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March 9, 2024

Anja Savcic | Sarajevo + Vancity = Funny

Anja Savcic | Sarajevo + Vancity = Funny

On this episode of The Story & Craft Podcast, we sit down with talented actor, Anja Savcic.  She can currently be seen in the new Prime Video movie, "Ricky Stanicky." Listen in as Anya opens up about her experiences on set with John Cena, Zac Efron, Andrew Santino and Jermaine Fowler, as well as Anja’s roots in Vancouver, Canada and Sarajevo. 

We also peek behind the curtain of her experience working on multiple projects with writer, director and comedy legend, Peter Farrelly.  Anja also discusses her experience working on the Netflix show, "Loudermilk", along with comedic and independent film icon, Ron Livingston.  We also touch on the charm and vibe of working with a cast of American actors while shooting “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia.

Finally, we explore Anja’s personal passions and ponder life's simpler pleasures…from dream coffee dates with intellectual icons, to the rejuvenating power of yoga…as well as the NASA discoveries, the space program and our collective appreciation of sci-fi.  Anja Savcic is not only a great comedic storyteller, but she has a unique story of her own…one that we explore on this episode of Story and Craft.

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

0:03:34 - Home in Vancouver (49 Seconds)

0:11:03 - Experiences working on Netflix’s “Loudermilk”

0:18:17 - Filming “Ricky Stanicky” in Melbourne, Australia

0:28:21 - Reflections on Personal Growth and Influence

0:29:40 - Creative Pursuits and Travel Adventures

0:34:39 - Discovering Westerns Through Good Storytelling (28 Seconds)

0:41:21 - Admiration for Alan Watts

0:51:45 - Radio, Yoga, and Dog Talk

0:52:18 - Radio Personalities

01:02:33 - Sci-Fi Nerd Chat

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Transcript

Anja:

Did you see that NASA discovered another

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Anja: planet that's like seven times bigger than

 

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Anja: Earth Basically?

 

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Anja: What is that about?

 

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Anja: That's insane.

 

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Anja: How are we not all talking about that?

 

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Anja: Screw Mars.

 

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Anja: They're like, let's go there.

 

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Announcer: What are we doing?

 

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

 

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

 

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Marc: All right, here we go.

 

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Marc: Another episode of Story and Craft.

 

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Marc: Glad to have you back.

 

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Marc: I'm Marc Preston.

 

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Marc: If this is your first time, welcome.

 

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Marc: Glad to have you here.

 

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Marc: And, of course, if you've been a long time

 

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Marc: listener, you know, took a little hiatus a

 

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Marc: few weeks off, did the big move now

 

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Marc: residing home and studio right at the beach

 

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Marc: at South Padre Island, texas.

 

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Marc: You know, trying to do that Jimmy Buffett

 

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Marc: lifestyle Been a goal of mine.

 

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Marc: I guess we're doing it now.

 

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Marc: My youngest daughter, emma, is here with me.

 

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Marc: She's doing her gap year and working as a

 

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Marc: bartender.

 

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Marc: 18 years old, working at a beach bar during

 

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Marc: spring break, which is going on right now,

 

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Marc: reminds me I'm not a kid anymore.

 

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Marc: It is kind of cool to watch.

 

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Marc: So that's what I'm up to this weekend.

 

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Marc: But enough about what I got going on.

 

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Marc: We are back.

 

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Marc: Episodes galore about to roll out and today

 

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Marc: we are speaking with the very lovely, the

 

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Marc: very talented Anya Savchich.

 

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Marc: She is so incredibly talented, very fun to

 

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Marc: talk to as well.

 

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Marc: Louder Milk you might know her from the

 

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Marc: Netflix series, along with Ron Livingston

 

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Marc: their roommates.

 

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Marc: She was also on the ABC show Big Sky.

 

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Marc: New movie she's in right now is called

 

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Marc: Ricky Stanicky.

 

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Marc: She's in there along with Andrew Santino,

 

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Marc: john Cena, zac Efron, germain Fowler Cool

 

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Marc: dude Talked to him just not very long ago.

 

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Marc: It's a great movie, prime video, funny,

 

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Marc: funny stuff.

 

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Marc: It's out right now.

 

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Marc: You can check it out.

 

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Marc: And, of course, I want to remind you

 

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Marc: everything story and craft you could

 

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Marc: Okay, hey, and, by the way, a little

 

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Marc: request, if you would whether you're

 

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Marc: listening on Spotify or any one of the

 

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Marc: other platforms out there YouTube as well

 

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Marc: make sure to like, follow heck, leave a

 

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Marc: review.

 

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Marc: Just really jazzed to have you here and, of

 

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Marc: course, just want you to get notified every

 

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Marc: time we have a new episode coming out.

 

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Marc: Great episodes coming up.

 

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Marc: I think you'll have a lot of fun checking

 

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Marc: them out, but let's get after it.

 

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Marc: Let's jump in and have a nice conversation.

 

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Marc: Really enjoyed it.

 

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Marc: Today is Anya Savchich Day, right here on

 

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Marc: Story and Craft.

 

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Marc: How are you doing this afternoon?

 

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Marc: Anything good going on?

 

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Anja: I'm doing great Not much Preparing for the

 

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Anja: Ricky Stanicky premiere, which I'm really

 

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Anja: excited about, so just figuring out looks

 

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Anja: for that.

 

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Marc: Oh, that's right.

 

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Marc: That's right Because you got to do the red

 

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Marc: carpet thing.

 

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Marc: You got to make sure you got you.

 

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Anja: That's right, yeah, it's always fun, but

 

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Anja: it's always a little stressful too.

 

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Marc: Well, is this something you decide yourself?

 

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Marc: Because if I was doing this, it'd be like I

 

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Marc: got to hire somebody like listen, this

 

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Marc: needs help, you know.

 

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Anja: Totally.

 

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Anja: I mean you can hire someone, but it's still

 

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Anja: up to you.

 

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Anja: So there's always that little bit of

 

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Anja: pressure.

 

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Anja: But it's fun, I enjoy it.

 

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Marc: Now, when is the premiere going to be?

 

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Anja: Our premiere is March 5th.

 

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Marc: Okay, it's my oldest daughter's birthday.

 

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Marc: She turns 21,.

 

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Marc: So I'm going to have a 21-year-old.

 

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Marc: So still getting my head around that idea.

 

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Marc: I know, it's weird.

 

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Anja: Congratulations, that's fun.

 

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Anja: Yeah, it's so funny.

 

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Marc: It's the youngest one is the one who's

 

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Marc: excited to turn 21 because I can drink,

 

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Marc: yeah, yeah.

 

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Marc: Now?

 

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Marc: Do you live in Los Angeles right now?

 

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Anja: Right now I'm actually in Vancouver BC in

 

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Anja: Canada.

 

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Marc: Okay, okay, can you still call Canada home?

 

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Anja: I do, yeah, I do.

 

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Anja: I mean my family's here.

 

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Anja: I grew up here, my friends, so it's

 

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Anja: definitely my home.

 

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Marc: But this last year I just kind of checked

 

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Marc: you've been like really busy.

 

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Marc: Do you have a sense yourself that you've

 

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Marc: pretty easily managed?

 

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Anja: Well, I think, you know, sometimes we film

 

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Anja: projects and then they come out so much

 

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Anja: So even when I think of Ricky Stanicky

 

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Anja: coming out, that was a year ago that we

 

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Anja: filmed this movie.

 

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Anja: So it feels like a year ago I was really

 

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Anja: busy, and of course I've been busy since,

 

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Anja: but it's always waiting for the projects to

 

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Anja: come out.

 

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Anja: That's always the most exciting part, I

 

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Anja: So now feels like an exciting time, yeah.

 

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Marc: Yeah, I was speaking with somebody the

 

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Marc: some monster resume.

 

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Marc: But I always thought it was easy.

 

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Marc: If you're an actor, you go, do your thing

 

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Marc: and leave.

 

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Marc: But being a director though, that's a,

 

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Marc: you're married to a project for like a year

 

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Marc: and the actor folk got it easy.

 

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Anja: Totally.

 

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Anja: Yeah.

 

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Anja: I mean I've talked to a lot of actor

 

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Anja: directing and when I worked on Ladder Milk

 

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Anja: with Ron Livingston I was like, would you

 

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Anja: ever direct?

 

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Anja: Is that something you're interested in?

 

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Anja: And he said, oh God, no, like I just want

 

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Anja: to come to work and then leave and then

 

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Anja: have them figure out the rest.

 

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Anja: And I thought, yeah, I mean, it's true,

 

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Anja: when you're acting you have that ability

 

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Anja: just to jump in and then jump right out.

 

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Marc: Yeah, exactly.

 

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Marc: By the way, I do have to apologize.

 

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Marc: We literally just moved in not too long ago,

 

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Marc: so if you see some boxes just outside of

 

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Marc: unpacked in our new digs.

 

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Anja: So no worries, where did you move?

 

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Marc: A little place called South Pottery Island,

 

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Marc: texas, which is on the very tip of the

 

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Marc: South Texas coast.

 

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Marc: If you're a space nerd and watch the whole

 

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Marc: SpaceX thing, that's about yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

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Marc: It's seven miles south of me, across the

 

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Marc: That's where they launched the rocket, so

 

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Marc: it's so we're getting all excited.

 

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Marc: They got one going up here soon so really.

 

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Marc: But yeah, everybody goes down.

 

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Marc: There is a little inlet to get to the, to

 

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Marc: the bay, and everybody stands there and

 

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Marc: three, three or five miles, I'm not quite

 

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Marc: sure from where it seems closer, but they,

 

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Marc: I see they were stacking the rocket the

 

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Marc: other day, so it's kind of neat.

 

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Marc: My, my inner nerd is flexing right now.

 

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Anja: That is so cool.

 

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Anja: I would love to go up to space.

 

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Anja: It'd be terrifying, but it would be really

 

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Anja: cool.

 

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Marc: Yeah, there are days when I just like get

 

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Marc: me out of here for just a few minutes.

 

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Marc: But I was curious as far as the origin

 

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Marc: story kind of you know Canada growing up

 

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Marc: there, when did you make your way down here?

 

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Marc: Well, actually, let me kind of even rewind

 

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Marc: back further.

 

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Marc: Was this acting thing?

 

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Marc: Was it always part of your DNA, or always

 

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Marc: Were you a theater kid or this kind of come

 

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Marc: later on in life?

 

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Anja: Yeah, I'll start further back.

 

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Anja: So I was born in Bosnia, which was

 

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Anja: Yugoslavia at the time, and my family moved

 

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Anja: to Canada when I was around three.

 

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Anja: So we lived in Calgary, which is in Alberta,

 

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Anja: kind of more like a cowboy type of province.

 

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Marc: Familiar with it?

 

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Marc: Yeah, I'm a native Texan so I'm all

 

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Marc: familiar with the Calgary folk.

 

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Marc: Yeah.

 

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Anja: Exactly Very similar.

 

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Anja: It's like the Texas of Canada basically.

 

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Anja: So we lived there until I was about 10.

 

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Anja: And I remember I took my first drama class,

 

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Anja: actually in junior high, and I remember the

 

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Anja: teacher just saying to me huh, you know,

 

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Anja: you're not, you're not bad at this.

 

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Anja: And I remember that stuck in my head and I

 

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Anja: Yeah, I mean I definitely was most

 

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Anja: I was a huge fan of Degrassi when I was

 

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Anja: And then, yeah, what was the question?

 

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Marc: No, we're just kind of talking about where

 

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Marc: That's interesting.

 

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Marc: Was there anything else that besides?

 

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Marc: Oh my god, they just kind of lit your fire.

 

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Anja: Well, I loved all the teen stuff when I was

 

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Anja: I was just like this is the drama that I

 

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Anja: So I'm like where are all these men in my

 

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Marc: I was just pointing that out to my daughter

 

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Marc: That was what it was.

 

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Marc: We were going back.

 

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Marc: It was when I came out 91, 92, somewhere

 

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Marc: And you're looking at like they're

 

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Anja: Yeah, it's amazing, Totally, totally, and I

 

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Anja: kind of get it.

 

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Anja: I mean, it's like appealing to younger

 

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Anja: I think to look at older people Like we're

 

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Anja: makes sense.

 

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Anja: I can see where it gains more viewers.

 

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Anja: But it's definitely confusing when you're

 

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Marc: Well, it's funny.

 

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Marc: You know you mentioned the Canada thing and

 

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Marc: You know, I'm old enough to remember when

 

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Marc: the teacher would wheel in the media cart

 

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Anja: You know, and TV and the VC, oh God, yeah,

 

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Anja: of course Me too.

 

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Marc: I remember the 16 millimeter projector, but

 

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Marc: that's really going back.

 

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Marc: But all those things seem to be produced in

 

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Marc: Canada and so I just like kind of view it

 

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Marc: like they.

 

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Marc: There were a lot of, there was a lot of

 

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Marc: educational programming apparently getting

 

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Marc: Canada, and actor always think comedy, you

 

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Marc: know, like John Candy and all that Really.

 

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Anja: Yeah, I always think, you know like Mike

 

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Anja: Sure.

 

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Anja: Catherine O'Hara, eugene Levy, yes, indeed,

 

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Anja: yeah, the.

 

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Marc: OGs yeah, when you were coming up, was

 

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Marc: there a desire, Because you know you look

 

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Marc: at louder milk, you know, would you say the

 

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Marc: comedy was on the agenda or were you

 

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Marc: wanting to kind of go more of the drama OC

 

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Marc: Was there a desire early on?

 

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Anja: Oh man, I've always loved comedy.

 

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Anja: It's definitely my favorite genre and I

 

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Anja: think what I love about it the most is that

 

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Anja: people watch it all the time.

 

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Anja: Like when people talk to me about louder

 

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Anja: milk, they're like, oh, I'm watching it for

 

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Anja: the third time and I just think how cool is

 

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Anja: that?

 

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Anja: Yeah, I mean, it's so cool when you, when

 

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Anja: it, where sometimes you watch things that

 

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Anja: make you feel really, really gross inside,

 

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Anja: but they're so good but you're never going

 

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Anja: to watch them again.

 

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Anja: You know, like I think of Requiem for a

 

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Anja: Dream or something.

 

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Marc: Yeah, that's kind of a heavy one.

 

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Anja: I loved that movie, but I'm never watching

 

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Anja: that movie again.

 

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Anja: There's no way.

 

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Anja: That's like a one time deal.

 

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Marc: Yeah, I hear people talking about that in

 

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Marc: interviews and stuff.

 

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Marc: I'm like, okay, I'm going to give it props,

 

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Marc: it was a solid movie.

 

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Marc: I can't watch it again.

 

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Marc: It's too much, it's a little much.

 

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Marc: You know, it's a, it's a pretty intense.

 

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Marc: I guess a better way of putting it.

 

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Anja: Yeah it's, it's a very dark, but I think

 

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Anja: that's why comedy really stands out.

 

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Anja: For me is the.

 

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Anja: The watchability of it, the rewatchability

 

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Anja: of it is just so exciting, and I love that.

 

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Anja: It makes people happy, so I was always

 

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Anja: drawn to it, definitely.

 

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Marc: Well, I have to say you, you are the reason

 

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Marc: why I watch louder milk.

 

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Marc: I'm a I'm a season and a half in right now,

 

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Marc: I believe and I remember it because the

 

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Marc: publicity photos they had had you wearing a

 

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Marc: CPAP thing.

 

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Announcer: I'm like I just got to watch this.

 

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Marc: I just got to figure out why they chose to

 

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Marc: use this graphic to promote the show you

 

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Marc: know and and it, excuse me revealed itself.

 

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Marc: Plus also you know I'm going back in time

 

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Marc: big Ron Livingston fan.

 

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Marc: I mean that had to be like you had you had

 

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Marc: to have seen office space.

 

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Marc: Tell me you've seen office space.

 

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Anja: Of course, yeah, oh my God, at multiple

 

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Anja: times.

 

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Anja: Of course I've tried to get my kids to

 

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Anja: watch it.

 

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Marc: I grew up in Dallas and they shot it there

 

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Marc: and it was so indicative, it was a time

 

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Marc: capsule it's such a good time capsule of

 

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Marc: that time People going working in cubicles

 

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Marc: And even at the opening scene, uh, when

 

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Marc: he's driving down the highway and you can't

 

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Marc: get in the right light, I don't know if you

 

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Marc: how much you remember.

 

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Anja: Oh yeah, so good.

 

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Anja: Of course I remember that.

 

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Marc: That's LBJ.

 

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Marc: I used to drive that to get to the radio

 

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Marc: station where I worked and and I was like

 

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Marc: God this is such a like perfect time cap.

 

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Marc: That's a movie that I'll watch once a year

 

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Marc: probably.

 

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Marc: You know there are those movies you got to

 

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Marc: catch them like once a year.

 

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Marc: But uh, I have to ask though I mean the Ron

 

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Marc: Livingston thing is he is.

 

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Marc: How close to character is he?

 

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Marc: Because I've, throughout the arc of his

 

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Marc: career he can do different things, don't

 

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Marc: get me wrong, but Ron Livingston always

 

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Marc: quasi fan boy of the uh, that, that old

 

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Marc: movie, I was curious.

 

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Anja: He's um a lovely, kind, humble person.

 

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Anja: Um I wouldn't say he is like ladder milk.

 

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Anja: Um he definitely keeps his opinions more to

 

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Anja: himself.

 

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Anja: Yeah much more than the character Um he's.

 

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Anja: He's a friendly person who, um, I would say

 

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Anja: he's very work oriented, so he is more

 

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Anja: private, um, but still kind and giving.

 

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Anja: And, um, he's taught me a lot about acting

 

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Anja: and film and he's technically such an

 

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Anja: incredible actor also, so he always knows,

 

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Anja: like, where to turn and where the light is

 

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Anja: and how to move on camera.

 

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Anja: So I learned a lot about that from him, um,

 

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Anja: and he's just always so present.

 

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Anja: There's a reason that he's such an, you

 

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Anja: know, indie icon and I'm just so glad that

 

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Anja: ladder milk has popped off the way it has,

 

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Anja: because I think he deserves that lead role,

 

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Anja: you know, and to really be known for

 

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Anja: something.

 

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Marc: Yeah, it's not really what you call a

 

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Marc: sleeper.

 

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Marc: I don't know what you call it, but it's not

 

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Marc: something that was heavily promoted.

 

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Marc: That I that I can recall.

 

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Marc: I just kept seeing the little icon pop up

 

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Marc: on Netflix.

 

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Marc: I was like I'll check it out.

 

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Marc: I was working on my laptop.

 

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Marc: I'm like I don't know how many up.

 

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Marc: I think I Did a season in a day or so or

 

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Marc: like a day and a half.

 

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Anja: you know something like that no, no, no is

 

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Anja: a couple days.

 

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Marc: I went through it, it was but also will

 

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Marc: sasso.

 

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Marc: Whenever I see him show up in something,

 

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Marc: he's always just one of those guys like

 

452

00:14:36,546 --> 00:14:37,488

Marc: he's kind of want to watch him.

 

453

00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:40,513

Marc: His facial expression, so I can name a

 

454

00:14:40,594 --> 00:14:41,300

Marc: handful of things.

 

455

00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:42,244

Marc: He was one of those guys.

 

456

00:14:42,324 --> 00:14:43,930

Marc: It when he shows up in his scene you know

 

457

00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,536

Marc: it's gonna get interesting and I.

 

458

00:14:45,757 --> 00:14:47,744

Marc: But I got to know when you were first

 

459

00:14:47,804 --> 00:14:49,590

Marc: presented ladder milk, did you?

 

460

00:14:50,172 --> 00:14:51,476

Marc: Did you kind of like oh yeah, I'm gonna

 

461

00:14:51,496 --> 00:14:51,858

Marc: jump in?

 

462

00:14:51,918 --> 00:14:53,684

Marc: Or did you kind of Did take you a moment

 

463

00:14:53,724 --> 00:14:56,063

Marc: before you kind of Isolated what it was

 

464

00:14:56,123 --> 00:14:57,689

Marc: about and if you wanted to take part in it?

 

465

00:14:58,141 --> 00:15:00,707

Anja: Um, I mean, I right away wanted to be a

 

466

00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:04,022

Anja: part of it, because Ron and will are comedy

 

467

00:15:04,082 --> 00:15:04,503

Anja: legends.

 

468

00:15:04,543 --> 00:15:05,988

Anja: And then you have Peter Fairley, who's

 

469

00:15:06,049 --> 00:15:09,667

Anja: obviously a you know Hollywood, a list

 

470

00:15:09,907 --> 00:15:11,231

Anja: director in my eyes.

 

471

00:15:11,351 --> 00:15:13,858

Anja: He's created so many careers, he's created

 

472

00:15:13,918 --> 00:15:16,808

Anja: an entire new Subsect of comedy, I would

 

473

00:15:16,948 --> 00:15:17,229

Anja: argue.

 

474

00:15:18,201 --> 00:15:19,625

Anja: So I knew I wanted to be a part of it.

 

475

00:15:19,685 --> 00:15:21,731

Marc: Oh, he's, he's, he's phenomenal, it plus

 

476

00:15:21,811 --> 00:15:21,972

Marc: also.

 

477

00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,908

Marc: I remember I had a chance to audition for

 

478

00:15:23,948 --> 00:15:27,507

Marc: him Twice once once or twice for the movie

 

479

00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,371

Marc: the green book, and he brought me back in

 

480

00:15:29,412 --> 00:15:30,985

Marc: and I was like, oh, you know those

 

481

00:15:31,005 --> 00:15:32,554

Marc: callbacks, they feel good because you feel

 

482

00:15:32,574 --> 00:15:33,540

Marc: like you've almost booked it.

 

483

00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,966

Marc: You know you got a callback of course and

 

484

00:15:36,407 --> 00:15:38,311

Marc: he was he's, he was looking and it was the

 

485

00:15:38,391 --> 00:15:40,366

Marc: longest audition I think I've ever done is

 

486

00:15:40,386 --> 00:15:44,284

Marc: about almost shy 10 minutes, which is and

 

487

00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,532

Marc: oh, you said, listen, I just don't see for

 

488

00:15:46,552 --> 00:15:46,993

Marc: this character.

 

489

00:15:47,013 --> 00:15:48,659

Marc: I was like I was gonna say thanks.

 

490

00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:50,446

Marc: So much, just a chance to audition for the

 

491

00:15:50,466 --> 00:15:51,902

Marc: guy that Directed.

 

492

00:15:51,962 --> 00:15:52,585

Marc: You know something about.

 

493

00:15:52,645 --> 00:15:53,528

Announcer: Mary come on.

 

494

00:15:53,709 --> 00:15:56,238

Marc: You know, but he said but, and he hands me

 

495

00:15:56,259 --> 00:15:56,640

Marc: some sides.

 

496

00:15:57,001 --> 00:15:57,943

Marc: He's correct, god in the hall.

 

497

00:15:57,963 --> 00:15:59,347

Marc: I want you to work on this character.

 

498

00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:01,452

Marc: I was like, oh, you see me for another

 

499

00:16:01,472 --> 00:16:01,793

Marc: character.

 

500

00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,225

Marc: I'm saying this internally, you know.

 

501

00:16:03,987 --> 00:16:04,429

Marc: And then the.

 

502

00:16:04,649 --> 00:16:05,964

Marc: You know I usually don't get a lot of

 

503

00:16:06,024 --> 00:16:07,482

Marc: nerves and auditions, but that's one of the

 

504

00:16:07,522 --> 00:16:09,208

Marc: first times I got nerves is like, oh, wait

 

505

00:16:09,228 --> 00:16:09,469

Marc: a minute.

 

506

00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,846

Marc: But they ended up not casting me and won an

 

507

00:16:11,886 --> 00:16:13,650

Marc: Academy Award and that's kind of thing if

 

508

00:16:13,690 --> 00:16:14,692

Marc: you, if you don't cast me.

 

509

00:16:15,521 --> 00:16:17,246

Marc: Last one was Dallas buyers club.

 

510

00:16:17,286 --> 00:16:18,831

Marc: I remember I got really close to getting in.

 

511

00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:22,530

Marc: So it's sort of like you know don't cast me,

 

512

00:16:22,992 --> 00:16:23,875

Marc: bring me in for a callback.

 

513

00:16:23,895 --> 00:16:25,300

Marc: Don't cast me, you'll get an Academy Award.

 

514

00:16:25,641 --> 00:16:27,925

Anja: Right, oh my god, you should tell everybody

 

515

00:16:28,346 --> 00:16:29,909

Anja: but that wasn't really a funny movie.

 

516

00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,214

Marc: Obviously, there was some comedic notes to

 

517

00:16:32,294 --> 00:16:32,334

Marc: it.

 

518

00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:34,248

Marc: Yeah but he kind of floats back and forth,

 

519

00:16:35,323 --> 00:16:35,603

Marc: did he?

 

520

00:16:35,764 --> 00:16:37,569

Marc: Has he directed any episodes of ladder mill?

 

521

00:16:37,889 --> 00:16:38,391

Anja: He, he.

 

522

00:16:38,451 --> 00:16:43,161

Anja: So he was a co-creator with Bobby Mort, so

 

523

00:16:43,201 --> 00:16:45,407

Anja: him and Peter did the series together,

 

524

00:16:45,768 --> 00:16:48,602

Anja: wrote a lot of it together, and Peter

 

525

00:16:48,642 --> 00:16:51,169

Anja: directed the full first season and then for

 

526

00:16:51,209 --> 00:16:54,127

Anja: the second and third Peter and Bobby fairly

 

527

00:16:54,207 --> 00:16:57,392

Anja: shared the load, so it was a bit of both of

 

528

00:16:57,432 --> 00:16:57,593

Anja: them.

 

529

00:16:58,236 --> 00:16:59,160

Marc: That is very cool.

 

530

00:16:59,521 --> 00:17:01,184

Anja: Totally, and what's so cool about them as

 

531

00:17:01,244 --> 00:17:03,768

Anja: brothers is they're very different but they

 

532

00:17:03,849 --> 00:17:06,574

Anja: have the exact same viewpoints on pretty

 

533

00:17:06,594 --> 00:17:07,275

Anja: much everything.

 

534

00:17:07,822 --> 00:17:10,355

Anja: So it was basically like Peter was there

 

535

00:17:10,456 --> 00:17:12,405

Anja: when Bobby was there, so I think that's why

 

536

00:17:12,445 --> 00:17:13,670

Anja: the show feels very cohesive.

 

537

00:17:14,441 --> 00:17:14,922

Marc: Yeah, it does.

 

538

00:17:15,003 --> 00:17:16,928

Marc: It does because you know, working in TV,

 

539

00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:19,282

Marc: you have a different director every Episode

 

540

00:17:19,302 --> 00:17:19,904

Marc: a lot of times.

 

541

00:17:19,924 --> 00:17:21,930

Anja: Yeah, exactly, so that's kind of a gift to

 

542

00:17:21,950 --> 00:17:24,398

Anja: have the same guy every, every episode.

 

543

00:17:24,558 --> 00:17:25,180

Anja: Yeah, that's nice.

 

544

00:17:25,984 --> 00:17:26,869

Marc: What I'm curious about that.

 

545

00:17:26,909 --> 00:17:27,894

Marc: That's a great ensemble.

 

546

00:17:27,934 --> 00:17:28,397

Marc: It's fun.

 

547

00:17:28,457 --> 00:17:28,960

Marc: I enjoy it.

 

548

00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,845

Marc: I mean I'm glad I'm only a season and a

 

549

00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:32,530

Marc: half in because I still got more to enjoy

 

550

00:17:32,590 --> 00:17:33,212

Marc: for the first time.

 

551

00:17:33,902 --> 00:17:37,166

Marc: But Ricky's Stanicki is that how these are?

 

552

00:17:37,206 --> 00:17:38,308

Marc: Stanick Stanicki, right?

 

553

00:17:38,509 --> 00:17:39,271

Anja: Ricky Stanicki.

 

554

00:17:39,311 --> 00:17:42,363

Marc: Yeah, that's another Real interesting

 

555

00:17:42,443 --> 00:17:42,944

Marc: ensemble.

 

556

00:17:43,125 --> 00:17:45,010

Marc: How did that project kind of materialize

 

557

00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:45,391

Marc: for you?

 

558

00:17:45,712 --> 00:17:48,766

Anja: Yeah, well, I know they've been trying to

 

559

00:17:48,786 --> 00:17:51,896

Anja: make that movie for like ten years and they

 

560

00:17:51,916 --> 00:17:53,200

Anja: had a lot of different people attached.

 

561

00:17:53,541 --> 00:17:55,507

Anja: I think Jim Carrey at one point was meant

 

562

00:17:55,527 --> 00:17:58,623

Anja: to play Ricky Stanicki and then I guess

 

563

00:17:58,683 --> 00:18:00,508

Anja: finally the funding came through and they

 

564

00:18:00,528 --> 00:18:01,651

Anja: were able to make it.

 

565

00:18:01,752 --> 00:18:04,603

Anja: And yeah, it came through.

 

566

00:18:04,643 --> 00:18:06,869

Anja: I mean, I've known Peter for so long now,

 

567

00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:09,885

Anja: with working on ladder milk, and I've

 

568

00:18:09,925 --> 00:18:11,538

Anja: auditioned for some of his other projects

 

569

00:18:11,598 --> 00:18:14,289

Anja: as well, and this one just kind of felt

 

570

00:18:14,309 --> 00:18:16,237

Anja: like the right fit and it was also really

 

571

00:18:16,257 --> 00:18:17,120

Anja: exciting opportunity.

 

572

00:18:17,382 --> 00:18:19,336

Anja: We shot this in Australia, in Melbourne.

 

573

00:18:19,497 --> 00:18:21,164

Marc: Oh, really so it was.

 

574

00:18:21,906 --> 00:18:25,944

Anja: Yeah, that was a really Cool aspect of the

 

575

00:18:25,984 --> 00:18:26,406

Anja: project.

 

576

00:18:26,466 --> 00:18:29,082

Anja: I had never been there, and Traveling for

 

577

00:18:29,122 --> 00:18:30,948

Anja: work is always fun, especially for a movie

 

578

00:18:30,968 --> 00:18:33,062

Anja: where it's a shorter shoot, so it's not

 

579

00:18:33,082 --> 00:18:35,087

Anja: like you're there for a whole year or, you

 

580

00:18:35,127 --> 00:18:36,410

Anja: know, six months or something.

 

581

00:18:37,132 --> 00:18:40,066

Anja: So that really drew me in as well.

 

582

00:18:40,689 --> 00:18:43,090

Anja: So, yeah, I really enjoyed it.

 

583

00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:44,277

Anja: It was a great ensemble.

 

584

00:18:44,418 --> 00:18:47,025

Anja: There is Lots of time to bond.

 

585

00:18:47,446 --> 00:18:50,192

Anja: No one could leave because it's so far away

 

586

00:18:50,352 --> 00:18:51,274

Anja: from anything.

 

587

00:18:52,062 --> 00:18:54,191

Anja: So on the weekends we all got to hang out

 

588

00:18:54,292 --> 00:18:56,321

Anja: and, you know, get to know each other, and

 

589

00:18:56,361 --> 00:18:57,926

Anja: I think that made it really special.

 

590

00:18:58,006 --> 00:18:59,470

Marc: Yeah, my daughter is doing her gap year

 

591

00:18:59,511 --> 00:19:01,649

Marc: between she graduated early from high

 

592

00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:03,199

Marc: school and she's gonna go to college in the

 

593

00:19:03,239 --> 00:19:03,380

Marc: fall.

 

594

00:19:03,580 --> 00:19:05,085

Marc: But she's doing her gap year and just kind

 

595

00:19:05,105 --> 00:19:05,686

Marc: of hanging out with me.

 

596

00:19:05,747 --> 00:19:07,492

Marc: I said, you know, I've always wanted to do

 

597

00:19:09,763 --> 00:19:11,677

Marc: Like a kind of be an expat for like a year

 

598

00:19:11,717 --> 00:19:14,367

Marc: or two and Melbourne's the destination

 

599

00:19:14,407 --> 00:19:14,949

Marc: where I want to go.

 

600

00:19:14,989 --> 00:19:15,511

Marc: I just didn't.

 

601

00:19:15,752 --> 00:19:18,180

Marc: It was to go down there without having yet

 

602

00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,428

Marc: it was just, you know, me being

 

603

00:19:19,488 --> 00:19:20,515

Marc: self-employed, it was.

 

604

00:19:20,918 --> 00:19:21,240

Marc: It was there.

 

605

00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:22,865

Marc: Well, it was just a little bit too much

 

606

00:19:22,945 --> 00:19:24,711

Marc: stuff to get put together to make it happen.

 

607

00:19:25,241 --> 00:19:27,189

Marc: There's also a cost factor of shipping

 

608

00:19:27,249 --> 00:19:28,434

Marc: everything because I've got a recording

 

609

00:19:28,474 --> 00:19:28,795

Marc: studio.

 

610

00:19:28,815 --> 00:19:30,020

Marc: I've got to get it all down to Australia.

 

611

00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,925

Marc: Yeah you said I said let's just go next to

 

612

00:19:31,945 --> 00:19:32,245

Marc: the beach.

 

613

00:19:32,305 --> 00:19:35,092

Marc: But but Melbourne, and that that's kind of

 

614

00:19:35,333 --> 00:19:38,148

Marc: a I want to say is it?

 

615

00:19:38,168 --> 00:19:40,218

Marc: My rent says kind of artsy, not artsy, but

 

616

00:19:40,258 --> 00:19:43,909

Marc: it's sort of it's, it's definitely.

 

617

00:19:44,229 --> 00:19:48,164

Marc: I kind of liken it to the arts are part of

 

618

00:19:48,184 --> 00:19:49,768

Marc: the ecosystem, is that right?

 

619

00:19:49,908 --> 00:19:50,811

Anja: totally it's.

 

620

00:19:50,911 --> 00:19:52,375

Anja: It's a very bustling city.

 

621

00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:54,040

Anja: People are super social.

 

622

00:19:54,502 --> 00:19:55,811

Anja: There's lots of art everywhere.

 

623

00:19:55,931 --> 00:19:57,320

Anja: The architecture is amazing.

 

624

00:19:57,481 --> 00:19:59,340

Anja: They have like a lot of old and new things,

 

625

00:19:59,601 --> 00:20:01,887

Anja: but everything really melds nicely and I

 

626

00:20:01,907 --> 00:20:03,130

Anja: think we all fell in love with it.

 

627

00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:05,005

Anja: When we were there, everyone had a moment

 

628

00:20:05,025 --> 00:20:06,612

Anja: where they were kind of like damn, like I'd

 

629

00:20:06,652 --> 00:20:08,480

Anja: love to live here, it's just so far away,

 

630

00:20:09,824 --> 00:20:11,169

Anja: so far away from everything.

 

631

00:20:11,309 --> 00:20:14,107

Anja: But um, yeah, I don't know, maybe Australia

 

632

00:20:14,167 --> 00:20:15,071

Anja: is a little underrated.

 

633

00:20:15,392 --> 00:20:16,736

Marc: Maybe Australians like that, so not

 

634

00:20:16,777 --> 00:20:17,720

Marc: everybody comes down there.

 

635

00:20:18,723 --> 00:20:19,706

Anja: I think they might.

 

636

00:20:20,006 --> 00:20:22,703

Anja: Yeah, I mean, the only thing I could Think

 

637

00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:24,311

Anja: about when I thought of Australia was all

 

638

00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:26,180

Anja: the spiders and snakes and all that stuff.

 

639

00:20:26,301 --> 00:20:29,217

Anja: But honestly, being in a city, that's not

 

640

00:20:29,257 --> 00:20:32,825

Anja: really as as big of a deal, so I didn't

 

641

00:20:32,865 --> 00:20:34,068

Anja: really worry about that I.

 

642

00:20:40,941 --> 00:20:42,672

Marc: Forgot that Peter Fairley directed that as

 

643

00:20:42,752 --> 00:20:42,994

Marc: well.

 

644

00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:44,322

Marc: So you must have been kind of nice, you're

 

645

00:20:44,342 --> 00:20:46,474

Marc: like yes, uh, you know we're old friends,

 

646

00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:47,460

Marc: you know you had that shorthand.

 

647

00:20:47,882 --> 00:20:50,134

Marc: You know, you know that was part of my

 

648

00:20:50,174 --> 00:20:51,581

Marc: ignorance on the timeline here, but you

 

649

00:20:51,601 --> 00:20:53,651

Marc: were already doing louder milk before they

 

650

00:20:53,691 --> 00:20:54,334

Marc: went into production.

 

651

00:20:54,394 --> 00:20:55,540

Marc: On Ricky Stenicke, correct?

 

652

00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,302

Anja: Totally.

 

653

00:20:56,382 --> 00:20:58,005

Anja: We had already wrapped louder milk.

 

654

00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:00,130

Anja: Yeah, it had been a couple years since we

 

655

00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:05,044

Anja: had finished our last season and, yeah, he

 

656

00:21:05,324 --> 00:21:08,403

Anja: called me and I got that part and Got to

 

657

00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:10,009

Anja: see him again and it was just.

 

658

00:21:10,672 --> 00:21:12,359

Anja: It just felt right away like old times.

 

659

00:21:12,419 --> 00:21:14,304

Anja: You know, he is such a friendly guy and

 

660

00:21:14,364 --> 00:21:15,827

Anja: he's so easy to get along with and

 

661

00:21:15,867 --> 00:21:18,172

Anja: collaborate with and what's so cool is he's

 

662

00:21:18,192 --> 00:21:20,405

Anja: also a really Loyal person.

 

663

00:21:20,687 --> 00:21:22,374

Anja: If he likes you and he likes working with

 

664

00:21:22,394 --> 00:21:23,580

Anja: you, he wants to work with you again.

 

665

00:21:24,323 --> 00:21:26,653

Anja: So it was just nice to be back and feel so

 

666

00:21:26,713 --> 00:21:27,235

Anja: welcomed.

 

667

00:21:27,336 --> 00:21:30,194

Anja: And you know, I came in a week after they'd

 

668

00:21:30,214 --> 00:21:31,683

Anja: already started shooting, but everyone

 

669

00:21:31,703 --> 00:21:33,370

Anja: already knew who I was because he'd already

 

670

00:21:33,772 --> 00:21:35,499

Anja: told them that I was coming and that you

 

671

00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,944

Anja: know I was great and all this stuff and I

 

672

00:21:36,964 --> 00:21:38,630

Anja: was like, oh, my god, it's so sweet.

 

673

00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,007

Anja: So, yeah, it was just a lovely shoot and I

 

674

00:21:42,027 --> 00:21:42,749

Anja: love working with him.

 

675

00:21:42,841 --> 00:21:44,294

Marc: He's a I'm curious how they ended up in

 

676

00:21:44,335 --> 00:21:46,283

Marc: Australia, though, was it was without

 

677

00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:47,125

Marc: giving anything away.

 

678

00:21:47,185 --> 00:21:49,409

Marc: Was Australia part of the story, or it just

 

679

00:21:49,449 --> 00:21:50,832

Marc: happened to be that that was a location

 

680

00:21:50,852 --> 00:21:51,494

Marc: that worked for?

 

681

00:21:51,901 --> 00:21:53,926

Anja: It has absolutely nothing to do with the

 

682

00:21:53,966 --> 00:21:54,367

Anja: story.

 

683

00:21:54,768 --> 00:21:57,300

Anja: I think it was a tax break situation, I

 

684

00:21:57,321 --> 00:21:58,645

Anja: think it was just cheaper to shoot there

 

685

00:21:58,765 --> 00:22:01,861

Anja: and I think also people wanted to Be

 

686

00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,008

Anja: somewhere where it was sunny and and nice

 

687

00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:08,401

Anja: and it was summertime in Australia, so you

 

688

00:22:08,421 --> 00:22:10,467

Anja: know, we got to enjoy that and well, it was

 

689

00:22:10,527 --> 00:22:12,592

Anja: a summer for them, or was it summer?

 

690

00:22:14,322 --> 00:22:15,345

Anja: It was summer in Australia.

 

691

00:22:15,525 --> 00:22:17,230

Marc: Okay, so it'd be winter for us, that thing

 

692

00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:18,843

Marc: always kind of yeah, they talk about

 

693

00:22:18,863 --> 00:22:20,467

Marc: Christmas down there being warm.

 

694

00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:22,793

Anja: I know I can't imagine.

 

695

00:22:23,661 --> 00:22:25,687

Marc: But John Cena he plays Ricky Stanicky

 

696

00:22:25,727 --> 00:22:27,352

Marc: correct and that's right.

 

697

00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,558

Marc: Yes, he does yeah and I was looking at

 

698

00:22:29,578 --> 00:22:30,722

Marc: Jermaine Fowler's and this.

 

699

00:22:30,742 --> 00:22:32,066

Marc: I had a chance to chat with him just a few

 

700

00:22:32,086 --> 00:22:35,903

Marc: weeks ago actually, so Such a cool dude,

 

701

00:22:36,325 --> 00:22:37,007

Marc: very cool dude.

 

702

00:22:37,207 --> 00:22:38,110

Anja: He's a great guy.

 

703

00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:39,133

Anja: Yeah, he's great guy.

 

704

00:22:39,174 --> 00:22:40,076

Anja: Super funny too.

 

705

00:22:40,337 --> 00:22:42,203

Marc: Just awesome Can we say how long were you

 

706

00:22:42,223 --> 00:22:44,751

Marc: down in down in Australia for in total?

 

707

00:22:45,181 --> 00:22:47,208

Anja: So I think for me it was about five weeks,

 

708

00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:51,648

Anja: yeah, and I really enjoyed it.

 

709

00:22:51,688 --> 00:22:53,433

Anja: I loved working with everyone in the cast.

 

710

00:22:54,845 --> 00:22:57,725

Anja: In the movie I play Andrew Santino's wife

 

711

00:22:58,408 --> 00:23:01,330

Anja: and I'm like heavily pregnant in it and he

 

712

00:23:01,390 --> 00:23:04,582

Anja: misses the birth of the baby and that's

 

713

00:23:04,622 --> 00:23:06,629

Anja: kind of when they start realizing that they

 

714

00:23:06,669 --> 00:23:08,214

Anja: need to bring in Ricky Stanicky so that

 

715

00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:09,919

Anja: they can prove that they have this friend

 

716

00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,569

Anja: and yeah, I mean that was all really fun.

 

717

00:23:13,629 --> 00:23:16,562

Anja: Just the unraveling of the story is a you

 

718

00:23:16,602 --> 00:23:16,883

Anja: know what.

 

719

00:23:16,943 --> 00:23:19,642

Anja: It reminds me a lot of like the more 2000s,

 

720

00:23:20,023 --> 00:23:22,831

Anja: older, fairly brother stuff where it's kind

 

721

00:23:22,851 --> 00:23:25,258

Anja: of a simple premise and the fun is in the

 

722

00:23:25,298 --> 00:23:25,960

Anja: silliness of it.

 

723

00:23:26,481 --> 00:23:28,928

Marc: Yeah, the situation just gets progressively

 

724

00:23:28,988 --> 00:23:30,432

Marc: more absurd as they go along.

 

725

00:23:30,472 --> 00:23:30,672

Marc: Yeah.

 

726

00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,232

Anja: Exactly, and I feel like that kind of

 

727

00:23:33,273 --> 00:23:34,380

Anja: comedy is missing now.

 

728

00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,302

Anja: You know everything.

 

729

00:23:35,432 --> 00:23:37,875

Anja: I feel like comedy now is just wrapped into

 

730

00:23:38,005 --> 00:23:39,900

Anja: every genre instead of just being

 

731

00:23:40,030 --> 00:23:41,011

Anja: standalone, and I like that.

 

732

00:23:41,031 --> 00:23:43,274

Anja: This is just a standalone, funny, silly

 

733

00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:43,694

Anja: story.

 

734

00:23:43,734 --> 00:23:44,595

Anja: You can relax too.

 

735

00:23:44,655 --> 00:23:45,857

Marc: You know, thank you for saying that.

 

736

00:23:47,121 --> 00:23:48,644

Marc: Yeah, my daughter and I were going through

 

737

00:23:49,145 --> 00:23:50,588

Marc: trying to find on the different streamers,

 

738

00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,134

Marc: trying to find just a comedy like circa

 

739

00:23:53,761 --> 00:23:55,447

Marc: late 90s, maybe you know, like a good

 

740

00:23:55,487 --> 00:23:58,185

Marc: example is Judd Apatow.

 

741

00:23:58,346 --> 00:24:00,435

Marc: Anything he did, it was just you kind of

 

742

00:24:00,475 --> 00:24:01,560

Marc: buying the absurdity of it.

 

743

00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,128

Marc: It's just kind of fun, like a no matter

 

744

00:24:03,148 --> 00:24:05,139

Marc: something like that but there aren't really

 

745

00:24:05,179 --> 00:24:05,280

Marc: there.

 

746

00:24:05,380 --> 00:24:07,005

Marc: You're right, there seems to be and this is

 

747

00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:08,589

Marc: maybe just my opinion just a kind of a

 

748

00:24:08,629 --> 00:24:11,764

Marc: shortage of good fun, quasi-goofy comedies

 

749

00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:13,368

Marc: that you can kind of disappear for a couple

 

750

00:24:13,428 --> 00:24:13,669

Marc: hours.

 

751

00:24:13,729 --> 00:24:15,172

Marc: You know, this is kind of my thing.

 

752

00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,025

Anja: Absolutely something you can just have on.

 

753

00:24:18,085 --> 00:24:19,949

Anja: You can again, you can turn on again and

 

754

00:24:19,989 --> 00:24:22,173

Anja: again, and again and just rewatch and laugh

 

755

00:24:22,334 --> 00:24:22,434

Anja: at.

 

756

00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,544

Anja: So I think that'll be this and I really

 

757

00:24:24,584 --> 00:24:26,909

Anja: hope it's it does well and people enjoy it

 

758

00:24:26,969 --> 00:24:29,634

Anja: because it's yeah, it's silly and fun and,

 

759

00:24:30,948 --> 00:24:31,652

Anja: yeah, I love it.

 

760

00:24:32,356 --> 00:24:34,767

Marc: I forgot to ask you we do your parents and

 

761

00:24:34,787 --> 00:24:36,815

Marc: the arts at all, or they in any kind of

 

762

00:24:36,855 --> 00:24:38,080

Marc: performance or anything like that.

 

763

00:24:38,341 --> 00:24:40,909

Anja: No, no, my parents were never really into

 

764

00:24:40,929 --> 00:24:41,411

Anja: the arts.

 

765

00:24:43,081 --> 00:24:46,510

Anja: My grandma had like a brother that was a

 

766

00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:50,003

Anja: playwright and Theater director, and so she

 

767

00:24:50,043 --> 00:24:51,827

Anja: always says that, oh, you pulled from this

 

768

00:24:52,108 --> 00:24:54,092

Anja: brother I had, you know, but no one else in

 

769

00:24:54,112 --> 00:24:56,486

Anja: my family is Really about artsy.

 

770

00:24:56,506 --> 00:24:58,176

Anja: I think I have like a distant uncle that's

 

771

00:24:58,257 --> 00:25:01,209

Anja: a painter, but that's kind of where it ends.

 

772

00:25:02,581 --> 00:25:03,143

Anja: So, yeah, I don't.

 

773

00:25:03,163 --> 00:25:04,246

Anja: I don't know where it came from.

 

774

00:25:04,367 --> 00:25:05,570

Marc: Well, it's good that you kind of have that

 

775

00:25:05,610 --> 00:25:05,751

Marc: thing.

 

776

00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,956

Marc: It's your own thing, but also a lot of

 

777

00:25:07,976 --> 00:25:08,540

Marc: folks don't get it.

 

778

00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,205

Marc: You know, we're your parents down with it,

 

779

00:25:11,246 --> 00:25:13,791

Marc: like were they saying really acting, or

 

780

00:25:13,811 --> 00:25:15,214

Marc: were they like, hey, go for it.

 

781

00:25:15,421 --> 00:25:16,846

Marc: You know, did they have an opinion either

 

782

00:25:16,866 --> 00:25:17,047

Marc: way?

 

783

00:25:18,748 --> 00:25:18,971

Anja: It was.

 

784

00:25:19,012 --> 00:25:19,539

Anja: It was tricky.

 

785

00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,814

Anja: I think they were excited for me because I

 

786

00:25:22,895 --> 00:25:23,720

Anja: knew what I enjoyed.

 

787

00:25:24,422 --> 00:25:26,048

Anja: But at the same time they were worried that,

 

788

00:25:26,088 --> 00:25:28,135

Anja: you know, I wasn't gonna make enough money

 

789

00:25:28,196 --> 00:25:29,420

Anja: and I wouldn't be able to make a living.

 

790

00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:31,425

Anja: And of course I think that's every parent's

 

791

00:25:31,525 --> 00:25:34,293

Anja: fear, that you know you can't hold your own.

 

792

00:25:35,003 --> 00:25:36,918

Anja: But um, you know, I went to school, I went

 

793

00:25:36,938 --> 00:25:38,763

Anja: to university, I studied English and

 

794

00:25:38,823 --> 00:25:40,707

Anja: business and I thought, you know, one day

 

795

00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:43,513

Anja: I'll get a more regular office type job.

 

796

00:25:43,594 --> 00:25:45,980

Anja: And After I finished school I thought, okay,

 

797

00:25:46,181 --> 00:25:48,068

Anja: I'll do acting for another year and I'll

 

798

00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:48,811

Anja: see what happens.

 

799

00:25:49,112 --> 00:25:50,960

Anja: And then, you know, if it's not working out,

 

800

00:25:51,161 --> 00:25:52,607

Anja: I'll maybe find some other ways.

 

801

00:25:53,411 --> 00:25:55,380

Anja: And I booked ladder milk.

 

802

00:25:55,801 --> 00:25:58,346

Anja: So from there I kind of just kept going and

 

803

00:25:59,308 --> 00:26:01,533

Anja: I haven't jumped to the plan B yet.

 

804

00:26:01,793 --> 00:26:04,906

Marc: So Hopefully never well, they said what

 

805

00:26:04,926 --> 00:26:06,471

Marc: I've heard to talk to so many people that

 

806

00:26:06,511 --> 00:26:09,088

Marc: said Something to the effect of if you can

 

807

00:26:09,128 --> 00:26:11,277

Marc: see yourself doing anything else, you know

 

808

00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:11,960

Marc: realistically.

 

809

00:26:12,201 --> 00:26:13,646

Marc: Yeah, it's probably it for you, and I think

 

810

00:26:13,666 --> 00:26:16,784

Marc: that's a lot of the folks who Do this.

 

811

00:26:17,006 --> 00:26:18,534

Marc: It's, this is in their DNA.

 

812

00:26:18,695 --> 00:26:19,339

Marc: They got to do it.

 

813

00:26:19,439 --> 00:26:21,157

Marc: Yeah, yeah you found something you're

 

814

00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:22,749

Marc: passionate about and I love.

 

815

00:26:22,883 --> 00:26:23,945

Marc: You know ladder milk.

 

816

00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,507

Marc: For me was was a pleasant surprise.

 

817

00:26:26,507 --> 00:26:28,251

Marc: I did not know is one of those things you

 

818

00:26:28,271 --> 00:26:28,652

Marc: walk into.

 

819

00:26:28,672 --> 00:26:31,643

Marc: I have no idea About anything, what to

 

820

00:26:31,683 --> 00:26:34,731

Marc: expect, but of course being in recovery is

 

821

00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:38,246

Marc: a big, big thing, naturally, in this did

 

822

00:26:38,466 --> 00:26:41,313

Marc: did you do any preparation for that by

 

823

00:26:42,741 --> 00:26:44,305

Marc: Going and attending any meetings?

 

824

00:26:44,687 --> 00:26:47,074

Marc: How did you prepare for to play this

 

825

00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:47,435

Marc: character?

 

826

00:26:47,595 --> 00:26:49,160

Anja: Yeah, I did a lot of research.

 

827

00:26:49,666 --> 00:26:52,945

Anja: I, first of all, I have people in my life

 

828

00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:55,271

Anja: that have dealt with substance abuse in

 

829

00:26:55,291 --> 00:26:58,124

Anja: different ways, so Talking to them was

 

830

00:26:58,485 --> 00:27:00,311

Anja: probably the most eye-opening and

 

831

00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,143

Anja: Interesting way to learn.

 

832

00:27:03,745 --> 00:27:07,054

Anja: And then I watched a lot of stuff on

 

833

00:27:07,134 --> 00:27:09,019

Anja: YouTube that I found there was like some

 

834

00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,086

Anja: very interesting Docs about addiction.

 

835

00:27:11,126 --> 00:27:14,866

Anja: I mean, even just watching what's that?

 

836

00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:15,711

Anja: What's that show?

 

837

00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:19,104

Anja: The really popular one when people are

 

838

00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:19,985

Anja: trying to get off drugs?

 

839

00:27:20,747 --> 00:27:22,570

Marc: Oh, is it like a reality show or yes?

 

840

00:27:22,971 --> 00:27:25,175

Anja: Yes, yes, yes, it's very dark.

 

841

00:27:26,301 --> 00:27:30,550

Anja: Anyway, I watched a bunch of that and I'm I

 

842

00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:34,363

Anja: just sort of tried to Put myself in her

 

843

00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:36,008

Anja: shoes, just reading through, reading the

 

844

00:27:36,048 --> 00:27:39,546

Anja: script and, and you know, being on set and

 

845

00:27:39,686 --> 00:27:42,844

Anja: asking questions and that kind of thing.

 

846

00:27:43,367 --> 00:27:46,826

Anja: So, yeah, I think there's all kinds of ways

 

847

00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:49,931

Anja: to to find your character and, especially

 

848

00:27:49,951 --> 00:27:51,313

Anja: with a topic this difficult, I think

 

849

00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,010

Anja: Addictions are also prevalent in other

 

850

00:27:54,171 --> 00:27:55,337

Anja: aspects of life too.

 

851

00:27:55,438 --> 00:27:58,944

Anja: Like, for me it's not so much substances,

 

852

00:27:59,064 --> 00:28:01,308

Anja: but you know there's other things that

 

853

00:28:02,591 --> 00:28:05,036

Anja: maybe we deal with, that you know, repeated

 

854

00:28:05,056 --> 00:28:06,826

Anja: behaviors or whatever that we're trying to

 

855

00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:08,831

Anja: curb, and it's like I get it.

 

856

00:28:09,111 --> 00:28:12,786

Anja: So that was a really interesting aspect of

 

857

00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:14,691

Anja: the show and I'm so glad that so many

 

858

00:28:14,711 --> 00:28:17,097

Anja: people connected to it, because obviously

 

859

00:28:17,157 --> 00:28:19,471

Anja: it's a big, a big point, yeah, and I think

 

860

00:28:19,491 --> 00:28:20,497

Anja: it was handled very well.

 

861

00:28:20,578 --> 00:28:21,765

Marc: I don't think it was meant that it was

 

862

00:28:21,845 --> 00:28:24,070

Marc: meant to be cuted up.

 

863

00:28:24,171 --> 00:28:24,572

Marc: Is that a word?

 

864

00:28:24,612 --> 00:28:26,015

Marc: I don't know In any way.

 

865

00:28:26,035 --> 00:28:27,566

Marc: I mean there was some humor that was in

 

866

00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:28,810

Marc: there, but I like kind of like you, you had

 

867

00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:29,592

Marc: people in your life.

 

868

00:28:29,672 --> 00:28:31,427

Marc: Now, I didn't have anybody that I was, that

 

869

00:28:31,447 --> 00:28:33,873

Marc: I was aware of, necessarily in my life, but

 

870

00:28:34,093 --> 00:28:36,238

Marc: I came up as a young kid, starting at 17.

 

871

00:28:36,345 --> 00:28:39,979

Marc: I started working in radio and so I liked

 

872

00:28:40,019 --> 00:28:41,404

Marc: hanging out with the guys and Gray Harry.

 

873

00:28:41,424 --> 00:28:43,111

Marc: Now they had really good stories about the

 

874

00:28:43,151 --> 00:28:46,102

Marc: other days way back when but a lot of that

 

875

00:28:46,563 --> 00:28:48,288

Marc: some aspect of recovery was part of their

 

876

00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:48,689

Marc: life.

 

877

00:28:48,910 --> 00:28:50,975

Marc: So I had a chance to kind of see them after

 

878

00:28:51,035 --> 00:28:52,057

Marc: the storm, as it were.

 

879

00:28:52,326 --> 00:28:54,396

Marc: You know, and then the young guys I was

 

880

00:28:54,436 --> 00:28:55,903

Marc: coming up with, some of them were going a

 

881

00:28:55,943 --> 00:28:56,746

Marc: little off the rail.

 

882

00:28:56,786 --> 00:28:59,031

Marc: So it's kind of seeing an A B comparison,

 

883

00:28:59,132 --> 00:28:59,573

Marc: if you will.

 

884

00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:00,615

Marc: You know before and after.

 

885

00:29:01,257 --> 00:29:02,648

Marc: And I just got to the point.

 

886

00:29:02,668 --> 00:29:04,675

Marc: I was like you know what I'm seeing, kind

 

887

00:29:04,695 --> 00:29:06,326

Marc: of weird things could go and I'm just not

 

888

00:29:06,346 --> 00:29:06,988

Marc: going to go do that.

 

889

00:29:07,589 --> 00:29:10,075

Marc: But I do think it does call upon you to say

 

890

00:29:10,256 --> 00:29:11,906

Marc: how much of this is just built into your

 

891

00:29:11,947 --> 00:29:12,949

Marc: DNA, you know?

 

892

00:29:12,989 --> 00:29:15,013

Marc: You know which some people it is, you know

 

893

00:29:15,414 --> 00:29:16,296

Marc: absolutely.

 

894

00:29:16,617 --> 00:29:17,018

Marc: So are you?

 

895

00:29:17,426 --> 00:29:19,034

Marc: Are you working on anything right now?

 

896

00:29:19,215 --> 00:29:20,762

Marc: Are you kind of taking a little break or

 

897

00:29:21,003 --> 00:29:22,046

Marc: what you have going?

 

898

00:29:22,106 --> 00:29:22,587

Anja: on.

 

899

00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:24,350

Anja: I'm on a little break right now.

 

900

00:29:25,793 --> 00:29:28,678

Anja: I just worked on recently a show called

 

901

00:29:28,718 --> 00:29:32,051

Anja: Tracker that's coming out in a couple days

 

902

00:29:32,713 --> 00:29:33,455

Anja: and that was really fun.

 

903

00:29:33,495 --> 00:29:35,986

Anja: Just a little guest star on that and yeah,

 

904

00:29:36,006 --> 00:29:38,151

Anja: just things in the works but not solidified

 

905

00:29:38,191 --> 00:29:40,016

Anja: yet so can't talk about them.

 

906

00:29:40,116 --> 00:29:41,849

Marc: But Well, how are you spending your time,

 

907

00:29:41,889 --> 00:29:42,069

Marc: though?

 

908

00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,414

Marc: I mean, what now that, now that you don't

 

909

00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:45,050

Marc: have schedules to be on?

 

910

00:29:45,170 --> 00:29:47,119

Marc: Is it just relaxation, or do you have

 

911

00:29:47,139 --> 00:29:47,480

Marc: things like?

 

912

00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:48,786

Marc: I've been meaning to do this thing?

 

913

00:29:49,670 --> 00:29:51,236

Anja: Totally Well, I'm working on a lot of

 

914

00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:51,638

Anja: writing.

 

915

00:29:51,818 --> 00:29:53,525

Anja: I have a writing partner, my friend Taylor

 

916

00:29:53,665 --> 00:29:53,906

Anja: Hill.

 

917

00:29:54,528 --> 00:29:56,413

Anja: Her and I write together and we're working

 

918

00:29:56,474 --> 00:30:00,144

Anja: on a comedy like a two best friend, two

 

919

00:30:00,165 --> 00:30:02,415

Anja: female best friends, parallel world type of

 

920

00:30:02,435 --> 00:30:02,756

Anja: thing.

 

921

00:30:02,817 --> 00:30:04,284

Anja: So we're working on that and hopefully

 

922

00:30:04,304 --> 00:30:05,167

Anja: trying to get that made.

 

923

00:30:06,752 --> 00:30:09,120

Anja: And other than that, you know, auditions

 

924

00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:12,488

Anja: here and there, some meetings and lots of

 

925

00:30:12,508 --> 00:30:13,650

Anja: getting outside in nature.

 

926

00:30:14,372 --> 00:30:17,577

Anja: Recently I moved to a little more like of a

 

927

00:30:17,697 --> 00:30:21,554

Anja: forested area in BC, near in Vancouver, and

 

928

00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:23,199

Anja: I'm just kind of getting outside and

 

929

00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:25,447

Anja: enjoying the nature and kind of getting

 

930

00:30:27,273 --> 00:30:28,416

Anja: getting more into the rain.

 

931

00:30:28,757 --> 00:30:29,600

Anja: It rains here a lot.

 

932

00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,306

Anja: It's the Pacific Northwest, so it's like

 

933

00:30:31,486 --> 00:30:34,794

Anja: constantly a downpour and I'm just I think

 

934

00:30:34,854 --> 00:30:39,064

Anja: I'm finally really enjoying the the, the

 

935

00:30:39,104 --> 00:30:41,170

Anja: rain and all the greenery that it causes.

 

936

00:30:42,513 --> 00:30:44,138

Anja: I've also really been enjoying traveling.

 

937

00:30:44,338 --> 00:30:47,929

Anja: So my partner and I we went to Europe and

 

938

00:30:48,892 --> 00:30:50,838

Anja: traveled around there, visited my family in

 

939

00:30:50,858 --> 00:30:53,607

Anja: Bosnia, which was super fun and like

 

940

00:30:53,748 --> 00:30:55,857

Anja: interesting to have him yeah, to have him

 

941

00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:57,605

Anja: integrated into, like my family, my grandma.

 

942

00:30:57,745 --> 00:30:59,370

Marc: So you still have a good connection to

 

943

00:30:59,771 --> 00:31:01,796

Marc: Bosnia and you have a lot of family that

 

944

00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,237

Marc: was left there.

 

945

00:31:02,546 --> 00:31:04,233

Anja: I do, yeah, I think when you left.

 

946

00:31:04,293 --> 00:31:05,397

Marc: Wasn't that right about the?

 

947

00:31:05,939 --> 00:31:07,506

Marc: I mean, I'm not totally sure of the

 

948

00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:08,449

Marc: timeline.

 

949

00:31:09,052 --> 00:31:09,473

Marc: Yeah, it was.

 

950

00:31:09,815 --> 00:31:10,919

Marc: It was right when the war was starting,

 

951

00:31:10,939 --> 00:31:11,441

Marc: during the war.

 

952

00:31:11,561 --> 00:31:12,846

Anja: Yeah, that's right.

 

953

00:31:12,906 --> 00:31:15,772

Anja: Yeah, so I have a lot of family that stayed

 

954

00:31:16,153 --> 00:31:18,138

Anja: and I have a lot of family that left.

 

955

00:31:18,218 --> 00:31:20,269

Anja: There's, you know, I have family in Italy

 

956

00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:22,735

Anja: and in Germany and I think there's some

 

957

00:31:22,775 --> 00:31:26,233

Anja: people in Australia even, and it's, it's

 

958

00:31:26,273 --> 00:31:28,401

Anja: interesting, the diasporic community and

 

959

00:31:28,441 --> 00:31:29,364

Anja: then the people that stayed.

 

960

00:31:29,384 --> 00:31:32,295

Anja: There's like a real difference of culture,

 

961

00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:34,503

Anja: right, because the kids are growing up in

 

962

00:31:34,523 --> 00:31:35,085

Anja: different places.

 

963

00:31:35,947 --> 00:31:37,391

Marc: Now how old were you when you left again?

 

964

00:31:38,093 --> 00:31:39,797

Anja: I was three, so I was quite young.

 

965

00:31:40,425 --> 00:31:42,553

Marc: Do you have any echoes of memories of that

 

966

00:31:42,593 --> 00:31:43,034

Marc: time at all?

 

967

00:31:43,725 --> 00:31:45,048

Anja: Not really not much.

 

968

00:31:45,128 --> 00:31:47,794

Anja: I actually do remember being in Serbia and

 

969

00:31:48,015 --> 00:31:50,226

Anja: my grandpa taking me to a play I think it

 

970

00:31:50,266 --> 00:31:51,951

Anja: was a puppet show and I remember it really

 

971

00:31:52,031 --> 00:31:53,676

Anja: stuck in my head and then he bought me a

 

972

00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:56,634

Anja: book on like performances, like puppetry.

 

973

00:31:56,655 --> 00:31:56,775

Marc: Really.

 

974

00:31:57,517 --> 00:31:59,544

Anja: So yeah, and I think of that now and I'm

 

975

00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:02,089

Anja: like, wow, I think I was already drawn to,

 

976

00:32:02,791 --> 00:32:05,376

Anja: you know, this sort of entertainment

 

977

00:32:05,997 --> 00:32:06,959

Anja: performer world.

 

978

00:32:08,605 --> 00:32:10,951

Anja: But yeah, I really enjoyed going back to

 

979

00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:13,336

Anja: the Balkans and traveling through Croatia

 

980

00:32:13,396 --> 00:32:15,992

Anja: and Montenegro and Bosnia and I think that

 

981

00:32:16,153 --> 00:32:16,976

Anja: area of the world.

 

982

00:32:17,036 --> 00:32:18,944

Marc: Coastal, like Croatia, somewhere I would

 

983

00:32:19,004 --> 00:32:21,534

Marc: love to go, it's gorgeous.

 

984

00:32:21,634 --> 00:32:23,200

Marc: I mean, Anthony Bourdain was kind of my

 

985

00:32:23,261 --> 00:32:24,686

Marc: spirit animal and I remember him going to

 

986

00:32:24,706 --> 00:32:25,007

Marc: Croatia.

 

987

00:32:25,027 --> 00:32:25,950

Announcer: once I was like wow.

 

988

00:32:26,512 --> 00:32:26,934

Marc: That was like.

 

989

00:32:26,974 --> 00:32:28,600

Marc: That looks like the coastal.

 

990

00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,085

Marc: You know that episode.

 

991

00:32:30,226 --> 00:32:31,150

Marc: He actually fell over.

 

992

00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:32,516

Marc: He had too much wine to drink.

 

993

00:32:32,557 --> 00:32:34,325

Marc: It was a hilarious it was a great episode.

 

994

00:32:34,486 --> 00:32:36,153

Marc: But it was like I had no idea what a

 

995

00:32:36,294 --> 00:32:38,143

Marc: beautiful, beautiful place, because I guess

 

996

00:32:38,183 --> 00:32:39,971

Marc: it's framed in my mind from years ago of

 

997

00:32:40,011 --> 00:32:41,838

Marc: being a place where war was happening and

 

998

00:32:42,441 --> 00:32:43,706

Marc: I'm sure kids these days will look at

 

999

00:32:43,767 --> 00:32:45,896

Marc: Ukraine the same way you know, and oh God

 

Speaker:

00:32:45,916 --> 00:32:47,845

Marc: yeah as I was kind of putting some things

 

Speaker:

00:32:47,945 --> 00:32:49,071

Marc: together just doing I don't know.

 

Speaker:

00:32:49,794 --> 00:32:51,723

Marc: I don't like to overly research when I chat

 

Speaker:

00:32:51,743 --> 00:32:52,867

Marc: with somebody because I'm going to forget

 

Speaker:

00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:54,632

Marc: to ask you a question or something.

 

Speaker:

00:32:54,672 --> 00:32:56,506

Marc: But we looked at, I think, your Instagram

 

Speaker:

00:32:56,907 --> 00:33:00,032

Marc: and did you road trip through Texas by any

 

Speaker:

00:33:00,072 --> 00:33:00,293

Marc: chance?

 

Speaker:

00:33:01,915 --> 00:33:03,178

Anja: I did so.

 

Speaker:

00:33:03,258 --> 00:33:05,947

Anja: I worked on a show called yeah, I worked on

 

Speaker:

00:33:05,987 --> 00:33:09,375

Anja: a show called Big Sky and we filmed that in

 

Speaker:

00:33:09,495 --> 00:33:10,577

Anja: Albuquerque, new Mexico.

 

Speaker:

00:33:10,758 --> 00:33:16,771

Anja: So I lived there for about eight months and

 

Speaker:

00:33:17,432 --> 00:33:20,958

Anja: during the weekends my husband and I would

 

Speaker:

00:33:20,998 --> 00:33:21,640

Anja: travel around.

 

Speaker:

00:33:21,765 --> 00:33:24,595

Anja: So we went into Texas, we visited some of

 

Speaker:

00:33:24,615 --> 00:33:26,944

Anja: the national parks in New Mexico and New

 

Speaker:

00:33:26,984 --> 00:33:31,058

Anja: Mexico, by the way, so underrated I think A

 

Speaker:

00:33:31,118 --> 00:33:32,564

Anja: lot of people think when they think

 

Speaker:

00:33:32,624 --> 00:33:34,769

Anja: Albuquerque, they think Breaking Bad and

 

Speaker:

00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:37,595

Anja: that's like where they stop, you know, but

 

Speaker:

00:33:37,636 --> 00:33:40,430

Anja: there's such, it's such a cool landscape.

 

Speaker:

00:33:40,731 --> 00:33:44,322

Anja: And for me, I really love Westerns, so all

 

Speaker:

00:33:44,342 --> 00:33:46,668

Anja: I could think about was Cormac McCarthy and,

 

Speaker:

00:33:46,729 --> 00:33:51,019

Anja: like you know, people on horses and like

 

Speaker:

00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:53,285

Anja: just you're the second guest I've had that

 

Speaker:

00:33:53,425 --> 00:33:54,067

Anja: mentioned him.

 

Speaker:

00:33:54,850 --> 00:33:55,251

Anja: Oh really.

 

Speaker:

00:33:55,291 --> 00:33:58,060

Marc: Yeah, garrett Dillahunt mentioned him

 

Speaker:

00:33:58,201 --> 00:33:59,525

Marc: before as somebody that was either

 

Speaker:

00:33:59,645 --> 00:34:01,730

Marc: influential or you really liked, so I gotta

 

Speaker:

00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,334

Marc: go read or check out this stuff?

 

Speaker:

00:34:03,795 --> 00:34:04,757

Anja: Oh, you have to.

 

Speaker:

00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,513

Anja: Yeah, he's incredible.

 

Speaker:

00:34:06,601 --> 00:34:08,179

Anja: I'm gonna make a note here, yeah, you

 

Speaker:

00:34:08,267 --> 00:34:09,301

Anja: should you know, so funny.

 

Speaker:

00:34:09,389 --> 00:34:10,740

Marc: I'll speak with somebody like you got to

 

Speaker:

00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,943

Marc: read this book or you got to check this

 

Speaker:

00:34:11,983 --> 00:34:13,048

Marc: thing out, and I'm like oh, absolutely,

 

Speaker:

00:34:13,088 --> 00:34:14,858

Marc: I'll write it down and I'll misplace the

 

Speaker:

00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:15,100

Marc: paper.

 

Speaker:

00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:15,663

Marc: I wrote it on me.

 

Speaker:

00:34:15,783 --> 00:34:16,746

Anja: Are you into Westerns?

 

Speaker:

00:34:16,867 --> 00:34:19,572

Anja: Do you like sort of the Deserty vibes you

 

Speaker:

00:34:19,613 --> 00:34:19,733

Anja: know?

 

Speaker:

00:34:19,793 --> 00:34:22,358

Marc: I'm not necessarily a big, big Western

 

Speaker:

00:34:22,485 --> 00:34:24,974

Marc: person, but if there's a good story behind

 

Speaker:

00:34:25,035 --> 00:34:27,363

Marc: it, I find that I can like any genre.

 

Speaker:

00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:29,090

Marc: If there's good story, it's either well

 

Speaker:

00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:29,833

Marc: acted or there's.

 

Speaker:

00:34:30,135 --> 00:34:30,436

Marc: You can.

 

Speaker:

00:34:30,918 --> 00:34:32,384

Marc: If it's a book, you can disappear into it

 

Speaker:

00:34:32,424 --> 00:34:35,695

Marc: and you can kind of your your mind's eye

 

Speaker:

00:34:35,816 --> 00:34:37,561

Marc: can kind of see it, you know that makes

 

Speaker:

00:34:37,582 --> 00:34:38,244

Marc: sense, of course.

 

Speaker:

00:34:38,364 --> 00:34:39,107

Anja: I think you'll.

 

Speaker:

00:34:39,268 --> 00:34:41,116

Anja: You'll start to enjoy the genre more if you

 

Speaker:

00:34:41,176 --> 00:34:42,843

Anja: check them out, because I wasn't a big

 

Speaker:

00:34:42,884 --> 00:34:45,070

Anja: Western fan either, and then, once I

 

Speaker:

00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,416

Anja: started reading him, I definitely changed

 

Speaker:

00:34:47,436 --> 00:34:47,857

Anja: my mind.

 

Speaker:

00:34:48,519 --> 00:34:50,827

Anja: He added a richness that I hadn't thought

 

Speaker:

00:34:50,867 --> 00:34:52,973

Anja: of before and a depth that I was like wow.

 

Speaker:

00:34:53,594 --> 00:34:54,597

Anja: So I think you'll enjoy.

 

Speaker:

00:34:54,645 --> 00:34:55,717

Marc: Well, you're a big sky.

 

Speaker:

00:34:55,775 --> 00:34:57,479

Marc: That's one of the shows and there's so much

 

Speaker:

00:34:57,537 --> 00:34:59,090

Marc: stuff out there that I really want to check

 

Speaker:

00:34:59,210 --> 00:35:03,282

Marc: out that I just would gas to have on them

 

Speaker:

00:35:03,322 --> 00:35:04,325

Marc: on to make sure I'm watching some of their

 

Speaker:

00:35:04,465 --> 00:35:04,766

Marc: stuff.

 

Speaker:

00:35:04,806 --> 00:35:06,470

Anja: Oh God, you can't watch everything, that'd

 

Speaker:

00:35:06,490 --> 00:35:07,212

Anja: be crazy.

 

Speaker:

00:35:07,393 --> 00:35:10,529

Marc: But big sky is one is Kylie, Kylie Bunbury

 

Speaker:

00:35:10,629 --> 00:35:11,752

Marc: is that her name, Kylie?

 

Speaker:

00:35:11,792 --> 00:35:12,374

Anja: Bunbury.

 

Speaker:

00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:13,557

Anja: Yeah, she was one of the leads.

 

Speaker:

00:35:14,525 --> 00:35:18,293

Marc: Yeah, that anything she's in and she was in

 

Speaker:

00:35:18,313 --> 00:35:20,478

Marc: the show my Daughter Light, or she was a

 

Speaker:

00:35:20,538 --> 00:35:22,129

Marc: picture, major league picture, and she

 

Speaker:

00:35:22,149 --> 00:35:23,393

Marc: really liked it, and so whatever she shows

 

Speaker:

00:35:23,453 --> 00:35:26,271

Marc: up in, I really, I really enjoy yeah she's

 

Speaker:

00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:27,034

Marc: fantastic.

 

Speaker:

00:35:27,054 --> 00:35:27,495

Marc: She was in.

 

Speaker:

00:35:27,535 --> 00:35:28,458

Marc: Was it Game Night?

 

Speaker:

00:35:29,381 --> 00:35:30,645

Marc: Oh yeah, she was in Game Night.

 

Speaker:

00:35:30,645 --> 00:35:31,992

Anja: That was a great movie.

 

Speaker:

00:35:32,099 --> 00:35:33,160

Anja: I loved that film.

 

Speaker:

00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:33,966

Anja: That was really fun.

 

Speaker:

00:35:34,072 --> 00:35:35,620

Marc: Again that kind of comedy, you can kind of

 

Speaker:

00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,001

Marc: get lost.

 

Speaker:

00:35:36,121 --> 00:35:37,202

Marc: I don't know why they don't have those

 

Speaker:

00:35:37,502 --> 00:35:39,866

Marc: those shows, those movies, as much as

 

Speaker:

00:35:40,127 --> 00:35:40,929

Marc: you're major writer.

 

Speaker:

00:35:41,009 --> 00:35:42,994

Anja: Maybe you can write something like that,

 

Speaker:

00:35:43,074 --> 00:35:45,446

Anja: yeah, seriously, I'm definitely, yeah,

 

Speaker:

00:35:45,788 --> 00:35:47,855

Anja: edging towards comedy, for sure, when I'm

 

Speaker:

00:35:47,895 --> 00:35:50,524

Anja: writing, it's also just the it feels the

 

Speaker:

00:35:50,564 --> 00:35:51,208

Anja: best to write.

 

Speaker:

00:35:51,369 --> 00:35:53,079

Anja: You know, when you're writing a drama and

 

Speaker:

00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:54,145

Anja: you're getting into the nitty gritty and

 

Speaker:

00:35:54,325 --> 00:35:55,529

Anja: getting into these dark scenes, you don't

 

Speaker:

00:35:55,689 --> 00:35:56,993

Anja: feel good after.

 

Speaker:

00:35:57,294 --> 00:35:58,297

Anja: But when you're writing a comedy,

 

Speaker:

00:35:58,485 --> 00:35:59,709

Anja: especially if you're working with someone,

 

Speaker:

00:35:59,729 --> 00:36:01,755

Anja: you're just laughing the whole time and you

 

Speaker:

00:36:01,775 --> 00:36:02,055

Anja: have a good.

 

Speaker:

00:36:02,586 --> 00:36:04,173

Anja: You have a good day for the rest of the day,

 

Speaker:

00:36:04,213 --> 00:36:04,474

Anja: you know.

 

Speaker:

00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:06,805

Marc: I've played around just for fun, writing

 

Speaker:

00:36:06,966 --> 00:36:07,548

Marc: screenplays.

 

Speaker:

00:36:07,669 --> 00:36:09,155

Marc: I don't think I don't know it'd be nice if

 

Speaker:

00:36:09,296 --> 00:36:10,621

Marc: one would sell.

 

Speaker:

00:36:10,662 --> 00:36:12,228

Marc: I've never put one out there but it's just

 

Speaker:

00:36:12,288 --> 00:36:14,236

Marc: fun to me, it's cathartic or whatever, but

 

Speaker:

00:36:14,256 --> 00:36:16,906

Marc: you really, it really helped me appreciate

 

Speaker:

00:36:16,926 --> 00:36:18,852

Marc: the casting process more because as you're

 

Speaker:

00:36:18,892 --> 00:36:21,346

Marc: writing it you really get a sense of the

 

Speaker:

00:36:21,427 --> 00:36:23,075

Marc: aesthetic of the character and everything,

 

Speaker:

00:36:23,136 --> 00:36:24,905

Marc: and and it makes you feel better when you

 

Speaker:

00:36:24,925 --> 00:36:26,449

Marc: go audition for something and don't get it

 

Speaker:

00:36:26,469 --> 00:36:27,874

Marc: and we're like I just wasn't the person

 

Speaker:

00:36:27,914 --> 00:36:30,710

Marc: they imagined, you know, or the director

 

Speaker:

00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:33,335

Marc: you know, but comedy, but yeah, I could see

 

Speaker:

00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,227

Marc: where you really get involved in it.

 

Speaker:

00:36:35,427 --> 00:36:37,977

Marc: You know because you're thinking aesthetics,

 

Speaker:

00:36:38,318 --> 00:36:39,925

Marc: the scenery, what are, where are they, what

 

Speaker:

00:36:39,945 --> 00:36:40,491

Marc: are they doing?

 

Speaker:

00:36:40,535 --> 00:36:42,049

Marc: You know what's around, you know you really

 

Speaker:

00:36:42,093 --> 00:36:43,421

Marc: kind of submerge yourself almost like a

 

Speaker:

00:36:43,525 --> 00:36:46,573

Marc: daydream, if you will, totally a happy

 

Speaker:

00:36:46,613 --> 00:36:47,095

Marc: daydream.

 

Speaker:

00:36:47,797 --> 00:36:50,404

Marc: Yes, yeah so you know, so are you.

 

Speaker:

00:36:50,725 --> 00:36:51,528

Marc: You know your goal.

 

Speaker:

00:36:51,568 --> 00:36:53,416

Marc: Maybe in the next year or two are you

 

Speaker:

00:36:53,436 --> 00:36:55,425

Marc: wanting to put a TV show out there or, you

 

Speaker:

00:36:55,445 --> 00:36:58,431

Marc: know, is that kind of the destination for?

 

Speaker:

00:36:58,451 --> 00:36:59,674

Anja: you, I think.

 

Speaker:

00:36:59,894 --> 00:37:01,537

Anja: I mean I would love to put a TV show out,

 

Speaker:

00:37:01,678 --> 00:37:04,210

Anja: but I think it's a lot harder to make a TV

 

Speaker:

00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:05,533

Anja: show than it is to make a movie.

 

Speaker:

00:37:05,713 --> 00:37:07,806

Anja: So I think I'd probably start with a

 

Speaker:

00:37:07,846 --> 00:37:10,613

Anja: feature and then, you know, work my way

 

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Anja: towards something like that.

 

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Anja: I'd love to just work in comedy again in

 

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00:37:14,289 --> 00:37:18,056

Anja: general, but I'm kind of open to everything.

 

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00:37:18,156 --> 00:37:19,399

Anja: I'm whatever comes my way.

 

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00:37:19,746 --> 00:37:23,194

Anja: As you know, with acting it's kind of not

 

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00:37:23,234 --> 00:37:26,944

Anja: always so up to us and you got to kind of

 

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00:37:27,004 --> 00:37:28,930

Anja: chase the opportunities that come your way.

 

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00:37:29,171 --> 00:37:32,381

Anja: Yeah, exactly, so I don't know.

 

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00:37:32,742 --> 00:37:34,286

Anja: I don't want to like put anything definite

 

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00:37:34,326 --> 00:37:36,511

Anja: out there, but in terms of my own work,

 

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00:37:36,592 --> 00:37:38,677

Anja: definitely something comedic, probably a

 

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00:37:38,737 --> 00:37:40,188

Anja: movie, would be really fun.

 

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00:37:40,228 --> 00:37:41,632

Marc: Yeah, I do have to finish this match.

 

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00:37:41,692 --> 00:37:43,096

Marc: We started watching it last night.

 

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00:37:43,646 --> 00:37:46,712

Marc: And then we have my kids.

 

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00:37:47,153 --> 00:37:48,476

Marc: My two of them are in college in New

 

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00:37:48,536 --> 00:37:50,487

Marc: Orleans right now, but the one is with me.

 

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00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:54,098

Marc: He loves the TV show the Rookie on ABC.

 

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00:37:55,321 --> 00:37:55,622

Announcer: Oh, the.

 

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00:37:55,642 --> 00:37:56,645

Marc: Rookie, we're going to go watch it.

 

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00:37:56,826 --> 00:37:58,314

Marc: And so we were watching your film was like,

 

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00:37:58,375 --> 00:37:59,763

Marc: oh, rookie's coming on, gotta watch it.

 

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00:37:59,783 --> 00:38:00,446

Marc: Debut for this year.

 

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00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:02,373

Anja: Oh yeah, you got to go to the thing you

 

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00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:02,714

Anja: love.

 

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00:38:03,296 --> 00:38:05,825

Marc: So we'll come back to it, but I really

 

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00:38:06,026 --> 00:38:06,851

Marc: liked the premise of it.

 

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Marc: I didn't.

 

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00:38:07,334 --> 00:38:08,863

Marc: I'm wondering if there are really people

 

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00:38:08,943 --> 00:38:10,247

Marc: out there that do that thing of mismatch,

 

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00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,714

Marc: where you go and test dates or trial runs

 

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00:38:12,774 --> 00:38:15,969

Marc: of dates with people to kind of was that,

 

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00:38:16,009 --> 00:38:16,953

Marc: was that already a thing?

 

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00:38:17,013 --> 00:38:18,720

Marc: I didn't know, I didn't know about?

 

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Anja: I don't think it's a thing.

 

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00:38:20,046 --> 00:38:22,034

Anja: I think it's they were kind of going for

 

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00:38:22,054 --> 00:38:24,324

Anja: like a female hitch type vibe, if you

 

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00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:25,700

Anja: remember that movie with Will Smith.

 

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Marc: I, that's, that's what I was thinking.

 

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00:38:27,823 --> 00:38:28,877

Marc: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

 

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00:38:28,954 --> 00:38:31,311

Anja: So she's kind of like training men to go

 

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00:38:31,371 --> 00:38:33,559

Anja: out on dates and helping them with that.

 

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00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,045

Anja: And yeah, that was a cute movie.

 

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00:38:35,265 --> 00:38:36,127

Anja: I had a lot of fun.

 

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00:38:36,688 --> 00:38:39,394

Anja: I worked with the director, lucy Guest.

 

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00:38:39,474 --> 00:38:42,646

Anja: She's also here from Vancouver and we

 

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00:38:42,686 --> 00:38:44,110

Anja: really clicked and became really good

 

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00:38:44,151 --> 00:38:44,411

Anja: friends.

 

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00:38:44,451 --> 00:38:47,088

Anja: So I got I made a lot of really great

 

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00:38:47,148 --> 00:38:48,855

Anja: relationships on that film.

 

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Marc: And it seems like it's fun.

 

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00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:52,313

Marc: Like I said, I've only gotten about 20

 

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00:38:52,416 --> 00:38:54,417

Marc: something minutes into it until the rookie

 

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00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,563

Marc: came on, but but, the beauty of streaming,

 

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00:38:56,563 --> 00:38:57,085

Marc: it's always right there.

 

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00:38:57,105 --> 00:38:58,209

Marc: So we're going to come back, probably

 

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00:38:58,249 --> 00:39:01,029

Marc: tonight, but I like the one, the guy who

 

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00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:02,796

Marc: yeah, I think somebody speaking with you

 

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00:39:02,857 --> 00:39:04,664

Marc: has a little like little control and they

 

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00:39:04,704 --> 00:39:05,869

Marc: spit when they talk a lot.

 

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00:39:06,552 --> 00:39:07,194

Marc: Yeah.

 

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00:39:07,314 --> 00:39:08,439

Announcer: I know when that came up.

 

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00:39:08,499 --> 00:39:10,005

Marc: It was just somebody I know, who's going to

 

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00:39:10,146 --> 00:39:11,633

Marc: remain nameless, will be very vague, but

 

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00:39:11,774 --> 00:39:13,683

Marc: one of those people that is a close

 

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00:39:13,703 --> 00:39:13,984

Marc: standing.

 

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00:39:14,004 --> 00:39:15,472

Marc: You know, those people stand a little too

 

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00:39:15,513 --> 00:39:16,438

Marc: close when they talk to you.

 

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00:39:16,699 --> 00:39:18,186

Anja: Wasn't there a Seinfeld character like that?

 

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00:39:18,226 --> 00:39:20,893

Anja: That stood super close, yeah, yeah, but

 

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00:39:20,933 --> 00:39:22,357

Anja: there's definitely a lot of they talk

 

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00:39:22,397 --> 00:39:22,597

Anja: that's.

 

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00:39:23,187 --> 00:39:25,177

Marc: I've been in that situation once before and

 

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00:39:25,217 --> 00:39:26,021

Marc: it's so uncount.

 

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00:39:26,041 --> 00:39:27,006

Marc: You don't want to, you don't want to make

 

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00:39:27,026 --> 00:39:28,476

Marc: somebody feel bad about it, but it's like

 

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00:39:28,536 --> 00:39:29,764

Marc: you know you're sitting there like wiping

 

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00:39:29,785 --> 00:39:30,166

Marc: off going.

 

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00:39:30,246 --> 00:39:31,087

Marc: Yeah, okay.

 

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00:39:31,147 --> 00:39:31,367

Announcer: Yeah.

 

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00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,585

Marc: One of the things I like to do.

 

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00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:42,148

Marc: I want to ask my seven questions.

 

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00:39:42,857 --> 00:39:44,283

Marc: It's just some fun I like to do.

 

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00:39:44,897 --> 00:39:46,302

Marc: But the first one I'm a big food nerd.

 

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00:39:46,937 --> 00:39:48,201

Marc: I mentioned Anthony Bourdain before.

 

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00:39:48,221 --> 00:39:50,599

Marc: I'm a big food nerd, but I got to ask what

 

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00:39:50,659 --> 00:39:52,545

Marc: is your favorite comfort food?

 

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00:39:52,715 --> 00:39:54,308

Marc: That thing that you just love that?

 

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00:39:54,469 --> 00:39:55,857

Marc: You're having a bad day, you eat it, you'll

 

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00:39:55,938 --> 00:39:56,400

Marc: feel better.

 

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00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:57,243

Marc: Or you're having a great day.

 

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00:39:57,295 --> 00:39:58,322

Marc: You're like man.

 

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00:39:58,362 --> 00:40:00,455

Marc: This is to help celebrate.

 

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00:40:00,455 --> 00:40:01,841

Marc: I'm going to have my favorite comfort food.

 

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00:40:03,298 --> 00:40:04,944

Anja: I love spaghetti bolognese.

 

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00:40:05,355 --> 00:40:08,724

Anja: That's like my favorite favorite thing,

 

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00:40:08,944 --> 00:40:10,923

Anja: like a homemade one, I think that's been

 

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00:40:10,943 --> 00:40:12,697

Anja: mentioned three or four times, except that.

 

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00:40:12,757 --> 00:40:14,583

Marc: I talked to a Brit and he called it Spag

 

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00:40:14,623 --> 00:40:14,764

Marc: Bowl.

 

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00:40:15,236 --> 00:40:16,320

Anja: This is what apparently they call it in

 

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00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:16,702

Anja: England.

 

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00:40:17,175 --> 00:40:18,701

Anja: Yeah, I should probably call it that.

 

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00:40:18,741 --> 00:40:19,484

Anja: How much I eat it.

 

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00:40:19,856 --> 00:40:20,921

Anja: I need to shorten my time.

 

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00:40:21,375 --> 00:40:22,820

Marc: I mean, it doesn't sound pleasant unless

 

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00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,964

Marc: you know what it is, you know it's like

 

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00:40:24,004 --> 00:40:24,345

Marc: Spag Bowl.

 

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00:40:24,515 --> 00:40:25,137

Anja: He's always like a.

 

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00:40:25,177 --> 00:40:25,659

Marc: Spag Bowl.

 

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00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:26,662

Marc: I was like what's a Spag Bowl?

 

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00:40:26,682 --> 00:40:27,384

Marc: Oh, spaghetti bologna.

 

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00:40:27,856 --> 00:40:28,718

Marc: So you're not.

 

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00:40:28,739 --> 00:40:30,304

Marc: You're not alone in that camp or in that

 

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00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:30,625

Marc: tribe.

 

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00:40:30,755 --> 00:40:32,141

Anja: Oh love spaghetti bolognese.

 

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00:40:33,155 --> 00:40:34,659

Marc: Now, if you are to sit down, let's say

 

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00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,966

Marc: you're going to have coffee with three

 

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00:40:37,006 --> 00:40:37,837

Marc: people a few hours.

 

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00:40:37,877 --> 00:40:40,145

Marc: Sit down, talk story, living or not.

 

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00:40:40,275 --> 00:40:41,880

Marc: Who would three people be you would love to

 

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00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,802

Marc: sit down with and chat?

 

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00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:46,941

Anja: Oh my gosh, that's a very hard question.

 

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00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:52,924

Marc: I know I don't mean it to be hard, but it's

 

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00:40:52,964 --> 00:40:55,235

Marc: funny, because I spoke with someone the

 

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00:40:55,276 --> 00:40:57,581

Marc: other day, sheree Agdashlu, and she was

 

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00:40:57,601 --> 00:40:58,744

Marc: like who are your three people?

 

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00:40:58,785 --> 00:40:59,306

Marc: I was like shit.

 

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00:41:00,096 --> 00:41:00,961

Announcer: Oh, what did you say?

 

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00:41:03,697 --> 00:41:04,901

Marc: Well, I told her, I said one of them is my

 

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00:41:04,941 --> 00:41:06,586

Marc: grandfather who passed away, because I said

 

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00:41:06,655 --> 00:41:07,818

Marc: I'm getting to that age where I'd love to

 

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00:41:07,838 --> 00:41:09,461

Marc: kind of like check in with him on certain

 

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00:41:09,521 --> 00:41:09,762

Marc: things.

 

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00:41:09,782 --> 00:41:10,864

Marc: You know, my kids are getting old.

 

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00:41:10,885 --> 00:41:13,621

Marc: Yeah, that's beautiful, you know you don't

 

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00:41:13,661 --> 00:41:15,189

Marc: know, until you're older the questions you

 

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00:41:15,249 --> 00:41:16,997

Marc: haven't asked that you should have asked,

 

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00:41:17,297 --> 00:41:18,421

Marc: but you didn't know to ask because you're

 

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00:41:18,441 --> 00:41:18,822

Marc: too young.

 

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00:41:18,903 --> 00:41:19,605

Announcer: So true.

 

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00:41:20,316 --> 00:41:20,738

Anja: That I think.

 

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00:41:20,758 --> 00:41:22,804

Marc: I mentioned Alan Watts and it was one of

 

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00:41:22,824 --> 00:41:22,945

Marc: them.

 

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00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:24,620

Anja: Oh, I love Alan Watts.

 

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00:41:24,981 --> 00:41:26,077

Anja: Yeah, oh God, I used to when.

 

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00:41:26,097 --> 00:41:27,525

Marc: I worked on the radio briefly in LA.

 

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00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:29,997

Marc: I used to live in Sinita, just north county

 

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00:41:30,017 --> 00:41:31,562

Marc: of San Diego, so I'd go to In-N-Out Burger

 

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00:41:31,582 --> 00:41:33,778

Marc: get a chocolate shake and drive south the

 

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00:41:33,798 --> 00:41:35,363

Marc: head back home after I got off the air.

 

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00:41:36,776 --> 00:41:37,420

Marc: And I would turn.

 

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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,090

Marc: It was a radio Pacific or somewhere they

 

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00:41:39,110 --> 00:41:39,211

Marc: would.

 

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00:41:39,432 --> 00:41:41,099

Marc: I didn't know who it was, but I'd listen to

 

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00:41:41,139 --> 00:41:42,423

Marc: him every day driving back.

 

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00:41:43,135 --> 00:41:43,235

Marc: And.

 

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00:41:43,777 --> 00:41:45,101

Marc: But now I just one of those guys who just

 

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00:41:45,161 --> 00:41:46,706

Marc: love to sit down and groove on you know

 

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00:41:46,915 --> 00:41:48,020

Marc: life with you know talk.

 

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00:41:48,716 --> 00:41:50,222

Anja: Oh my God, I love him.

 

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00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:53,888

Anja: I used to listen to his, his, his lectures,

 

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00:41:54,009 --> 00:41:55,635

Anja: like I had that series of all his lectures

 

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00:41:55,756 --> 00:41:56,903

Anja: and I would just listen to them over and

 

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00:41:56,984 --> 00:41:57,548

Anja: over and over.

 

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00:41:57,729 --> 00:41:58,655

Anja: Oh yeah, they're so good.

 

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00:41:58,815 --> 00:42:00,621

Marc: Well, his son just released something.

 

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00:42:01,243 --> 00:42:01,784

Marc: It's an app.

 

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00:42:02,656 --> 00:42:03,741

Marc: It's an Alan Watts app.

 

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00:42:03,935 --> 00:42:06,442

Marc: It's got literally everything organized and

 

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00:42:06,643 --> 00:42:10,052

Marc: it's it was, and I just you're the only

 

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00:42:10,115 --> 00:42:11,642

Marc: guess I've had that really knew who he was.

 

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00:42:12,205 --> 00:42:13,230

Announcer: So it's kind of yay.

 

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00:42:13,371 --> 00:42:15,358

Marc: He's great, but yeah, there's an app out

 

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00:42:15,378 --> 00:42:16,863

Marc: there and his son, Marc Watts, put it

 

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00:42:16,903 --> 00:42:18,737

Marc: together and I don't know it's, he's one of

 

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00:42:18,778 --> 00:42:20,663

Marc: those guys you listen to go yeah, never

 

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00:42:20,683 --> 00:42:21,916

Marc: really thought about life that way.

 

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00:42:22,157 --> 00:42:23,499

Marc: You know live in the moment.

 

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00:42:23,539 --> 00:42:24,963

Anja: There is no tomorrow, yeah, and he keeps

 

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00:42:24,983 --> 00:42:27,655

Anja: that light, he keeps it very light, he

 

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00:42:27,675 --> 00:42:29,762

Anja: laughs a lot and yeah, he's, he's a great

 

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00:42:29,802 --> 00:42:30,002

Anja: guy.

 

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00:42:30,143 --> 00:42:31,537

Anja: Actually, I you know what I'll go with Alan

 

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00:42:31,557 --> 00:42:34,400

Anja: Watts for one of mine, um one of my people.

 

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00:42:35,142 --> 00:42:35,484

Announcer: Yeah.

 

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00:42:36,196 --> 00:42:38,023

Anja: Um, I'm a sucker for Oprah Winfrey.

 

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00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,580

Anja: I just have loved her ever since I was a

 

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00:42:40,621 --> 00:42:42,445

Anja: kid and watched her show with my mom, you

 

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00:42:42,485 --> 00:42:43,587

Anja: know, every day after school.

 

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00:42:43,855 --> 00:42:47,998

Anja: So definitely her, and maybe like Noam

 

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00:42:48,018 --> 00:42:50,443

Anja: Chomsky, just to learn a little bit more

 

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00:42:50,463 --> 00:42:51,084

Anja: about the world.

 

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00:42:51,485 --> 00:42:52,607

Anja: Yeah, I love him.

 

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00:42:53,375 --> 00:42:54,159

Marc: Oh, he had a great quote.

 

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00:42:54,179 --> 00:42:55,567

Marc: The other day I saw something that he's

 

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00:42:55,607 --> 00:42:56,134

Marc: talking about AI.

 

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00:42:56,556 --> 00:42:58,898

Marc: He said AI is not a thinking thing, it's a.

 

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00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,766

Marc: It's a plagiarism machine.

 

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00:43:01,409 --> 00:43:01,629

Marc: Is what?

 

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00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:01,971

Announcer: he called it.

 

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00:43:02,015 --> 00:43:03,260

Announcer: I was, like you know, that kind of is

 

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00:43:03,601 --> 00:43:04,797

Announcer: because it's not creating, it's just

 

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00:43:05,262 --> 00:43:06,695

Announcer: digesting and regurgitating.

 

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00:43:07,898 --> 00:43:10,483

Anja: Have you seen how good the videos are

 

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00:43:10,504 --> 00:43:10,784

Anja: getting?

 

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00:43:11,887 --> 00:43:14,123

Anja: Scary Somebody showed something last year

 

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00:43:14,163 --> 00:43:16,515

Anja: that video of Will Smith eating spaghetti.

 

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00:43:16,575 --> 00:43:18,077

Marc: I mean, we've all seen it which is just a

 

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00:43:18,117 --> 00:43:18,258

Marc: story.

 

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00:43:18,298 --> 00:43:19,960

Anja: That one was terrible yeah.

 

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00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,162

Marc: And they show one year later.

 

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00:43:21,262 --> 00:43:23,346

Marc: Now it's like indistinguishable, you know

 

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00:43:23,466 --> 00:43:24,207

Marc: it's insane.

 

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00:43:24,367 --> 00:43:24,988

Anja: It's insane.

 

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00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:26,050

Anja: I'm terrified, I'm terrified.

 

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00:43:26,295 --> 00:43:27,760

Marc: I live a lot in the world of voiceover and

 

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00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,092

Marc: some people are like you know it is kind of

 

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00:43:31,212 --> 00:43:31,975

Marc: you know, easy to replicate.

 

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00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:34,446

Marc: But I'm like I said, the one thing I tell I

 

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00:43:34,687 --> 00:43:36,455

Marc: teach voiceover and also, and I tell my

 

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00:43:36,576 --> 00:43:38,426

Marc: students is it's never, I don't care.

 

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Marc: Anybody says I know some people like well,

 

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Marc: you never know technology, it's never going

 

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Marc: to be able to be like an actor has emotion

 

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Marc: and it can't make choices and reflect that

 

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Marc: through facial expression, body language,

 

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Marc: and so there's always going to be and the

 

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Marc: moment I don't know about you, but we're

 

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00:43:54,455 --> 00:43:57,603

Marc: not watching a YouTube video and I pick out

 

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Marc: oh, that's a voice.

 

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Marc: I'm immediately out of it, I feel like it's

 

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Marc: just it's just it feels kind of like I

 

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Marc: would rather read it.

 

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Marc: I don't need to have a computer voice

 

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Marc: talking to me, it's just maybe I'm weird

 

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Marc: like that, but no, I agree completely.

 

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Anja: I think we all want a real, authentic human

 

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Anja: and especially when it's something artistic,

 

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Anja: we want to know that they felt what they

 

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Anja: were making.

 

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Anja: You know that they, they came up with it,

 

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Anja: not some computer.

 

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Anja: So I'm with you there.

 

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Marc: Can you imagine a movie that was written by

 

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Marc: AI?

 

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Marc: If I found out, found that I mean it may be

 

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Marc: interesting just from a pure curiosity

 

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Marc: standpoint, but not like to have that be a

 

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Marc: norm or something.

 

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Anja: It's going to be the new toy everybody

 

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Anja: plays with for a while, and then you know I

 

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Anja: don't know what's going to happen Totally

 

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Anja: and, and I'm sure there'll be movies and

 

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Anja: songs and things like that that we'll love

 

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Anja: that'll be AI, but I think there'll be a

 

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Anja: limit to the amount that we allow it into

 

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Anja: our lives.

 

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Marc: I think we love connection.

 

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Marc: I think we love instinctively authenticity

 

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Marc: and that human desire I think is going to

 

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Marc: be the roadblock for AI to go beyond.

 

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Marc: You know absolutely.

 

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Anja: So Dome Chomsky and Alan Watson you have

 

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Anja: heard one of that Oprah Winfrey, oprah

 

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Anja: Winfrey, oprah Winfrey.

 

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Anja: I heard that was three.

 

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Marc: Alan Watts, yeah, got a good one, oh, very

 

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Marc: good.

 

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Anja: Yeah.

 

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Marc: You know, she the arc of her career, me

 

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Marc: being younger watching which I first

 

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Marc: started doing her show and how she evolved

 

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Marc: it, Because when it started off it was a

 

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00:45:17,959 --> 00:45:19,364

Marc: little bit like the Phil Donahue show.

 

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Marc: It was not the Oprah Winfrey show that it

 

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Marc: evolved into I mean the first year or two,

 

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Marc: but she's definitely a self-made woman,

 

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Marc: without a doubt.

 

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Marc: She's the best Now if we were to go back

 

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00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:35,273

Marc: and when you were young, on yet who was

 

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00:45:35,293 --> 00:45:35,594

Marc: your first?

 

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Marc: Celebrity crush that you were looking at.

 

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Announcer: My first celebrity crush.

 

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Marc: Was it somebody on the OC.

 

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Marc: No, because you had mentioned that.

 

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Anja: Oh, I did love the OC.

 

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Anja: That's a good question.

 

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Anja: I don't know, I had a lot of posters up in

 

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Anja: my room.

 

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Marc: A lot of J-14.

 

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Anja: I don't know if you know that magazine.

 

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Marc: It was like a kid's it was kind of like

 

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00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,943

Marc: Tiger Beach or something like that.

 

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Anja: Yeah, totally.

 

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Anja: And they had posters inside and I'd always

 

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Anja: have them up on my walls, but probably like

 

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00:46:08,697 --> 00:46:12,566

Anja: a first crush, maybe Shia LaBeouf.

 

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Marc: Because I loved even Stevens yeah.

 

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Marc: I forgot he did that yeah.

 

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Anja: Yeah, he was great in that.

 

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00:46:21,095 --> 00:46:24,457

Anja: He's a talented guy, so Shia LaBeouf was

 

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00:46:24,478 --> 00:46:26,343

Anja: the first Makes sense.

 

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Marc: Yeah, of the era, yeah.

 

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Anja: I'm trying to think that he was popular

 

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Anja: when I was growing up.

 

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Marc: I think the original Beverly Hills night of

 

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00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,285

Marc: two when I was in high school.

 

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00:46:35,325 --> 00:46:38,816

Marc: Though Now I'm old, you see, I'm trying to

 

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00:46:38,836 --> 00:46:39,819

Marc: remember way back when.

 

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Marc: Like, who was you know what was going on

 

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00:46:41,685 --> 00:46:42,005

Marc: back then?

 

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00:46:42,355 --> 00:46:44,642

Marc: But now the next question I got for you if

 

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00:46:44,682 --> 00:46:46,567

Marc: you're going to go to, let's say, an exotic

 

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00:46:46,715 --> 00:46:48,160

Marc: island, you're going to be living on it for

 

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00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,525

Marc: a year and you're not like a cast away.

 

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00:46:49,695 --> 00:46:51,702

Marc: It's nice, maybe the resort, but it doesn't

 

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00:46:51,742 --> 00:46:52,204

Marc: have internet.

 

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00:46:52,515 --> 00:46:54,141

Marc: No, no streaming, no, nothing.

 

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00:46:55,335 --> 00:46:58,703

Marc: So you have to bring one DVD of a movie and

 

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00:46:58,824 --> 00:47:02,881

Marc: one CD of an album or who or what would

 

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00:47:02,901 --> 00:47:04,185

Marc: that CD and DVD be?

 

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00:47:04,285 --> 00:47:05,796

Marc: You bring with you Something you could

 

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00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:07,701

Marc: watch and listen to over and over again.

 

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00:47:08,623 --> 00:47:16,366

Anja: Okay, hmm, I think for movie maybe Greece.

 

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00:47:18,015 --> 00:47:19,541

Anja: Greece is like one of my favorite films.

 

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00:47:20,276 --> 00:47:21,601

Anja: I could probably watch that every single

 

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00:47:21,641 --> 00:47:22,805

Anja: day and be happy with it.

 

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00:47:23,075 --> 00:47:24,500

Marc: Oh, I had a thing for a living Newton John

 

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00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,804

Marc: back in the day, so I'm there with you.

 

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00:47:26,135 --> 00:47:27,003

Anja: Oh, I had a thing for Kenickie.

 

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00:47:27,215 --> 00:47:29,262

Anja: He was my, he was my crush for sure.

 

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00:47:30,255 --> 00:47:31,641

Anja: Maybe that was my first crush.

 

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00:47:32,336 --> 00:47:33,659

Anja: Although it's so weird to think of like a

 

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00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:35,684

Anja: grown man when you're like 10 watching

 

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00:47:35,724 --> 00:47:36,025

Anja: something.

 

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00:47:36,145 --> 00:47:38,358

Anja: It was, I remember watching that thinking.

 

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00:47:38,779 --> 00:47:41,485

Marc: I remember we were at the grocery store and

 

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00:47:41,986 --> 00:47:43,660

Marc: my mother, we went to go get something.

 

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00:47:43,681 --> 00:47:45,031

Marc: And I'm walking through and I see a people

 

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00:47:45,071 --> 00:47:46,478

Marc: magazine in the rack and talking about how

 

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00:47:46,498 --> 00:47:47,924

Marc: Olivia Newton John got married.

 

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00:47:48,657 --> 00:47:49,581

Marc: I mean his year, I mean.

 

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00:47:49,882 --> 00:47:52,391

Marc: I was taken back as like wait, you know, I

 

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00:47:52,712 --> 00:47:54,761

Marc: had no concept of age at that point.

 

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00:47:54,855 --> 00:47:56,343

Marc: I was like, if I have a crush on them, I'll

 

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00:47:56,363 --> 00:47:57,066

Marc: meet them one day.

 

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00:47:57,146 --> 00:47:59,618

Marc: And then you know, such as the seven year

 

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00:47:59,658 --> 00:48:00,943

Marc: old or eight year old mind, I guess.

 

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00:48:01,837 --> 00:48:03,383

Anja: Yeah, I know Okay.

 

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00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:07,295

Anja: So I think that's my favorite album.

 

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00:48:07,335 --> 00:48:12,302

Anja: That's harder, maybe like Hot Fuss by the

 

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00:48:12,343 --> 00:48:12,744

Anja: Killers.

 

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00:48:13,375 --> 00:48:15,521

Anja: That was one of my first favorite albums

 

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00:48:15,822 --> 00:48:17,487

Anja: and I still think it's a perfect album.

 

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00:48:17,775 --> 00:48:19,234

Anja: No-transcript, I'll go with that.

 

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00:48:19,434 --> 00:48:19,877

Marc: That was like a.

 

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00:48:19,917 --> 00:48:22,610

Anja: What was it like it was a long time ago,

 

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00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:23,773

Anja: that was early 2000s.

 

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00:48:24,014 --> 00:48:27,273

Anja: Roughly Am I okay, totally yeah, yeah, it

 

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00:48:27,313 --> 00:48:27,534

Anja: was.

 

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00:48:28,451 --> 00:48:29,976

Marc: I think I played some of that on the radio

 

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00:48:30,691 --> 00:48:32,457

Marc: way back in my radio days, which are long

 

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00:48:32,497 --> 00:48:32,738

Marc: gone.

 

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00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:35,232

Anja: You have such a radio voice, it's like

 

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00:48:35,774 --> 00:48:36,577

Anja: makes total sense.

 

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00:48:36,617 --> 00:48:37,259

Anja: You were on the radio.

 

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00:48:38,672 --> 00:48:41,121

Marc: I've been accused of that Now it's now.

 

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00:48:41,182 --> 00:48:42,475

Marc: I've got the last thing and it was a

 

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00:48:42,515 --> 00:48:43,810

Marc: syndicated show on ABC Radio.

 

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00:48:43,992 --> 00:48:45,089

Anja: I guess a podcast is similar.

 

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00:48:45,251 --> 00:48:46,299

Anja: Well, you know that's.

 

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00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:48,257

Marc: The thing I missed about radio was not the

 

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00:48:48,318 --> 00:48:51,256

Marc: playing of the music, because before when

 

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00:48:51,276 --> 00:48:52,951

Marc: the audience catches on to the song and

 

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00:48:52,971 --> 00:48:54,366

Marc: they start loving it, you're sick and tired

 

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00:48:54,406 --> 00:48:56,235

Marc: of hearing it because just you gotta play

 

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00:48:56,276 --> 00:48:58,334

Marc: it so much and you're in the studio four or

 

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00:48:58,374 --> 00:48:59,077

Marc: five hours a day.

 

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00:48:59,491 --> 00:49:01,929

Marc: But no, when I had my show on ABC, that was

 

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00:49:01,949 --> 00:49:03,825

Marc: like I could talk with people, like I had a

 

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00:49:03,906 --> 00:49:05,498

Marc: retro show, which was a lot of fun, talked

 

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00:49:05,538 --> 00:49:09,281

Marc: like Rick Springfield and I've got any one

 

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00:49:09,301 --> 00:49:10,890

Marc: of the people from the retro era.

 

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00:49:11,053 --> 00:49:12,412

Marc: That was so much fun for me because that's

 

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00:49:12,432 --> 00:49:13,215

Marc: who I grew up with.

 

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00:49:14,092 --> 00:49:15,390

Marc: But I missed that part of it.

 

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00:49:15,592 --> 00:49:17,070

Marc: I didn't miss other aspects of it.

 

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00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:19,959

Marc: So I just did acting and voiceover, which

 

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00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:23,364

Marc: is my main gig, and then I figured well,

 

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00:49:23,384 --> 00:49:25,173

Marc: the podcast will satisfy and scratch that

 

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00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:26,999

Marc: itch of being able to talk to interesting

 

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00:49:27,391 --> 00:49:29,694

Marc: fascinating people from Canada Totally.

 

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00:49:30,591 --> 00:49:33,199

Anja: I've been watching a lot of Frasier right

 

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00:49:33,259 --> 00:49:35,649

Anja: now and, like the old the original one.

 

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00:49:35,791 --> 00:49:37,427

Announcer: The new one is a new one out of the

 

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00:49:37,447 --> 00:49:38,157

Announcer: original one, the new one's out, but.

 

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00:49:38,177 --> 00:49:39,653

Anja: I'm watching the original and it's just

 

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00:49:39,834 --> 00:49:42,997

Anja: such a good show and I love all the radio

 

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00:49:43,038 --> 00:49:45,589

Anja: bits in it and you could totally do that

 

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00:49:45,831 --> 00:49:46,755

Anja: Become a psychologist.

 

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00:49:47,371 --> 00:49:49,297

Marc: Yeah, a lot of those are pretty accurate.

 

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00:49:49,891 --> 00:49:52,512

Marc: Like there's a lot of absurdity in radio, a

 

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00:49:52,593 --> 00:49:55,255

Marc: lot of personalities that are just oh yeah,

 

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00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:56,279

Marc: the people that call in.

 

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00:49:56,931 --> 00:49:59,652

Anja: I mean that alone is like whoa, who am I

 

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00:49:59,673 --> 00:50:00,316

Anja: going to get today?

 

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Marc: There are some that are just heartwarming,

 

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00:50:02,712 --> 00:50:04,149

Marc: like people like oh man, it's like every

 

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00:50:04,169 --> 00:50:05,335

Marc: week I look forward to hearing it.

 

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00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:06,696

Marc: Others they call up going.

 

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00:50:07,592 --> 00:50:08,948

Marc: Thank God I don't live in the same city as

 

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00:50:08,968 --> 00:50:10,088

Marc: they do, because this could be dangerous.

 

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00:50:10,352 --> 00:50:11,790

Announcer: I mean, I've heard stories of stalker.

 

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00:50:11,992 --> 00:50:13,508

Marc: I even had one stalker once but that's a

 

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00:50:13,528 --> 00:50:13,914

Marc: whole oh.

 

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00:50:14,524 --> 00:50:15,934

Marc: God, but he stalked everybody.

 

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00:50:15,995 --> 00:50:16,557

Marc: I wasn't unique.

 

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00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:18,536

Anja: Your stalker didn't make you feel special.

 

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00:50:18,918 --> 00:50:23,581

Marc: Well, no, I remember I was a helicopter.

 

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00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:25,470

Marc: I flew in a helicopter doing traffic in

 

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Marc: Dallas when I was like 20 years old and we

 

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00:50:27,795 --> 00:50:29,327

Marc: landed in a place in a suburb called

 

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00:50:29,408 --> 00:50:31,597

Marc: Arlington where they would refuel the

 

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00:50:31,677 --> 00:50:32,399

Marc: helicopter as well.

 

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00:50:33,478 --> 00:50:34,890

Marc: There was a Dallas police helicopter

 

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00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:36,510

Marc: landing and refueling in the TV station.

 

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00:50:36,711 --> 00:50:38,357

Marc: So we had like two or three at any given

 

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00:50:38,397 --> 00:50:41,008

Marc: time and one of them was for another radio

 

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00:50:41,028 --> 00:50:41,230

Marc: station.

 

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00:50:41,391 --> 00:50:43,748

Marc: That pilot walked over and we were just

 

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00:50:43,769 --> 00:50:45,002

Marc: talking because I had to finish my last

 

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00:50:45,042 --> 00:50:46,232

Marc: report and I got out and we were eating

 

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00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,488

Marc: donuts and coffee and that was early in the

 

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00:50:48,508 --> 00:50:49,861

Marc: morning and I found out.

 

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00:50:50,002 --> 00:50:50,810

Marc: We just had a conversation.

 

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00:50:51,011 --> 00:50:53,102

Marc: We had the same stalker and I'd found out

 

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00:50:53,143 --> 00:50:54,179

Marc: another friend of mine, another radio

 

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00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:54,830

Marc: station had the same guy.

 

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00:50:54,951 --> 00:50:56,743

Marc: He changed names, he used different names

 

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00:50:56,764 --> 00:50:57,150

Marc: of different people.

 

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Marc: He was really smart at finding out the

 

Speaker:

00:50:59,076 --> 00:51:00,997

Marc: hotline phone number at every radio station

 

Speaker:

00:51:01,017 --> 00:51:03,385

Marc: and calling and tour meeting and I was like

 

Speaker:

00:51:03,405 --> 00:51:05,255

Marc: for a month he found my home telephone

 

Speaker:

00:51:05,295 --> 00:51:07,071

Marc: number, would call me at all hours and I

 

Speaker:

00:51:07,111 --> 00:51:09,379

Marc: was like when I found out that he would

 

Speaker:

00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:12,158

Marc: call my, this guy Jim my friend Trey.

 

Speaker:

00:51:12,178 --> 00:51:12,921

Announcer: I was like wait a minute.

 

Speaker:

00:51:13,463 --> 00:51:14,307

Marc: I'm not special.

 

Speaker:

00:51:14,387 --> 00:51:15,713

Marc: I'm not the one, I'm not the one.

 

Speaker:

00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:17,440

Marc: There are other people he's stalking.

 

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00:51:17,478 --> 00:51:20,440

Anja: I felt like I feel like that's a comedy

 

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00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,640

Anja: movie right there, like someone being

 

Speaker:

00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:23,748

Anja: scared of their stalker and then being like

 

Speaker:

00:51:23,768 --> 00:51:25,457

Anja: wait a minute, why am I not the only one?

 

Speaker:

00:51:27,571 --> 00:51:29,015

Announcer: It's I want to be a friend to him now Be a

 

Speaker:

00:51:29,035 --> 00:51:29,457

Announcer: great movie.

 

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00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,536

Anja: Yeah, why not just me?

 

Speaker:

00:51:33,151 --> 00:51:33,914

Anja: Am I not good enough?

 

Speaker:

00:51:34,632 --> 00:51:35,716

Marc: Well, there you go, there you go.

 

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00:51:36,111 --> 00:51:37,537

Marc: I get a story by credit.

 

Speaker:

00:51:38,457 --> 00:51:39,587

Marc: It's your next project.

 

Speaker:

00:51:39,667 --> 00:51:39,950

Marc: Go for it.

 

Speaker:

00:51:40,051 --> 00:51:42,173

Announcer: That's so good, I love that, but no, this

 

Speaker:

00:51:42,194 --> 00:51:43,398

Announcer: guy had hear scary stories.

 

Speaker:

00:51:44,511 --> 00:51:46,587

Marc: I was 20 and I hadn't quite moved out of my

 

Speaker:

00:51:46,667 --> 00:51:48,170

Marc: own yet and my father got really mad.

 

Speaker:

00:51:48,351 --> 00:51:49,796

Marc: He's like why is this person calling at all

 

Speaker:

00:51:49,897 --> 00:51:50,098

Marc: hours?

 

Speaker:

00:51:50,371 --> 00:51:52,144

Marc: I was like I got no control over this guy.

 

Speaker:

00:51:52,164 --> 00:51:52,990

Marc: Oh Jesus, he was really.

 

Speaker:

00:51:53,211 --> 00:51:56,148

Marc: He was like a high school kid who just had

 

Speaker:

00:51:56,168 --> 00:51:56,490

Marc: a good game.

 

Speaker:

00:51:56,671 --> 00:51:58,557

Marc: He knew how to call up the new people of

 

Speaker:

00:51:58,577 --> 00:51:59,500

Marc: the station, scare him.

 

Speaker:

00:51:59,771 --> 00:52:01,057

Marc: Hey, I need a phone number of so-and-so.

 

Speaker:

00:52:01,371 --> 00:52:02,917

Marc: And somebody's like yeah, okay, I'll give

 

Speaker:

00:52:02,957 --> 00:52:03,198

Marc: it to you.

 

Speaker:

00:52:03,491 --> 00:52:04,910

Marc: He got everybody's home phone number.

 

Speaker:

00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:07,479

Marc: So he was very well known around Dallas as

 

Speaker:

00:52:07,901 --> 00:52:10,350

Marc: circa 1990.

 

Speaker:

00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:12,818

Marc: Wow 91, 92, no, about 93, I think, is one

 

Speaker:

00:52:12,838 --> 00:52:13,019

Marc: of them.

 

Speaker:

00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:15,370

Marc: So anyway, sorry, I wanted to dim you off

 

Speaker:

00:52:15,485 --> 00:52:16,375

Marc: the sidetrack there.

 

Speaker:

00:52:16,476 --> 00:52:17,459

Marc: But yeah, I had a stalker.

 

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00:52:17,912 --> 00:52:20,140

Anja: No, that was fascinating and scary that is

 

Speaker:

00:52:20,262 --> 00:52:20,993

Anja: one of the things I mean.

 

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00:52:21,014 --> 00:52:22,408

Marc: There are some gnarly stories I've heard

 

Speaker:

00:52:22,428 --> 00:52:23,153

Marc: about, but it is.

 

Speaker:

00:52:23,756 --> 00:52:26,188

Marc: The radio ecosystem back in the day was

 

Speaker:

00:52:26,249 --> 00:52:28,759

Marc: cool because you had a lot of personalities

 

Speaker:

00:52:28,884 --> 00:52:30,146

Marc: both on and off the air.

 

Speaker:

00:52:30,732 --> 00:52:33,213

Marc: That made it interesting, and Frasier is a

 

Speaker:

00:52:33,253 --> 00:52:34,358

Marc: great representation of that.

 

Speaker:

00:52:34,671 --> 00:52:36,045

Marc: You think somebody's cool on the air?

 

Speaker:

00:52:36,085 --> 00:52:36,570

Marc: They get off the air.

 

Speaker:

00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:39,484

Marc: They are a train wreck or somebody's mild

 

Speaker:

00:52:39,524 --> 00:52:41,744

Marc: mannered on the air and they are mild

 

Speaker:

00:52:41,784 --> 00:52:43,356

Marc: mannered in real life but they go on the

 

Speaker:

00:52:43,397 --> 00:52:45,150

Marc: air and they're like boisterous.

 

Speaker:

00:52:45,331 --> 00:52:47,397

Marc: There's a movie from way back a long time

 

Speaker:

00:52:47,437 --> 00:52:51,934

Marc: ago called American Graffiti and Wolfman

 

Speaker:

00:52:51,954 --> 00:52:54,255

Marc: Jack is DJ and there's a scene when Richard

 

Speaker:

00:52:54,356 --> 00:52:57,340

Marc: Rifus walks in and he's talking to this guy

 

Speaker:

00:52:57,884 --> 00:52:59,682

Marc: and he doesn't realize that's the guy he's

 

Speaker:

00:52:59,702 --> 00:53:00,309

Marc: hearing on the radio.

 

Speaker:

00:53:00,733 --> 00:53:02,122

Marc: But it's two different personalities.

 

Speaker:

00:53:02,625 --> 00:53:03,189

Marc: But it's a grave.

 

Speaker:

00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,350

Marc: You ever seen American Graffiti?

 

Speaker:

00:53:04,471 --> 00:53:04,551

Marc: You?

 

Speaker:

00:53:04,591 --> 00:53:05,133

Announcer: know, but it's a.

 

Speaker:

00:53:05,294 --> 00:53:06,057

Marc: that's an old movie.

 

Speaker:

00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:08,298

Marc: But now we know your album, we know your CD.

 

Speaker:

00:53:08,532 --> 00:53:09,987

Marc: But the next question is if you were

 

Speaker:

00:53:10,027 --> 00:53:12,278

Marc: defined from the time you get up in the

 

Speaker:

00:53:12,318 --> 00:53:14,474

Marc: morning to the time you put your head down,

 

Speaker:

00:53:15,016 --> 00:53:16,838

Marc: you know, on the pillow at night.

 

Speaker:

00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:19,312

Marc: If you had a perfect day, what would be the

 

Speaker:

00:53:19,373 --> 00:53:21,660

Marc: component parts of that perfect day for you?

 

Speaker:

00:53:21,871 --> 00:53:23,496

Marc: The things you've done and experienced, or

 

Speaker:

00:53:23,998 --> 00:53:24,540

Marc: anything really?

 

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00:53:26,551 --> 00:53:27,574

Anja: I think my answer would be.

 

Speaker:

00:53:28,958 --> 00:53:31,613

Anja: I guess it would be something simple Like

 

Speaker:

00:53:32,034 --> 00:53:35,002

Anja: wake up without an alarm, Go outside, have

 

Speaker:

00:53:35,022 --> 00:53:37,022

Anja: a nice walk with the dog, have some work

 

Speaker:

00:53:37,042 --> 00:53:41,308

Anja: today, you know probably go to set work on

 

Speaker:

00:53:41,328 --> 00:53:42,476

Anja: some scenes, come home, have dinner, chill,

 

Speaker:

00:53:42,496 --> 00:53:43,000

Anja: watch a movie.

 

Speaker:

00:53:44,813 --> 00:53:46,562

Anja: I think sometimes the things that seem

 

Speaker:

00:53:46,602 --> 00:53:47,789

Anja: boring are actually the best.

 

Speaker:

00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:49,070

Anja: That's what everybody says.

 

Speaker:

00:53:50,261 --> 00:53:51,593

Marc: You know, more than one person has, I mean

 

Speaker:

00:53:51,613 --> 00:53:53,930

Marc: I'd say at least half have mentioned coffee

 

Speaker:

00:53:54,132 --> 00:53:55,585

Marc: being the first thing, making coffee in the

 

Speaker:

00:53:55,605 --> 00:53:55,868

Marc: morning.

 

Speaker:

00:53:57,419 --> 00:53:58,406

Marc: I was speaking with Billy Magnuson and he

 

Speaker:

00:53:58,426 --> 00:54:00,244

Marc: said the ritual of making coffee in the

 

Speaker:

00:54:00,284 --> 00:54:00,506

Marc: morning.

 

Speaker:

00:54:01,011 --> 00:54:02,318

Marc: I'm like yes, that's a thing like grind my

 

Speaker:

00:54:02,338 --> 00:54:04,837

Marc: beans, do the thing.

 

Speaker:

00:54:04,857 --> 00:54:06,546

Marc: That's for me the way you know, totally,

 

Speaker:

00:54:07,471 --> 00:54:08,905

Marc: and I'm out of beans so I didn't start my

 

Speaker:

00:54:08,945 --> 00:54:10,570

Marc: day like that, so I feel a little off.

 

Speaker:

00:54:10,610 --> 00:54:12,935

Marc: But anything else in there, are you?

 

Speaker:

00:54:12,955 --> 00:54:13,257

Marc: You?

 

Speaker:

00:54:13,498 --> 00:54:14,824

Announcer: know as far as hobbies or activities you

 

Speaker:

00:54:14,884 --> 00:54:15,327

Announcer: like to do.

 

Speaker:

00:54:16,151 --> 00:54:16,955

Marc: Yeah, I mean, I love to read.

 

Speaker:

00:54:20,819 --> 00:54:21,743

Anja: I love to just like.

 

Speaker:

00:54:21,903 --> 00:54:23,069

Anja: I'm exploring lots of different movement in

 

Speaker:

00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:26,306

Anja: my life, so I want to take up maybe some

 

Speaker:

00:54:26,427 --> 00:54:27,030

Anja: martial arts.

 

Speaker:

00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:28,658

Anja: Yeah, I'm thinking about Taekwondo or

 

Speaker:

00:54:28,739 --> 00:54:31,375

Anja: something like that, just like I'm thinking

 

Speaker:

00:54:31,395 --> 00:54:33,473

Anja: about Taekwondo, something like that just

 

Speaker:

00:54:33,533 --> 00:54:37,553

Anja: to A be able to defend myself but also just

 

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00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:40,314

Anja: challenge myself in a way, and I kind of

 

Speaker:

00:54:40,354 --> 00:54:41,891

Anja: like that they have all the belts that you

 

Speaker:

00:54:41,912 --> 00:54:43,878

Anja: have to earn and stuff and kind of gives

 

Speaker:

00:54:43,898 --> 00:54:44,929

Anja: you something to focus on.

 

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00:54:45,150 --> 00:54:46,195

Anja: I think that's really cool.

 

Speaker:

00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:51,523

Anja: But yeah, just I think trying new skills,

 

Speaker:

00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:55,720

Anja: trying a new thing and learning something

 

Speaker:

00:54:56,052 --> 00:54:57,304

Anja: is always a good day for me.

 

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00:54:57,325 --> 00:54:57,789

Anja: You know?

 

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00:54:57,991 --> 00:54:59,798

Marc: Yeah, because as you get older it becomes a

 

Speaker:

00:54:59,858 --> 00:55:01,592

Marc: little bit of seductive, just to go with a

 

Speaker:

00:55:01,632 --> 00:55:04,931

Marc: thing that's comfortable and routine and

 

Speaker:

00:55:04,971 --> 00:55:07,013

Marc: it's kind of nice to break it up it is and

 

Speaker:

00:55:07,033 --> 00:55:07,997

Marc: to challenge yourself.

 

Speaker:

00:55:08,291 --> 00:55:10,003

Marc: I was thinking about that like the Tai Chi

 

Speaker:

00:55:10,124 --> 00:55:11,933

Marc: or yoga was a thing you know, just to stay

 

Speaker:

00:55:12,034 --> 00:55:13,178

Marc: limber, you know.

 

Speaker:

00:55:14,222 --> 00:55:15,787

Anja: I keep telling me that's on my agenda.

 

Speaker:

00:55:15,867 --> 00:55:17,638

Marc: I still want to do that Just to just to be

 

Speaker:

00:55:17,779 --> 00:55:19,130

Marc: limber, and people I know that are into it

 

Speaker:

00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:20,957

Marc: seem to be healthier generally.

 

Speaker:

00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:22,635

Anja: Have you done yoga before?

 

Speaker:

00:55:22,835 --> 00:55:23,538

Marc: Unintentionally.

 

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00:55:26,328 --> 00:55:26,830

Anja: My back hurts.

 

Speaker:

00:55:26,993 --> 00:55:28,981

Anja: I have to do the stretch, yeah, but not

 

Speaker:

00:55:29,042 --> 00:55:29,710

Anja: actually I did a thing.

 

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00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:31,336

Marc: I was in a car accident years ago and they

 

Speaker:

00:55:31,356 --> 00:55:34,745

Marc: were talking about had some herniated discs

 

Speaker:

00:55:34,765 --> 00:55:36,314

Marc: and they said well, you got to show me

 

Speaker:

00:55:36,334 --> 00:55:37,037

Marc: different exercises.

 

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00:55:37,251 --> 00:55:37,392

Announcer: Like.

 

Speaker:

00:55:37,994 --> 00:55:38,256

Marc: I did.

 

Speaker:

00:55:38,532 --> 00:55:39,926

Marc: I remember doing a couple of them, thinking

 

Speaker:

00:55:39,986 --> 00:55:42,478

Marc: generally oh, I feel looser in other places

 

Speaker:

00:55:42,538 --> 00:55:44,419

Marc: too, so I need to do that.

 

Speaker:

00:55:44,611 --> 00:55:46,792

Marc: You should write a little note here, yoga

 

Speaker:

00:55:47,314 --> 00:55:49,310

Marc: yoga, I got to put that on my little daily,

 

Speaker:

00:55:49,491 --> 00:55:50,996

Marc: my notepad of things to do for the day, but

 

Speaker:

00:55:51,036 --> 00:55:51,438

Marc: at the top.

 

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00:55:51,871 --> 00:55:53,637

Anja: Maybe, maybe you need to sign up for a

 

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00:55:53,717 --> 00:55:54,099

Anja: class.

 

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00:55:54,511 --> 00:55:57,111

Anja: I am my husband doesn't vary into yoga, but

 

Speaker:

00:55:57,192 --> 00:55:59,663

Anja: I signed me and him up for a class.

 

Speaker:

00:55:59,703 --> 00:56:01,310

Anja: That's once a week and it's super simple.

 

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00:56:01,432 --> 00:56:03,914

Anja: It's it's yin yoga, so it's much more of

 

Speaker:

00:56:03,934 --> 00:56:06,141

Anja: like a deeper stretch yoga.

 

Speaker:

00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:07,550

Anja: It doesn't, you don't sweat as much.

 

Speaker:

00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:11,200

Anja: It's more like a deep stretch and he really

 

Speaker:

00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:14,467

Anja: loves it and it's new for him, but he's

 

Speaker:

00:56:14,527 --> 00:56:14,890

Anja: enjoying it.

 

Speaker:

00:56:15,011 --> 00:56:16,525

Anja: So I think, yeah, maybe if you push

 

Speaker:

00:56:16,545 --> 00:56:17,070

Anja: yourself to sign up.

 

Speaker:

00:56:17,170 --> 00:56:18,736

Marc: Well, one of the reasons I told my kids

 

Speaker:

00:56:18,776 --> 00:56:20,835

Marc: that I, that I wanted this destination to

 

Speaker:

00:56:20,876 --> 00:56:23,376

Marc: live on, this, this island is I got let's

 

Speaker:

00:56:23,416 --> 00:56:26,016

Marc: see which direction I got the beach 600

 

Speaker:

00:56:26,036 --> 00:56:28,758

Marc: feet that way, I think, so I can just go.

 

Speaker:

00:56:29,114 --> 00:56:30,309

Marc: You know, I got the beach like right there

 

Speaker:

00:56:30,510 --> 00:56:32,357

Marc: so I can go out, walk every day, get some

 

Speaker:

00:56:32,417 --> 00:56:36,015

Marc: exercise and and it's I just think it's

 

Speaker:

00:56:36,135 --> 00:56:38,371

Marc: being active becomes more and more Like.

 

Speaker:

00:56:38,491 --> 00:56:39,937

Marc: you become aware of it because you can be

 

Speaker:

00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:41,775

Marc: if I find myself being like.

 

Speaker:

00:56:41,895 --> 00:56:44,412

Marc: I'm been sedentary for a lot lately, a lot

 

Speaker:

00:56:44,432 --> 00:56:46,510

Marc: of the time lately, so I need to get moved.

 

Speaker:

00:56:46,651 --> 00:56:48,423

Anja: Totally, it's so easy to be.

 

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00:56:48,591 --> 00:56:49,776

Marc: Well, you mentioned, you know you, having a

 

Speaker:

00:56:49,836 --> 00:56:50,077

Marc: dog.

 

Speaker:

00:56:50,451 --> 00:56:52,412

Marc: I had a wonderful golden retriever Almost

 

Speaker:

00:56:52,452 --> 00:56:54,397

Marc: exactly a year ago past and my heart's

 

Speaker:

00:56:54,417 --> 00:56:56,030

Marc: still broken, you know, but we're still

 

Speaker:

00:56:56,211 --> 00:56:57,299

Marc: we're starting to think about a puppy now,

 

Speaker:

00:56:57,319 --> 00:56:59,111

Marc: oh of course, oh, but thank you Now.

 

Speaker:

00:56:59,212 --> 00:57:02,445

Marc: But I I realized that having a dog keeps

 

Speaker:

00:57:02,465 --> 00:57:03,690

Marc: you far more active as well.

 

Speaker:

00:57:03,931 --> 00:57:05,215

Marc: Just that simple thing of getting out

 

Speaker:

00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:08,400

Marc: walking a few times a day, you know, going

 

Speaker:

00:57:08,420 --> 00:57:09,840

Marc: on adventures with your dog Absolutely.

 

Speaker:

00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:10,305

Anja: It does.

 

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00:57:10,366 --> 00:57:11,614

Marc: I love it Now did you bring your dog on

 

Speaker:

00:57:11,654 --> 00:57:12,517

Marc: your on your road trip?

 

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00:57:12,851 --> 00:57:13,333

Anja: I did?

 

Speaker:

00:57:13,534 --> 00:57:14,337

Anja: Yeah, we did.

 

Speaker:

00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:17,038

Anja: He lived with us in New Mexico and he was

 

Speaker:

00:57:17,058 --> 00:57:19,716

Anja: still a puppy then, so it was kind of his

 

Speaker:

00:57:19,776 --> 00:57:22,296

Anja: first home and the first time he saw snow.

 

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00:57:22,832 --> 00:57:24,136

Marc: Oh, I think you put a picture on your

 

Speaker:

00:57:24,196 --> 00:57:25,933

Marc: Instagram of him, I think when he was

 

Speaker:

00:57:25,953 --> 00:57:26,757

Marc: sleeping or something.

 

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00:57:27,651 --> 00:57:28,034

Anja: I did.

 

Speaker:

00:57:28,114 --> 00:57:30,630

Anja: He's super cute, his name's Ollie.

 

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00:57:30,891 --> 00:57:31,594

Marc: Oh he is a cutie.

 

Speaker:

00:57:31,634 --> 00:57:32,177

Marc: He is a cutie.

 

Speaker:

00:57:33,071 --> 00:57:33,935

Marc: I'm a big dog person.

 

Speaker:

00:57:34,351 --> 00:57:34,816

Anja: Me too.

 

Speaker:

00:57:35,078 --> 00:57:36,430

Anja: I love dogs so much.

 

Speaker:

00:57:36,571 --> 00:57:38,418

Anja: I wanted a dog ever since I was a kid.

 

Speaker:

00:57:39,452 --> 00:57:42,115

Anja: We never had one growing up, so having one

 

Speaker:

00:57:42,155 --> 00:57:44,241

Anja: now is just it's a dream.

 

Speaker:

00:57:44,971 --> 00:57:46,476

Anja: I am so obsessed with him.

 

Speaker:

00:57:46,536 --> 00:57:48,702

Anja: It's like too much that person.

 

Speaker:

00:57:49,031 --> 00:57:50,537

Anja: I try to keep the pictures to a minimum,

 

Speaker:

00:57:51,070 --> 00:57:53,703

Anja: but I definitely like internally.

 

Speaker:

00:57:53,723 --> 00:57:55,474

Anja: I'm just so obsessed I.

 

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00:57:55,656 --> 00:57:57,150

Anja: It's so cool to live with an animal.

 

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00:57:57,311 --> 00:57:59,710

Marc: Nope, I say, post all the pictures you want.

 

Speaker:

00:57:59,871 --> 00:58:00,939

Marc: Dog people get it.

 

Speaker:

00:58:01,261 --> 00:58:03,095

Marc: You know, with with my golden he would be

 

Speaker:

00:58:03,116 --> 00:58:03,904

Marc: in the studio with me.

 

Speaker:

00:58:03,925 --> 00:58:06,020

Marc: Yeah that's true, you know, and it, it, it.

 

Speaker:

00:58:06,101 --> 00:58:06,947

Marc: I think I took it hard to read.

 

Speaker:

00:58:06,987 --> 00:58:08,276

Marc: Even my kids and I know it wasn't.

 

Speaker:

00:58:08,296 --> 00:58:09,707

Marc: They grew up with him from the time he was

 

Speaker:

00:58:09,748 --> 00:58:11,194

Marc: a little puppy and I wanted them to have a

 

Speaker:

00:58:11,636 --> 00:58:14,233

Marc: dog but, I, was realizing he was only 10,

 

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00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:15,578

Marc: which is kind of young.

 

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00:58:15,759 --> 00:58:17,550

Marc: You know for my experience with dogs.

 

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00:58:17,751 --> 00:58:20,950

Anja: I was just young and goldens are so lovely.

 

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00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,091

Marc: They're puppies their whole life, but

 

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00:58:23,111 --> 00:58:25,807

Marc: they're also very very noble and very

 

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00:58:25,868 --> 00:58:27,757

Marc: intelligent, smarter than me in many

 

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00:58:27,797 --> 00:58:28,219

Marc: regards.

 

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00:58:28,279 --> 00:58:30,610

Marc: You know he was and beautiful.

 

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00:58:30,791 --> 00:58:32,564

Marc: Yeah, the only the only downside and

 

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00:58:32,584 --> 00:58:33,511

Marc: there's not really a downside, just

 

Speaker:

00:58:33,557 --> 00:58:34,975

Marc: something you have to prepare yourself for

 

Speaker:

00:58:35,021 --> 00:58:36,223

Marc: and you have a golden Is she need a really

 

Speaker:

00:58:36,291 --> 00:58:37,228

Marc: good vacuum cleaner.

 

Speaker:

00:58:37,370 --> 00:58:38,415

Marc: They shed like crazy.

 

Speaker:

00:58:38,676 --> 00:58:40,723

Marc: You know, Anybody has a golden is me like

 

Speaker:

00:58:40,743 --> 00:58:41,288

Marc: hell, yeah, yeah.

 

Speaker:

00:58:41,712 --> 00:58:43,930

Marc: It's just, we're moving and he's, he's past

 

Speaker:

00:58:44,091 --> 00:58:45,928

Marc: and we're still finding somehow there are

 

Speaker:

00:58:45,948 --> 00:58:47,774

Marc: little bits of his hair have shown up here,

 

Speaker:

00:58:48,198 --> 00:58:49,430

Marc: 700 something miles away.

 

Speaker:

00:58:49,631 --> 00:58:51,999

Announcer: So it's you know anything, that that's.

 

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00:58:52,411 --> 00:58:55,140

Marc: I have some components of my studio sound

 

Speaker:

00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,417

Marc: booth that rely on some of the corners,

 

Speaker:

00:58:57,437 --> 00:58:57,979

Marc: like Velcro.

 

Speaker:

00:58:58,931 --> 00:58:59,895

Marc: There are little bits of his hair.

 

Speaker:

00:58:59,915 --> 00:59:00,577

Marc: They caught in the Velcro.

 

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00:59:00,650 --> 00:59:01,393

Anja: Yeah, oh there.

 

Speaker:

00:59:01,433 --> 00:59:03,039

Anja: I'm sure there's hair in there forever.

 

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00:59:03,391 --> 00:59:04,255

Anja: You'll never get that out.

 

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00:59:04,570 --> 00:59:06,277

Anja: That's the glitter that you get from the

 

Speaker:

00:59:06,317 --> 00:59:06,618

Anja: dogs.

 

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00:59:07,051 --> 00:59:08,537

Marc: Puppy yes, indeed.

 

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00:59:09,511 --> 00:59:11,658

Marc: Now the last couple of questions I got for

 

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00:59:11,699 --> 00:59:14,076

Marc: you is if you weren't doing this, if you

 

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00:59:14,136 --> 00:59:17,881

Marc: weren't on camera enjoying, riding, doing

 

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00:59:17,901 --> 00:59:19,377

Marc: the thing creatively you're doing, what

 

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00:59:19,438 --> 00:59:20,270

Marc: else would you be doing?

 

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00:59:20,391 --> 00:59:21,415

Marc: Could you see yourself doing?

 

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Anja: That's a good question.

 

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00:59:25,271 --> 00:59:27,232

Anja: Also, I think when I was little I would

 

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00:59:27,252 --> 00:59:29,705

Anja: have answered marine biologist, because

 

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00:59:29,865 --> 00:59:31,593

Anja: everybody I know wanted to be a marine

 

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00:59:31,613 --> 00:59:32,898

Anja: biologist for some reason.

 

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Anja: But I think now, if I could already have

 

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00:59:38,341 --> 00:59:41,978

Anja: like the credentials behind me, I think I'd

 

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00:59:41,998 --> 00:59:44,270

Anja: want to be something connected to like

 

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00:59:45,092 --> 00:59:51,303

Anja: space or like astronomy or something to do

 

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00:59:51,364 --> 00:59:54,590

Anja: with just what's out there.

 

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00:59:54,711 --> 00:59:55,649

Anja: That's very cool.

 

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00:59:56,418 --> 00:59:57,530

Marc: I mean there's a lot of wonder out there,

 

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00:59:58,092 --> 01:00:00,562

Marc: there's a lot of the unknown which makes it

 

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01:00:01,426 --> 01:00:02,410

Marc: like cool contemplation.

 

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Marc: But to actually, like you said, be

 

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01:00:04,488 --> 01:00:06,441

Marc: credentialed, I spoke with Neil deGrasse

 

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01:00:06,461 --> 01:00:07,790

Marc: Tyson some time ago last year.

 

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Anja: I was like what a cool job I saw that, I

 

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01:00:11,681 --> 01:00:13,319

Anja: just think that's such a he came to mind,

 

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01:00:13,339 --> 01:00:15,157

Anja: when I was just thinking that I mean here's

 

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01:00:15,178 --> 01:00:17,263

Anja: somebody who studied the thing but still

 

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01:00:17,283 --> 01:00:17,950

Anja: has some aspect of wonder to it.

 

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01:00:18,641 --> 01:00:18,966

Marc: I'm like what?

 

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01:00:18,986 --> 01:00:21,262

Announcer: a cool gig, and that's why I'm so

 

Speaker:

01:00:21,282 --> 01:00:22,570

Announcer: infinitely jazzed to drive down.

 

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01:00:23,417 --> 01:00:24,830

Marc: It's called Boca Chica Park.

 

Speaker:

01:00:24,871 --> 01:00:26,187

Marc: Well, it used to be a park.

 

Speaker:

01:00:26,450 --> 01:00:27,563

Marc: That's where SpaceX is located.

 

Speaker:

01:00:29,097 --> 01:00:30,648

Marc: Starbase is the name of the place.

 

Speaker:

01:00:30,668 --> 01:00:33,568

Marc: So cool and everybody I know I haven't seen

 

Speaker:

01:00:33,588 --> 01:00:36,023

Marc: a launch yet, because the last one happened

 

Speaker:

01:00:36,044 --> 01:00:37,050

Marc: right before we moved here.

 

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01:00:38,136 --> 01:00:39,725

Marc: But they said you stand there and you

 

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01:00:39,785 --> 01:00:40,933

Marc: actually can feel the vibrations in your

 

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01:00:41,035 --> 01:00:43,479

Marc: chest of the rocket taken off, Like how

 

Speaker:

01:00:43,539 --> 01:00:44,247

Marc: cool is that?

 

Speaker:

01:00:44,267 --> 01:00:44,408

Marc: Wow.

 

Speaker:

01:00:45,799 --> 01:00:47,390

Marc: But, even when it exploded you could hear

 

Speaker:

01:00:47,654 --> 01:00:49,795

Marc: I've watched some video of it People were

 

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01:00:49,815 --> 01:00:52,085

Marc: like cheering because the explosion looked

 

Speaker:

01:00:52,105 --> 01:00:52,367

Marc: really cool.

 

Speaker:

01:00:52,387 --> 01:00:53,964

Marc: But I've been watching, I've been kind of

 

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01:00:53,985 --> 01:00:54,270

Marc: nerding out.

 

Speaker:

01:00:55,023 --> 01:00:56,686

Marc: There's a I'll give you my free little plug

 

Speaker:

01:00:56,758 --> 01:00:56,939

Marc: here.

 

Speaker:

01:00:57,903 --> 01:00:59,669

Marc: It's called WAI, what about it?

 

Speaker:

01:01:00,638 --> 01:01:01,547

Marc: I think there are these guys that follow

 

Speaker:

01:01:01,567 --> 01:01:03,843

Marc: what's going on and I'm kind of learning

 

Speaker:

01:01:03,903 --> 01:01:06,161

Marc: about the whole SpaceX ecosystem through

 

Speaker:

01:01:06,181 --> 01:01:06,908

Marc: these guys on YouTube.

 

Speaker:

01:01:06,929 --> 01:01:07,070

Marc: So cool.

 

Speaker:

01:01:07,070 --> 01:01:08,190

Marc: And they're talking about what's going on

 

Speaker:

01:01:08,877 --> 01:01:10,250

Marc: and I can go out my door, drive my car.

 

Speaker:

01:01:10,553 --> 01:01:12,010

Marc: My daughter and I take a drive and I'll see

 

Speaker:

01:01:12,391 --> 01:01:13,695

Marc: we have to cross a bridge to get into

 

Speaker:

01:01:13,756 --> 01:01:15,763

Marc: what's called Port Isabel and we're driving

 

Speaker:

01:01:15,784 --> 01:01:16,110

Marc: over the bridge.

 

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01:01:16,291 --> 01:01:18,804

Marc: You can see the launch tower, the lights

 

Speaker:

01:01:18,844 --> 01:01:20,030

Marc: that blink for aircraft.

 

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01:01:20,295 --> 01:01:20,906

Marc: You know it's cool.

 

Speaker:

01:01:21,331 --> 01:01:22,560

Marc: I mean I kind of nerd out on it.

 

Speaker:

01:01:22,601 --> 01:01:24,517

Marc: I get I turn into a kid all over again

 

Speaker:

01:01:24,557 --> 01:01:26,063

Marc: about anything's space.

 

Speaker:

01:01:27,388 --> 01:01:29,115

Marc: But hey, you never know, Maybe one day plan

 

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01:01:29,135 --> 01:01:29,577

Marc: when you know they're.

 

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01:01:29,770 --> 01:01:31,054

Marc: They said eventually they're going to get

 

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01:01:31,114 --> 01:01:33,712

Marc: to, I think, 12 launches a month, which is

 

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01:01:33,732 --> 01:01:34,937

Marc: just going to be crazy cool.

 

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01:01:34,977 --> 01:01:36,656

Anja: So that's really cool.

 

Speaker:

01:01:37,111 --> 01:01:38,577

Marc: So would you ever be an astronaut, though?

 

Speaker:

01:01:39,152 --> 01:01:40,225

Marc: If you were given the opportunity and

 

Speaker:

01:01:40,246 --> 01:01:41,893

Marc: somebody said you can go on our next space

 

Speaker:

01:01:41,933 --> 01:01:44,560

Marc: station we're launching for three months,

 

Speaker:

01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,062

Marc: would you do it?

 

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01:01:45,370 --> 01:01:47,377

Anja: It's funny because I was going to ask you

 

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01:01:47,397 --> 01:01:50,738

Anja: that and I don't know if I'd have the guts.

 

Speaker:

01:01:51,151 --> 01:01:52,175

Anja: I think that is.

 

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01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:55,556

Anja: Those people are so brave to just go out

 

Speaker:

01:01:55,717 --> 01:01:58,663

Anja: and deal with no gravity and float around

 

Speaker:

01:01:58,743 --> 01:02:02,596

Anja: and drink their water in those weird

 

Speaker:

01:02:02,656 --> 01:02:03,218

Anja: droplets.

 

Speaker:

01:02:03,532 --> 01:02:06,449

Anja: I don't, I don't know how the human body

 

Speaker:

01:02:06,489 --> 01:02:07,393

Anja: can even be there.

 

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01:02:07,565 --> 01:02:08,630

Anja: I don't understand it.

 

Speaker:

01:02:08,865 --> 01:02:09,870

Anja: I don't want to be there.

 

Speaker:

01:02:10,507 --> 01:02:11,471

Marc: I would do it just because.

 

Speaker:

01:02:11,531 --> 01:02:13,088

Marc: I'm in this phase, like if I was younger

 

Speaker:

01:02:13,128 --> 01:02:13,510

Marc: I'd be like well.

 

Speaker:

01:02:13,530 --> 01:02:14,213

Announcer: I got kids.

 

Speaker:

01:02:14,505 --> 01:02:15,429

Marc: I want to make sure you know they're

 

Speaker:

01:02:15,449 --> 01:02:15,810

Marc: growing up.

 

Speaker:

01:02:16,385 --> 01:02:17,490

Marc: Now I'm in a phase of my life.

 

Speaker:

01:02:18,045 --> 01:02:20,674

Marc: I just turned 50 last year and I was like

 

Speaker:

01:02:21,145 --> 01:02:22,712

Marc: you know I want life experiences.

 

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01:02:22,825 --> 01:02:24,865

Marc: If somebody offered me that opportunity and

 

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01:02:24,906 --> 01:02:26,812

Marc: it was legit, you know, and it was like,

 

Speaker:

01:02:27,525 --> 01:02:28,228

Marc: and I was like, you know, what.

 

Speaker:

01:02:29,485 --> 01:02:30,047

Marc: Carpe diem.

 

Speaker:

01:02:30,248 --> 01:02:32,767

Marc: You know I might as well do it, but you're

 

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01:02:32,808 --> 01:02:32,948

Marc: right.

 

Speaker:

01:02:33,465 --> 01:02:35,631

Marc: I also, on the other end of the scale, am a

 

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01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:36,915

Marc: appreciation.

 

Speaker:

01:02:37,225 --> 01:02:38,269

Marc: I have a lot of appreciation for

 

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01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:40,649

Marc: convenience and just something as simple as

 

Speaker:

01:02:40,689 --> 01:02:41,993

Marc: the showering which you can't do.

 

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01:02:42,225 --> 01:02:44,592

Marc: You're just kind of giving yourself a towel

 

Speaker:

01:02:44,612 --> 01:02:46,369

Marc: bath every day, I think after a while.

 

Speaker:

01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:47,950

Marc: I think I don't know how those people were

 

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01:02:47,991 --> 01:02:50,132

Marc: up there for like a year plus, you know.

 

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01:02:50,505 --> 01:02:52,272

Anja: How do, like the organs function?

 

Speaker:

01:02:52,505 --> 01:02:54,332

Anja: How does how is anything working?

 

Speaker:

01:02:54,485 --> 01:02:55,873

Anja: I don't understand.

 

Speaker:

01:02:55,925 --> 01:02:57,049

Anja: How is the blood moving?

 

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01:02:57,330 --> 01:02:57,913

Anja: I don't get it.

 

Speaker:

01:02:58,125 --> 01:02:58,968

Anja: I don't understand.

 

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01:03:00,608 --> 01:03:02,227

Marc: It can't be good for you, I mean you have

 

Speaker:

01:03:02,288 --> 01:03:05,690

Marc: to have a certain amount of exercise every

 

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01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:06,713

Marc: day, you know.

 

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01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:09,670

Marc: But you know.

 

Speaker:

01:03:09,770 --> 01:03:12,108

Marc: Actually, a little nerd note for you, and I

 

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01:03:12,148 --> 01:03:14,315

Marc: guess you would, next to Neil deGrasse

 

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01:03:14,385 --> 01:03:15,429

Marc: Tyson, the only guest who would really

 

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01:03:15,449 --> 01:03:15,991

Marc: appreciate it.

 

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01:03:16,766 --> 01:03:20,009

Marc: I found out that they said that when, when

 

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01:03:20,089 --> 01:03:21,826

Marc: your circadian rhythm, your clock is based

 

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01:03:21,866 --> 01:03:24,250

Marc: on 24 hours down here, because you know 24

 

Speaker:

01:03:24,310 --> 01:03:26,672

Marc: hours on Earth, but when you go into space,

 

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01:03:26,785 --> 01:03:30,815

Marc: your circadian rhythm recalibrates to 24.9

 

Speaker:

01:03:31,717 --> 01:03:34,952

Marc: hours a day, which is the rotation of Mars.

 

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01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:36,769

Marc: So that's why they, that's why some of the

 

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01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:38,068

Marc: people theoretically are going.

 

Speaker:

01:03:38,449 --> 01:03:41,066

Marc: It's possible we came from Mars, you know,

 

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01:03:41,086 --> 01:03:42,331

Marc: and see here people talking about stuff

 

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01:03:42,371 --> 01:03:42,652

Marc: like that.

 

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01:03:42,785 --> 01:03:43,990

Marc: It just kind of adds a little wonder in

 

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01:03:44,031 --> 01:03:45,771

Marc: there, like why, when you're in space,

 

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01:03:45,965 --> 01:03:46,868

Marc: would you adjust?

 

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01:03:47,550 --> 01:03:48,734

Marc: I don't know how accurate that is.

 

Speaker:

01:03:48,865 --> 01:03:51,668

Marc: It's fun to contemplate, but have you, did

 

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01:03:51,708 --> 01:03:52,190

Marc: you see?

 

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01:03:53,125 --> 01:03:54,871

Anja: did you see that NASA discovered another

 

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01:03:54,932 --> 01:03:57,692

Anja: planet that's like seven times bigger than

 

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01:03:57,792 --> 01:04:02,675

Anja: Earth and it has water, and basically, what

 

Speaker:

01:04:02,735 --> 01:04:03,357

Anja: is that about?

 

Speaker:

01:04:03,565 --> 01:04:04,590

Anja: That's insane.

 

Speaker:

01:04:04,945 --> 01:04:06,290

Anja: How are we not all talking about that?

 

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01:04:07,265 --> 01:04:10,648

Anja: Screw Mars, yeah, they're like, let's go

 

Speaker:

01:04:10,728 --> 01:04:10,990

Anja: there.

 

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01:04:11,185 --> 01:04:11,750

Anja: What are we doing?

 

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01:04:12,396 --> 01:04:12,961

Marc: There was, I told you.

 

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01:04:12,981 --> 01:04:14,750

Marc: I told you I was speaking with Shoray

 

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01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:15,312

Marc: Agdashlu.

 

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01:04:15,445 --> 01:04:16,629

Marc: I don't did you ever see a TV show?

 

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01:04:17,865 --> 01:04:19,090

Marc: The Expanse, by any chance.

 

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01:04:19,665 --> 01:04:21,752

Anja: No, but I know of it, I know of it.

 

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01:04:22,173 --> 01:04:22,735

Marc: Oh, you must.

 

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01:04:22,885 --> 01:04:24,632

Marc: Okay, I'm telling you that's gotta be on

 

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01:04:24,652 --> 01:04:24,953

Marc: your reading.

 

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01:04:25,045 --> 01:04:26,446

Marc: I told Neil deGrasse Tyson that he said it

 

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01:04:26,486 --> 01:04:28,172

Marc: was on his list of things to watch, but he

 

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01:04:28,192 --> 01:04:29,387

Marc: hadn't watched it because we were talking

 

Speaker:

01:04:29,407 --> 01:04:32,431

Marc: about which movie got it mostly right when

 

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01:04:32,451 --> 01:04:34,348

Marc: it came to sci-fi, and I think he mentioned

 

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01:04:34,368 --> 01:04:35,492

Marc: the Martian with Matt Damon.

 

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01:04:35,645 --> 01:04:35,946

Anja: Cool.

 

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01:04:36,007 --> 01:04:37,132

Anja: Yeah, I heard he did a great job.

 

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01:04:38,228 --> 01:04:42,839

Marc: But this it's a realistic view into the

 

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01:04:42,879 --> 01:04:43,180

Marc: future.

 

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01:04:43,425 --> 01:04:45,573

Marc: You know what two 300 years would we be

 

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01:04:45,593 --> 01:04:45,774

Marc: doing?

 

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01:04:45,865 --> 01:04:47,905

Marc: You'd have people who've colonized Mars but

 

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01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:49,191

Marc: you'd have people living in the asteroid

 

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01:04:49,231 --> 01:04:50,831

Marc: belt because they do the mining and stuff.

 

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01:04:50,905 --> 01:04:52,571

Marc: So you're starting to look at human nature

 

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01:04:52,611 --> 01:04:54,589

Marc: and culture shot through the lens of

 

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Marc: something sci-fi, and it's very.

 

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Marc: It seems so plausible.

 

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01:04:59,985 --> 01:05:01,385

Marc: It doesn't really seem like sci-fi, it's

 

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Marc: kind of like what if you know, Anyway, I

 

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Marc: mean I don't know if I've ever nerded out

 

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Marc: besides talking Neil deGrasse Tyson, but

 

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Marc: there you go.

 

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Marc: It's a little bit of my nerdness for you.

 

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Anja: No, that's fun.

 

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Anja: I'm getting more into sci-fi.

 

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Marc: It is so well, it's well written.

 

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01:05:16,967 --> 01:05:19,234

Marc: The act, the ensemble, the cast, I think

 

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01:05:19,274 --> 01:05:19,795

Marc: it's so well.

 

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01:05:19,925 --> 01:05:22,127

Marc: It's everything about it so well done and

 

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01:05:22,769 --> 01:05:24,614

Marc: you know season to see, and it's based off

 

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01:05:24,655 --> 01:05:24,915

Marc: a book.

 

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01:05:25,065 --> 01:05:26,906

Marc: So some of my nerd friends are like but did

 

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Marc: you read the books?

 

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Marc: Though?

 

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Marc: You know I was like, no, I'm too lazy for

 

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01:05:30,332 --> 01:05:30,473

Marc: that.

 

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Anja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're like the show's

 

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Anja: enough.

 

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Marc: But you know, if you had the opportunity,

 

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Marc: you'd be working in astrophysics and in

 

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Marc: that ecosystem.

 

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Marc: That's very cool.

 

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01:05:39,455 --> 01:05:40,056

Marc: That's very cool.

 

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Anja: Oh God, yeah, that would be fascinating.

 

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Anja: I mean, I don't know if I have the smarts

 

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Anja: for it, but if I could have the smarts for

 

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Anja: it and the credentials, that would be it

 

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01:05:47,715 --> 01:05:47,995

Anja: for sure.

 

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Marc: You know, that's the thing that held me

 

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01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:51,028

Marc: back math, you know so.

 

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01:05:51,645 --> 01:05:53,633

Anja: Math is so hard, math is the worst.

 

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Marc: My daughter, like one of them, was talking

 

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01:05:55,231 --> 01:05:56,868

Marc: about trigonometry and all that, and I

 

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01:05:56,888 --> 01:05:58,333

Marc: don't want to let on how dumb their dad is

 

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01:05:58,385 --> 01:05:59,461

Marc: when it comes to math.

 

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01:05:59,785 --> 01:06:02,026

Marc: There's a certain point where I ask him do

 

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01:06:02,046 --> 01:06:02,910

Marc: you need any help with that?

 

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01:06:02,965 --> 01:06:04,571

Marc: And they almost want to pat me on the head

 

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01:06:04,611 --> 01:06:06,047

Marc: like, oh, bless your heart, you know you're

 

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01:06:06,227 --> 01:06:07,532

Marc: not going to be able to help me you know.

 

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Anja: But math is one of those things that once

 

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01:06:10,553 --> 01:06:12,750

Anja: you lose track of where you are and the

 

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01:06:12,790 --> 01:06:14,287

Anja: teacher is moving ahead, you're kind of

 

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01:06:14,327 --> 01:06:15,191

Anja: screwed, you know.

 

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01:06:15,466 --> 01:06:16,625

Anja: So that's the problem.

 

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01:06:16,685 --> 01:06:19,088

Marc: Yeah, pretty much that you defined every

 

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01:06:19,128 --> 01:06:20,873

Marc: math class I was in from the time I was in

 

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Marc: ninth grade.

 

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01:06:21,665 --> 01:06:24,374

Marc: You know it's like, OK, I can't hit pause

 

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01:06:24,414 --> 01:06:25,850

Marc: or rewind, it's just moving forward.

 

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01:06:26,145 --> 01:06:28,486

Marc: Yeah, and they're not going to yeah, no

 

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01:06:28,526 --> 01:06:30,433

Marc: tutoring is going to help this disaster

 

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01:06:30,493 --> 01:06:33,147

Marc: area, but Too far gone.

 

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Marc: The last question I got for you if you were

 

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01:06:35,470 --> 01:06:38,306

Marc: to jump in a DeLorean, go back in time and

 

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01:06:38,346 --> 01:06:39,953

Marc: you travel back when you're 16 years old

 

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01:06:40,065 --> 01:06:41,566

Marc: and you have a piece of advice, you have a

 

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Marc: moment with yourself to either put yourself

 

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01:06:44,065 --> 01:06:46,734

Marc: on a better or a different track you think

 

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01:06:46,754 --> 01:06:49,332

Marc: would be great, or to make your moment at

 

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Marc: 16 a little bit better.

 

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01:06:50,405 --> 01:06:53,292

Marc: What would that advice be for younger Anya?

 

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Anja: I think it would be don't be so hard on

 

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Anja: yourself.

 

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Anja: I think when we're really young, we're

 

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Anja: always trying to be adult also and figure

 

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Anja: everything out.

 

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01:07:07,785 --> 01:07:09,772

Anja: And I think I was just really hard on

 

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01:07:09,812 --> 01:07:12,630

Anja: myself and I think that's the advice I'd

 

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01:07:12,650 --> 01:07:15,878

Anja: give any teenager is just you are who you

 

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Anja: are, you're trying your best, you'll figure

 

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Anja: it out.

 

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Anja: Don't stress so much about the future.

 

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01:07:22,295 --> 01:07:22,696

Anja: Chill out.

 

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01:07:22,925 --> 01:07:23,528

Anja: Chill out a bit.

 

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Marc: Yeah, unfortunately don't have the wisdom

 

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01:07:25,851 --> 01:07:28,432

Marc: at that age to realize this too shall pass.

 

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01:07:29,726 --> 01:07:32,205

Anja: Yes, just that, even so simple right.

 

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01:07:32,345 --> 01:07:33,790

Marc: If you knew it at that age, it would make

 

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01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:35,815

Marc: so many things so much easier.

 

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01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:37,391

Marc: There's a friend of mine who does.

 

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01:07:37,645 --> 01:07:40,869

Marc: He's an acting coach and he has a book

 

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01:07:42,111 --> 01:07:44,496

Marc: called If you Survive Seventh Grade, you

 

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01:07:44,536 --> 01:07:44,977

Marc: Can Act.

 

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01:07:45,158 --> 01:07:46,307

Marc: I think it's the name, but I know I'm

 

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01:07:46,387 --> 01:07:51,410

Marc: mangling up the name of it, that idea of

 

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01:07:51,470 --> 01:07:54,016

Marc: the awkwardness, everything going on in

 

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01:07:54,056 --> 01:07:54,557

Marc: that moment.

 

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01:07:54,905 --> 01:07:56,852

Marc: If you knew for a fact, things are going to

 

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01:07:56,872 --> 01:07:57,253

Marc: get better.

 

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01:07:57,825 --> 01:07:58,548

Marc: It's not a big deal.

 

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01:07:59,545 --> 01:08:00,490

Marc: Oh, that would be so much.

 

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01:08:01,007 --> 01:08:02,352

Marc: But you're living in an opposite world

 

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01:08:02,392 --> 01:08:03,568

Marc: where everything's like dramatic.

 

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01:08:04,305 --> 01:08:06,112

Anja: Oh God, yeah, especially at that age.

 

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01:08:06,686 --> 01:08:09,533

Marc: But I so appreciate you taking time,

 

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01:08:09,994 --> 01:08:11,137

Marc: spending some time with me today.

 

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01:08:11,185 --> 01:08:12,149

Marc: It means a lot.

 

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01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:12,972

Marc: It's so much fun.

 

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01:08:13,105 --> 01:08:14,331

Marc: I enjoyed chatting in it.

 

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01:08:14,565 --> 01:08:17,144

Marc: So nice to know there's another space nerd

 

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01:08:17,165 --> 01:08:18,712

Marc: who likes Alan Watts out there in the world.

 

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01:08:18,785 --> 01:08:19,750

Marc: It makes me feel good.

 

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01:08:20,005 --> 01:08:20,788

Anja: Absolutely.

 

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01:08:20,989 --> 01:08:21,912

Anja: Thank you for having me.

 

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01:08:21,952 --> 01:08:22,795

Anja: I really enjoyed this.

 

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01:08:23,045 --> 01:08:24,189

Marc: Hopefully we'll have a chance to connect

 

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01:08:24,209 --> 01:08:26,548

Marc: down the line Anything I can do for you

 

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01:08:26,589 --> 01:08:27,773

Marc: down the line, any new projects.

 

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01:08:28,225 --> 01:08:31,014

Marc: When you come out with that movie about the

 

Speaker:

01:08:31,054 --> 01:08:33,507

Marc: stalker the radio stalker I want to be

 

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01:08:33,527 --> 01:08:34,711

Marc: sitting in theater eating popcorn going.

 

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01:08:35,265 --> 01:08:36,570

Marc: I know where she got that idea from.

 

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01:08:37,725 --> 01:08:39,389

Anja: I'll make sure you're there at the premiere.

 

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01:08:39,991 --> 01:08:42,577

Anja: Yeah, straight to offer, straight to offer.

 

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01:08:42,725 --> 01:08:44,071

Marc: Well, you have a wonderful rest of your

 

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01:08:44,111 --> 01:08:45,268

Marc: week and hopefully we'll have a chance to

 

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01:08:45,288 --> 01:08:45,850

Marc: catch up soon.

 

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01:08:46,111 --> 01:08:46,794

Anja: Thank you, Marc.

 

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01:08:46,965 --> 01:08:48,090

Anja: This was lovely to chat.

 

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01:08:48,145 --> 01:08:49,149

Marc: And hopefully we'll see you down here for a

 

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01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:50,906

Marc: launch one day, that's wonderful, you know,

 

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01:08:50,926 --> 01:08:52,311

Marc: I'm going to dork out if I can come.

 

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01:08:52,793 --> 01:08:54,349

Anja: Ok bye, ok bye.

 

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01:08:55,372 --> 01:08:56,054

Marc: All right, there you go.

 

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01:08:56,446 --> 01:08:59,628

Marc: Anya Savchich Really enjoyed chatting with

 

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01:08:59,668 --> 01:08:59,769

Marc: her.

 

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01:09:00,090 --> 01:09:01,774

Marc: A fellow nerd, I dig it.

 

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01:09:02,035 --> 01:09:02,416

Marc: I dig it.

 

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01:09:02,885 --> 01:09:04,372

Marc: Make sure, if you haven't done so already,

 

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01:09:04,525 --> 01:09:07,694

Marc: check out Louder Milk on Netflix A great

 

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01:09:07,735 --> 01:09:07,935

Marc: show.

 

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01:09:08,325 --> 01:09:09,611

Marc: Always enjoyed Ron Livingston.

 

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01:09:09,885 --> 01:09:11,907

Marc: Whatever he's selling, I'm buying Love Ron

 

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01:09:11,927 --> 01:09:12,390

Marc: Livingston.

 

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01:09:13,085 --> 01:09:15,331

Marc: Of course Anya is in the new movie Ricky

 

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01:09:15,512 --> 01:09:17,236

Marc: Stanicki Great movie.

 

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01:09:17,465 --> 01:09:19,050

Marc: I'm going to check it out with my daughter,

 

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01:09:19,150 --> 01:09:21,730

Marc: emma, tonight when she gets back home from

 

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01:09:21,770 --> 01:09:21,971

Marc: work.

 

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01:09:22,045 --> 01:09:23,290

Marc: We're going to sit down and get a little

 

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01:09:23,330 --> 01:09:23,872

Marc: comedy on.

 

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Marc: shooting me some notes, checking in while

 

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01:09:50,106 --> 01:09:52,225

Marc: we were on hiatus, doing the big move and

 

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01:09:52,245 --> 01:09:53,149

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01:09:54,366 --> 01:09:56,814

Marc: And that's it from the beautiful sunny

 

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01:09:56,854 --> 01:09:59,412

Marc: beaches of South Padre Island that are

 

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01:09:59,453 --> 01:10:01,552

Marc: currently loaded with spring breakers.

 

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01:10:01,925 --> 01:10:03,913

Marc: So I'm going to go out and grab a beverage

 

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01:10:04,005 --> 01:10:05,630

Marc: and watch the mayhem.

 

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01:10:07,265 --> 01:10:08,630

Marc: Oh, to be young again, right?

 

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01:10:08,791 --> 01:10:11,191

Marc: Ok, have yourself a great one.

 

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01:10:11,605 --> 01:10:13,210

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