May 30, 2022

Asha Michelle Wilson | Mastering The Blinking Cursor

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Asha Michelle Wilson | Mastering The Blinking Cursor

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with Asha Michelle Wilson.  Asha is an actor, screenwriter and showrunner.  She’s written for shows such as FX’s Archer and American Horror Story, as well as Netflix’s upcoming series, Agent King.  She’s currently developing a project for Paramount+ and will be writing a series based on the movie Soap Dish.   What’s it like to develop, write and run a TV show?  We’ll talk about that and more, as we sit down to talk story with Asha Michelle Wilson!SHOW HIGHLIGHTS0:01:42 - Writing for TV vs. Movies 0:09:32 - TV Production and Color Blindness0:14:42 - What Sparks the Creative Process0:21:17 - Defining the Role of a Showrunner0:22:36 - Exploring Writing and Screenwriting0:26:57 - Preferences in Writing and Genre Inspiration0:29:40 - Writing for Established Celebrities0:34:20 - Current Shows and Personal Favorites0:39:45 - Latchkey Kids and Creativity0:45:46 - Seven QuestionsListen and subscribe on your favorite podcast app.  Also, check out the show and sign up for the newsletter at www.storyandcraftpod.com....#podcast #interview #AshaMichelleWilson #Writer #Screenwriter #Screenplay #ShowRunner #AmericanHorrorStory #AHS #Archer #ArcherFXX #FX #ParamountPlus #actor #acting #actorslife #storyandcraft #voiceover

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Every time I finish a script and then have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to start a new one the next week, I'm

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Asha Michelle Wilson: always like that last one I wrote is the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: last one I'll ever be able to write.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm never going to be able to write another

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Asha Michelle Wilson: one again.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But every other time I write another one.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go.

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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: How are you doing?

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Marc Preston: I'm Marc Preston and I'm so glad to have

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Marc Preston: you back for another episode.

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Marc Preston: If this is your first episode, hey, thanks

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Marc Preston: for checking it out.

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Marc Preston: Going to have a great one today.

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Marc Preston: Asha Michelle Wilson that is our guest.

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Marc Preston: We're talking about what it's like to

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Marc Preston: develop, write and run a television show.

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Marc Preston: You know from somebody who does that for a

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Marc Preston: living.

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Marc Preston: She also acts a little bit here and there.

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Marc Preston: Now Asha has written for TV shows like FX's

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Marc Preston: Archer and American Horror Story.

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Marc Preston: She's writing on the new Netflix show

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Marc Preston: that's going to be coming out called Agent

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Marc Preston: King, and she's developing a show right now

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Marc Preston: for Paramount Plus.

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Marc Preston: She stays very busy.

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Marc Preston: It's a great conversation about what it's

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Marc Preston: like to run a TV show.

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Marc Preston: Very interesting stuff.

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Marc Preston: Hey, don't forget Story and Craft Podcom.

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Marc Preston: That's the website.

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Marc Preston: Anything you want to know about the show,

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Marc Preston: everything you want to learn about the show

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Marc Preston: Okay, so let's get right after it.

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Marc Preston: Today it's Asha Michelle Wilson Day, right

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Marc Preston: here on Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: So how you doing today.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm doing well, Marc.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: How are you?

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Marc Preston: Fantastic.

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Marc Preston: Where are you?

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Marc Preston: Where are you joining me from today?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I am in Encino, California, in my home.

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Marc Preston: You know it's so funny.

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Marc Preston: I think I just spoke with somebody the

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Marc Preston: other day who lives in Encino.

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Marc Preston: So it's kind of a way to kind of get out of

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Marc Preston: the hustle and bustle of Can I say the

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Marc Preston: hustle and bustle I just want to phrase

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Marc Preston: this a number you use the hustle and bustle

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Marc Preston: of Los Angelesness, which in my time out

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Marc Preston: there I can appreciate the desire for a

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Marc Preston: lack of traffic.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I understand it's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Also.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The parking is way better.

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Marc Preston: So are you originally from Encino or did

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Marc Preston: you kind of gravitate out there just to be

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Well, when I first moved out here, I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: started in North Hollywood and then Studio

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Asha Michelle Wilson: City and then bought a house in Encino.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm originally from Southern Florida, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of a complete opposite side of the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I came specifically to Encino because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: just found a house that I really liked.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was really, and I needed to be as

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Asha Michelle Wilson: close as possible to any studio that I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So this felt equidistant enough, while

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Asha Michelle Wilson: still again having great parking.

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Marc Preston: Now did you head to Los Angeles for the

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Marc Preston: sake of acting, or was it writing?

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Marc Preston: Or was there a specific career goal when

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Marc Preston: like anything I can do, I want to do it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I came out here knowing for a fact that I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: wanted to write scripted television.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That was the number one thing that I knew I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I also wanted to act, but I felt like I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: felt more confident in my writing abilities

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Asha Michelle Wilson: than my acting abilities.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Coming out here and I felt like gun to my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: head.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If I could choose one, writing would be it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So that was really the impetus for coming

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Asha Michelle Wilson: out here.

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Marc Preston: You've been writing, of course, for some

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Marc Preston: different shows.

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Marc Preston: Do you find that it's more fun to work on

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Marc Preston: projects that are yours, or is it kind of

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Marc Preston: the ultimate goal for you to create your

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Marc Preston: own project and you're the writer, and then

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Marc Preston: you kind of delegate some of those duties?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Show Running has really been my number one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: goal.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I like working with other people and it is

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Asha Michelle Wilson: always fun to help somebody else make their

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dream come true.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think right now, my focus is making my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dreams come true, for lack of a better

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Asha Michelle Wilson: phrase.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I really love all of the nitty-gritty stuff

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that goes into creating your own show even

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Asha Michelle Wilson: picking out the wigs that people have to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: wear and going into the post department and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going through that whole process.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think that's where my focus is now,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: after learning a lot from working on other

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Asha Michelle Wilson: people's shows.

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Marc Preston: Now mostly and I've always wondered this as

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Marc Preston: an actor, how often as a writer do you need

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Marc Preston: to be on set or on location, Like, for

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Marc Preston: instance, you wrote on American Horror

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Marc Preston: Story and I see Scream Queens, but I know

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Marc Preston: those are shot in New Orleans, At least

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Marc Preston: some of the, I think at least one of the

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Marc Preston: seasons.

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Marc Preston: It seems like nowadays, especially after

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Marc Preston: COVID, everybody can work remotely.

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Marc Preston: As long as you've got your computer in a

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Marc Preston: phone, you can be anywhere.

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Marc Preston: Or do they like you to be there?

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Marc Preston: What's kind of the protocol for that?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It really depends on the show and the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: showrunner.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They kind of can decide how they want to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: handle things.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think specifically on, you know, american

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Horror Story.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Some seasons were shot in Orleans, many

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Asha Michelle Wilson: were shot in LA.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: We had kind of one liaison between the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: writer's room and the set.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That would go, and the writer for the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: episode would often be on set as well.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Nowadays I know there are some directors

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Asha Michelle Wilson: who stay home and or stay in their own

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I do think there is a certain energy to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: being on set that a lot of the writers that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I've spoken with and in my experience that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you just can't really beat being on set in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: a certain way.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so you know I think people have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: different preferences.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: For sure I really miss being on set and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like being on set, so that's always

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Asha Michelle Wilson: something that I love, but it really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: depends on the show.

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Marc Preston: Well, one of the things I'm curious about.

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Marc Preston: I would never profess to be a professional

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Marc Preston: screenwriter, but I like to sometimes sit

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Marc Preston: down with final was it final draft?

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Marc Preston: Is that what it is?

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Announcer: I always forget the name of the software

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Announcer: but I'll fart around with it.

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Marc Preston: But I always kind of like looking at it

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Marc Preston: from is a hobby right now and maybe one of

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Marc Preston: these days I'll sell one.

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer the TV realm?

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Marc Preston: Because I mean, really that's more of a

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Marc Preston: writer's medium, where movies are more of a

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Marc Preston: director's medium.

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer TV?

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Marc Preston: Do you prefer, you know, feature length

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Marc Preston: films, or do you even have a preference?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I used to have a strong preference to TV.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was always a TV girl and I think

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Asha Michelle Wilson: there was maybe growing up a lot of people.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If you said you wanted to work in Hollywood,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they assumed you wanted to write movies,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: because no one really thought about writing

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Asha Michelle Wilson: TV as an option in those days.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think I really dug my heels in of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: knowing that no, I want to do TV, not

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that I had to write movies.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But now, having written both, I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: enjoy both.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I I I slightly have more of a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: preference towards television because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like the longer format of telling a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: character's story through multiple episodes,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: multiple seasons and getting to see the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: supporting character's story, which you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: don't get to see as much of in a feature

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Asha Michelle Wilson: length film.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But on the flip side of it, I do think that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: features have the nice thing of just having

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that fully rounded story and you can kind

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Asha Michelle Wilson: of tell that beginning, middle end and take

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the audience on its own journey.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I would say 10% more.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I like TV storytelling more.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, there is.

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Marc Preston: I always thought it was interesting how the

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Marc Preston: two are different, you know, and how you

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Marc Preston: can cycle through different directors on a

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Marc Preston: show and it's, and after a while,

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Marc Preston: especially if the show has been on for a

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Marc Preston: while from the people I've spoken with the

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Marc Preston: actors, that is there is almost like an

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Marc Preston: ownership that they take for the character,

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Marc Preston: because it doesn't matter who's directing,

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Marc Preston: they kind of already know who they are, you

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Marc Preston: know.

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Marc Preston: So have you ever seen the Netflix show Love,

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Marc Preston: the Jet Apatow produced?

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Marc Preston: Yeah, there's kind of a whole storyline

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Marc Preston: that the lead is actually ends up being a.

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Marc Preston: I don't know if you ever really wrote.

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Marc Preston: I think you had a story treatment, I forgot,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm definitely the first to do something

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Asha Michelle Wilson: My mom really loves writing novels.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But no, no one was really in the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I feel like anyone who writes comedy in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think Mel Brooks was really a big one for

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the right way, but you know, I think Mel

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But at the same time I went to theater camp

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't think anyone ever told me that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It just felt like that was what I was going

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's usually dialogue.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's usually I have a big note-tap on my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's just funny lines that I'll come up

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Marc Preston: Thank you that you kind of validated my

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Marc Preston: Is it kind of like not just the line, but

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Marc Preston: is it then kind of evolving into what the

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Marc Preston: bigger story could be?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, for sure.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think you know there are some projects

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that I come on to that I already know what

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the story is.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know I'm brought on to them, so the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: characters are already in place.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So it's really just about fleshing them out.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But if I'm really starting something from

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Asha Michelle Wilson: scratch, let's say I have a funny

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Asha Michelle Wilson: back-and-forth between two people.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Usually within that back-and-forth there's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: some foundation of, okay, this person

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Asha Michelle Wilson: thinks like this and this person thinks

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like this.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So I can kind of flesh out the characters

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Asha Michelle Wilson: from there.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm trying to think if there's an example

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that I specifically have, but I can't think

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Asha Michelle Wilson: one right now.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I think you know once I, once I have

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that, you know back and forth, and then I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: have the characters.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I sort of then flesh out the characters of,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, okay, this person said this sarcastic

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Asha Michelle Wilson: thing, why would they say that, and what's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: their character background, and the person

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Asha Michelle Wilson: who responded, same thing.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then you know, I'll kind of take it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: from there, unless I mean, there are times

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Asha Michelle Wilson: when I have a story idea that is more of a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: plot driven thing, and then I have to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: figure out, okay, who would be the most

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Asha Michelle Wilson: funny people to make this plot interesting,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: or the most you know Interesting people to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: make this plot fun.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, sometimes when I'm writing I they say

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Marc Preston: the common theory is don't cast it while

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Marc Preston: you're writing it.

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Marc Preston: But you know, in my mind when you're

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Marc Preston: writing it don't you automatically start

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Marc Preston: getting Personality traits and physicality

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Marc Preston: and things that some actor may represent.

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Marc Preston: So when you're writing, do you do that?

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Marc Preston: I'm not necessarily you're casting it, but

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Marc Preston: kind of where you can have a visualization

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Marc Preston: in your head of who's saying these words.

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Marc Preston: You know, do you do that?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Every so often it depends on the project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: There there was a project that I wrote very

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Asha Michelle Wilson: specifically with myself and a British

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Asha Michelle Wilson: actor comedian in mind, and when I was in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: London last year I met with him and now

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Asha Michelle Wilson: he's on the project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So sometimes it does work out, yes.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Um other times, you know, I think there are

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Asha Michelle Wilson: some projects where I've Written it with a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: specific actor in mind and then within the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: next year the actor becomes so huge that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they I'm sure they are Booked out for four

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Asha Michelle Wilson: years and I'm like who knows if they'll be

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Asha Michelle Wilson: able to do this project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So you know, it could go both ways, but I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: do think it can help to have a type in mind,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, even if it's not physically, then if

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it's just someone who you know can do a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: certain kind of comedy, like I think, you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: know, the style of comedy that Tiffany

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Haddish does is very different than the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: style of comedy that, let's say, issa Rae

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Asha Michelle Wilson: does.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know they have different styles and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: different ways of speaking in different

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Asha Michelle Wilson: mannerisms and if I was writing a character,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you know, keeping in mind the way that one

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Asha Michelle Wilson: speaks over the other might just help make

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the read more interesting of someone

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Asha Michelle Wilson: reading that script or sending it to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: someone make, really making it feel like,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: oh, this is a character who I can

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Asha Michelle Wilson: understand, the way they speak and the way

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Asha Michelle Wilson: their comedy is coming through, because you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: had someone in mind.

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Marc Preston: Now I got a question is an actor and I

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Marc Preston: think I want to ask this question on behalf

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Marc Preston: of many other actors why are there so many

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Marc Preston: rewrites?

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Announcer: You know what?

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Marc Preston: exactly is the impetus for the rewrite good?

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Marc Preston: Because if you're kind of day of, you know

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Marc Preston: you're shooting a scene, is it you know?

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Marc Preston: Is it just you have a lot of chefs in the

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Marc Preston: kitchen sometimes, or is it that it's a

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Marc Preston: constant creative process?

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Marc Preston: Something maybe sparks like, oh gosh,

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Marc Preston: before they did, let me, let me, let me

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Marc Preston: throw this idea out there.

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Marc Preston: Or is it just driven that somebody in the

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Marc Preston: production chain says, hey, let's, let's

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Marc Preston: change this up a little bit?

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Marc Preston: When you see rewrites or request for

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Marc Preston: rewrites, or when they come in, what's what

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Marc Preston: really is the impetus for it typically?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, I think.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think, when it comes to rewrites, the two

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Asha Michelle Wilson: most important things are you need them to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like it enough to spend money to make it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and you need to like it to care enough to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: make it.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And some, you know you have to keep those

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Asha Michelle Wilson: things in balance and I think there are

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Asha Michelle Wilson: often a lot of voices between actors,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: producers, directors, even sometimes, you

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Asha Michelle Wilson: know, the Production manager could be like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: can we make this?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know a less expensive location?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, can we use one of our standing

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Asha Michelle Wilson: sets, can we?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You know a second AD is gonna be calling

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you asking questions about that.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so I think there are a lot of reasons

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Asha Michelle Wilson: why things get rewritten.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think in the earlier steps of the process

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and the sort of development stages, things

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Asha Michelle Wilson: get rewritten because you want the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: executives to like it enough to push it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: forward, and you know.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then once you get more people on board,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you know, sometimes a director will come on

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Asha Michelle Wilson: board and have a great idea for a character

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Asha Michelle Wilson: moment.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That happened to me recently, um, and so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that caused a rewrite.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then an actor has come on board for a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project and that happened on a different

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project once where they were like oh, this

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Asha Michelle Wilson: situation that you wrote for my character

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Asha Michelle Wilson: actually happened to me in real life.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Do you mind adding a few lines or pieces of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dialogue based on the real situation?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was like, oh yeah, because that's very

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Asha Michelle Wilson: funny and it's gonna be more true to you.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But then, once you actually get into

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Asha Michelle Wilson: production, a lot of those changes tend to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: be ways to make it less expensive, whether

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it's, like I said, moving something onto a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: set, or you know, we can't get that indoor

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Asha Michelle Wilson: location.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Can it be an exterior?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Or you know, you wrote this as day, can it

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Asha Michelle Wilson: be night or vice versa, and that usually

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Asha Michelle Wilson: tends to be the bigger changes.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, that's got to be rough sometimes,

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Marc Preston: because you know when you change one piece

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Marc Preston: it affects everything down the line

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Marc Preston: sometimes.

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Marc Preston: So you got to think, okay, where did this

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Marc Preston: go?

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Marc Preston: And you know that's, maybe that's when

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Marc Preston: you're working in a team.

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Marc Preston: That makes it a little bit easier because

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Marc Preston: somebody may catch it and go hey, by the

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Marc Preston: way, if we, if we change it tonight, then

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Marc Preston: the very next couple few scenes or it may

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Marc Preston: do something.

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Marc Preston: But for somebody who's not really

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Marc Preston: acquainted, what or even how do you define

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Marc Preston: showrunner?

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Marc Preston: What is a showrunner in your mind?

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Marc Preston: They're, they're Creative and business and

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Marc Preston: whatever responsibility in the process of

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Marc Preston: getting a show, getting a show made.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: In the simplest terms, a showrunner is an

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Asha Michelle Wilson: executive producer and the head writer of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the writers room of the show.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They're often not always the person who

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Asha Michelle Wilson: created the show, who initially came up

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Asha Michelle Wilson: with the concept or was brought onto the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: project.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Sometimes they can be someone else that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: came in to help shepherd the project along,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: but I think you know in More of like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: metaphorical terms, they are kind of the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: captain of the ship.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think the tone of a set and of a writer's

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Asha Michelle Wilson: room is brought on by the showrunner.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: The people who are hired are often friends

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Asha Michelle Wilson: or past co-workers of the showrunner, and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: so they really do set the bar for how

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Asha Michelle Wilson: things are going to be run.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They're running the show, and so a lot of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the decisions that are made On a show when

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you watch it and you're like you know when

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Asha Michelle Wilson: it comes to the costumes or who was cast or

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Asha Michelle Wilson: what location it was or whatever are Often

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Asha Michelle Wilson: times the showrunner's choices.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They can also be the network execs choices,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to be fair, but you would want it to be the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: showrunner because that's their vision.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's being made most of the time.

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Marc Preston: I think writing has got to be one of those

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Marc Preston: real, like any writer, anything like that,

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Marc Preston: where you're just sitting, you blank page

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Marc Preston: Well, it's really a blank blinking cursor,

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Marc Preston: you know, on a screen, and it's all.

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Marc Preston: It's got to be really a lot of

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Marc Preston: self-starting, a lot of motivation Starting

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Marc Preston: internally, which begs the question you

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Marc Preston: know this is almost like homework, at least.

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Marc Preston: Is it?

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Marc Preston: Were you good in school?

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Marc Preston: I mean, was school like your jam?

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Marc Preston: I mean, is that?

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Marc Preston: Were you a creative writer in school?

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Marc Preston: Is this where are?

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Marc Preston: Were you just like a daydreamer?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was a little bit of both, I think I.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I always wanted, I loved TV and I loved

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Asha Michelle Wilson: escaping through the world of TV.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I and I was good in school.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I, I think, looking back on it at the time,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was harder on myself.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was like, oh, I was never good.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And like math and science, my mom was like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: you got solid A's and B's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't know what you're talking about, but

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Asha Michelle Wilson: maybe I just didn't like it that much.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But, um, yeah, I think it's.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: It's funny.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: You say the thing about the blinking cursor.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was just telling a friend the other day I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: was like every time I finish a script and

695

00:23:33,861 --> 00:23:35,811

Asha Michelle Wilson: then have to start a new one the next week,

696

00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:37,880

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm always like that last one I wrote is

697

00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:40,064

Asha Michelle Wilson: the last one I'll ever be able to write.

698

00:23:40,184 --> 00:23:41,647

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm never gonna be able to read another one

699

00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:41,948

Asha Michelle Wilson: again.

700

00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:42,629

Asha Michelle Wilson: That was it.

701

00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:45,054

Asha Michelle Wilson: But every other time I read another one.

702

00:23:45,462 --> 00:23:48,136

Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think and I think I was a little bit

703

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like that in school I think the blank page

704

00:23:50,704 --> 00:23:54,253

Asha Michelle Wilson: can be quite daunting, but I really like

705

00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,988

Asha Michelle Wilson: Connecting with people.

706

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I felt that same way, like I said, in

707

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Asha Michelle Wilson: school it was.

708

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was on, you know, the newspaper and the

709

00:24:00,429 --> 00:24:02,335

Asha Michelle Wilson: yearbook and high school theater and, you

710

00:24:02,355 --> 00:24:03,760

Asha Michelle Wilson: know, student councils and all of that.

711

00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,445

Asha Michelle Wilson: I liked working with people and talking

712

00:24:05,465 --> 00:24:07,390

Asha Michelle Wilson: with people and connecting with them and I

713

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think TV is now my way to do that, in which

714

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I get paid.

715

00:24:12,681 --> 00:24:14,950

Marc Preston: Well, did you go to college for this, or

716

00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:15,753

Marc Preston: where did you go?

717

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to college.

718

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Marc Preston: Where'd you go?

719

00:24:17,259 --> 00:24:19,531

Asha Michelle Wilson: Yes, I went to Elon University in North

720

00:24:19,571 --> 00:24:22,704

Asha Michelle Wilson: Carolina liberal arts school and I studied

721

00:24:22,784 --> 00:24:24,729

Asha Michelle Wilson: a major that no longer exists there, that

722

00:24:24,769 --> 00:24:26,373

Asha Michelle Wilson: was media arts and entertainment.

723

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They renamed it.

724

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They renamed it because they realized it

725

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Asha Michelle Wilson: didn't cover enough.

726

00:24:32,941 --> 00:24:35,227

Asha Michelle Wilson: But I minored in narrative cinema because

727

00:24:35,247 --> 00:24:37,072

Asha Michelle Wilson: again it was like, oh, you can only do film.

728

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But my senior year I convinced the Dean of

729

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Communications to let me do an independent

730

00:24:43,439 --> 00:24:45,906

Asha Michelle Wilson: study In which I just read books about TV

731

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and watched TV and wrote a bunch of pilots

732

00:24:48,512 --> 00:24:50,122

Asha Michelle Wilson: and specs really cool, that's.

733

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That's like.

734

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Thank you.

735

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Marc Preston: I think a lot of people in different

736

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Marc Preston: creative careers.

737

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Marc Preston: I don't say that they know Everything that

738

00:24:57,242 --> 00:24:58,446

Marc Preston: they need to learn, but they know where to

739

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Marc Preston: start looking and kind of, you know, be

740

00:25:00,192 --> 00:25:01,979

Marc Preston: curious and just you know, as a

741

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Marc Preston: screenwriter, I mean, I'm assuming a few

742

00:25:03,725 --> 00:25:05,962

Marc Preston: folks are gonna listen to this who Want to

743

00:25:05,982 --> 00:25:07,930

Marc Preston: do that or are already doing it.

744

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Marc Preston: I think the last one I read I didn't

745

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Marc Preston: actually read it.

746

00:25:10,881 --> 00:25:12,445

Marc Preston: I I'm actually looking at it right now, but

747

00:25:12,646 --> 00:25:13,628

Marc Preston: I bought the book.

748

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Marc Preston: Then I got the audiobook because I was.

749

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Marc Preston: You know, I'm lazy, apparently this save

750

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Marc Preston: the cat.

751

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Marc Preston: Oh yes, what are some of your favorite

752

00:25:19,884 --> 00:25:21,167

Marc Preston: screenwriting books?

753

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Marc Preston: If you're gonna give like a top three or

754

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Marc Preston: something for people to dive into, you know,

755

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Marc Preston: I Would say for for movie writing.

756

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Save the cat is great.

757

00:25:31,144 --> 00:25:33,130

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think it's a really great baseline of

758

00:25:33,190 --> 00:25:35,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: like Knowing which tent poles you have to

759

00:25:35,869 --> 00:25:37,618

Asha Michelle Wilson: hit in a story and how to build that

760

00:25:37,678 --> 00:25:40,429

Asha Michelle Wilson: structure For a fun one.

761

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Asha Michelle Wilson: That is not necessarily how to write a

762

00:25:42,959 --> 00:25:45,508

Asha Michelle Wilson: story, but I think says a lot about TV, tv

763

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Asha Michelle Wilson: writing.

764

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Kristen Newman, I think, is her name, wrote

765

00:25:49,761 --> 00:25:51,507

Asha Michelle Wilson: what I was doing while you were breeding,

766

00:25:51,968 --> 00:25:54,015

Asha Michelle Wilson: which is about her kind of travel

767

00:25:54,055 --> 00:25:55,740

Asha Michelle Wilson: adventures while also being a TV writer,

768

00:25:56,202 --> 00:25:57,587

Asha Michelle Wilson: and I think there's a lot of behind the

769

00:25:57,647 --> 00:26:00,643

Asha Michelle Wilson: scenes of Working in this industry that she

770

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Asha Michelle Wilson: talks about and along with her other

771

00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,474

Asha Michelle Wilson: adventures that are amazing.

772

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And then I would say honestly this isn't a

773

00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:12,708

Asha Michelle Wilson: book, but I think reading as many scripts

774

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Asha Michelle Wilson: as you can that was really what I did in my

775

00:26:15,255 --> 00:26:17,081

Asha Michelle Wilson: independent study until still do a lot To

776

00:26:17,101 --> 00:26:20,822

Asha Michelle Wilson: this day is just getting my hands on, you

777

00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:23,232

Asha Michelle Wilson: know, my favorite TV scripts and movie

778

00:26:23,272 --> 00:26:26,724

Asha Michelle Wilson: scripts and seeing how they wrote Character

779

00:26:26,744 --> 00:26:28,990

Asha Michelle Wilson: descriptions and how they wrote dialogue,

780

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and it's very cool.

781

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Marc Preston: They say it's one page per minute, roughly

782

00:26:33,184 --> 00:26:35,791

Marc Preston: right, but if I maybe I think it's Quentin

783

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Marc Preston: Tarantino.

784

00:26:36,396 --> 00:26:37,415

Marc Preston: I read one of his screenplays.

785

00:26:37,435 --> 00:26:39,196

Marc Preston: I looked over one of his screenplays and

786

00:26:39,216 --> 00:26:42,016

Marc Preston: there is a lot of specificity in what's

787

00:26:42,037 --> 00:26:43,595

Marc Preston: supposed to be happening on the screen and

788

00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,001

Marc Preston: so of course that's gonna make the script

789

00:26:45,061 --> 00:26:46,399

Marc Preston: fatter, you know, because there's so much

790

00:26:46,419 --> 00:26:48,240

Marc Preston: description, but I kind of like that as an

791

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Marc Preston: actor.

792

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Marc Preston: I think that makes that kind of lets

793

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Marc Preston: theater of the mind kind of come into play.

794

00:26:52,835 --> 00:26:54,361

Marc Preston: Let you know what's happening before you

795

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Marc Preston: even get on set.

796

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Marc Preston: I know I'm kind of in the weeds on this,

797

00:26:58,855 --> 00:27:00,376

Marc Preston: but I'm kind of curious when you write, do

798

00:27:00,496 --> 00:27:03,144

Marc Preston: you put little things that are like set

799

00:27:03,184 --> 00:27:04,960

Marc Preston: dressing or the way the light is or

800

00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:07,722

Marc Preston: something that there may be characters,

801

00:27:07,802 --> 00:27:08,424

Marc Preston: mannerisms.

802

00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:09,936

Marc Preston: Do you like to put that in there or do you

803

00:27:09,956 --> 00:27:11,883

Marc Preston: like to focus mostly just on dialogue?

804

00:27:13,315 --> 00:27:15,016

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't tend to do too much of it because I

805

00:27:15,056 --> 00:27:17,416

Asha Michelle Wilson: feel like that can often step on the way

806

00:27:17,456 --> 00:27:19,216

Asha Michelle Wilson: the director might wanna do something or

807

00:27:19,236 --> 00:27:20,942

Asha Michelle Wilson: the way the actor might wanna do something.

808

00:27:21,255 --> 00:27:23,276

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, I also work in animation and I've

809

00:27:23,296 --> 00:27:25,138

Asha Michelle Wilson: written on Archer and in that, you know, I

810

00:27:25,178 --> 00:27:27,316

Asha Michelle Wilson: really have to put in, you know, certain

811

00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:29,536

Asha Michelle Wilson: fight stuff and things like that, because

812

00:27:29,556 --> 00:27:30,600

Asha Michelle Wilson: the animators need that.

813

00:27:31,215 --> 00:27:32,259

Asha Michelle Wilson: So you have to kind of say, you know, like

814

00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,060

Asha Michelle Wilson: this character clothesline's another

815

00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:35,860

Asha Michelle Wilson: character like a wrestler kind of thing.

816

00:27:36,875 --> 00:27:39,624

Asha Michelle Wilson: But in live action stuff I do it a lot less

817

00:27:39,915 --> 00:27:42,063

Asha Michelle Wilson: unless I feel like it's vital for

818

00:27:42,163 --> 00:27:43,900

Asha Michelle Wilson: understanding what's happening in the scene.

819

00:27:44,335 --> 00:27:46,483

Asha Michelle Wilson: So in terms of like the lighting kind of

820

00:27:46,543 --> 00:27:48,301

Asha Michelle Wilson: thing, there was something I was writing

821

00:27:48,341 --> 00:27:50,902

Asha Michelle Wilson: recently where a character you think

822

00:27:50,922 --> 00:27:52,878

Asha Michelle Wilson: they're gonna get attacked in a shower and

823

00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:55,215

Asha Michelle Wilson: lighting really had to be like psycho in

824

00:27:55,235 --> 00:27:57,439

Asha Michelle Wilson: the shower scene, and so I write that in

825

00:27:57,499 --> 00:27:59,758

Asha Michelle Wilson: because it does speak to how you're kind of

826

00:27:59,819 --> 00:28:01,404

Asha Michelle Wilson: visualizing it as you're reading it.

827

00:28:01,815 --> 00:28:04,775

Asha Michelle Wilson: But most of the time I stay away from it so

828

00:28:04,795 --> 00:28:06,936

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't step on the other people I will be

829

00:28:06,956 --> 00:28:08,542

Asha Michelle Wilson: collaborating with with the script.

830

00:28:08,955 --> 00:28:10,641

Marc Preston: The writing is kind of well.

831

00:28:10,661 --> 00:28:11,564

Marc Preston: It's kind of two rails.

832

00:28:11,936 --> 00:28:13,201

Marc Preston: One is you come up with this whole idea

833

00:28:13,221 --> 00:28:14,858

Marc Preston: that's yours and you've come up with it and

834

00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,397

Marc Preston: try to get you know, bought, or you come

835

00:28:17,437 --> 00:28:19,418

Marc Preston: into an existing production and you are one

836

00:28:19,538 --> 00:28:20,181

Marc Preston: of the writers.

837

00:28:20,455 --> 00:28:22,102

Marc Preston: Do you have a preference on one or the

838

00:28:22,182 --> 00:28:22,323

Marc Preston: other?

839

00:28:22,395 --> 00:28:24,000

Marc Preston: Do you like to come into something that's

840

00:28:24,121 --> 00:28:28,122

Marc Preston: already in flow and to kind of write to the

841

00:28:28,162 --> 00:28:30,396

Marc Preston: tone of what's already going on, or do you

842

00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:31,675

Marc Preston: like to kind of create your own thing and

843

00:28:31,695 --> 00:28:33,081

Marc Preston: let it, you know, focus on that.

844

00:28:34,975 --> 00:28:39,486

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, on paper they would seem kind of

845

00:28:40,757 --> 00:28:41,199

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't know.

846

00:28:41,259 --> 00:28:47,304

Asha Michelle Wilson: Actually, I think if I'm working on someone

847

00:28:47,345 --> 00:28:50,643

Asha Michelle Wilson: else's show, if it's a story or a type of

848

00:28:50,683 --> 00:28:53,096

Asha Michelle Wilson: comedy that I can really connect to, that's

849

00:28:53,297 --> 00:28:54,561

Asha Michelle Wilson: the most important thing to me.

850

00:28:55,215 --> 00:28:56,896

Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know, when it's your story, there

851

00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:58,683

Asha Michelle Wilson: is a certain passion that you have for it

852

00:28:58,815 --> 00:29:00,661

Asha Michelle Wilson: that is just can make it a little bit more

853

00:29:00,721 --> 00:29:01,223

Asha Michelle Wilson: exciting.

854

00:29:02,055 --> 00:29:05,916

Asha Michelle Wilson: So on paper I would prefer, you know, kind

855

00:29:05,976 --> 00:29:08,925

Asha Michelle Wilson: of making my own story come through.

856

00:29:09,155 --> 00:29:11,183

Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know it can be a lot harder.

857

00:29:11,275 --> 00:29:12,259

Asha Michelle Wilson: There's a lot more pressure.

858

00:29:12,339 --> 00:29:13,062

Asha Michelle Wilson: The stakes are on you.

859

00:29:13,135 --> 00:29:14,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: When you're in someone else's room it's

860

00:29:14,556 --> 00:29:16,182

Asha Michelle Wilson: like going to someone else's party.

861

00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:18,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: You're not worried if the dip is full or if

862

00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:20,796

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know someone clogs the bathroom or if

863

00:29:20,816 --> 00:29:23,400

Asha Michelle Wilson: there's not guests there, but if it's your

864

00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:26,142

Asha Michelle Wilson: party, it sounds like some very specific

865

00:29:26,475 --> 00:29:30,522

Asha Michelle Wilson: and interesting party notes, like there's a

866

00:29:30,562 --> 00:29:31,525

Asha Michelle Wilson: little thought that went into this.

867

00:29:31,575 --> 00:29:32,580

Marc Preston: Maybe that's the writer in UJ.

868

00:29:32,775 --> 00:29:33,698

Marc Preston: You don't think just party.

869

00:29:33,718 --> 00:29:34,520

Marc Preston: Okay, what's going on?

870

00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,403

Marc Preston: How full is the dip?

871

00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:38,282

Marc Preston: Specifics, somebody's having anxiety attack

872

00:29:38,375 --> 00:29:39,299

Marc Preston: because there's no plunger.

873

00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:40,216

Marc Preston: You know that's.

874

00:29:40,376 --> 00:29:50,538

Marc Preston: Um, let's say you are writing on a show and

875

00:29:50,558 --> 00:29:54,423

Marc Preston: it is a very well established celebrity, an

876

00:29:54,524 --> 00:29:55,225

Marc Preston: actor, performer.

877

00:29:55,870 --> 00:29:56,697

Marc Preston: It doesn't make it a little bit easier

878

00:29:56,717 --> 00:29:57,927

Marc Preston: because you know, like, if you're writing

879

00:29:57,948 --> 00:29:59,816

Marc Preston: for Seth Rogan or for somebody that's

880

00:29:59,916 --> 00:30:02,104

Marc Preston: really you know their tone.

881

00:30:02,124 --> 00:30:04,472

Marc Preston: Does it make it easier or harder for you to

882

00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:06,316

Marc Preston: kind of get you know down the middle and

883

00:30:06,357 --> 00:30:07,038

Marc Preston: hit the crosshairs?

884

00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:13,617

Asha Michelle Wilson: I just had this come up with a very, very

885

00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:19,612

Asha Michelle Wilson: well-known, award-winning actress, and I

886

00:30:19,732 --> 00:30:23,702

Asha Michelle Wilson: think, on one hand, let's say, if it's

887

00:30:23,762 --> 00:30:26,890

Asha Michelle Wilson: something that like, if it's a character

888

00:30:26,910 --> 00:30:28,638

Asha Michelle Wilson: that you know well, if it's not a new

889

00:30:28,679 --> 00:30:30,186

Asha Michelle Wilson: character this actress is playing, let's

890

00:30:30,226 --> 00:30:31,915

Asha Michelle Wilson: say it can make it a little easier because

891

00:30:31,935 --> 00:30:33,865

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know the baseline of it, you know the

892

00:30:33,905 --> 00:30:35,894

Asha Michelle Wilson: certain mannerisms that this character has.

893

00:30:38,253 --> 00:30:40,397

Asha Michelle Wilson: But if it's the specific actor, that can be

894

00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:43,523

Asha Michelle Wilson: a little nerve-wracking because you know

895

00:30:43,863 --> 00:30:45,813

Asha Michelle Wilson: you want it to be something that they can

896

00:30:45,873 --> 00:30:46,996

Asha Michelle Wilson: connect to and understand.

897

00:30:47,116 --> 00:30:52,475

Asha Michelle Wilson: And you know, like, yeah, I just saw the

898

00:30:52,616 --> 00:30:55,343

Asha Michelle Wilson: unbearable weight of massive talent, the

899

00:30:55,424 --> 00:30:58,132

Asha Michelle Wilson: Nicholas Cage movie and I went to a.

900

00:30:58,573 --> 00:30:59,858

Asha Michelle Wilson: It was great, I loved it.

901

00:31:00,351 --> 00:31:02,941

Asha Michelle Wilson: I went to a Q the event it was a WGA event

902

00:31:02,982 --> 00:31:04,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: and they had a Q&A with the director and

903

00:31:04,889 --> 00:31:07,238

Asha Michelle Wilson: writers afterwards and they were talking

904

00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,488

Asha Michelle Wilson: about having written this really as a love

905

00:31:09,548 --> 00:31:11,737

Asha Michelle Wilson: letter to Nick Cage, but also sending it to

906

00:31:11,797 --> 00:31:13,925

Asha Michelle Wilson: him and kind of having that worry of like

907

00:31:14,207 --> 00:31:15,813

Asha Michelle Wilson: ooh, I hope he doesn't think we're making

908

00:31:15,933 --> 00:31:16,556

Asha Michelle Wilson: fun of him.

909

00:31:17,652 --> 00:31:19,220

Asha Michelle Wilson: And I related to that because when you're

910

00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,970

Asha Michelle Wilson: writing something specifically for an actor,

911

00:31:21,973 --> 00:31:23,537

Asha Michelle Wilson: there's a fine line you have to walk.

912

00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:26,895

Asha Michelle Wilson: And so I do like it, though, because I

913

00:31:26,955 --> 00:31:29,441

Asha Michelle Wilson: think it can get again make that character

914

00:31:29,481 --> 00:31:32,837

Asha Michelle Wilson: very specific to the person, but there is

915

00:31:32,877 --> 00:31:34,441

Asha Michelle Wilson: some pressure to it as well.

916

00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:36,959

Marc Preston: Some people may allude to some of the

917

00:31:37,019 --> 00:31:39,329

Marc Preston: projects he's in, like, oh dear lord, you

918

00:31:39,349 --> 00:31:41,034

Marc Preston: give him a great script, great movie, he

919

00:31:41,094 --> 00:31:42,519

Marc Preston: knocks it out of the park every time.

920

00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:45,758

Marc Preston: You know, I think there's something like.

921

00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:47,925

Marc Preston: I'm in New Orleans and somebody once told

922

00:31:47,965 --> 00:31:50,175

Marc Preston: me that you know, because all the

923

00:31:50,215 --> 00:31:52,025

Marc Preston: cemeteries here are above ground like

924

00:31:52,066 --> 00:31:53,553

Marc Preston: crypts, you know, they're not like, they

925

00:31:53,674 --> 00:31:54,417

Marc Preston: don't weird.

926

00:31:54,490 --> 00:31:55,834

Marc Preston: I didn't think I'd discuss cemeteries on

927

00:31:55,854 --> 00:31:56,936

Marc Preston: this show ever, but here we go.

928

00:31:59,030 --> 00:32:00,514

Marc Preston: But he apparently the sea level.

929

00:32:00,534 --> 00:32:02,219

Marc Preston: You have to bury people above ground.

930

00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,353

Marc Preston: You know, if he's listening, google New

931

00:32:04,393 --> 00:32:05,757

Marc Preston: Orleans Cemetery, you'll see.

932

00:32:05,777 --> 00:32:06,359

Marc Preston: I'm not that weird.

933

00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:07,872

Marc Preston: But apparently his is.

934

00:32:07,912 --> 00:32:08,995

Marc Preston: He created one that was.

935

00:32:09,176 --> 00:32:10,439

Marc Preston: Somebody said it was a pyramid.

936

00:32:11,150 --> 00:32:12,454

Marc Preston: So whenever he dies he's like I'm like.

937

00:32:12,816 --> 00:32:14,110

Marc Preston: Some people may think what a weirdo I'm

938

00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:14,290

Marc Preston: like.

939

00:32:14,451 --> 00:32:14,851

Marc Preston: You know what?

940

00:32:15,012 --> 00:32:17,476

Marc Preston: Everything he does is just his own Nicholas

941

00:32:17,497 --> 00:32:20,542

Marc Preston: Cage creative thing you know, I'm like you,

942

00:32:20,562 --> 00:32:21,204

Marc Preston: gotta love that.

943

00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:23,034

Asha Michelle Wilson: Something the director said.

944

00:32:23,535 --> 00:32:24,618

Asha Michelle Wilson: Something the director said that I really

945

00:32:24,698 --> 00:32:27,516

Asha Michelle Wilson: liked was that they it had to be specific

946

00:32:27,556 --> 00:32:29,133

Asha Michelle Wilson: to Nick Cage, it was written for him and

947

00:32:29,173 --> 00:32:32,252

Asha Michelle Wilson: thank God he said yes, because he does have

948

00:32:32,292 --> 00:32:36,740

Asha Michelle Wilson: this wild array of film that he's done, but

949

00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,732

Asha Michelle Wilson: he also has such like universal public love

950

00:32:39,812 --> 00:32:43,100

Asha Michelle Wilson: and support and like memeification that you

951

00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:44,831

Asha Michelle Wilson: don't see in a lot of actors, and so I'm

952

00:32:44,871 --> 00:32:46,917

Asha Michelle Wilson: like, hey, I love that he has a crypt.

953

00:32:47,018 --> 00:32:47,720

Asha Michelle Wilson: That's amazing.

954

00:32:48,451 --> 00:32:51,179

Marc Preston: Now I see comedy showing up a few times.

955

00:32:52,030 --> 00:32:52,974

Marc Preston: You've mentioned you mentioned Saturday

956

00:32:52,994 --> 00:32:53,476

Marc Preston: Night Live.

957

00:32:53,650 --> 00:32:55,136

Marc Preston: I had some of the programs you've worked on.

958

00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:56,856

Marc Preston: Do you have a preference on genre?

959

00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:58,114

Marc Preston: Would you like to work on?

960

00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:02,421

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I always gravitate towards comedy.

961

00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:04,436

Asha Michelle Wilson: Usually the ideas I came up with I come up

962

00:33:04,476 --> 00:33:05,159

Asha Michelle Wilson: with I want to have.

963

00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:07,024

Asha Michelle Wilson: So if I come up with like a sci-fi idea,

964

00:33:07,064 --> 00:33:08,392

Asha Michelle Wilson: it's a sci-fi comedy, if it's fantasy,

965

00:33:08,432 --> 00:33:08,974

Asha Michelle Wilson: fantasy comedy.

966

00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:12,682

Asha Michelle Wilson: But I think, you know, after leaving horror

967

00:33:12,702 --> 00:33:14,370

Asha Michelle Wilson: story, I think I had a little bit of time

968

00:33:14,390 --> 00:33:15,735

Asha Michelle Wilson: where I was like I just want to do comedy

969

00:33:15,775 --> 00:33:16,337

Asha Michelle Wilson: and nothing else.

970

00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:18,573

Asha Michelle Wilson: But now I'm sort of coming back around to

971

00:33:18,614 --> 00:33:22,021

Asha Michelle Wilson: more genre, heavy genres in terms of like

972

00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:25,116

Asha Michelle Wilson: sci-fi, little bit of horror, fantasy sort

973

00:33:25,156 --> 00:33:28,587

Asha Michelle Wilson: of thing, just because I think there's a

974

00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:30,534

Asha Michelle Wilson: lot to explore in that world, especially

975

00:33:30,554 --> 00:33:31,377

Asha Michelle Wilson: when it comes to comedy.

976

00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:32,836

Asha Michelle Wilson: Again, you know you have Blazing Saddles

977

00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:35,438

Asha Michelle Wilson: that was a Western comedy and Spaceballs,

978

00:33:35,478 --> 00:33:37,274

Asha Michelle Wilson: space Comedy, and so I think I really love

979

00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:41,075

Asha Michelle Wilson: blending those and I also I really love a

980

00:33:41,175 --> 00:33:41,697

Asha Michelle Wilson: romance.

981

00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:44,557

Asha Michelle Wilson: That's just my ooey-gooey heart.

982

00:33:45,851 --> 00:33:48,715

Asha Michelle Wilson: I am a romantic optimist and so I like a

983

00:33:48,755 --> 00:33:49,439

Asha Michelle Wilson: happy ending.

984

00:33:50,553 --> 00:33:52,098

Asha Michelle Wilson: I like a happy ending, kiss.

985

00:33:52,750 --> 00:33:55,035

Asha Michelle Wilson: So yeah, I think those are the ones I'm

986

00:33:55,115 --> 00:33:57,320

Asha Michelle Wilson: gravitating towards most right now, which

987

00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,362

Asha Michelle Wilson: is all of them, I guess.

988

00:33:59,592 --> 00:34:01,380

Marc Preston: I mean, I guess it's a great vocation for

989

00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,308

Marc Preston: someone who's got, who's a little lady HD.

990

00:34:03,348 --> 00:34:04,413

Marc Preston: Not saying that, I mean, is the

991

00:34:04,453 --> 00:34:06,351

Marc Preston: entertainment business after all, but the

992

00:34:06,431 --> 00:34:08,621

Marc Preston: whole idea that you can go from genre to

993

00:34:08,662 --> 00:34:09,606

Marc Preston: genre, you can go to the.

994

00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:11,713

Marc Preston: If you get kind of like kind of not tired,

995

00:34:11,753 --> 00:34:13,238

Marc Preston: but you're kind of burnt on one thing,

996

00:34:13,278 --> 00:34:15,533

Marc Preston: maybe you're like oh, man I could do this

997

00:34:15,594 --> 00:34:16,999

Marc Preston: thing, though, and now you're reinspired.

998

00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:18,937

Marc Preston: So you know you're not relegated to just

999

00:34:19,037 --> 00:34:19,378

Marc Preston: one thing.

Speaker:

00:34:19,690 --> 00:34:21,875

Marc Preston: Now, as far as shows go like what's on

Speaker:

00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:24,862

Marc Preston: right now that's inspiring you or that you

Speaker:

00:34:24,882 --> 00:34:26,393

Marc Preston: just hey, it could be just something you

Speaker:

00:34:26,413 --> 00:34:27,997

Marc Preston: like watching, because you can just kind of

Speaker:

00:34:28,017 --> 00:34:29,701

Marc Preston: chill out and not even think, and you know,

Speaker:

00:34:29,721 --> 00:34:30,402

Marc Preston: what do you like watching?

Speaker:

00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:33,017

Marc Preston: Maybe the writers for the shows you think

Speaker:

00:34:33,057 --> 00:34:33,860

Marc Preston: are just excellent.

Speaker:

00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,005

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, I know everyone always talks

Speaker:

00:34:36,045 --> 00:34:37,909

Asha Michelle Wilson: about this show, but I think it's worthy of

Speaker:

00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:38,030

Asha Michelle Wilson: it.

Speaker:

00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:41,227

Asha Michelle Wilson: As Abad Elementary, I think I have a few

Speaker:

00:34:41,268 --> 00:34:42,452

Asha Michelle Wilson: mutual friends with Quinta.

Speaker:

00:34:42,532 --> 00:34:44,198

Asha Michelle Wilson: I don't really know her personally but I

Speaker:

00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,762

Asha Michelle Wilson: think, having seen her at parties and

Speaker:

00:34:45,782 --> 00:34:49,008

Asha Michelle Wilson: events and stuff, I'm just really I'm just

Speaker:

00:34:49,509 --> 00:34:52,561

Asha Michelle Wilson: in awe of how she was able to make such a

Speaker:

00:34:52,761 --> 00:34:57,753

Asha Michelle Wilson: fun, smart show that just kind of crossed

Speaker:

00:34:58,114 --> 00:35:00,158

Asha Michelle Wilson: well just across the board.

Speaker:

00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:01,922

Asha Michelle Wilson: Everybody loves it and I think that's just

Speaker:

00:35:02,403 --> 00:35:05,110

Asha Michelle Wilson: incredible and it's so great and it is

Speaker:

00:35:05,431 --> 00:35:06,573

Asha Michelle Wilson: again a heartwarming watch.

Speaker:

00:35:07,961 --> 00:35:10,907

Asha Michelle Wilson: I also I really loved the Gilded Age.

Speaker:

00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,776

Asha Michelle Wilson: I just enjoyed watching that story and the

Speaker:

00:35:15,796 --> 00:35:19,710

Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of escapism of it was fun and I'm

Speaker:

00:35:19,730 --> 00:35:20,472

Asha Michelle Wilson: trying to think if there's any.

Speaker:

00:35:20,733 --> 00:35:22,859

Asha Michelle Wilson: And I'm a sucker for adult animation.

Speaker:

00:35:22,879 --> 00:35:24,303

Asha Michelle Wilson: I love a Bob's Burgers.

Speaker:

00:35:25,025 --> 00:35:26,850

Asha Michelle Wilson: I loved Archery before I wrote on it and

Speaker:

00:35:26,890 --> 00:35:27,512

Asha Michelle Wilson: still love it.

Speaker:

00:35:27,781 --> 00:35:29,189

Marc Preston: Really Well, that's got to be kind of cool

Speaker:

00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:30,759

Marc Preston: to like something and then you show up in

Speaker:

00:35:30,779 --> 00:35:31,845

Marc Preston: the room and like, oh, I'm one of the

Speaker:

00:35:31,905 --> 00:35:32,650

Marc Preston: people doing it.

Speaker:

00:35:32,911 --> 00:35:34,138

Marc Preston: I remember I used to watch Family Guy.

Speaker:

00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:34,701

Marc Preston: Back in the day.

Speaker:

00:35:34,741 --> 00:35:36,347

Marc Preston: My kids used to call it Daddy Cartoon.

Speaker:

00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:38,233

Marc Preston: Now it's like.

Speaker:

00:35:38,695 --> 00:35:40,902

Marc Preston: Now they love watching it and of course, as

Speaker:

00:35:40,922 --> 00:35:43,130

Marc Preston: teenage older teenagers they get far much

Speaker:

00:35:43,191 --> 00:35:43,773

Marc Preston: more of the humor.

Speaker:

00:35:44,816 --> 00:35:46,382

Marc Preston: But you know, you mentioned something about

Speaker:

00:35:46,422 --> 00:35:47,486

Marc Preston: sci-fi or fantasy.

Speaker:

00:35:47,547 --> 00:35:50,377

Marc Preston: Have you caught Outer Range on?

Speaker:

00:35:50,458 --> 00:35:52,285

Marc Preston: I think it's on Amazon Prime, josh Brolin.

Speaker:

00:35:52,767 --> 00:35:53,349

Asha Michelle Wilson: I haven't.

Speaker:

00:35:53,851 --> 00:35:55,196

Marc Preston: It's one of those shows like you're

Speaker:

00:35:55,216 --> 00:35:56,401

Marc Preston: watching going okay, all right, they're

Speaker:

00:35:56,421 --> 00:35:57,023

Marc Preston: going a little bit here.

Speaker:

00:35:57,264 --> 00:35:59,050

Marc Preston: No, like you're like holy shit, okay.

Speaker:

00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:02,582

Marc Preston: This is a thing I always like being taken

Speaker:

00:36:02,642 --> 00:36:04,728

Marc Preston: out, caught off guard, like I didn't expect

Speaker:

00:36:04,748 --> 00:36:05,230

Marc Preston: something.

Speaker:

00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:07,241

Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh, I fully understand that One of the

Speaker:

00:36:07,301 --> 00:36:08,825

Asha Michelle Wilson: shows that was actually probably my

Speaker:

00:36:08,886 --> 00:36:10,851

Asha Michelle Wilson: favorite show of this year so far was

Speaker:

00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:11,292

Asha Michelle Wilson: Reacher.

Speaker:

00:36:12,341 --> 00:36:13,787

Announcer: I loved Reacher that was great and I think

Speaker:

00:36:13,807 --> 00:36:15,153

Announcer: it really surprised me.

Speaker:

00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:18,003

Asha Michelle Wilson: I loved it and I think I really was along

Speaker:

00:36:18,043 --> 00:36:18,564

Asha Michelle Wilson: for the ride.

Speaker:

00:36:18,605 --> 00:36:20,329

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was really caught off guard by a lot of

Speaker:

00:36:20,349 --> 00:36:22,386

Asha Michelle Wilson: the elements of it and I just I think about

Speaker:

00:36:22,406 --> 00:36:22,849

Asha Michelle Wilson: that show a lot.

Speaker:

00:36:22,869 --> 00:36:23,754

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm surprised I didn't come in my head

Speaker:

00:36:23,775 --> 00:36:23,915

Asha Michelle Wilson: first.

Speaker:

00:36:23,935 --> 00:36:24,700

Asha Michelle Wilson: That is so funny.

Speaker:

00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,364

Marc Preston: You said that because I saw that and I was

Speaker:

00:36:26,384 --> 00:36:27,848

Marc Preston: like there's not.

Speaker:

00:36:27,909 --> 00:36:29,361

Marc Preston: It's not just the way it's written, but

Speaker:

00:36:29,381 --> 00:36:31,090

Marc Preston: there's kind of a rhythm and a cadence to

Speaker:

00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:32,116

Marc Preston: how the lines are delivered.

Speaker:

00:36:32,156 --> 00:36:33,763

Marc Preston: There's a overall seemed like an overall

Speaker:

00:36:33,804 --> 00:36:35,190

Marc Preston: concept about the way the show is done.

Speaker:

00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:37,520

Marc Preston: I like going okay, I don't see anything

Speaker:

00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,613

Marc Preston: else like this on TV.

Speaker:

00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:40,702

Marc Preston: I like that, you know, and with so much out

Speaker:

00:36:40,785 --> 00:36:43,186

Marc Preston: there, all the streamers and everything, it

Speaker:

00:36:43,207 --> 00:36:44,373

Marc Preston: seems like everything that could be out

Speaker:

00:36:44,393 --> 00:36:44,937

Marc Preston: there is out there.

Speaker:

00:36:44,977 --> 00:36:46,622

Marc Preston: So it's nice to be surprised, Like oh, I

Speaker:

00:36:46,663 --> 00:36:47,404

Marc Preston: didn't see this coming.

Speaker:

00:36:47,424 --> 00:36:49,549

Marc Preston: Yeah, now the now.

Speaker:

00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:50,110

Marc Preston: I did see you got.

Speaker:

00:36:50,551 --> 00:36:51,373

Marc Preston: You got BET.

Speaker:

00:36:52,805 --> 00:36:54,391

Marc Preston: You're on the list of six black women show

Speaker:

00:36:54,411 --> 00:36:56,217

Marc Preston: runners who inspired TV's diverse

Speaker:

00:36:56,418 --> 00:36:56,799

Marc Preston: renaissance.

Speaker:

00:36:56,819 --> 00:37:00,633

Marc Preston: That's like kind of a cool recognition Do

Speaker:

00:37:00,653 --> 00:37:01,957

Marc Preston: you feel yeah, no pressure yeah.

Speaker:

00:37:02,158 --> 00:37:02,720

Marc Preston: That was just about.

Speaker:

00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:04,688

Marc Preston: That was going to be the follow up

Speaker:

00:37:05,311 --> 00:37:06,958

Marc Preston: Hollywood being Hollywood, the industry

Speaker:

00:37:06,978 --> 00:37:07,480

Marc Preston: being what it is.

Speaker:

00:37:07,741 --> 00:37:09,208

Marc Preston: Once you start getting some attention, is

Speaker:

00:37:09,248 --> 00:37:09,469

Marc Preston: there?

Speaker:

00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:11,559

Marc Preston: Is there kind of like now people are paying

Speaker:

00:37:11,579 --> 00:37:12,482

Marc Preston: attention, this is game day.

Speaker:

00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:13,284

Marc Preston: I got to perform.

Speaker:

00:37:13,445 --> 00:37:13,946

Marc Preston: How does that?

Speaker:

00:37:14,126 --> 00:37:15,811

Marc Preston: How does that affect you to to now be

Speaker:

00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:18,207

Marc Preston: coming on folks, coming on folks radars?

Speaker:

00:37:19,572 --> 00:37:22,000

Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, I think you know, in a lot of ways it

Speaker:

00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:23,404

Asha Michelle Wilson: just makes me think about the difference

Speaker:

00:37:23,444 --> 00:37:25,951

Asha Michelle Wilson: between public success and private success.

Speaker:

00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:29,771

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think during lockdown I was honestly

Speaker:

00:37:29,871 --> 00:37:31,636

Asha Michelle Wilson: working more than I ever had.

Speaker:

00:37:31,696 --> 00:37:33,603

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was pitching almost every day and I was

Speaker:

00:37:33,924 --> 00:37:36,252

Asha Michelle Wilson: in general meetings and I was writing hours

Speaker:

00:37:36,272 --> 00:37:36,914

Asha Michelle Wilson: and hours I would.

Speaker:

00:37:37,557 --> 00:37:41,085

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was in London and I was working from 10am

Speaker:

00:37:41,506 --> 00:37:42,929

Asha Michelle Wilson: until 5pm.

Speaker:

00:37:42,989 --> 00:37:44,632

Asha Michelle Wilson: When I got into a Zoom writer's room from

Speaker:

00:37:44,692 --> 00:37:47,023

Asha Michelle Wilson: 5pm until midnight and then I'd write till

Speaker:

00:37:47,083 --> 00:37:49,188

Asha Michelle Wilson: 3am and then sleep and then wake up and do

Speaker:

00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:51,662

Asha Michelle Wilson: it again and nobody knew about anything I

Speaker:

00:37:51,723 --> 00:37:52,345

Asha Michelle Wilson: was working on.

Speaker:

00:37:52,445 --> 00:37:54,853

Asha Michelle Wilson: It was all just like my private kind of

Speaker:

00:37:54,973 --> 00:37:55,454

Asha Michelle Wilson: success.

Speaker:

00:37:56,638 --> 00:37:58,884

Asha Michelle Wilson: And then fast forward to now when it's

Speaker:

00:37:58,924 --> 00:38:00,889

Asha Michelle Wilson: amazing to be on lists and these articles

Speaker:

00:38:00,949 --> 00:38:03,302

Asha Michelle Wilson: coming out and having more eyes on me in

Speaker:

00:38:03,322 --> 00:38:03,904

Asha Michelle Wilson: that way.

Speaker:

00:38:04,826 --> 00:38:07,815

Asha Michelle Wilson: But I think, you know, in a weird way it's

Speaker:

00:38:07,975 --> 00:38:10,203

Asha Michelle Wilson: not necessarily as fulfilling as the kind

Speaker:

00:38:10,243 --> 00:38:11,891

Asha Michelle Wilson: of private success that you get from just

Speaker:

00:38:11,932 --> 00:38:13,359

Asha Michelle Wilson: being enjoying the stuff that you're

Speaker:

00:38:13,379 --> 00:38:13,721

Asha Michelle Wilson: working on.

Speaker:

00:38:13,761 --> 00:38:16,409

Asha Michelle Wilson: So I think for me I just try to focus on

Speaker:

00:38:16,449 --> 00:38:19,800

Asha Michelle Wilson: like I'm so lucky to get to do this, this

Speaker:

00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:21,323

Asha Michelle Wilson: thing I've been dreaming of doing since I

Speaker:

00:38:21,363 --> 00:38:26,192

Asha Michelle Wilson: was six and you know I don't usually.

Speaker:

00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:28,244

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm sure there's like one day a month where

Speaker:

00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:30,655

Asha Michelle Wilson: I have a lot of anxiety about it, but most

Speaker:

00:38:30,715 --> 00:38:31,981

Asha Michelle Wilson: of the time, you know, it's kind of the

Speaker:

00:38:32,021 --> 00:38:32,221

Asha Michelle Wilson: like.

Speaker:

00:38:32,582 --> 00:38:35,551

Asha Michelle Wilson: I get to work on a show that once I dressed

Speaker:

00:38:35,592 --> 00:38:38,400

Asha Michelle Wilson: as a character on Halloween as like I get

Speaker:

00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,970

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know like things like that that are

Speaker:

00:38:41,031 --> 00:38:42,637

Asha Michelle Wilson: just really cool and exciting, and I think

Speaker:

00:38:42,657 --> 00:38:45,224

Asha Michelle Wilson: that helps keep everything leveled.

Speaker:

00:38:45,425 --> 00:38:46,508

Marc Preston: Now, do you have any siblings?

Speaker:

00:38:46,848 --> 00:38:49,641

Asha Michelle Wilson: I have half siblings on my dad's side quite

Speaker:

00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:52,390

Asha Michelle Wilson: a few, but I'm my mom's only kid.

Speaker:

00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:55,178

Asha Michelle Wilson: But actually last summer I flew out my

Speaker:

00:38:55,399 --> 00:38:56,222

Asha Michelle Wilson: oldest half sister.

Speaker:

00:38:56,322 --> 00:38:57,445

Asha Michelle Wilson: She's 19 now.

Speaker:

00:38:57,465 --> 00:39:00,735

Asha Michelle Wilson: She was 18 at the time and I flew her out

Speaker:

00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:02,842

Asha Michelle Wilson: to LA and that was really exciting to kind

Speaker:

00:39:02,862 --> 00:39:04,631

Asha Michelle Wilson: of like see LA through her eyes.

Speaker:

00:39:04,732 --> 00:39:05,877

Asha Michelle Wilson: She, you know, wanted to see the Hollywood

Speaker:

00:39:05,897 --> 00:39:07,483

Asha Michelle Wilson: Walk of Fame and all of that.

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00:39:07,563 --> 00:39:09,308

Asha Michelle Wilson: But none of them work in entertainment, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm kind of the only one that's in this.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, whenever I go to LA, to me it's

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Marc Preston: always an eating expedition.

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Marc Preston: You know it's always like in and out.

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Marc Preston: I try to.

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Marc Preston: You know I was a big fan of Anthony

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Marc Preston: Bourdain and his thing was always when he

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Marc Preston: gets out, when he lands at LAX, he always

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00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:23,154

Marc Preston: goes in and out burger.

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Marc Preston: I'm like that became my thing.

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00:39:25,041 --> 00:39:26,404

Marc Preston: I always do that now because of him.

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Marc Preston: It's my like peng homage in a greasy way.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, I love that.

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Marc Preston: But I'm always curious because folks who do

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00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:36,699

Marc Preston: this my intrigue is okay a lot of people

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00:39:36,759 --> 00:39:38,367

Marc Preston: who do it are either only children or maybe

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00:39:38,387 --> 00:39:40,277

Marc Preston: they have older siblings, but they're kind

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00:39:40,297 --> 00:39:42,404

Marc Preston: of in their own head a lot, for whatever

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00:39:42,464 --> 00:39:42,845

Marc Preston: reason.

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00:39:42,925 --> 00:39:44,208

Marc Preston: You know, like my generation.

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00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:47,783

Marc Preston: You know I was speaking with LaMonica

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00:39:47,823 --> 00:39:49,532

Marc Preston: Garrett recently and we're talking about

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00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:50,960

Marc Preston: how you know your latchkey kids back in the

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00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:51,321

Marc Preston: day.

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00:39:51,361 --> 00:39:52,324

Marc Preston: You're kind of left alone.

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00:39:52,344 --> 00:39:53,387

Marc Preston: You're in your own head doing your own

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00:39:53,427 --> 00:39:56,744

Marc Preston: thing where you kind of as a kid creative

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00:39:56,764 --> 00:39:57,887

Marc Preston: like you need your own creative.

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00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:00,333

Marc Preston: Like you time or are you very gregarious?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I also want to say you have a Bourdain like

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00:40:03,448 --> 00:40:06,859

Asha Michelle Wilson: voice, which is I'm a huge fan of his, so

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Asha Michelle Wilson: that's a big comment.

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Marc Preston: He's my spirit animal.

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00:40:08,747 --> 00:40:09,491

Marc Preston: I appreciate that.

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00:40:09,692 --> 00:40:11,219

Marc Preston: Oh great, I'm going to carry that around

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00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,941

Marc Preston: the rest of the day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Good, I'm glad you should.

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00:40:14,046 --> 00:40:19,217

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think I was also a latchkey kid and, but

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00:40:19,418 --> 00:40:21,204

Asha Michelle Wilson: I I was an outgoing kid.

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00:40:21,304 --> 00:40:22,730

Asha Michelle Wilson: I moved around a lot growing up.

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00:40:22,831 --> 00:40:24,559

Asha Michelle Wilson: I didn't go to a school for more than two

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00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:27,608

Asha Michelle Wilson: years until high school, so I was kind of

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00:40:27,909 --> 00:40:28,491

Asha Michelle Wilson: all over the place.

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00:40:28,511 --> 00:40:30,879

Asha Michelle Wilson: So I had to sort of be outgoing and

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00:40:30,939 --> 00:40:32,185

Asha Michelle Wilson: energetic and make friends.

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00:40:32,265 --> 00:40:34,075

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was kind of the kid who went up to people

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00:40:34,096 --> 00:40:35,281

Asha Michelle Wilson: on the playground and was like, do you want

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00:40:35,301 --> 00:40:36,063

Asha Michelle Wilson: to be my friend?

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00:40:36,184 --> 00:40:40,536

Asha Michelle Wilson: And most of the time they said yes, and so

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00:40:40,777 --> 00:40:43,084

Asha Michelle Wilson: you know I wasn't very shy at all.

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00:40:43,465 --> 00:40:45,813

Asha Michelle Wilson: I really liked doing like impressions that

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00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:46,696

Asha Michelle Wilson: I wasn't good at.

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00:40:46,776 --> 00:40:48,522

Asha Michelle Wilson: I liked doing accents for people.

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00:40:49,484 --> 00:40:52,594

Asha Michelle Wilson: So I was definitely more gregarious.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny how many of the people

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00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:55,685

Marc Preston: in this industry were actually.

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00:40:55,766 --> 00:40:57,736

Marc Preston: They're actually fundamentally more shy,

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00:40:57,816 --> 00:40:59,102

Marc Preston: more reserved, but when they're on camera

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00:40:59,143 --> 00:41:01,412

Marc Preston: it's like you know, but what are you

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00:41:01,432 --> 00:41:01,974

Marc Preston: working on now?

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00:41:02,034 --> 00:41:04,082

Marc Preston: What's coming up in the pipeline?

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00:41:04,123 --> 00:41:06,031

Marc Preston: Either things that are already kind of in

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00:41:06,051 --> 00:41:08,019

Marc Preston: the queue, or things maybe you're wanting

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00:41:08,059 --> 00:41:10,146

Marc Preston: to kind of get into a queue.

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00:41:10,246 --> 00:41:12,574

Asha Michelle Wilson: So I'm in development with Paramount Plus

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00:41:12,654 --> 00:41:16,363

Asha Michelle Wilson: right now on a project that's a remake

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00:41:16,523 --> 00:41:20,670

Asha Michelle Wilson: reboot, I guess of the 1990s film Soap Dish

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00:41:21,712 --> 00:41:23,095

Asha Michelle Wilson: that started with Goldberg and Sally Fields,

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,745

Asha Michelle Wilson: and so we're kind of in that process right

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00:41:25,786 --> 00:41:26,086

Asha Michelle Wilson: now.

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00:41:26,207 --> 00:41:28,532

Asha Michelle Wilson: And then I'm pitching out a few projects.

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00:41:28,592 --> 00:41:30,866

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm also working on season 14 of Archer,

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00:41:30,966 --> 00:41:34,015

Asha Michelle Wilson: which is exciting, and I'm also working on

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00:41:34,035 --> 00:41:36,885

Asha Michelle Wilson: a movie with Vanessa Hudgens and Alexandra

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00:41:36,905 --> 00:41:38,893

Asha Michelle Wilson: Ship that the amazing Kimmy Gatewood is

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00:41:38,953 --> 00:41:41,141

Asha Michelle Wilson: going to direct, and so we're kind of in

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00:41:41,261 --> 00:41:43,607

Asha Michelle Wilson: early development on that as well and so

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00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:45,351

Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of, you know, got a few different

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00:41:45,391 --> 00:41:48,327

Asha Michelle Wilson: fires going and moving them all forward.

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Marc Preston: And I don't know how you do that, because I

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00:41:50,016 --> 00:41:51,462

Marc Preston: got to focus on one thing at a time.

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00:41:51,742 --> 00:41:54,109

Marc Preston: I say that I've got all kinds of crap going

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00:41:54,189 --> 00:41:55,492

Marc Preston: on in my three teenagers.

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00:41:55,552 --> 00:41:58,084

Marc Preston: But Paramount Plus, they're putting out

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00:41:58,245 --> 00:41:58,867

Marc Preston: some good stuff.

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00:41:58,887 --> 00:42:02,236

Marc Preston: I was a big fan of 1883.

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00:42:02,597 --> 00:42:04,623

Asha Michelle Wilson: Yeah, that's like their biggest hit.

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00:42:05,104 --> 00:42:06,970

Marc Preston: The Paramount Plus thing is that something

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00:42:08,394 --> 00:42:09,397

Marc Preston: rough ETA.

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00:42:09,457 --> 00:42:11,966

Marc Preston: And well, of course you know, man plans,

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00:42:12,006 --> 00:42:12,970

Marc Preston: god laughs, of course.

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00:42:13,050 --> 00:42:14,536

Marc Preston: But I mean what, what, what, especially in

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00:42:14,557 --> 00:42:15,781

Marc Preston: this business?

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00:42:16,363 --> 00:42:16,844

Marc Preston: When is that?

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00:42:17,024 --> 00:42:18,648

Marc Preston: When are you thinking that make your next

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00:42:18,688 --> 00:42:20,032

Marc Preston: project could be rolling out?

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00:42:20,481 --> 00:42:21,545

Asha Michelle Wilson: Well I did Well.

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00:42:21,606 --> 00:42:22,670

Asha Michelle Wilson: In terms of the next project that I have

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00:42:22,690 --> 00:42:25,501

Asha Michelle Wilson: coming out, the project that I worked on, a

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00:42:25,642 --> 00:42:27,706

Asha Michelle Wilson: show for Netflix called Agent King that

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00:42:27,746 --> 00:42:29,009

Asha Michelle Wilson: should be coming out this fall.

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00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:32,905

Asha Michelle Wilson: In terms of the Paramount project, that is

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00:42:32,945 --> 00:42:34,269

Asha Michelle Wilson: still a little unknown.

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00:42:34,329 --> 00:42:37,999

Asha Michelle Wilson: I'm hoping sooner rather than later, but I

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00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,148

Asha Michelle Wilson: think in this industry it's kind of always

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00:42:40,830 --> 00:42:42,738

Asha Michelle Wilson: like you said you make a plan and execs

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00:42:42,818 --> 00:42:43,059

Asha Michelle Wilson: laugh.

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00:42:43,099 --> 00:42:46,507

Asha Michelle Wilson: Really I think you should say but but

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00:42:46,567 --> 00:42:48,031

Asha Michelle Wilson: hoping sooner rather than later for

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00:42:48,091 --> 00:42:48,812

Asha Michelle Wilson: everything, really.

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00:42:49,321 --> 00:42:49,824

Marc Preston: Well, that's pretty cool.

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00:42:49,844 --> 00:42:51,835

Marc Preston: We'll tell you what I do before before we

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00:42:51,875 --> 00:42:53,463

Marc Preston: wrap up always have what I call my seven

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00:42:53,503 --> 00:42:55,891

Marc Preston: questions, purely just fun.

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00:42:56,392 --> 00:42:58,359

Marc Preston: First question I always love asking because

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00:42:58,399 --> 00:42:59,927

Marc Preston: I'm a food guy I mentioned Anthony Bourdain

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00:42:59,947 --> 00:43:01,838

Marc Preston: says, right down the middle of where I'm at

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00:43:01,899 --> 00:43:03,586

Marc Preston: what is your favorite comfort food?

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00:43:03,626 --> 00:43:05,735

Marc Preston: That thing that's like if you've had a

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00:43:05,775 --> 00:43:07,343

Marc Preston: rough day or maybe it's a whole lot of work,

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00:43:07,363 --> 00:43:08,651

Marc Preston: you're like you know you could go eat

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00:43:08,671 --> 00:43:09,879

Marc Preston: healthy, but you know I'm just going to go

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00:43:09,899 --> 00:43:11,463

Marc Preston: get this or maybe it.

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00:43:11,563 --> 00:43:12,846

Marc Preston: Maybe your comfort food is healthy, who

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00:43:12,886 --> 00:43:13,087

Marc Preston: knows?

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00:43:15,071 --> 00:43:19,428

Asha Michelle Wilson: I really love cooking and a meal that, if

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00:43:19,468 --> 00:43:21,053

Asha Michelle Wilson: I've had a rough day, that is actually like

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00:43:21,515 --> 00:43:23,602

Asha Michelle Wilson: not difficult to put together but really

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00:43:23,662 --> 00:43:26,171

Asha Michelle Wilson: soothes my soul, is I'll make a steak and

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00:43:26,211 --> 00:43:28,739

Asha Michelle Wilson: mashed potatoes and put like a bunch of

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00:43:28,779 --> 00:43:29,703

Asha Michelle Wilson: truffle salt on it.

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00:43:30,104 --> 00:43:32,152

Asha Michelle Wilson: And that feels like a little elevate, yeah,

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00:43:32,212 --> 00:43:34,160

Asha Michelle Wilson: and it feels a little fancy and very like

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00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,088

Asha Michelle Wilson: warm and cozy, but does not take long to

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00:43:36,129 --> 00:43:36,691

Asha Michelle Wilson: put together.

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00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:38,358

Marc Preston: Yeah, you're kind of like me.

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00:43:38,378 --> 00:43:39,927

Marc Preston: It's like, what's that one little thing you

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00:43:39,947 --> 00:43:41,638

Marc Preston: can do to kind of like make a seem a little

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00:43:41,678 --> 00:43:43,003

Marc Preston: fancier, especially what's nice when you're

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00:43:43,023 --> 00:43:44,005

Marc Preston: doing it just for yourself.

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00:43:44,046 --> 00:43:46,091

Marc Preston: You're like, look, I made this.

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00:43:46,361 --> 00:43:47,849

Marc Preston: You know nobody's around the notice, but

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00:43:47,869 --> 00:43:48,633

Marc Preston: you're proud of yourself.

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00:43:49,196 --> 00:43:50,461

Marc Preston: Now, if you were to sit down with three

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00:43:50,501 --> 00:43:54,673

Marc Preston: people for a cup of coffee and it'd be a

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00:43:55,014 --> 00:43:57,100

Marc Preston: living or not who would those three people

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00:43:57,301 --> 00:43:57,381

Marc Preston: be?

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00:43:57,502 --> 00:43:59,008

Marc Preston: Would love to talk story with for a few

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00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:59,350

Marc Preston: hours?

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00:44:00,093 --> 00:44:00,334

Marc Preston: I was.

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00:44:00,394 --> 00:44:01,418

Marc Preston: Whenever I asked this question.

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00:44:01,439 --> 00:44:03,386

Marc Preston: I always get the coffee bean and tea leaf

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00:44:03,426 --> 00:44:05,394

Marc Preston: across from the director's guild on sunset.

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00:44:05,816 --> 00:44:07,966

Marc Preston: That's that coffee shop always comes to my

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00:44:08,006 --> 00:44:09,354

Marc Preston: mind whenever I ask this question.

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00:44:09,434 --> 00:44:10,681

Marc Preston: So, because I guess that's where he's to

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00:44:10,721 --> 00:44:12,125

Marc Preston: post up with my computer and do work.

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00:44:13,488 --> 00:44:14,712

Marc Preston: But who would you like to sit down with?

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00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:24,091

Asha Michelle Wilson: Madeleine Khan, kevin Klein love him and I

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00:44:24,312 --> 00:44:25,453

Asha Michelle Wilson: and Tracy Ellis Ross.

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00:44:25,634 --> 00:44:26,795

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think she'd just be fun.

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00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,581

Asha Michelle Wilson: You know, madeleine.

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00:44:27,601 --> 00:44:28,082

Marc Preston: Khan is funny.

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00:44:28,102 --> 00:44:32,472

Marc Preston: Going back to Mel Brooks movie, yeah,

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00:44:32,672 --> 00:44:33,394

Marc Preston: frankenstein, what am I?

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00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,103

Marc Preston: Drawing brain.

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00:44:34,263 --> 00:44:36,091

Marc Preston: How can I brain fart, madeleine?

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00:44:36,111 --> 00:44:37,858

Marc Preston: Khan I had like a little.

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00:44:37,898 --> 00:44:39,323

Marc Preston: I remember being a kid kid have a little

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00:44:39,343 --> 00:44:41,288

Marc Preston: micro crush on her Like it's like she was

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00:44:41,429 --> 00:44:42,331

Marc Preston: micro crush.

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00:44:42,612 --> 00:44:44,282

Asha Michelle Wilson: macro crush Come on.

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00:44:44,483 --> 00:44:45,285

Marc Preston: She, she was.

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00:44:45,466 --> 00:44:47,131

Marc Preston: I mean, because I was a kid, she was older,

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00:44:47,171 --> 00:44:49,277

Marc Preston: but she's funny, I was like I like that,

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00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,222

Marc Preston: that's cool, man.

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00:44:51,144 --> 00:44:52,428

Marc Preston: Now that brings me actually to my next

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00:44:52,488 --> 00:44:54,821

Marc Preston: question who was your celebrity crush when

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00:44:54,841 --> 00:44:55,343

Marc Preston: you were a kid?

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00:44:56,767 --> 00:44:59,316

Marc Preston: Oh, when I was a kid, oh hey you want to

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00:44:59,336 --> 00:45:01,081

Marc Preston: bring up who it is now we're going to take

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00:45:01,101 --> 00:45:02,305

Marc Preston: that answer also, no worries.

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00:45:02,586 --> 00:45:03,910

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was gonna say I don't know if I have one

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00:45:03,970 --> 00:45:05,742

Asha Michelle Wilson: now, they're all great.

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00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:11,517

Asha Michelle Wilson: When I was a kid, I think Okay, when I was

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00:45:11,537 --> 00:45:13,201

Asha Michelle Wilson: really little, it was a classic Jonathan

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00:45:13,221 --> 00:45:14,464

Asha Michelle Wilson: Taylor Thomas type.

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00:45:14,544 --> 00:45:14,865

Announcer: Oh yeah.

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00:45:14,986 --> 00:45:15,166

Asha Michelle Wilson: I was.

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00:45:15,366 --> 00:45:17,572

Asha Michelle Wilson: That was definitely like my first onscreen

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00:45:17,672 --> 00:45:17,752

Asha Michelle Wilson: one.

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00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,446

Asha Michelle Wilson: Also, Jeremy Sumter from the live action

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00:45:20,466 --> 00:45:21,729

Asha Michelle Wilson: Peter Pan was a big one.

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00:45:22,310 --> 00:45:24,104

Asha Michelle Wilson: Those were like my first, like oh my gosh,

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00:45:24,125 --> 00:45:26,379

Asha Michelle Wilson: they're so pretty kind of crushes for sure.

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00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,765

Marc Preston: When you only have three networks.

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00:45:27,865 --> 00:45:31,248

Marc Preston: I mean you had these big teen heartthrobs

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00:45:31,268 --> 00:45:32,583

Marc Preston: that were like, okay, now you got a

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00:45:32,603 --> 00:45:33,908

Marc Preston: gazillion different shows on.

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00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:35,767

Marc Preston: It's not like everybody's watching, you

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00:45:35,807 --> 00:45:35,948

Marc Preston: know.

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00:45:37,822 --> 00:45:39,147

Marc Preston: Anyway, I'm getting that time machine over

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00:45:39,167 --> 00:45:41,165

Marc Preston: and over again and just go tell my kids

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00:45:41,186 --> 00:45:42,725

Marc Preston: like, say there were three networks much

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00:45:42,765 --> 00:45:43,247

Marc Preston: upon a time.

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00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:44,844

Asha Michelle Wilson: Back in my day.

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00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:47,923

Marc Preston: Now the next question I got if you were to

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00:45:47,943 --> 00:45:49,288

Marc Preston: go to an exotic island, it's actually

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00:45:49,308 --> 00:45:49,950

Marc Preston: somewhere you want to be.

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00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,543

Marc Preston: You're gonna be there a year, though, and

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00:45:52,563 --> 00:45:53,808

Marc Preston: there's no streaming or nothing.

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00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,062

Marc Preston: You can bring a DVD of a movie, and you can

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00:45:56,102 --> 00:45:58,920

Marc Preston: bring one album with you for a year, and

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00:45:58,940 --> 00:46:00,166

Marc Preston: that's all your entertainment.

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00:46:00,220 --> 00:46:01,024

Marc Preston: What are you gonna bring with you?

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00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,407

Asha Michelle Wilson: The movie would be Clueless.

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00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:05,964

Asha Michelle Wilson: I love that movie.

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00:46:07,580 --> 00:46:12,321

Asha Michelle Wilson: The album would probably be oh gosh, I'm

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00:46:12,361 --> 00:46:14,421

Asha Michelle Wilson: blanking on the exact name of it, but it's

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00:46:14,802 --> 00:46:16,908

Asha Michelle Wilson: the Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong

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00:46:16,948 --> 00:46:20,122

Asha Michelle Wilson: duets album, that's.

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00:46:20,262 --> 00:46:23,585

Asha Michelle Wilson: It's like a very thick album, but that one

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00:46:23,645 --> 00:46:24,387

Asha Michelle Wilson: I think they just.

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00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,045

Asha Michelle Wilson: I love their voices together.

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00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,883

Marc Preston: Very good, very good.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, it's funny, clueless, I think, as

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Marc Preston: some of the most memorable dialogue.

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Marc Preston: I mean, there's so many quotes from that

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Marc Preston: but you gotta have to remember the movie

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Marc Preston: that you know, I remember it, I remember it

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Marc Preston: enough for a lot of people, I think.

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Marc Preston: Now, if you were to sit down from the time

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Marc Preston: you're to define a perfect day, what would

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Marc Preston: What would the component parts be of that

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Marc Preston: perfect day?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Okay, I would probably schedule the day

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Asha Michelle Wilson: around food.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: So if I could do like a nice big breakfast

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Asha Michelle Wilson: in the morning with like blueberry pancakes

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and like bacon and eggs, and then I would

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Asha Michelle Wilson: want to oh, part of me wants to just say

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Disneyland actually as the whole day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I'm gonna go for big breakfast, maybe

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going to the beach and then having like a

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Asha Michelle Wilson: nice lobster roll by the beach and then

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Asha Michelle Wilson: going to see, like you know what I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: loved, this would actually be a part of my

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Asha Michelle Wilson: perfect day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I remember the Hollywood Bowl used to do

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Asha Michelle Wilson: these shows where they would play a movie

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Asha Michelle Wilson: like, let's say, beauty and the Beast or

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Asha Michelle Wilson: something, and they'd have actors come in

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to sing the songs and then there was a live

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Asha Michelle Wilson: orchestra playing in these watching the

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Asha Michelle Wilson: movie.

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Marc Preston: I think I remember hearing about that yeah,

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Marc Preston: they were amazing.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: They did the Little Mermaid and they were

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Asha Michelle Wilson: just, really just nice moments and I would

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Asha Michelle Wilson: probably want to do that at night and then

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Asha Michelle Wilson: maybe in the in-between, take like a tap

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Asha Michelle Wilson: dancing class for fun or something, and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: probably write at some point.

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Marc Preston: No, that's funny.

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Marc Preston: So the big breakfast Anthony Bourdain

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Marc Preston: turned me onto, the idea of like it doesn't

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Marc Preston: have to be a sweet whatever.

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Marc Preston: You have a big bowl of like Asian noodles,

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Marc Preston: but it's spicy.

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Marc Preston: So I've kind of got a thing.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's the Texas part of me.

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Marc Preston: I like a.

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Marc Preston: I have some called chili chilies which are

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Marc Preston: really big, like kind of a spicy big.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh, I love spicy.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: If I could end the day with a bowl of

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Asha Michelle Wilson: cereal, that would really like cap

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Asha Michelle Wilson: everything off.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But I love spicy in general.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I was gonna say so I'm a big fan of that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Very good, very good.

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Marc Preston: Okay, now the next question I've got If you

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Marc Preston: something in this creative realm.

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Marc Preston: But they said, okay, no more movies or TV.

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Marc Preston: What would your vocation be?

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Marc Preston: What would be the thing that turns you on?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Oh my God, I think I just was thinking

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Asha Michelle Wilson: about this the other day.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: My answer used to always be like I'd like

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to like own a bakery in Europe or something

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and, just, you know, make cookies and stuff.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But lately I've kind of I mean, if I really

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Asha Michelle Wilson: couldn't do movies or TV, I'd probably

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Asha Michelle Wilson: write books, like I'd probably write beachy

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Asha Michelle Wilson: rom-com books about like characters that

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Asha Michelle Wilson: have to fake a relationship in order to go

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to a wedding or something, just because I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think those make a lot of people happy and

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Asha Michelle Wilson: they're very fun.

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Marc Preston: You said BG rom-com.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: A beach read, beach read, rom-com.

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Marc Preston: Beach read oh okay, I gotcha.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Yes, the very light, fluffy, heartwarming

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Asha Michelle Wilson: kind of books.

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Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if

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Marc Preston: you had a DeLorean, you can cruise back in

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Marc Preston: time and connect with 16 year old Asha.

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Marc Preston: What piece of advice would you offer

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Marc Preston: yourself?

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Marc Preston: That would be to get you on a better track

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Marc Preston: or maybe to bring more joy to your life.

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Marc Preston: In that moment, what would you tell

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Marc Preston: yourself?

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Asha Michelle Wilson: To try and live in the moment as much as

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Asha Michelle Wilson: possible.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I think when you're, I was a kid who knew

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Asha Michelle Wilson: what I wanted to do.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I knew I wanted to write TV, especially by

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Asha Michelle Wilson: 16.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: And so much of my life was, like you know,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the kind of cliche teenager.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I gotta get out of this town and make it to

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Asha Michelle Wilson: the city and no part of me wants to go back

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Asha Michelle Wilson: and relive high school or college at all.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But you know, I think I wanted to grow up

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Asha Michelle Wilson: very quickly.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I wanted to, you know, be where I am now,

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Asha Michelle Wilson: to be honest, and where I am now is great.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: But where I was then was great too, and I

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Asha Michelle Wilson: think it's hard to remember that sometimes.

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Marc Preston: So I'd probably say that it's funny

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Marc Preston: speaking with Neil deGrasse Tyson and

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Marc Preston: asking him the same thing and he's like

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Marc Preston: that's kind of a farcical question.

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Marc Preston: I mean I understood his perspective because

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Marc Preston: anything, there you're creating a whole new

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Marc Preston: universe for yourself because every thing

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Marc Preston: happens.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: Creating paradoxes, of course.

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Marc Preston: Exactly, you know so Well.

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Marc Preston: I so appreciate your time again and I wish

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Marc Preston: you all the best.

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Marc Preston: I'm looking forward to seeing your name

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Marc Preston: showing up in more and more credits, and

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Marc Preston: most certainly You're so great to meet you.

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Marc Preston: Well, it's certainly a pleasure.

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Marc Preston: Now, please, next time you're sent your

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Marc Preston: food person, next time you're on Fairfax

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Marc Preston: you got a canter.

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Marc Preston: Please get some of the matzah ball soup for

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Marc Preston: me.

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Asha Michelle Wilson: I will absolutely.

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Marc Preston: All right, asha Michelle Wilson, enjoy this

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Marc Preston: chat.

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Marc Preston: Very cool.

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Marc Preston: We kind of, you know, pulled the curtain

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Marc Preston: back, learned a little bit more about TV,

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Asha Michelle Wilson

Showrunner | Writer | Producer | Actor

Asha Michelle Wilson is a rising showrunner, writer, producer and actress. Currently, she is in script-to-series development with Paramount+ and is set to pen the "Soapdish" TV series for the streamer. Wilson wrote on the upcoming Netflix series "Agent King" and FX's "Archer" and has previously written on "American Horror Story" on FX, "Incarnate" on Netflix, and "The Hospital" on Amazon. Additionally, she wrote, produced and starred in the short film "Friends Like These," which was a winner at the London Short Film Festival.