern: And you're like, well, right, but it's New

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Andrew Zimmern: Orleans, right, I mean.

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Andrew Zimmern: So there's so many places like that.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that town.

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Marc Preston: People understand Jefferson Parish.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, jefferson Parish is very.

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Marc Preston: They even have the Irish Italian parade

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Marc Preston: here.

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Marc Preston: I mean Italian, a lot of influences.

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Marc Preston: But I will tell you the next time you're in

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Marc Preston: there is.

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Marc Preston: We're kind of wrapping up here, but I do

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Marc Preston: have to tell you next time you're in New

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Marc Preston: Orleans I wouldn't be a.

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Marc Preston: Well, I think I've been through Katrina and

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Marc Preston: all the hurricanes.

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Marc Preston: I feel like I've earned my stripes here.

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Marc Preston: You know, sure, anthony Bourdain went there

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00:57:24,249 --> 00:57:25,351

Marc Preston: and I knew he got.

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Marc Preston: He did what the smart people do in New

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Marc Preston: Orleans and get a cab driver.

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Marc Preston: It's kind of old, maybe a little crusty.

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Marc Preston: Ask them where they eat, because it's

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Marc Preston: always great.

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Marc Preston: Sure, I mean, there's a lot of sandwich

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Marc Preston: place called Norgeo.

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Marc Preston: It's an old metteried.

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Marc Preston: Everybody goes to the French Quarter to get

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Marc Preston: it.

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Marc Preston: But this is just, it is unique.

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00:57:44,148 --> 00:57:46,562

Marc Preston: It's got that olive dress, all of salad,

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00:57:46,582 --> 00:57:48,614

Marc Preston: the kind of thing it's just I'm thinking

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Marc Preston: about.

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Marc Preston: I mean, you tell I haven't had anything to

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Marc Preston: eat today so far.

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Marc Preston: So, because I'm now I'm thinking about

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Marc Preston: eating one of those, but it is truly the

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Marc Preston: one of the best sandwiches I've ever had,

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Marc Preston: you know.

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Marc Preston: So my, actually, in the way they New

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00:58:00,217 --> 00:58:01,986

Marc Preston: Orleans makes it unique is the street I

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Marc Preston: used to live on an old man.

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Marc Preston: It was like the three doors down from it

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00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:07,187

Marc Preston: and literally down the street is Is

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00:58:07,247 --> 00:58:09,293

Marc Preston: somebody converted their garage into an

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Marc Preston: actual functioning bar.

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Marc Preston: So that's one of the things you find in New

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Marc Preston: Orleans.

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00:58:12,831 --> 00:58:15,287

Marc Preston: You know you're gonna have somebody In

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00:58:15,308 --> 00:58:17,075

Marc Preston: there and their garage is converted.

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00:58:17,216 --> 00:58:18,481

Marc Preston: Now people come and drink there.

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00:58:18,521 --> 00:58:21,430

Marc Preston: It's just bizarre, yeah, but um, it was a

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Marc Preston: wrap up, one of the things I love to do as

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Marc Preston: my my my quick seven questions.

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Marc Preston: As to the first one, I'm talking probably

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00:58:28,032 --> 00:58:29,816

Marc Preston: number one person on planet Earth right now

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00:58:29,836 --> 00:58:31,734

Marc Preston: when I ask this question what is your

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00:58:31,795 --> 00:58:32,825

Marc Preston: favorite comfort food?

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Andrew Zimmern: It's my grandmother's roast chicken that I

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00:58:36,014 --> 00:58:36,295

Andrew Zimmern: make.

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00:58:36,816 --> 00:58:39,383

Andrew Zimmern: Now that my father made it, then I make it,

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00:58:39,664 --> 00:58:43,134

Andrew Zimmern: and I Still eat it twice a week really a

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00:58:43,194 --> 00:58:46,529

Andrew Zimmern: whole chicken mm-hmm, with pan gravy and

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00:58:47,151 --> 00:58:49,076

Andrew Zimmern: it's I mean, it's chicken, little two and a

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00:58:49,116 --> 00:58:52,132

Andrew Zimmern: half pounder, you know, but it feeds two or

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00:58:52,172 --> 00:58:52,754

Andrew Zimmern: three people.

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00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:54,482

Andrew Zimmern: But I have to make my grandmother's onion

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00:58:54,522 --> 00:58:55,185

Andrew Zimmern: pan gravy.

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00:58:55,807 --> 00:58:58,136

Andrew Zimmern: It has to be done her way, seasoned, her

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00:58:58,197 --> 00:58:58,478

Andrew Zimmern: way.

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00:58:58,558 --> 00:59:00,104

Andrew Zimmern: Now have I refined it a little bit?

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00:59:00,204 --> 00:59:05,171

Andrew Zimmern: Sure, but I haven't chef-y did up, as some

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Andrew Zimmern: people like to say, it's still her chicken.

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Marc Preston: Where are your people from, though I've

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Marc Preston: always been curious about that Germany,

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Marc Preston: germany, okay.

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they came over here in the 1840s, so

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Andrew Zimmern: you know it's it long time ago.

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Marc Preston: Okay, cuz my word, the Ukrainians, actually

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Marc Preston: everybody, they say, you know, jews from

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Marc Preston: Europe.

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Marc Preston: They all came through New York.

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Marc Preston: No, there's a big contingent.

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Andrew Zimmern: Came through New Orleans or a mobile

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Andrew Zimmern: Alabama, or you know mine came through

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Andrew Zimmern: Charleston, south Carolina, and that's why

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00:59:30,688 --> 00:59:32,771

Andrew Zimmern: they wound up in Atlanta and then, after

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Andrew Zimmern: the Civil War, walked to New York.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, we were.

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00:59:35,817 --> 00:59:36,939

Marc Preston: We came through Galveston.

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Marc Preston: So yeah, that's it's.

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Marc Preston: It's an interesting documentary called

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00:59:40,965 --> 00:59:41,847

Marc Preston: Shalom y'all.

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00:59:41,968 --> 00:59:43,231

Marc Preston: The Odyssey is sometimes kind of funny

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Marc Preston: about all these.

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Marc Preston: Oh yeah, no, love it.

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Marc Preston: Second question I got, you got a table,

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Marc Preston: four seats, you, three other people you

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00:59:50,068 --> 00:59:51,375

Marc Preston: want to talk story for a few hours.

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Marc Preston: Who are those three people, living or not?

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Marc Preston: Who would you love to kind of get together

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Marc Preston: and just talk about life with for a while?

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Andrew Zimmern: Wow, well, I'm just gonna.

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Andrew Zimmern: I have to give myself boundaries, otherwise

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Andrew Zimmern: it's an endless.

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Andrew Zimmern: You know I'm one of those people who has

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Andrew Zimmern: collected detail for so long.

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Andrew Zimmern: I can't.

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Andrew Zimmern: It would be staggering, because I do have a

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Andrew Zimmern: historical set, but I'll just go with a

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Andrew Zimmern: contemporary set.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'd like to have dinner with David Simon,

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Andrew Zimmern: who created the wire, amongst other, in in

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01:00:27,005 --> 01:00:31,367

Andrew Zimmern: Incredible, incredible shows, james

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01:00:31,428 --> 01:00:44,115

Andrew Zimmern: Carville and David Simon, james Carville

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Andrew Zimmern: and I'll go with.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'll go with Tony Blair really okay.

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, here's why.

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Andrew Zimmern: Here's why Simon from Baltimore and and

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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant, by the way is his finest social,

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Andrew Zimmern: my favorite social commentator perhaps,

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Andrew Zimmern: with his work.

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Marc Preston: We did it.

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Andrew Zimmern: He did from a, also, I think, on HBO,

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Andrew Zimmern: didn't oh yeah, phenomenal, yeah, and you

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Andrew Zimmern: know James Carville because I adore him and

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Andrew Zimmern: I just would like to be able to break bread

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Andrew Zimmern: With him.

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Andrew Zimmern: But I need someone for all of us to ask

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Andrew Zimmern: questions of who would fill in blank spots

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Andrew Zimmern: and from an international, a non American

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Andrew Zimmern: perspective.

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Andrew Zimmern: And I'm lucky enough to work Sometimes with

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Andrew Zimmern: David Miliband, because I do work with the

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Andrew Zimmern: International Rescue Committee and he was

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Andrew Zimmern: Blair's secretary you know, foreign

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Andrew Zimmern: secretary and you know I get chance to talk

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Andrew Zimmern: to him sometimes and Tony Blair is just a

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Andrew Zimmern: fascinating guy but he knows where all the

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Andrew Zimmern: bodies are buried.

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Andrew Zimmern: I want to talk to him about Then and now

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Andrew Zimmern: you know Tony Blair is great because he was

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Andrew Zimmern: a.

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Marc Preston: He was the prime minister when we were

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Marc Preston: going through from.

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Marc Preston: You know different political swings in the

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Marc Preston: US but he did.

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Marc Preston: He come in right after Margaret Thatcher.

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Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember my okay.

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Announcer: So he, you know she had her thing.

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Marc Preston: She was a Reagan era, you know, but he he

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Marc Preston: kind of wrote a lot of our modern history.

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Marc Preston: You know, I could definitely but a James

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Marc Preston: Carville.

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Marc Preston: I saw him the other day.

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Marc Preston: I wish more note news folks would be

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Marc Preston: getting him on giving commentary because I

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Marc Preston: mean it's Theatrical common sense, you know

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Marc Preston: he's guys.

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Marc Preston: Just I love the way he articulates himself.

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Andrew Zimmern: He's the best.

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Marc Preston: Now next question who is your first when

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Marc Preston: you were kid?

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Marc Preston: Who was your first celebrity crush?

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Andrew Zimmern: My first celebrity crush, oh my gosh.

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, I mean not to not to put two Fine a

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Andrew Zimmern: point on it, but you know I'm 61, so the

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Andrew Zimmern: first celebrities that I ever saw that I

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Andrew Zimmern: was Attracted to were in the Playboy

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01:03:03,714 --> 01:03:10,627

Andrew Zimmern: magazine's annual movies issue, and Movies

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01:03:10,767 --> 01:03:14,575

Andrew Zimmern: you know the sex in movies issue, and so

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Andrew Zimmern: they, they always had, you know, incredible.

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Andrew Zimmern: You know that it was, and they were screen

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Andrew Zimmern: grabs of topless actresses and and, and so

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Andrew Zimmern: there were, and there were.

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean this was.

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean you have to see, this is through the

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Andrew Zimmern: lens of a 13 year old boy, right, it was

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Andrew Zimmern: which is a very vibrant lens.

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Andrew Zimmern: Yes, it is.

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Andrew Zimmern: It is a very vibrant lens and 1974

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Andrew Zimmern: Jacqueline Bissette was about as as good as

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Andrew Zimmern: it got for me at that time.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, I, yeah.

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Marc Preston: Somebody the other day brought up something

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Marc Preston: which I don't think many guys might.

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Marc Preston: I'm a little younger than you are, but I,

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Marc Preston: but somebody brought up Haley Mills.

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Marc Preston: I was like, oh man, but anyway, I was

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Marc Preston: thinking as when I was young, well, I

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Marc Preston: didn't realize shows that were shot in the

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Marc Preston: 60s.

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Marc Preston: You know, before you get a little older,

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01:04:07,726 --> 01:04:09,010

Marc Preston: you know 9, 10, 11, you know you start

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Marc Preston: realizing, oh, wait a minute, this person's

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Marc Preston: much older.

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Marc Preston: One last questions is if you're gonna be on

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Marc Preston: an island for a year, an island you love

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01:04:15,738 --> 01:04:17,505

Marc Preston: being on, but there is no streaming.

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Marc Preston: You can only bring one DVD to watch a movie,

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Marc Preston: one movie, and you can only bring one CD or

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Marc Preston: an album.

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Marc Preston: You know what?

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Marc Preston: What's that movie, what's that album I'm

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01:04:26,934 --> 01:04:28,778

Marc Preston: gonna be for you to hang on to for a year?

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Andrew Zimmern: the movies gotta be Godfather parts one and

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Andrew Zimmern: two, because they are sold together on a

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Andrew Zimmern: single DVD set.

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Andrew Zimmern: So I'm going to, I'm gonna twist, I'm gonna

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Andrew Zimmern: tweak that a little bit.

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Marc Preston: Have you seen the offer on a Paramount Plus

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Marc Preston: by chance?

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Andrew Zimmern: brilliant.

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Andrew Zimmern: It's brilliant.

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01:04:47,007 --> 01:04:51,774

Andrew Zimmern: So you know, I think that's the movie.

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Andrew Zimmern: And then For music, that is just.

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Andrew Zimmern: That's painful for someone who is such a

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Andrew Zimmern: music geek Like I'll see the guitar behind

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Andrew Zimmern: you.

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Marc Preston: Is that for decoration or do you play?

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Andrew Zimmern: I do play.

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Andrew Zimmern: That's actually a Paul McCartney Signed

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Andrew Zimmern: guitar that I got four or five years ago

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Andrew Zimmern: when he was in Minneapolis.

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Andrew Zimmern: Um yeah, it's a nice flex, right?

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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, that's my, that's my Paul

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Andrew Zimmern: McCartney autographed Guitar very nice,

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Andrew Zimmern: which I which, which I'm a big.

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Andrew Zimmern: I'm a big fan of that one.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's a baseball bat, so I'm imagining

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Marc Preston: it's.

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Marc Preston: You got the music, you got the sports you

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01:05:34,290 --> 01:05:35,979

Marc Preston: know I got that, I've got the whole thing.

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Andrew Zimmern: But you can see I I Think well, it's hard

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Andrew Zimmern: to pick up, but he signed it in silver on

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Andrew Zimmern: the black edging there.

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Andrew Zimmern: So I think I'll tell you the.

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Andrew Zimmern: This is gonna sound a little goofy, but I

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Andrew Zimmern: would go with the band's last waltz Because

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Andrew Zimmern: it's got a lot of the music that I love and

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01:06:00,394 --> 01:06:02,662

Andrew Zimmern: I can sing along with every song and it.

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01:06:02,983 --> 01:06:04,988

Andrew Zimmern: It's got quiet, tender moments and it

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01:06:05,068 --> 01:06:06,832

Andrew Zimmern: stomps like a son of a bitch when you

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Andrew Zimmern: wanted to.

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01:06:07,854 --> 01:06:09,538

Andrew Zimmern: So I'll go with the band's last waltz.

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Marc Preston: Well, yeah, I'm thinking with the area

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Marc Preston: you're going up in.

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Marc Preston: You were like I was born in 73.

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Announcer: Yeah, now so.

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Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, well, I noticed that the 70s kind of

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Andrew Zimmern: passed me by a little bit, but you were

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Andrew Zimmern: right in the thick of it, you know, as far

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Andrew Zimmern: as music, oh, I was we would go on weekends

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Andrew Zimmern: to see you know Pink Floyd, one weekend Led

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Andrew Zimmern: Zeppelin, the next weekend at the garden,

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Andrew Zimmern: and then on Thursday night You'd go see the

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Andrew Zimmern: Ramones or you know whatever other punk

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Andrew Zimmern: music.

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Marc Preston: I'm married when I saw you're, you're,

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Marc Preston: that's right, you're all the nights I saw

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Marc Preston: all the night around zero.

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Andrew Zimmern: Oh yeah, I saw all the nights of you know

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Andrew Zimmern: the clash at bonds, I mean, I mean just on

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Andrew Zimmern: and on and on.

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Andrew Zimmern: It was so you're a CBGB once or twice yeah

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Andrew Zimmern: no many, because all our older brothers and

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Andrew Zimmern: sisters of my friends would take us to

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Andrew Zimmern: those places when we were 10, 12, 13, 14.

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Andrew Zimmern: So first first Concert I saw without my

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Andrew Zimmern: parents was 72, the brown sugar tour that

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Andrew Zimmern: the Stones did.

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01:07:10,176 --> 01:07:12,967

Andrew Zimmern: Because my friend's older sister took us In

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01:07:13,007 --> 01:07:15,154

Andrew Zimmern: where Mick was riding the giant inflatable

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01:07:15,215 --> 01:07:18,353

Andrew Zimmern: tongue On stage and I thought I died and

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Andrew Zimmern: went to heaven.

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Marc Preston: I do envy folks a little bit.

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01:07:21,192 --> 01:07:22,896

Marc Preston: You know the folks are a little bit older

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01:07:25,285 --> 01:07:27,471

Marc Preston: Gen X, you know, to a little bit older than

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Marc Preston: that they got.

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01:07:28,073 --> 01:07:29,457

Marc Preston: They got a good musical hit there.

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01:07:30,446 --> 01:07:32,592

Marc Preston: Now the next question is if you're gonna be

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Marc Preston: from the time you wake up, time you go to

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Marc Preston: sleep, definition of a perfect day, or the

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Marc Preston: component parts for you.

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Marc Preston: You're like this was a good day.

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Marc Preston: What's that for you?

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, I had one Friday I went to.

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Andrew Zimmern: I went to work, had a decent morning,

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01:07:48,865 --> 01:07:49,809

Andrew Zimmern: bugged out and did something I really

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Andrew Zimmern: wanted to do.

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01:07:51,557 --> 01:07:53,003

Andrew Zimmern: It spent a couple hours at the State Fair

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01:07:53,044 --> 01:07:54,848

Andrew Zimmern: but doing Something to help advance a cause

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01:07:54,868 --> 01:07:55,932

Andrew Zimmern: and was stumping with a candidate here and

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01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:01,770

Andrew Zimmern: Went home, took a nap on the couch because

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Andrew Zimmern: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al

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Andrew Zimmern: Franken back?

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Marc Preston: Is that my friend?

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01:08:07,986 --> 01:08:09,308

Marc Preston: I don't interrupt you, but can we get Al

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Marc Preston: Franken back?

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01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:11,272

Marc Preston: Is that possible?

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Marc Preston: We're gonna try.

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Andrew Zimmern: I just interviewed him this morning for my

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Andrew Zimmern: sub stack.

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01:08:16,246 --> 01:08:17,993

Andrew Zimmern: Yeah, andrew Zimmer dot sub stack.

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01:08:18,034 --> 01:08:20,283

Andrew Zimmern: Calm, we're starting to do a lot of video

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01:08:20,323 --> 01:08:20,845

Andrew Zimmern: interviews now.

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Andrew Zimmern: I just talked to Al.

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Andrew Zimmern: He's a friend of mine, so we just we just

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Andrew Zimmern: spent some time with him this morning.

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Andrew Zimmern: One of our first guests Took a little nap

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Andrew Zimmern: with the dogs and woke up to find out that

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Andrew Zimmern: some musician friends of mine we're coming

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01:08:32,167 --> 01:08:35,580

Andrew Zimmern: into town and landing at seven and I just

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Andrew Zimmern: convinced them to come over for dinner and

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Andrew Zimmern: I made everyone a big meal and sat around

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Andrew Zimmern: bullshitting with them till Midnight and it

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Andrew Zimmern: was.

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Andrew Zimmern: I went to bed that night just thinking well,

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Andrew Zimmern: that was a perfect day, what's not?

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Marc Preston: great in the great, it's just you, just

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Marc Preston: when you can stop and go.

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Marc Preston: Okay, this is I.

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Marc Preston: When I was out of town with my kids few

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Marc Preston: weeks ago.

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Marc Preston: I just had one of those moments, just like

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Marc Preston: this is just perfect.

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Marc Preston: I'm loving.

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Marc Preston: I want to kind of breathe this in Now.

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Marc Preston: Last two questions.

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Marc Preston: And if you weren't doing this, doing things

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Marc Preston: like what you said, the United Nations, or

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Marc Preston: with all the things you do and with

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Marc Preston: creatively what you're doing, what would

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Marc Preston: your gig be?

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01:09:09,471 --> 01:09:11,439

Marc Preston: What do you think would bring you

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01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:13,125

Marc Preston: satisfaction if you weren't doing what

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Marc Preston: you're doing now?

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Andrew Zimmern: Teaching history or art history.

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Andrew Zimmern: I thought that's what I wanted to do at one

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Andrew Zimmern: point.

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Marc Preston: Oh, don't you think you're doing that

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01:09:19,168 --> 01:09:20,371

Marc Preston: indirectly right now?

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Andrew Zimmern: You know, yeah no for sure, but that I

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Andrew Zimmern: would have done it formerly A lot of people.

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01:09:26,156 --> 01:09:27,843

Andrew Zimmern: But I only came to this later in life.

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01:09:27,944 --> 01:09:29,932

Andrew Zimmern: So people say, well, wouldn't it be serving,

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01:09:29,952 --> 01:09:30,895

Andrew Zimmern: you know, public office?

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01:09:31,437 --> 01:09:33,345

Andrew Zimmern: And the fact of the matter is that I've

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Andrew Zimmern: said on many interviews many times that at

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Andrew Zimmern: whatever time this career of mine enters a

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Andrew Zimmern: different phase, you know I would like to

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Andrew Zimmern: run for public office.

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Andrew Zimmern: I talk about it all the time.

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Andrew Zimmern: Then, privately, all of my advisors and my

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Andrew Zimmern: politician friends tell me well, you can

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Andrew Zimmern: make as much influence from not being in

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01:09:57,291 --> 01:09:59,079

Andrew Zimmern: public office, but you know doing what you

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Andrew Zimmern: do from the sideline.

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Marc Preston: I think you can make people think.

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Marc Preston: So, most certainly, we'll see, and I think

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Marc Preston: you've done a wonderful job of that.

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01:10:05,525 --> 01:10:06,691

Marc Preston: I mean, you make people think, they

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Marc Preston: contemplate, they put, they put themselves

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Marc Preston: in the shoes of the people, because that's

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Marc Preston: one of the things I think you're I love in

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01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,363

Marc Preston: your storytelling.

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Marc Preston: This is not it sounds like I'm stroking you,

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01:10:15,030 --> 01:10:18,623

Marc Preston: I'm certainly not but you putting someone

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Marc Preston: who's sitting on their sofa drinking a beer

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Marc Preston: as close as you can to being in the

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Marc Preston: situation you're in, so there could be that

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Marc Preston: kind of kind of indirect experience.

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Marc Preston: You know, and I think that that's.

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Marc Preston: I think you can wield a lot more influence,

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Marc Preston: because I just think you can.

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Marc Preston: I would.

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Marc Preston: I'm selfish, I don't want you to stop

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Marc Preston: making your show, so, but the last question

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Marc Preston: I got for you, if you were to jump in your

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Marc Preston: DeLorean cruise back, there's 16 year old

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Marc Preston: Andrew.

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Marc Preston: You got a piece of advice wisdom.

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Marc Preston: It could either get you on a better track

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Marc Preston: in that moment or maybe to make life even

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Marc Preston: better for 16 year old you.

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Marc Preston: But regardless, what is that piece of

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Marc Preston: advice you're going to offer yourself at 16?

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Andrew Zimmern: The most important thing that I've learned

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Andrew Zimmern: in the last 45 years of my life is the

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Andrew Zimmern: following sentence I don't know to the

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Andrew Zimmern: answer.

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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know the answer to that.

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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?

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Andrew Zimmern: I spent the first 30 years of my life,

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Andrew Zimmern: first 40 years of my life, so obsessed with

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Andrew Zimmern: self, so sure that I knew the answer to

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Andrew Zimmern: everything.

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Andrew Zimmern: And in the last 20 years of my sobriety and

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Andrew Zimmern: I've been sober 30 plus years, but it's

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Andrew Zimmern: really the last 20 years I have learned the

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Andrew Zimmern: most valuable sentence in the in my life is

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Andrew Zimmern: I don't know.

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Andrew Zimmern: Can you help me?

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Marc Preston: I really like that.

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Marc Preston: I think being able to ask questions you

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Marc Preston: have to kind of put your ego to the side,

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Marc Preston: but when you talked about your history and

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Marc Preston: substance abuse, the odds were not stacked

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Marc Preston: in your favor at all.

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Marc Preston: And again I look like Anthony Bourdain the

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Marc Preston: same thing and I had a unique perspective

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Marc Preston: because I grew up in Dallas as a kid and

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Marc Preston: the latchkey kid in the 80s.

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Marc Preston: There is a lot of high roll and you know,

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Marc Preston: let's say I was like I definitely don't

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Marc Preston: want that it's life record Now, that kind

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Marc Preston: of a thing.

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Marc Preston: Then I ended up working in radio and

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Marc Preston: entertainment and I found a lot of my

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Marc Preston: favorite people had had a story arc where,

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Marc Preston: yeah, they're okay now, like a got him

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Marc Preston: shadow Stevens you remember it was American

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Marc Preston: Top 40.

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Marc Preston: Oh, sure you know and I look at where

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Marc Preston: they're at now and there's, there's so much

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Marc Preston: wisdom, there's so much to be learned by

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Marc Preston: somebody.

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Marc Preston: When you have seen, you know bookends of

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Marc Preston: what things could be like in life, and I

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Marc Preston: had an extra appreciation, enhanced

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Marc Preston: appreciation, for those that could tell a

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Marc Preston: story about their recovery, Because I think

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Marc Preston: they were some of the most wise people that

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Marc Preston: I ever met.

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Marc Preston: Some of the best wisdom I've ever gotten

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Marc Preston: has been through people that have been

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Marc Preston: through it, you know.

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Marc Preston: So I think that that's that's one of those

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Marc Preston: things that I really have come to

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Marc Preston: appreciate over the years is like I didn't

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Marc Preston: have to take the ride, but I most certainly

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Marc Preston: appreciate yours.

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Marc Preston: You know if that makes any sense, hopefully.

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Andrew Zimmern: Yep absolutely.

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Marc Preston: One last question before we go what's going

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Marc Preston: on with delis in America?

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Marc Preston: Is it my imagination?

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Marc Preston: Or everywhere I go is like they're less and

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Marc Preston: less Jewish delis.

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Andrew Zimmern: There are and the ones that are being

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Andrew Zimmern: opened are our modernist takes on them.

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Andrew Zimmern: Some excellent, some excellent.

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Andrew Zimmern: However we are, we have lost during covid

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Andrew Zimmern: so many and we continue to lose so many

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Andrew Zimmern: delis all the time, and they are.

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Andrew Zimmern: They will be a thing of eras past.

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Marc Preston: I mean, you think so.

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Marc Preston: Do you really think like?

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Andrew Zimmern: yeah, I think places like Katz's will hang

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Andrew Zimmern: on, and you know, you know like canter is a

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Andrew Zimmern: lot of other yeah exactly.

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Andrew Zimmern: I mean, you know that will still be there,

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Andrew Zimmern: but we were losing a lot of those, those

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Andrew Zimmern: little delis around the country that are

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Andrew Zimmern: exquisite and I just think it's.

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Andrew Zimmern: They can't compete and people don't want to

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Andrew Zimmern: pay.

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Andrew Zimmern: They don't want to pay $30.

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Andrew Zimmern: Well, they don't want to pay $30 for a

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Andrew Zimmern: sandwich, and I'm not talking about, you

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Andrew Zimmern: know, overstuffed.

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Andrew Zimmern: It's just that the quality of the product

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Andrew Zimmern: has to be very, very high and it takes just

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Andrew Zimmern: as much labor, if not more, to create that.

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Andrew Zimmern: Then I mean, look, every these days, with

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Andrew Zimmern: the restaurant economy and the economy in

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Andrew Zimmern: general being the way it is, every famous

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Andrew Zimmern: chef in the world wants to open a pizzeria.

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Andrew Zimmern: Why?

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Andrew Zimmern: It's the best food cost item that you can

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Andrew Zimmern: make, you know, and delis are not the best

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Andrew Zimmern: food cost items you can make.

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Marc Preston: Well, andrew, again your generosity, your

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Marc Preston: time.

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Marc Preston: I so enjoy this chat and I wish you nothing

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01:14:39,726 --> 01:14:41,070

Marc Preston: but the best next time you're in New

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Marc Preston: Orleans.

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Andrew Zimmern: R&O's and then Diney's next door.

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Marc Preston: You hit the local note right there Double

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01:14:45,994 --> 01:14:47,260

Marc Preston: up Lunch one, lunch two?

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Marc Preston: It would definitely be on me.

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01:14:48,505 --> 01:14:49,267

Marc Preston: It'd be my pleasure.

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01:14:49,287 --> 01:14:51,072

Marc Preston: But, my friend, all the best to you and

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01:14:51,092 --> 01:14:52,977

Marc Preston: looking forward to your new show.

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01:14:53,097 --> 01:14:54,389

Marc Preston: On is the outdoor channel.

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Andrew Zimmern: Yep Wild Game Kitchen Premieres September

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Andrew Zimmern: 19th at nine o'clock Eastern.

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Marc Preston: Family dinner, of course, on Magnolia,

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01:15:02,498 --> 01:15:04,044

Marc Preston: loving your stuff, my friend, have yourself

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01:15:04,104 --> 01:15:04,826

Marc Preston: a killer rest of day.

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Andrew Zimmern: Hopefully this is another one of those

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Andrew Zimmern: great days for you, me too Take it easy,

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Andrew Zimmern: and for you as well.

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Marc Preston: Well, there you go, andrew Zimmer.

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Marc Preston: That was.

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Marc Preston: That was a lot of fun.

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Marc Preston: As I mentioned at the beginning of the show,

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01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:19,857

Marc Preston: I didn't have anything to eat, so you know,

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Marc Preston: talking food for an hour with Andrew was.

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Marc Preston: It was fun, but, man, I was hungry when I

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Marc Preston: was done Really enjoyed the opportunity to

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Marc Preston: sit down with him.

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Marc Preston: The new show's Magnolia Network you can

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Marc Preston: catch family dinner, as well as the show

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Marc Preston: Wild Game Kitchen, which is on the outdoor

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Marc Preston: channel, and, of course, the Netflix reboot

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Marc Preston: of Iron Chef.

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01:15:41,225 --> 01:15:43,370

Marc Preston: You can check out Andrew as he's one of the

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Marc Preston: judges A gig.

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Marc Preston: I've always wanted to have A judge on Iron

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Marc Preston: Chef.

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Marc Preston: That seems like it would be a lot of fun.

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01:15:50,572 --> 01:15:52,357

Marc Preston: Also got to throw a quick happy birthday to

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01:15:52,437 --> 01:15:54,731

Marc Preston: my son, zachary Just turned 18.

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Marc Preston: So so incredibly proud of him.

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01:15:57,178 --> 01:16:00,267

Marc Preston: Now I got two of those adult type offspring.

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01:16:00,407 --> 01:16:03,713

Marc Preston: So that means that to college kids they're

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01:16:03,733 --> 01:16:04,274

Marc Preston: getting older.

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01:16:04,555 --> 01:16:07,708

Marc Preston: I somehow miraculously stay the same age.

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Marc Preston: That's what I'm telling myself.

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Marc Preston: All right, don't forget to subscribe and

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Marc Preston: Of course, going to be back with another

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Marc Preston: great episode soon with somebody very

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Marc Preston: interesting.

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Marc Preston: Just going to throw it out there.

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Marc Preston: If you are a big Ghostbusters fan, check

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Marc Preston: out the next episode.

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Marc Preston: Just a little tease, if you will.

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Marc Preston: All right, that's it for me today.

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Marc Preston: I'm going to run out and grab myself a bite

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Marc Preston: to eat.

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Marc Preston: You have a very safe and awesome rest of

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Marc Preston: your day.

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Marc Preston: We'll see you next time right here on Story

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Andrew Zimmern

TV Personality | Chef | Writer | Social Justice Advocate

Andrew Zimmern is an Emmy-winning and four-time James Beard Award-winning TV personality, chef, writer and social justice advocate. As the creator, executive producer and host of the Bizarre Foods franchise, Andrew Zimmern’s Driven by Food and Emmy-winning The Zimmern List, he has devoted his life to exploring and promoting cultural acceptance, tolerance and understanding through food. In 2020, Andrew returned to television with MSNBC’s What's Eating America, and in 2021, he premiered Family Dinner on Magnolia Network. This year, you can find him judging the epic culinary battle Iron Chef: Quest for an Iron Legend on Netflix and on Outdoor Channel’s Andrew Zimmern’s Wild Game Kitchen.

A Taste of the Good—and Bad— Life
Andrew knew from a young age he wanted a career in food. After attending The Dalton School and Vassar College, he cooked in New York City restaurants for Anne Rosenzweig, Joachim Splichal and Thomas Keller, amongst others. Andrew helped open and run a dozen restaurants, and at the same time was also an addict spiraling out of control. After a year spent living on the streets, an intervention by close friends brought him to the Hazelden Foundation in Minnesota. Transforming his life around sobriety, Andrew took a job washing dishes at Minneapolis’ Café Un Deux Trois. In 1992, he was named executive chef and during his six-year tenure, turned Un Deux Trois into an awarded, national caliber restaurant.

Making Moves in the Media
Andrew's menu at Un Deux Trois drew the attention of media. Local news appearances led to regular TV… Read More