Lucy DeVito | The Family Business

Because I grew up with him as the penguin.

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And, you know, Louis de Palma.

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I know him as this lovable,

wonderful mench of a guy, but

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like, his characters can be evil.

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Welcome to Story Craft.

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Now, here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Okay, here we go.

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Another episode of Story Craft.

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Thank you for stopping by.

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If this is your first episode, I want

to welcome you and shake your hand.

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Virtually shaking your hand.

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Glad to have you here.

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Uh, today we are chatting

with Lucy DeVito.

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She's an actor, been in

film and TV for a long time.

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A new movie she has out called

The Secret Art of Human Flight.

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It is available right now.

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Video on demand, uh, VOD.

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Uh, you can check that out.

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Of course, her parents are Danny

DeVito and Rhea Perlman, and it

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was cool to chat with her What it

was like growing up with parents

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who were successful in film and TV.

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It was a great conversation and I'm

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Today is Lucy DeVito day

right here on story and craft.

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How are you doing this morning?

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Yeah, I'm good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I said, I just I had

a baby, um, a month ago.

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And so I've been up for a little

while and, um, everything is good.

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You said you've been up, but,

uh, you know, at one month old,

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you're getting up constantly.

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Yes, exactly.

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The one thing I remember about back

when I was, uh, my first was born

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and my first one is 21 years old now.

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So it's a little, it's been a

minute, but I remember I, I,

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I was like, I work for myself.

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I have my own recording studio.

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I can just go.

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I can stay up all night, so I just

realized that the getting up and

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going back to sleep and I did all the

night feedings except for, I think,

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like three or four and I was like,

I'm just gonna stay up all night.

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So it's me and the dog and the baby

always for all three of my kids.

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So it was a bonding experience.

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I will say that.

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In fact, I, uh.

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I had a golden retriever at the

time and my baby, uh, she was, I

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guess, a couple of three months old.

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She just wanted to go and kind of lay out.

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He would curl up in a little ball and

she'd go lay on him and he just kind

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of like cuddler, you know, so I could

get up and go get a bottle, come back.

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And I've got, I've got a, he's,

he's almost five months old.

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It doesn't compare.

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I know as a golden retriever, he's

in his toddler phase right now.

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We had a golden retriever growing up too.

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Really?

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They were the best.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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His name was Ocean.

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He loved the water, obviously,

but he was, he was like, I get,

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I understand why he would like

take care that your older golden

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retriever would take care of the baby.

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Cause like our ocean would

like, just watch us as kids.

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And, um, whenever we were at the beach,

And we would go in the water and he

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would go in with us to like babysit us.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So do you have a, as a

little boy or a little girl?

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Yeah, boy.

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Um, his name's Carmine.

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So how do you have

things kind of broken up?

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Are you, are you, uh, waking up multiple

times throughout the night or are you?

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Yeah.

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And we are, we are, but we're

like multitasking, you know?

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And, um, yeah, right now he's with,

um, his dad, um, in the living room.

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So, you know, we're taking turns

and, um, sort of like getting

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into a routine, which is good.

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And we have a little help.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A month ago.

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That's that month has probably

gone by just like that.

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So fast.

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I can't believe it.

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Yeah.

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It's been, it's, it's been like in a,

I'm in a fugue state, but a joyful one,

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you know, it's really, really amazing.

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Now, did you grow up West Coast or did

you grow up in, uh, I, every time I think

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of your dad, I always think Jersey, you

know, so where, where did you grow up?

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Yeah, we, I grew up in Los Angeles.

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Yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles, but

we're, um, I grew up also coming

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to the East Coast quite often.

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Like, um, you know, if my parents

were working there or, um, my, you

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know, I mean, my dad's whole side

of the family was, is in Jersey.

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So like we would spend summers

there and Christmas there, you know.

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Um, and I always felt very

connected to the East coast.

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I always loved New York.

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And then, um, so I, but I

grew up like proper in LA.

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So both of your folks, are

they both East coasters?

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Yeah.

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My dad's from, uh, my dad's from

Jersey and my mom's from, uh, Brooklyn.

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You're definitely,

definitely East coaster.

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Yeah, I know.

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And, uh, Every, yeah, I feel like very,

like that's ingrained in that, in that

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culture back, you know, the East coast

and then I, I lived in New York and

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I still have a, I go back and forth.

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I was there, um, for like, you

know, five months last year.

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You know, I, um, I still love it.

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So I'm, uh.

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Trying to keep it bi coastal as

much as I can and we'll see how that

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goes with having a child, but Your

folks are they living in la now?

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Uh, do they live full time there still?

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Yeah So they must be over the

moon having the new baby around.

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Oh, yeah, they're so thrilled and

um Yeah, my sister's around and

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she has a baby who's one and a

half and, um, my brother's nearby.

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And, um, so the, the family's like

in very close proximity, everyone's

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able to see each other a lot.

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And that's been so helpful too.

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And just like, a great comfort.

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Um, so we'll be able to just like

have our, you know, we spend a lot

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of time together as a family anyway.

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So it'll, but you have a brother and

a sister or do you have more siblings?

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No, that's it.

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Brother brother and sister.

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Yeah.

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Now growing up in LA, did you have

the thing where of course your

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folks are working in the business?

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Is that kind of your ecosystem, you

know, socially, was it other, you

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know, other kids whose folks are

working in the, you know, in the

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entertainment industry or where you

kind of had your own thing going on?

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No, somewhat, you know, I mean

like, of course we're, you're, my

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parents are both in the business.

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So like, uh, we were friendly

with a lot of other actors and

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people in the industry, of course.

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But like, um, you know, I went to, um,

school, private school in the Valley

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and, um, Um, you know, people, different

walks of life, but, you know, coming

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from Los Angeles, like a lot of people

are connected to the, the industry here.

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So, but, um, but yeah, no, I

mean, uh, we got, I got a taste

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of like a lot of different, you

know, walks of life and stuff.

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So, um, but we were like, you know,

I grew up like going to sets and

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you know being around the film and

tv industry pretty well Growing up.

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Was that something that was kind of

like you got to do this again Was

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it something that you just kind of

got bored with or was it something

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that was turning you on like?

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Oh, wait a minute.

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This is no, I I don't I always enjoyed it.

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I always like I mean, maybe it's

one of the reasons why I'm like

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still, I want, you know, I'm

pursuing the career of an actor is

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I just love, I love being on sets.

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I love, um, I always loved going,

visiting my parents and being around, um,

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you know, the people making the stuff,

um, It's just like a fun atmosphere.

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And I always found it like

really, really interesting.

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Like, uh, my, my grew up, my father ran

car dealerships, you know, so I could

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not stand around car dealerships, you

know, a little different than that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think, I think what you're doing,

uh, growing up was probably a lot

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more fun, but what were you up to when

you're, you're coming up in school

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was, um, where the arts theater was

that on the agenda where you were

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a sporty kid, you know, you're, you

know, what were you up to in school?

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I, uh, I definitely was not sporty.

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Um, I, um, was, uh, but I was

always like, yeah, I was always

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in theater in high school.

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And then, and I did like, you know,

extracurricular theater programs.

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And then I, and then I went to college

and I did theater there and then

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went to New York and did theater.

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So I've kind of like, um, always been.

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Like since high school, always

been, um, really into it.

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And then, and then the arts of in other

ways, I like, I love to draw and paint

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and stuff, and I'm not really musically

inclined, but, um, I appreciate it.

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Now, is your husband, is he, is he an

industry kind of guy or is he a civilian?

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No, no, he's not.

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He's civilian.

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Yeah, lawyer.

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Yeah.

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Oh, really?

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Okay.

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Very good.

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Very good.

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Yeah.

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As you're coming up, you, you said

you went to, uh, uh, you, you spent

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some time in New York after school,

but where'd you go to college?

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Did you go on, uh, no, I went

to Brown in Rhode Island.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Which was a really,

really cool experience.

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And, um, I loved it there.

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It was, um, you know, I really, I made

some great friends and the teachers were,

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you And just the, the atmosphere there

was like, so, so East Coast College.

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Um, it was.

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Um, it was beautiful.

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And, um, they had like a, like, I

could, I was able to take lots of

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different classes in the theater, um,

in the theater program without actually

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like, um, being a theater major.

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I was, I was like actually

an art history major.

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And, um, and you were able to also

like be in all the school, all the

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plays and you know, all of that stuff.

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So, um, And then, you know, after moving

to New York afterwards, so many people

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from college moved to New York and there's

a great, um, you know, community of people

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there in, in the city and lots of people

I'm still friends with and, and lots

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of people who, um, are in the business

who went, who I went to college with.

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Um, who are still doing,

still doing it question.

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I always have to ask if, if someone has

parents who are in the industry, was

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it something that was, obviously it was

always there, but was it encouraged?

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Was it, did anybody like try to

discourage you from doing this or

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give you lots of cautionary tales?

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Um, coming up, what was the, what

was the angle your folks took on it?

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Um, they were, um,

really supportive of it.

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Um, once like professionally, once I

went to college, so, um, they were,

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I mean, supportive of it, you know,

in school and stuff, but they didn't

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really want, they didn't want me to,

um, pursue acting as a, as a child,

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you know, in a professional sense.

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So, and I, I appreciate that looking back,

you know, that I was like, you know, I

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had this really kind of, I just went to

school and did my thing and didn't try to.

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Um, you know, work as a kid.

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Sometimes you have kids go become

phenomenal, just wonderful adult

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actors and other ones go a whole

different direction, you know, so I

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understand your parents hesitancy there.

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Yeah, certainly.

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Yeah.

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And my, you know, we're, um, the

thing is like my, I, I watched my

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parents go through all, even though

they're like very successful, they do

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have their ups and downs and stuff.

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So like, I wasn't, um, blind to the fact

that it's a difficult career and full of,

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you know, rejection and, you know, it's

a really like tough thing to break into.

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And, um, so like, I think that they were,

and they were very like, you know, Um,

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honest with me about all of those, you

know, pitfalls and stuff, but like at

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the same time, like very supportive, you

know, and we're like, um, we, you know,

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our, at this point we are peers, you

know, we work together and, um, support

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each other and, um, help each other out.

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So, um, they were, you know.

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They were like, spoke to me real talk,

you know, realistically, but, um,

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but, but at the same time, we're very

encouraging and are so encouraging still.

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And just, you know, we're

each other's biggest fans.

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So always supporting each other.

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Are your siblings, are they into the,

are they acting as well or have they

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kind of chosen a little bit different?

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No, they're not acting or, uh,

Gracie's, my sister sometimes acts.

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Um, but she's primarily an,

uh, visual artist, a painter.

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And, um, but my brother

is in the business.

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He's, um, a producer and

we actually work together.

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We run a company together with,

um, with my dad and, um, where

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we develop shows and, and.

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So, um, so we're, we're, I'm

working on, you know, the, the

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producing side of things as well.

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Um, and with him, with family.

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So, and that's been amazing.

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And, uh, you know, Way to,

way to work with our, our

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family and keep it very close.

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Well, that is very cool

that you're able to do that.

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Uh, and, and cause some families when they

work together, don't always, uh, want to

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be around each other that much, you know,

that can be kind of a cool bonding thing.

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Oh, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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When you were coming up, what

things were you watching?

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What was it, uh, as far

as film or TV that was.

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I don't want to say inspiring you,

but what was your thing coming up?

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Did you have a lot of

similarities as far as like kind

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of what your folks were up to?

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Or are you kind of going your own way?

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No, I mean, I was like, they

showed me like all of, you know,

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their favorite movies and stuff.

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Like, you know, I, Watch a lot of like,

you know, the Frank Capra's and, you know,

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the, um, like the classics and stuff.

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And, um, you know, my dad was

really into Fellini, you know?

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So like, I, there was a period of

time when I like became obsessed

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with Giulietta Messina and, you know.

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Nights of Cabiria was

like my favorite movie.

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Um, but then, you know, I was also like,

um, like, I guess it was WB at the time.

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WB.

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Um, I watched, you know, Buffy the vampire

slayer and party of five and then, you

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know, must see TV friends and Seinfeld

and all of that, you know, so, um, Like

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getting home to, you know, and by at my,

when I was that age, you know, we would,

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if we couldn't be home at the time that it

was shown and we would record it on VCR.

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Yeah.

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My kids unfortunately do, they just don't

know the struggle that was involved.

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Yeah.

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In A VCR and pro, you're the

last generation that knew how to

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program the VCR, you know, so.

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Yeah.

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And it, it was, you know, it was fun.

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Like, you know, we would.

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Watch things and talk about them the

next day at school, you know, so, um,

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That was always that was always fun.

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Um, but yeah, no, I I um I'm trying

to think, you know, I, I love like, I

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love like the, you know, I love like

Chinatown and, you know, movies of the

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70s, um, you know, obviously like The

Godfather and all of that, um, but I,

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uh, and then, and, and, you know, I

like a lot of like goofy 80s movies.

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Um, I'm the same way the other,

the other night I watched, uh,

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what did I watch the other night?

305

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It was a John Candy

movie, uh, summer rental.

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I don't know if you remember that.

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Oh yeah.

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Well, we, I really liked, um, great

at the great outdoors, the one with

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him, him and Dan Aykroyd in the woods

and the bear and everything that

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when we had on VHS, you know, that

like, um, what else did we have?

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We had princess bride

watched so many times.

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Um, the Goonies.

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Um, just, you know, all of

those, uh, like 16, 16 candles.

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I have all these videotapes and my

kids were looking at me like, why

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don't you get rid of all those?

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You know, it's like, no, I cannot.

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It's like, it's like some kind

of relic from a bygone era.

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We had so many and I wish,

I wish we had kept them.

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Even the DVDs we got rid of.

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And I'm like, Oh God,

it would be so great.

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Really?

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Yeah, nobody's got my DVDs from me.

323

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I'm those are definitely in

storage and a storage unit.

324

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No, I know.

325

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I, I, we are kicking ourselves now that

we, that we did that because now I, you

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try to look for a movie and you can't even

find it streaming sometimes or you know,

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you can't, like, I loved like browsing,

you know, seeing like what it is we had

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and you know, the, the special collection

that an individual has and then, but

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You know, nowadays you're browsing and

it's like what the algorithm gives you.

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Yeah, you know, the thing that sucks

about it is that you don't get all

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the features you do on a DVD, all the

outtakes, all the, uh, the commentary.

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I always thought that was cool, watching

a movie when you have somebody giving

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commentary of what it was like to

make it and all that kind of stuff.

334

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I thought that was such a cool

thing that, uh, I don't know,

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maybe it'll be like vinyl.

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It'll come back around, you know,

maybe my kids, when they get a

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little older, it'll be a thing.

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No, I think it will.

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I think it, I think that.

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Um, people are, um, are doing that more,

uh, and, uh, well, what was the path

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for you after you got out of school?

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Uh, when you left Brown, was

it, was, were you on the path?

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Like, I'm going to go do this thing.

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Or did you have some detours, uh,

doing other kinds of vocational.

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No, I, I sort of was one set mind.

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I went to, I, I spent one year in

LA, um, living at home after college

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and, um, and then, uh, and then moved

to New York and, um, immediately

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started doing theater there.

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Um, I, My first job was, um,

at the ensemble studio theater.

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It was, um, a play called Lucy actually.

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And, um, and I played the character Lucy.

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Um, and that was, it was my first,

like, you know, real off, it was off,

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off Broadway, you know, but like my

first like real professional job.

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And, um, That place, Ensemble Studio

Theater, became like a home for me

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and this creative source and social

network of other actors and writers

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and directors and, you know, this sort

of like hub of like just, you know,

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you know, young people, older people,

people, it had been around since the 60s.

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So there were like older members who

were like had, you know, so much wisdom.

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And then the young ones like

us who were like just hungry

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and trying to get things going.

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And, um, you know, it was a

really like wonderful, um,

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meeting of like these artists.

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And, um, and yeah, I just like

really respected everyone there.

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And we got to, you know, make,

put on plays, you know, there was

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a young writers group there that,

um, would constantly put on plays.

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Put up their work and you could,

you know, be a part of that.

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And, um, was this in New York?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Well, so that's kind of the place to be.

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If you're doing that, I think, uh, God,

years and years and years ago, I'd seen an

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interview and somebody said, New Yorkers,

where you go learn the craft and then you

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move to LA to actually apply it when it

comes to working on camera or whatever.

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But, um, yeah, yeah.

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But to me, it'd be so fun to be young,

to be in New York with a lot of,

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uh, fellow, uh, theater weirdo kids.

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It was the best.

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How many years were you out there for?

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Uh, I mean, I was there for

like on and off, like 12 years.

381

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Yeah.

382

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Yeah.

383

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Um, there were a few

like stints back in LA.

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Um, Like I got, I got a job out here,

you know, for a little bit and then, um,

385

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was here and then went back to New York.

386

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And, um, and then, um, yeah, it was, I,

I feel, I still, I feel like torn still,

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like I still love, love New York and

we'll, you know, take any opportunity

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to, to work there and, and also go just

visit and live there for, you know,

389

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stints of, yeah, you got a big extended

family out there, I'm assuming, don't you?

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Yeah.

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So were your folks calling you up going,

Hey, you need to go see your aunt.

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So and so or the, you know, did

they ever give you those calls?

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Like you got to go see the family.

394

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No, no, not really.

395

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They're great.

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But they, they, it was great.

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Like I, um, it was a great excuse for

them to come out, you know, to, and to.

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For all of us to spend more

time in the city or like, you

399

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know, Jersey or wherever it was.

400

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Now your, your dad's family, of

course, Italy, you know, uh, and then

401

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your mother's family, Jewish, where,

where's your, where's your mother,

402

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where are your mother's people from?

403

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They're from, um, Poland and Russia.

404

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Yeah, so, um, yeah, my grandpa came

over when he was like one from Poland.

405

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Oh, really?

406

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So your mother was first

generation born here.

407

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Okay.

408

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Yeah.

409

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My grandma, my grandma was born here.

410

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Um, but her, so my great grandma

came over, um, from Russia.

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Um, yeah.

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And they, they, her side of the family

all grew up in or lived in Coney Island.

413

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And, um, and then.

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Yeah, my grandpa, I'm not exactly

sure, but they ended up, like, I

415

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think meeting in Coney Island also.

416

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I'm not, I'm, I'm a little fuzzy on the

details of where they met and stuff,

417

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but, um, Her side of the family is, yeah,

uh, Jewish, Poland, Polish, Russian.

418

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So was, was theater a performance on

either side of your parents family?

419

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Were, was this already something

there or were your folks, the first

420

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ones out of the gate that decided,

Hey, we're going to go do this thing?

421

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They weren't, no, they were, um,

they were the first ones, you know?

422

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Um, my, my grandpa, he was,

um, well, he was, In the war.

423

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And he worked in a doll factory

afterwards and actually, but, uh, he

424

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had always wanted to, like, he always

loved, um, the business and everything

425

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he loved and, um, he became like a

staple on, um, like a, a regular on.

426

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At the guy at the bar at

Cheers, um, . Oh, really?

427

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Yeah, my mom got him and he would just,

he was an extra and then sometimes

428

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they would like start to give him lines

and stuff and, um, yeah, they ended up

429

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moving, my grandparents moved out here.

430

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Um, when, um, I think right

around when my parents.

431

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work.

432

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Did you have a fair amount of

time with your grandparents?

433

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Yeah, I did.

434

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Yeah, I was very lucky.

435

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Um, yeah, they, they passed away.

436

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Um, you know, about maybe 10 years

ago or a little less than that.

437

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Um, so they were there, but they

were there through my childhood.

438

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You know, they came to all the school

events, you know, they saw me in school

439

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plays and You know, we got to, you know,

celebrate holidays and all of that.

440

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So I was, I was really like, I'm envious.

441

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You have, you have both the Italian food

and a Jewish, uh, Eastern European food.

442

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Yeah, no, we knew we know how to eat lips.

443

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That's so I got, I got to know

like who's doing the cooking and

444

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the family mostly is your mother.

445

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Your dad, can they both cook?

446

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They both can cook.

447

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Yeah.

448

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They both can cook.

449

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Um, and they're both really good at it.

450

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Yeah.

451

00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:40,550

My dad, my dad really like, you know,

he's, he's really good at good at pasta.

452

00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,719

I'm really good at pasta.

453

00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:44,479

Now, when did you kind of

shift things into gear?

454

00:25:44,479 --> 00:25:46,689

You know, you're out of, you're, you're

in New York, you're doing your thing.

455

00:25:46,689 --> 00:25:48,309

You are having your stints in LA.

456

00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,060

Uh, but when did it kind of shift into

gear where you're really, you know, you

457

00:25:52,060 --> 00:25:56,469

could call yourself, I'm a working actor

about, yeah, I would say like around,

458

00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:04,750

um, my mid twenties, um, you know, I,

I, I'd, I'd, done some plays, I'd done

459

00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:11,779

regional theater, um, and then, um, you

know, little bit parts here and there.

460

00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:19,699

And then, um, I, I got a, um, I was

doing a show off Broadway and, um,

461

00:26:19,719 --> 00:26:25,310

worked with some really great people

and, um, and ended up getting a part

462

00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:35,025

on an, um, ABC family show, um, Melissa

and Joey and, um, yeah, so I did.

463

00:26:35,305 --> 00:26:40,745

Um, and that was like a great, great

first job, you know, it was not my first

464

00:26:40,745 --> 00:26:46,495

job, but it was the first like regular,

I was, I was there all the time and

465

00:26:46,495 --> 00:26:49,155

really got to like, um, be a part of it.

466

00:26:49,165 --> 00:26:50,685

I was like a big part of it.

467

00:26:50,785 --> 00:26:53,065

And, um, for a couple of years.

468

00:26:53,215 --> 00:26:55,095

Well, did you have any kind of preference?

469

00:26:55,145 --> 00:26:58,525

Uh, did you develop any preference

when it came to being on camera?

470

00:26:58,525 --> 00:27:03,530

It was like film or TV to, was there

any, um, Genre you liked the best?

471

00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:07,760

Well, not genre, but I mean, did you

like the process of shooting TV or

472

00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,360

film or did, what did you even have?

473

00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,639

No, I, I, I didn't at the time.

474

00:27:11,639 --> 00:27:17,569

I mean, I, I felt like, and I still

don't know which one I'm, if I like

475

00:27:17,619 --> 00:27:22,889

one or the other more, but, um,

I think they're all really fun.

476

00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:30,379

I, I most recently did, um, a

play, which is, was amazing.

477

00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,504

Um, And that process, you

know, is so different.

478

00:27:34,514 --> 00:27:39,155

That's like with all the rehearsal

and, you know, getting up and doing

479

00:27:39,155 --> 00:27:45,425

the show eight times a week, you

know, is, is a, is a really like, um,

480

00:27:45,614 --> 00:27:53,365

demanding and, but like, Exhilarating,

you know, way to perform, but I guess

481

00:27:53,365 --> 00:27:56,405

when you're doing something multiple

times throughout the week, you got

482

00:27:56,405 --> 00:27:57,625

to find a way to keep it fresh.

483

00:27:57,645 --> 00:28:00,445

I'm assuming, you know, because

you're doing this every day.

484

00:28:00,465 --> 00:28:05,175

Was that ever a challenge or did it ever

get to be like, you know, uh, not boring,

485

00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:10,984

but yeah, I mean, it depended on the, it

depends on the play and the people, but

486

00:28:10,984 --> 00:28:13,124

like for the most part, it's, um, yeah.

487

00:28:13,574 --> 00:28:15,995

Yeah, I mean, sometimes you wake

up in the morning, you're like,

488

00:28:16,044 --> 00:28:17,175

I don't want to do this again.

489

00:28:17,835 --> 00:28:22,415

But then, you know, I always, once

it's, and it's also like, I found

490

00:28:22,415 --> 00:28:26,675

sometimes you're like, the moment

before is like the moment where

491

00:28:26,675 --> 00:28:27,905

you're like, Oh, I don't know.

492

00:28:27,905 --> 00:28:31,185

And then once I'm out there,

I'm, I'm enjoying it, you know?

493

00:28:31,705 --> 00:28:37,825

Um, but yeah, I mean, and, uh,

but like schedule wise, you know,

494

00:28:37,825 --> 00:28:41,254

doing TV and film can be really.

495

00:28:42,074 --> 00:28:48,355

a lot, a lot, um, less demanding,

but, um, but, and also I love

496

00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,965

like the intimacy of, of film.

497

00:28:51,194 --> 00:28:58,144

And, um, you know, just like being,

you know, having the camera close

498

00:28:58,144 --> 00:29:04,584

up and, and, you know, not having to

project and, you know, having, you

499

00:29:04,584 --> 00:29:10,990

know, vulnerable intimate moments or

quiet moments and, um, You know, and,

500

00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,340

and lots of TVs like that at times too.

501

00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:17,320

Have you directed or do you

have any aspirations to direct?

502

00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:18,570

You said you produce, but.

503

00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:24,000

Yeah, I think maybe one day I think

that like the, if the right thing came.

504

00:29:24,490 --> 00:29:27,980

came along, I would definitely

be interested in that.

505

00:29:28,439 --> 00:29:34,150

Um, I haven't been like proactive

about seeking that out at the

506

00:29:34,150 --> 00:29:39,860

moment, but like, I think that,

um, there's, there's possibility.

507

00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:40,310

Yeah.

508

00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:44,760

In my future, I would, I would

like to, um, test out directing.

509

00:29:45,425 --> 00:29:45,705

Yeah.

510

00:29:45,755 --> 00:29:50,475

As far as your folks library of stuff,

they did, uh, what, what kind of

511

00:29:50,485 --> 00:29:53,185

sticks out in your mind is like that.

512

00:29:53,215 --> 00:29:55,285

I love that project or that thing.

513

00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:59,025

My mom and my dad did, you know,

or, or, cause I always wonder what

514

00:29:59,025 --> 00:30:01,085

it's like because you know, your

parents intimately they're your

515

00:30:01,085 --> 00:30:02,915

parents, you know, but you watch them.

516

00:30:03,455 --> 00:30:07,215

What project sticks out like, Oh,

this is, this is, I love this thing.

517

00:30:07,405 --> 00:30:10,655

I mean, I'll, I'll go to

the obvious one is Matilda.

518

00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,910

Um, cause they're, well,

they're both in it.

519

00:30:14,970 --> 00:30:23,360

And that was like, we read Roald Dahl

books together and, um, me and Gracie

520

00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:28,730

brought, we, we were the ones that

introduced my parents to Matilda.

521

00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:29,270

Really?

522

00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:30,080

Yeah.

523

00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,380

Watching your father play a not

nice guy, you know, is that, was

524

00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:35,860

that, what was that like for you?

525

00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:39,805

Were you like, Well, I mean, That wasn't,

that wasn't anything strange to me.

526

00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:46,185

I mean, cause I grew up with him as the

penguin and, you know, Louie De Palma.

527

00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:53,665

He's, uh, he, I know him

as this lovable, wonderful.

528

00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,070

Mench of a guy, but like his

characters can be, um, you know,

529

00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:01,740

grotesque or evil or whatever.

530

00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:04,920

And, but I, I like that, you know,

there's always like a sense of like,

531

00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:10,399

um, fun in, in the way that he, um,

portrays those, those characters.

532

00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:11,890

Villainous characters.

533

00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,260

Yeah.

534

00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:14,950

I think the first thing outside of, I

thought first thing I've ever watched

535

00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:16,880

your father was, it was gotta be taxi.

536

00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:19,990

Uh, but I was too young to really

watch it, but it was, it was one of

537

00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:23,360

those things that was on, I think

in reruns and quick question on the,

538

00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:25,820

uh, the secret art of human flight.

539

00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:26,680

That's the name of the film.

540

00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:27,000

Yeah.

541

00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:30,719

It's, uh, uh, how did this

project come, come your way?

542

00:31:31,030 --> 00:31:39,200

Yeah, um, well, I just kind of stumbled

into it, um, and I, uh, I just auditioned

543

00:31:39,210 --> 00:31:47,290

for the role, um, and, um, was lucky

enough to make a strong impression

544

00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:56,460

on the, the, the team, and, um, I

immediately really bonded with, um, H.

545

00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,700

P.

546

00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:01,380

Mendoza as the director and Grant

Rosenmeier who's the producer and star

547

00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:06,850

of the movie, um, who he played, we

played brother and sister in it, um,

548

00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:14,165

and, um, Yeah, it was just kind of

like this, um, really wonderful, like,

549

00:32:14,615 --> 00:32:16,875

collaboration that fell into place.

550

00:32:16,885 --> 00:32:22,275

It was not something I had, I had,

I just, I feel very lucky to have,

551

00:32:22,995 --> 00:32:28,435

um, You know, been there the right

time, you know, and be a part of it.

552

00:32:28,445 --> 00:32:31,065

And, um, yeah, it's a beautiful movie.

553

00:32:31,185 --> 00:32:34,015

Um, the secret art of human flight.

554

00:32:34,015 --> 00:32:39,965

It's very quirky and, but emotional

and, um, you know, deals with them

555

00:32:40,765 --> 00:32:45,885

with these big themes of grief and

loss and, you know, family and, um,

556

00:32:46,515 --> 00:32:53,610

you know, Paul Racey, obviously is, he

plays, um, an amazing character in it.

557

00:32:53,610 --> 00:32:56,010

And it's just a wonderful

actor and human being.

558

00:32:56,010 --> 00:32:59,330

And we all just had a really

wonderful time shooting it.

559

00:32:59,550 --> 00:33:01,200

Where did y'all shoot this?

560

00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:07,030

We shot it in the Berkshires

in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.

561

00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:15,260

Um, Yeah, it was, uh, um, still during

like, you know, uh, the height of COVID.

562

00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:22,640

So we were all, um, basically everyone

on the cast and crew, we were all

563

00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:28,710

living on this, um, They put us

up in like a, at an old like camp.

564

00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,530

So with cabins and, um, we were like,

yeah, y'all were doing like summer

565

00:33:33,530 --> 00:33:35,389

camp moviemaking kind of a thing.

566

00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:35,750

Basically.

567

00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:36,210

Yeah.

568

00:33:36,340 --> 00:33:36,850

Yeah.

569

00:33:36,890 --> 00:33:38,770

And it was the most fun ever.

570

00:33:38,770 --> 00:33:44,800

We had bonfires, we, you know, we

ate together, we went to and from

571

00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,459

work together and, um, and I think

it just made for like a really,

572

00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,550

Wonderful working environment.

573

00:33:54,590 --> 00:33:59,820

We were all just like became very

close and I'm still very close with a

574

00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,540

lot of the people who I worked with.

575

00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,970

And, and, you know, it was

kind of a rare situation.

576

00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:08,760

Cause like, you know, when you go do

a movie, you're like, you stop in,

577

00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,460

you say, hi, you do your thing and

then you go home and, you know, it

578

00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:18,260

was really nice to have that, um,

Sort of that camaraderie everyone.

579

00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:22,220

Yeah, that that's the thing was just like

it was a whole it was just a group group

580

00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:30,620

group of great people and you know, we

There wasn't a lot of money involved.

581

00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,640

It was just sort of like, you know,

let's like make this big Let's let's come

582

00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,070

together and make this generally kind

of kind of where do you fit into the uh,

583

00:34:40,140 --> 00:34:41,930

The puzzle of of the characters here.

584

00:34:42,490 --> 00:34:50,480

Yeah, so i'm um, the the movie starts

off with uh, ben who is played by grant

585

00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:57,962

rosenmeier, um, who's the lead of our

film he has Recently lost his wife and

586

00:34:57,962 --> 00:35:06,895

um, I play his Sister, who it turns out,

or you sort of get the sense that they

587

00:35:07,795 --> 00:35:16,665

are each other's only family and, um, so

like my, my character's name is Gloria

588

00:35:17,065 --> 00:35:27,745

and Gloria is, um, kind of this very sort

of practical, caring, older sister, um,

589

00:35:28,345 --> 00:35:30,975

who, you know, really loves her brother.

590

00:35:31,485 --> 00:35:35,275

Um, and worries about him a lot.

591

00:35:35,355 --> 00:35:41,985

Um, and you know, really tries to take

care of him because he's been going,

592

00:35:41,995 --> 00:35:48,565

he's going through this like incredible

loss and then, um, trying to keep him,

593

00:35:48,905 --> 00:35:52,765

um, you know, from going off the rails.

594

00:35:54,040 --> 00:36:02,120

Ben's character, he, um, is, you know,

thinking of, you know, having thoughts

595

00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,840

of suicide and, you know, it's pretty

dark, but, um, he comes across, you

596

00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:15,470

know, this Paul Raci's character,

Mealworm, who, um, has, who claims

597

00:36:15,470 --> 00:36:17,700

that he can teach him how to fly.

598

00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:29,240

Um, and, um, so, you know, in, in the

weirdest way, he And Ben is so, you

599

00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:35,830

know, distraught and, you know, he'll

do anything at this moment to like,

600

00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,610

you know, even if it's ridiculous.

601

00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:47,700

Before we get going, I

got something real quick.

602

00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,010

I call my seven questions.

603

00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:52,310

First question I always,

I always ask cause food.

604

00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:55,770

Typically I end up talking about at

least a few times every, every episode.

605

00:36:56,190 --> 00:37:00,310

Um, What, what is your

favorite comfort food?

606

00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200

That thing you always land on,

like you having a killer day.

607

00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,880

It sounds great.

608

00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,200

Or if you just a bummer day,

it just makes you happy.

609

00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:15,690

Um, like spaghetti marinara, like

just, yeah, put pomodoro sauce with

610

00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:18,870

like , you know, cheese very, very good.

611

00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:19,770

You know, keeping it simple.

612

00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:19,890

Yeah.

613

00:37:19,890 --> 00:37:22,460

My daughter was in Italy

and uh, she got back.

614

00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:26,600

She's like, I can't do pasta anymore,

. She said, I was like, I was so envious.

615

00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,205

I was like, you're the one, I wanna cut

you a pepe from the place, you know?

616

00:37:29,225 --> 00:37:29,645

Mm-Hmm.

617

00:37:29,785 --> 00:37:32,390

. Mm-Hmm . Now, if you were to sit

down with three folks, you're gonna,

618

00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:36,860

uh, have, uh, uh, coffee talk story

for a few hours, living or not,

619

00:37:36,860 --> 00:37:38,180

who would those three people be?

620

00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:41,420

You would like to sit down with and

have a, uh, have a cup of coffee with?

621

00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:42,550

Oh gosh.

622

00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,270

Um.

623

00:37:44,115 --> 00:37:51,655

Well, I think I would go with, um, my

aunt Gigi, who, um, is my dad's sister.

624

00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:57,155

She passed away, um, a little

while ago and I just, um, I miss

625

00:37:57,155 --> 00:38:03,355

her to death and would, um, just

love to have her, uh, at coffee.

626

00:38:03,755 --> 00:38:11,240

Um, but, uh, I think, uh, Going back to,

yeah, I think like maybe someone like

627

00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,480

Julietta Messina, that would be awesome

to see her, to meet her and talk to her.

628

00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,470

Um, and, uh, who would the third one be?

629

00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,820

I don't know.

630

00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:28,150

Someone like, um, I don't know,

like Ingrid Bergman or Oh, okay.

631

00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:28,450

Yeah.

632

00:38:28,510 --> 00:38:29,380

You know, yeah.

633

00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:32,350

somebody who was an icon at,

at there during their time.

634

00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:33,160

Yeah.

635

00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:33,280

Yeah.

636

00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,390

You know, fabulous ladies, you

know, who, uh, who could give

637

00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:39,930

me, um, you know, sound advice.

638

00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:43,210

Talk about their, you know experiences.

639

00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:48,690

The next question I got for you is

Going back to when you were young.

640

00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:51,180

Who's the first celebrity

crush that you had?

641

00:38:54,590 --> 00:38:55,400

I don't know.

642

00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:57,750

Um, let's see.

643

00:38:57,820 --> 00:39:03,240

I think that I really liked uh, I think of

644

00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:12,310

gosh, I guess it was someone, you know,

it was like Leonardo DiCaprio or Keanu

645

00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:19,020

Reeves or, um, yeah, I think it was

those are the guys that had the hits

646

00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:22,190

out back when you were growing up, you

know, the big, the big blockbusters.

647

00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:26,740

So now the next question, now, if

you're going to be on an Island, you

648

00:39:26,750 --> 00:39:29,950

love being on the, it's a beautiful,

wonderful resort type situation.

649

00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,599

You gotta be there for a whole year.

650

00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:33,760

There's no streaming, no internet.

651

00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,570

So you got to bring a DVD for like

one movie and a CD, uh, or I'll

652

00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:40,060

even give you a box set, whatever.

653

00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:42,470

But you know, you want to have

something to listen to and something

654

00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:45,120

to watch that you could watch and

listen to over and over again.

655

00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:46,710

What would that DVD be?

656

00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:48,899

What would that CD be for you?

657

00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:49,960

These are hard questions.

658

00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,010

Um, uh, gosh, I don't know.

659

00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:56,709

Um, I think, uh,

660

00:39:59,950 --> 00:40:02,980

you know, well, I'm going to go

with, I'm going to go with Notorious.

661

00:40:03,235 --> 00:40:05,425

my favorite movies.

662

00:40:06,135 --> 00:40:09,615

Um, and then, um, yeah,

I guess it would be.

663

00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:11,355

Music wise.

664

00:40:12,315 --> 00:40:19,075

Um, I think it would probably be like

the Beatles, like, you know, Revolver.

665

00:40:19,225 --> 00:40:19,445

Yeah.

666

00:40:19,445 --> 00:40:21,235

I always feel like a box

set with somebody like that.

667

00:40:21,235 --> 00:40:24,624

You'll never run out of music, you know?

668

00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:25,585

Um, okay.

669

00:40:25,585 --> 00:40:26,005

Very good.

670

00:40:26,005 --> 00:40:26,275

Very good.

671

00:40:26,275 --> 00:40:30,645

Now, if you were to define, uh, from

the time you get up to the time you

672

00:40:30,645 --> 00:40:34,945

go to bed, the component parts of a

perfect day for you, what would that

673

00:40:34,945 --> 00:40:36,765

be or what would those things be?

674

00:40:37,545 --> 00:40:45,540

It would be, um, you know, uh,

Great cup of coffee and, you know,

675

00:40:45,540 --> 00:40:47,990

a delicious scone or something.

676

00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:55,420

Um, and it would be spending time

with, you know, My family with my

677

00:40:55,420 --> 00:41:03,460

husband, with, um, my kid now, my baby,

my parents, my sister, my brother.

678

00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:10,630

Um, it would be being outside at some

point, you know, taking a walk or seeing,

679

00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,290

seeing nature of some sort, um, and

doing something like a little bit active.

680

00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:22,500

Like I, um, you know, I like

to do yoga or, um, just taking

681

00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:24,610

a good long walk is great.

682

00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:32,460

Um, And then, um, eating, eating some

really good food, eating, you know,

683

00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:40,890

some great pasta or pizza, um, you know,

having, um, maybe like a glass of wine

684

00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:45,500

and, uh, yeah, and watching a movie.

685

00:41:46,005 --> 00:41:48,665

That's taking it easy throughout the day.

686

00:41:48,705 --> 00:41:49,915

That's exactly right.

687

00:41:50,115 --> 00:41:50,275

Yeah.

688

00:41:50,485 --> 00:41:53,545

And I'm sure, I'm sure sooner than

later be like, you know, some, a whole

689

00:41:53,585 --> 00:41:55,325

full night of uninterrupted sleep.

690

00:41:55,445 --> 00:41:56,075

That would be glorious.

691

00:41:57,925 --> 00:42:01,665

Now if, next question, if you weren't

doing this for a living, if you weren't,

692

00:42:01,965 --> 00:42:06,715

uh, this wasn't your vocation, what,

Else, could you see yourself doing that

693

00:42:06,715 --> 00:42:11,025

would bring you joy that you, that it

would be the number two choice for you?

694

00:42:11,105 --> 00:42:11,935

What would that be?

695

00:42:12,825 --> 00:42:19,355

Um, I think it would be,

um, gosh, it would be, um,

696

00:42:21,425 --> 00:42:21,855

I don't know.

697

00:42:22,205 --> 00:42:25,735

I think it would be

something like artistic.

698

00:42:25,805 --> 00:42:34,735

Like, uh, if I, if I could, um, you

know, paint or draw and, um, Do that.

699

00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,125

That's what I would love to do.

700

00:42:36,195 --> 00:42:36,835

Very good.

701

00:42:36,835 --> 00:42:42,125

And the last question I got for you is,

uh, If you were to jump in that to that

702

00:42:42,125 --> 00:42:47,895

delorean, um, go back to you know, 16

year old you and you got a piece of advice

703

00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:53,490

uh, either to put yourself on a a little

bit different path or To make that moment

704

00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:54,940

of your life just a little bit better.

705

00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:56,660

What would that piece of advice be?

706

00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:59,400

You have a couple of minutes with

16 year old you, uh, what, what kind

707

00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,710

of advice are you passing along?

708

00:43:00,990 --> 00:43:07,250

Yeah, I think I would, um, just

say like to trust myself and to be

709

00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:16,650

myself and to, you know, have, um,

confidence in, um, in who I am.

710

00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:22,240

You know, I felt like, I think that

when at that age, you know, if like, I

711

00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:26,920

dealt with a lot of insecurities and so

that's, that's part of the rule book.

712

00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,820

You have to be insecure.

713

00:43:27,820 --> 00:43:31,390

You're coming right out of, I guess,

junior high, middle school age range.

714

00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:33,910

Now you're trying to find

your, you know, your handle.

715

00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,600

I, I would say that's probably

80 percent of the time.

716

00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,350

I'd say it's the folks say the

exact same thing, you know,

717

00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:40,690

that it's going to be okay.

718

00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:41,280

Stop stressing.

719

00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:42,020

Yeah.

720

00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,780

Lots of words of affirmation.

721

00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:46,430

Before we wrap up, you know,

you're talking about advice you

722

00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:52,070

give yourself given that you have,

you can tap the well of knowledge

723

00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,420

and experience your folks have.

724

00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,570

What piece of advice from both of

them has really throughout the years

725

00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:03,000

really resonated with you that you

thought was just fantastic advice

726

00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,130

for doing this gig for a living?

727

00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:05,940

Yeah.

728

00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:09,269

Well, um, to

729

00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:20,420

I think to have thick skin, try to have,

build up the thick skin, but to, to really

730

00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:29,080

like listen to people and really, um, You

know, give, give people, um, space to,

731

00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:36,210

so that they could, you could bounce

off of them, you know, to, to really,

732

00:44:36,810 --> 00:44:40,690

um, uh, yeah, just be a good listener.

733

00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:43,890

Well, I, I so appreciate you sharing

time with me and having a one

734

00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:46,179

month old baby or God bless you.

735

00:44:46,180 --> 00:44:49,300

Well, congratulations on, on

the film, on the baby, and, uh,

736

00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:52,620

hopefully we'll have a chance, uh,

down the line, uh, connect again.

737

00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:53,600

That would be great.

738

00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:54,770

Thank you so much, Marc.

739

00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:57,580

All right, there you go.

740

00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:58,730

Lucy DeVito.

741

00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:01,150

Really enjoyed this conversation with her.

742

00:45:01,190 --> 00:45:03,750

Uh, the new movie you

can check out right now.

743

00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,120

Video on Demand or VOD.

744

00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:09,410

It is called The Secret

Art of Human Flight.

745

00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:10,250

Uh, check it out.

746

00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:13,760

And, uh, tell you what, I want to

thank you very much for coming by

747

00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,490

today, spending some time with me.

748

00:45:15,770 --> 00:45:19,790

Uh, make sure to leave a review,

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749

00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:21,440

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750

00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,280

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752

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753

00:45:29,450 --> 00:45:30,985

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754

00:45:30,985 --> 00:45:32,500

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755

00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,575

And that's it for me today.

756

00:45:35,605 --> 00:45:37,445

We will be back together soon.

757

00:45:37,795 --> 00:45:42,815

And you have yourself a great rest of your

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758

00:45:43,185 --> 00:45:46,595

Thank you for making this show

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759

00:45:47,005 --> 00:45:47,915

It is appreciated.

760

00:45:48,225 --> 00:45:51,584

And we'll see you next time

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761

00:45:51,585 --> 00:45:54,195

That's it for this episode

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762

00:45:54,405 --> 00:45:58,745

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763

00:45:59,295 --> 00:46:03,105

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764

00:46:04,045 --> 00:46:06,445

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765

00:46:06,815 --> 00:46:09,245

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766

00:46:09,605 --> 00:46:12,915

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769

00:46:19,315 --> 00:46:22,265

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772

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773

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774

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