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Alex Wolff: We brought up my

dad on stage and he was sick for

 

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a long time and now he's well.

 

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So to bring him up on the stage and

have him play with us 'cause he's a jazz

 

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pianist, was an indescribable experience.

 

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Announcer: Welcome to Story Craft.

 

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Now here's your host, Marc Preston.

 

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go back

again, another episode of Story and Craft.

 

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So glad to have you back.

 

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Uh, if this is your very first

episode, my name is Marc.

 

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Preston, glad to have you.

 

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Uh, today we are sitting down with

a very talented actor, Alex Wolff.

 

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New film out right now with Chloe

Sevigny, it is called Magic Farm.

 

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Now.

 

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Alex has been in just

a ton of great stuff.

 

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Uh, a quiet place, day

one, uh, Oppenheimer.

 

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Uh, Zach Bras film, a good

person, also hereditary, uh, very

 

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talented guy, also a musician.

 

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In fact, he's in a band with his

brother, Nat Wolff, who is also an actor.

 

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Uh, very talented guy all around, uh,

really enjoyed sitting down with him

 

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and I think you'll enjoy it as well.

 

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Always good to have you here.

 

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Alright, let's jump right into it today.

 

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It's Alex Wolff Day right

here on Story and Craft.

 

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So where are you joining me from today?

 

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And I

 

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Alex Wolff: am at my parents' house

with a good wifi New York City

 

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in the, uh, in the West Village.

 

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Alright, well, so you did,

you grew up as a New York kid.

 

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That's right.

 

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I grew up as a New York kid.

 

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It was, it was all New York all the time.

 

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Marc Preston: Now my son, I told

him last night, my son's uh, 20

 

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and I said, oh yeah, I'm gonna

be, uh, speaking with Alex Wolff.

 

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And he said, have you

ever seen a hereditary?

 

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I said, no, I actually haven't.

 

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He's like, you need to go watch it.

 

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It's a good movie.

 

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And he didn't tell me anything about it.

 

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He knows that the horror genre isn't

really something I typically gravitate to.

 

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Uh, sometimes I do.

 

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I still got PTSD from Poltergeist

from when I was a kid.

 

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It's a whole thing, Uhhuh.

 

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So I went and I, uh, I, I watched it.

 

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That was a ride.

 

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I, he didn't tell me anything about it.

 

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I, he intentionally walked me in.

 

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It's like, oh yeah,

it's just a great movie.

 

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There's some stuff.

 

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It's kind of a little scary trick.

 

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Alex Wolff: You up?

 

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Oh yeah.

 

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Basically.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Marc Preston: But no, he was,

he was like, yeah, it could

 

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be a little scary, you know?

 

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But, uh, he was telling

me he was a great movie.

 

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He watched it with his

girlfriend and they love it.

 

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So, uh, but yeah, it was great.

 

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You know, and I tell you, one of the

things I loved about it, you know, you

 

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didn't have a ton of dialogue, you know,

you comparatively speaking to the other

 

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characters, but a lot of it was just.

 

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The camera on you and reactions and stuff.

 

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That's kind of what kind of

brought up that intensity because

 

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you're like, what is he thinking?

 

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What's going on?

 

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You know?

 

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It's, you know, I always admire folks

that can act very well, even emotionally

 

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without a lot of dialogue, you know?

 

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And I thought that was just

a, it was a great ride.

 

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It was unexpected.

 

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I like an occasional

horror every now and then.

 

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Wow.

 

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There weren't really a lot

of scary, scary things in it.

 

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It was really a cranial

kind of a thing, you know?

 

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Right.

 

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But anyway, but yeah, I

watched that last night.

 

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The, uh, new film you have coming out.

 

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Okay.

 

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What's the, what's the premise of that?

 

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Alex Wolff: Well, it's a, it's a

satire, uh, about a, a group of

 

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Americans who go to Argentina to

make a documentary and they work.

 

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They, they're, they work for a

company kind of ala vice news.

 

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Um, and when they get there.

 

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They realized that I have brought

them to the wrong country.

 

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1. And, uh, funny chaos ensues.

 

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Marc Preston: Did y'all

shoot this in Argentina?

 

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Alex Wolff: Yep.

 

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Yeah, we did.

 

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Marc Preston: Awesome.

 

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I, that's one I've always wanted

to go to Argentina and Chile.

 

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You know, I like, um, from what

I understand down in Argentina,

 

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they like beef quite a bit, you

know, so everything's, yeah.

 

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It's

 

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Alex Wolff: funny 'cause I'm a,

I'm a veg or I, I, I. We will eat

 

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fish once in a while, but I'm, I'm

basically a, a, uh, a vegetarian.

 

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And so it was funny when I was there,

I was like, holy hell, I can barely

 

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eat anything that, and wine, you know?

 

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So I've always wanted to do a little,

um, well, that I have no problem with.

 

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Well, very good wine and beer

was, was, uh, perfection.

 

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You just learned cervesa

there and you survive.

 

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All right.

 

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Marc Preston: Um, so where do

you, where do you call home?

 

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Uh, when are, are you, do you live

in New York also or do you, uh,

 

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are you in LA most of the time?

 

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Mostly in, in New York.

 

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Most of the time I spend a lot of time

in la Is there a tribe of like, you

 

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know, sibling actors out there, they

all get together for annual meetings

 

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and talk about what it's like to work

together or not wanna work together?

 

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No, no.

 

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It's really interesting 'cause you

know, you doing the music thing, you

 

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know, it seems like most siblings,

at least my kids, uh, my three, I,

 

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I can't imagine going, Hey, let's

go spend time on tour together.

 

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Have you always been, uh.

 

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Close.

 

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Have you always been, you know,

familially as well as like creatively?

 

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Have you always been kinda like, you

know, grooving on music and acting,

 

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or is this just something that kind

of came later in life for y'all?

 

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Alex Wolff: Uh, yeah, we've been doing it

since we were, uh, we were kids, so we,

 

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um, you know, have been in a band together

since we were little boys and have been

 

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best friends since we were little boys.

 

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And, you know, he is probably the,

uh, first friend I ever made and.

 

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So, you know, he knows me

better than anybody else.

 

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But yeah, he's, uh, we're

actually best friends.

 

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You know, it's not just an

obligatory relationship.

 

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I think we, we really choose

to be in a band together.

 

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We choose to

 

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Marc Preston: hang out.

 

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We choose to do things.

 

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Is it just the two of y'all or do

y'all have like any other brothers

 

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and sisters floating around?

 

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Just the two of us that we

know of, both of y'all are in

 

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projects that I really enjoy.

 

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Like just the other day I saw, was it,

uh, paper towns, I think is what it was.

 

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It's interesting the choices y'all make.

 

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I've seen him more kind of young

adult stuff, kind of, and then, you

 

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know, the roles you choose are really,

uh, interesting like, uh, uh, old,

 

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which was just, I'm, I'm curious.

 

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I've never spoken to somebody who's

been in an M Knight Shaalan movie,

 

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but when you get an a, a script

from him, you see the whole film.

 

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It's like, okay, this is

what this thing's about.

 

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Or is he kind of protective of it

and just kinda like, here's your

 

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part of the sides and is there,

is it even a secret to the cast?

 

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You know?

 

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'cause there's always in an M

Knight Shaalan movie, there's always

 

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like a Oh, didn't see that coming.

 

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How did that film come together?

 

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I was just kind of curious

because I saw it not too long ago.

 

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Alex Wolff: I just auditioned for it.

 

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Um, and, and was really lucky

enough to get the part and I. Adored

 

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him as a director and as a guy.

 

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You know, he's, um, unbelievably precise

and, uh, you know, exhaustive in his,

 

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uh, the way he pursues perfection, you

know, with his, with his, uh, shots and,

 

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and, and the, the stories he creates.

 

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But, um, he's also very collaborative

and warm and, uh, kind of.

 

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You know, it did feel like I was working

with a, uh, a classic director sim,

 

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similar to working with Amalia who

directed magic for, you know, you feel.

 

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You just get lucky.

 

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You work with certain people who, it

feels like their vision of the film

 

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is far beyond your comprehension.

 

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Marc Preston: When you are coming up where

you're like, Hey, okay, you said like you

 

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had the band when you were a little guy.

 

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Were you like, music's gonna be my thing?

 

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Or were you like, okay, but I

also wanna do acting, or I really

 

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want acting to do my thing.

 

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Where was the trajectory

when you were younger?

 

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Or was there one, or are you

just putting yourself all in?

 

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Just whatever happens,

happens kind of a thing.

 

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Alex Wolff: Putting myself all

in, whatever happens, happens.

 

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That's the, that's the thing.

 

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I mean, it's not just about what works.

 

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I mean, I. You know, my brother and I were

lucky enough to, uh, to tour with Billy,

 

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uh, Eilish last year and, and I've been

doing music since we, uh, having kids.

 

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I mean, it was all, it, it, there's

been many dreams like working with

 

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Christopher Nolan or somebody,

and that's, I got to do that.

 

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And, uh, you know, playing at Madison

Square Garden was always a dream.

 

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I got to do three nights there past year.

 

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You know, it's, it's been, um, you, you.

 

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If you pursue the work of something,

it doesn't really matter the results.

 

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You know, it's really important that

you, uh, you know, if you want to do

 

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something, you do it a hundred percent.

 

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You don't just say, well, I'll probably

be, play it safe and hedge my bets.

 

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You know, like it's, it's my life.

 

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Mm-hmm.

 

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So as in, not that that the

art my is my life, but, but you

 

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know, why would I try and limit.

 

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Myself to what I think I

could be more successful at.

 

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Because you can be successful at something

for two seconds and then something else

 

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comes along and, um, you know, it's

just been a, a rollercoaster and you're

 

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famous one second, and then you're not.

 

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And then you're in a movie and

then you're not, and then you're

 

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on tour and then you're not.

 

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And you know, it doesn't matter.

 

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But really, I just wanted to be a,

uh, I wanted to, uh, be an acrobat.

 

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That was my main goal.

 

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Uh, but then this, this stuff sidetracked

me, but I'm gonna get back to acrobatics.

 

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Or playing in the NFL pretty soon.

 

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Marc Preston: When you were young, were

you, what was grabbing your attention

 

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musically or, uh, films you would watch?

 

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You know, what was it that was

like, that spark that like, I wanna

 

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do that thing that turns me on?

 

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Alex Wolff: It was The Beatles.

 

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I mean, that's, that's the

really, the initial thing.

 

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Um, it was watching help and hard

day's night and being an absolute,

 

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you know, uh, Beatles, uh, disciple.

 

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I mean, I was completely.

 

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I still am, you know, just I, I just

worship everything about the Beatles.

 

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And so that was the first thing.

 

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And then as far as in movies,

their movies, but also then.

 

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Uh, films like Stand By Me, uh, and

films like, uh, I saw a taxi driver at a

 

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young age that had a strong impact on me.

 

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I mean, were your, were your folks

 

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Marc Preston: at all influential as

far as, uh, exposing you to stuff or

 

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were you kind of on your own journey?

 

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Alex Wolff: Yeah, yeah,

they definitely were.

 

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I mean, you can't help it,

you can't help that, that.

 

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But, um, I also like to think that

we kind of found our own taste,

 

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but my dad's a jazz musician.

 

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My mom's a, an an actor

and a director as well.

 

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So I think that I, I, I

couldn't help but, but being be

 

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informed by what they liked, I.

 

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But it was also fun to figure

out what, uh, what I liked

 

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Marc Preston: when you

were younger, even now.

 

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I mean, or were they giving you cautionary

tales or like, Hey, I don't know, you

 

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know, they know if your mother, you

know, being an actor, uh, she knows

 

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the pitfalls and stuff like that.

 

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Were they, were they encouraging it

or were they just like, ah, well,

 

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you know, if you get into it, great.

 

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If not, that's wonderful too.

 

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What was their take on?

 

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I think they

 

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Alex Wolff: were discouraging

of it, honestly, initially.

 

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Um, and then they sort of embraced

it, but I think they were scared.

 

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They were, they were sort of scared,

but we were, we were pretty hardheaded

 

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about it and, and pretty stubborn.

 

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Marc Preston: You know, I've not seen

a good person, uh, that's on my list.

 

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'cause I don't know.

 

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I, I dig Zach Bra.

 

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You know, one, one of the things with him,

I know he, uh, like with, oh God, the name

 

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of the movie's escaping me, but I know

his soundtrack for him is like, important.

 

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God, what?

 

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Natalie Portman, I'm drawing a

blank on the film He did, but,

 

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um, foreign state, I. Yeah.

 

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Garden State, which i, I love.

 

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Uh, did y'all kind of

groove on music at all?

 

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Are there, is there any, like the

people you work with, do you ever just

 

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kind of sit down, just talk music,

you kind of find that tribe of people

 

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and or jam with 'em or, you know?

 

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Alex Wolff: Sure.

 

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Yeah.

 

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I mean, I, I, um, I certainly.

 

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Loved garden State growing up and

loved the music in that, uh, you know,

 

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Chloe was, was someone I bonded over

Chloe Sevigny, you know, she was someone

 

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that I bonded about music over and,

and, uh, and Billy Eilish who we, we

 

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toured with, we bonded over music.

 

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I think that it's a great,

it's a great way to bond the

 

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people that you're working with.

 

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It's, it's a, it's an important

way of sort of determining where.

 

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People's tastes are at

 

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Marc Preston: When you're creating

something, is it a, is it like a riff?

 

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Is it like a beat?

 

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Is it something that grabs you or

is it start with a lyric, you know,

 

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when you're, when you're creating a

song, does it sometimes, is it all of

 

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Alex Wolff: the above?

 

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In my experience, you

know, it's sort of, uh, uh.

 

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I, uh, I, I, I played Leonard Cohen in

this, um, miniseries that I just did.

 

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And, and, you know, I've

been a fan my whole life.

 

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And one of his quotes is, if I

knew where the great songs came

 

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from, I'd go there more often.

 

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Uh, or he may have said good songs.

 

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Knowing him and his, uh, humility

probably said good songs.

 

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But I would say for his songs, if

you knew her, the great songs, you

 

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know, you'd go there more often.

 

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That's how I feel.

 

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I don't know, sometimes

you try with a lyric and.

 

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It doesn't work.

 

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And then you try another lyric

and that starts your whole song.

 

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Or you start with some kind of

riff and it's not a science,

 

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you know, it's very abstract.

 

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And if I. Understood it more.

 

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It would probably make it easier,

but it's, it's, uh, I don't, I

 

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don't understand it at all really.

 

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Marc Preston: When you're on

tour, uh, of course you said

 

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you were out with Billy Eilish.

 

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Where was your favorite place to play?

 

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I like one or two of your favorite venues.

 

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Madison Square Garden,

 

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Alex Wolff: Madison Tour Garden

or the Forum where, you know,

 

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and Madison Square Garden.

 

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That's, I've been waiting to play their,

you know, that's what everybody dreams of.

 

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You close your eyes and picture venue.

 

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It's, it's always mad at square

guard and there's nothing that.

 

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We'll ever be able to top that.

 

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Yeah.

 

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When you walked out on stage, was it just,

 

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Marc Preston: I'm assuming you

were just kind of taking it

 

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Alex Wolff: out.

 

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That was pure joy.

 

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That one was pure joy.

 

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Yeah.

 

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That one was just full elation.

 

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I just have never felt

anything like that before.

 

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Um, and then the next night was a lot

of, uh, the next night was a lot of fear.

 

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Um, I think because the first night

was like a. Blur of excitement.

 

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And then the second night was

like more of the reality hit.

 

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And then the third night we brought up

my dad on stage and you know, he, he

 

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was sick for a long time and, and now

he's well, so to, to bring him up on

 

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the stage and have him play with us.

 

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'cause he's a jazz

pianist, was kind of a, uh,

 

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an indescribable.

 

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Marc Preston: Experience.

 

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I can't even imagine what that would

be like to, you know, it emotional, but

 

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he's doing, he's doing okay now, right?

 

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Alex Wolff: Yeah, he's, he's, yeah.

 

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He, he was, he was actually part of

an experimental trial, um, where he

 

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had this disease called histiocytic

sarcoma, and he, they tried an

 

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experiment of this doctor, Dr.

 

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Gonder, he is incredible.

 

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He tried an experimental drug on him and.

 

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Uh, and it's, and he cured him.

 

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And I think now they use that drug

that they were experimenting with my

 

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dad as he was kind of the Guinea pig.

 

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And now they use it to cure this type

of cancer and it's extremely effective.

 

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So, very good to hear.

 

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Marc Preston: Yeah.

 

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Especially to get him up on stage.

 

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There's gotta be a, like a big

release of emotion, you know,

 

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being out there like he's Yeah.

 

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And the

 

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Alex Wolff: song we were playing was

actually a song we wrote about his, uh.

 

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His illness.

 

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So, you know, it was just

all a very impactful moment.

 

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Marc Preston: Well, coming up, who

is he exposing you to, jazz wise,

 

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that that had an impact on you?

 

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Alex Wolff: Well, you know, bill Evans

was hugely inspirational to, it still is.

 

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Bill Evans is huge.

 

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Uh, Wayne Shorter.

 

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Um, Milton Osano obviously

kind of blew, blew.

 

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Miles Davis was, was huge for us.

 

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Um, Herbie Hancock was, was impactful.

 

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Hi his band.

 

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He and Impure thought.

 

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Um, people like Mike Clark

and Victor Jones drummers

 

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were very influential to me.

 

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'cause I, I started as a drummer.

 

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Marc Preston: Is that what you're,

are you, uh, what instrument are you?

 

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Alex Wolff: Yeah, I play, I

play drums, piano, guitar.

 

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We, we play all the instruments

on, on all our music.

 

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We, we, uh, do it all, which we've

done for, you know, like 15 years now

 

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that we just play all the instruments.

 

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'cause I think we kinda

like how it sounds.

 

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It sounds not always perfect,

but it always sounds like us.

 

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Um.

 

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So I like that.

 

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But yeah, I, I grew up with those,

those legends, um, in my ear and I think

 

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it's definitely informed songwriting.

 

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You know, like sometimes I, weather report

will find its way into the music or, um,

 

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certain chords will, will sound like a.

 

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Some of these jazz guys that I

never thought would ever inform

 

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our sort of pop music, but

 

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Marc Preston: so this is just all

hanging out in your subconscious and just

 

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finds its way to kind of percolate up.

 

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Yeah, and, and

 

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Alex Wolff: maybe as I get older, a

little more in the conscious realm, but

 

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yeah, it is kind of in the subconscious.

 

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Even when I think we were little, the,

the chords are very strange and very.

 

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Um, interesting and different.

 

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I didn't expect to talk about

the cancer and the jazz.

 

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That's really funny and

really interesting and cool.

 

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My dad's gonna be very pleased

that I got to talk about

 

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Milton Nascimento and chords.

 

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You know, this is a little,

 

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Marc Preston: uh, a little

bit of love for your dad.

 

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I'm delighted to do that.

 

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But I do something called seven questions.

 

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It's just a little bit of fun.

 

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We do with everybody.

 

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Cool.

 

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Um, just real quick,

we'll do a rapid fire.

 

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Great.

 

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Love it.

 

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I

 

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Alex Wolff: love that.

 

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Marc Preston: Favorite.

 

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Comfort food,

 

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Alex Wolff: what would that be for you?

 

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Ooh.

 

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Oh man.

 

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That's a good, uh, tuna salad sandwich.

 

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Uh, wait, wait.

 

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Can I change that?

 

401

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Absolutely.

 

402

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Uh, matza ball soup.

 

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Marc Preston: That's my jam.

 

404

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Uh, matza ball soup is

the one thing you know.

 

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Okay.

 

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Yeah.

 

407

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Matza ball soup.

 

408

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Well, uh, if you ever need

a recipe, let me know.

 

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Uh, next question real quick.

 

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Yeah, send it to me.

 

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If you were to sit down with three

people talk story over coffee

 

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for a few hours, who would those

three people be living or not?

 

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Alex Wolff: Paul, John, and George Next.

 

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Marc Preston: Very good, very good.

 

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Uh, when you were a little guy,

who was your celebrity crush,

 

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your very first celebrity crush.

 

417

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Ooh, good question.

 

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Alex Wolff: Um, Katherine

Zeta Jones and Zoro, Heather.

 

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Graham and Bowfinger as well.

 

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Marc Preston: Bo this is the very

first Bowfinger, uh, reference ever.

 

421

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Very good.

 

422

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I like that.

 

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Uh, now if you're gonna be sitting

on an island full year, exotic

 

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island, somewhere, you wanna be no

streaming though, you gotta bring

 

425

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a DVD if you wanna watch a movie

over and over again for that year.

 

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CD.

 

427

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What would that CD be?

 

428

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To listen to music over and

over the, the movie also on DVD.

 

429

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What would those two things be for you

for a full year on that exotic island?

 

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Alex Wolff: Uh, I'd say maybe the

White album, 'cause it's the longest

 

431

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Beatles album, so I could, you know,

have the most songs to listen to.

 

432

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And then maybe I, I'm tied between.

 

433

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Bringing Fannie and Alexander the

Bergman movie or eight and a half.

 

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My reasoning being that they're both

long movies so I can have a lot of

 

435

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time to, uh, really digest them.

 

436

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So maybe Fannie and Alexander

and eight and a half.

 

437

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Marc Preston: Awesome.

 

438

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Um, yeah, I was, when I say DVD, it's

like, who uses those anymore, but actually

 

439

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things like people are going back to dvd.

 

440

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I do.

 

441

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I, I, I do.

 

442

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I love 'em.

 

443

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I love the features.

 

444

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Um, for a perfect day for you, what are a

couple things or a few things that need to

 

445

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happen to make that a perfect day for you?

 

446

00:18:38,745 --> 00:18:40,995

The component parts of

a, just a rockstar day.

 

447

00:18:41,415 --> 00:18:43,275

Alex Wolff: You just gotta do

an interview with Marc Preston.

 

448

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Period.

 

449

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That's my answer.

 

450

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You're a sweet talker.

 

451

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I like that.

 

452

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Marc Preston: Okay.

 

453

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Uh, if you weren't doing this

music acting, uh, next question,

 

454

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what would the vocation be for

you if you weren't doing this?

 

455

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What would be the sum it bring you joy

besides, uh, doing the creative thing?

 

456

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Alex Wolff: See, I wouldn't play, I

wouldn't, you know, give anybody else joy.

 

457

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But I would be, uh, in the NBA,

which would give me joy, but not

 

458

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give them joy because I wouldn't

be great, but I'd be in the NBA.

 

459

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Marc Preston: Very good.

 

460

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Now, last question.

 

461

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You got that DeLorean, you hop

in it, go chat with yourself.

 

462

00:19:13,185 --> 00:19:16,035

At 16 years old, you got a nugget

of wisdom to drop, to make that

 

463

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moment of your life a little bit

better, or maybe put you on a

 

464

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little bit different trajectory.

 

465

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What's a piece of advice you

have sick for a 16-year-old Alex?

 

466

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Alex Wolff: Um, gimme a second.

 

467

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I want to give you a succinct answer.

 

468

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I would say, Hey, find a way

to make sure that Donald Trump

 

469

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doesn't become president.

 

470

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You and I have the same dream.

 

471

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That's,

 

472

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Marc Preston: uh, that's,

that's what I would tell myself.

 

473

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Well to Alex, Matt, I, I really do

appreciate sitting down with you.

 

474

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I do love your work, both

you and your brother.

 

475

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Y'all both have projects that are

always, uh, always hit a home run, but,

 

476

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uh, best of luck to you, my friend.

 

477

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Hopefully one of these days you'll be

down in, uh, on tour in Texas and I'll

 

478

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pop over and I'll see some of your great

work and uh, with you and your brother.

 

479

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Hell

 

480

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Alex Wolff: yeah.

 

481

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That would be

 

482

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Marc Preston: awesome.

 

483

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Thanks

 

484

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Alex Wolff: Marc.

 

485

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Marc Preston: I really appreciate it.

 

486

00:20:01,770 --> 00:20:02,100

Alright.

 

487

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There you go.

 

488

00:20:02,610 --> 00:20:03,780

Alex Wolff.

 

489

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Uh, enjoy the conversation.

 

490

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Talented guy.

 

491

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Just, uh, really enjoy his work.

 

492

00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:09,930

Uh, the new film again, magic.

 

493

00:20:09,950 --> 00:20:10,610

Farm.

 

494

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It is in theaters.

 

495

00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,820

Uh, it's with Chloe Sevigny also, you can

check him out with his, uh, brother Nat.

 

496

00:20:16,850 --> 00:20:17,930

Uh, great music.

 

497

00:20:17,930 --> 00:20:20,720

In fact, I was just checking

them out on Spotify.

 

498

00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,880

In fact, if you go to story and craft

pod.com and you click on uh, Alex's

 

499

00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,780

info, I got the link right there

so you can check out his socials.

 

500

00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:32,480

Go to Spotify, listen to, uh,

he and his brother's music.

 

501

00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,014

Also, not only do we have story in craft

pod.com, everything you wanna know about

 

502

00:20:37,014 --> 00:20:38,995

the show, of course it's all right there.

 

503

00:20:39,235 --> 00:20:42,564

Uh, but on your podcast app, if

you would make sure to follow the

 

504

00:20:42,564 --> 00:20:45,865

show, that way you get notified

every time I have a new episode.

 

505

00:20:46,044 --> 00:20:49,495

Also, uh, if you would just go ahead

and like the show, like the, uh,

 

506

00:20:49,495 --> 00:20:53,125

episode, that way people can discover

my mischief a little bit easier.

 

507

00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:54,540

Which I always appreciate.

 

508

00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:55,920

Okay, so I'm gonna get on out of here.

 

509

00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,260

Another great episode coming up soon.

 

510

00:20:58,530 --> 00:21:02,850

Uh, and as I always say, thank you so

much for making what I got going on here,

 

511

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part of whatever you've got going on.

 

512

00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,600

Alright, so I'm gonna get on out of here.

 

513

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Uh, got the pooch sitting here looking

at me going, it's time to go outside

 

514

00:21:09,930 --> 00:21:12,480

and enjoy a, uh, sunny day and uh, go.

 

515

00:21:12,510 --> 00:21:13,260

Have a great weekend.

 

516

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Go have a great rest of your day, whatever

you got going on, and we will see you

 

517

00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:18,930

next time right here on Story and Craft.

 

518

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Announcer: That's it.

 

519

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For this episode of Story and Craft, join

Marc next week for more conversation.

 

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Right here on Story and Craft

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521

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522

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523

00:21:35,535 --> 00:21:40,575

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