Graham McTavish | Men in Kilts

I was a massive fan of 24.

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Graham McTavish: A massive fan which I kept embarrassing

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Graham McTavish: myself with on set, constantly telling the

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Graham McTavish: producers how much of a fan I was at the

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Graham McTavish: show.

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Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going

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Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Graham McTavish: Okay, graham, we get it.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Announcer: Now here's your host, Marc Preston Alright

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Announcer: we are back, you and I together.

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Marc Preston: Another episode of Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: I always appreciate you coming back by

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Marc Preston: subscribing being a part of my mischief

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Marc Preston: here, so it does mean a lot to me.

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Marc Preston: And, of course, if you're brand new to the

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Marc Preston: Graham McTavish and you're like fine, i'll

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Marc Preston: check out this Story and Craft show.

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Marc Preston: Thank you very much.

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Marc Preston: I appreciate you taking a moment with me.

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Marc Preston: It is very much appreciated.

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Marc Preston: Today, as I mentioned, graham McTavish,

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Marc Preston: scottish actor, very talented.

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Marc Preston: He is legitimately in everything And I do

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Marc Preston: mean that It's hard to keep track of

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Marc Preston: everything he's in right now, like he's

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Marc Preston: been in the Hobbit movies, he is right now

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Marc Preston: in the Game of Thrones prequel, house of

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Marc Preston: the Dragon on HBO Max or is it just?

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Marc Preston: it's just Max now.

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Marc Preston: Also, he stars in the Stars show, Outlander

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Marc Preston: and, of course, the Witcher.

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Marc Preston: On Netflix.

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Marc Preston: He has a show with his Outlander co-star,

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Marc Preston: sam Hewan, though It is called Men and

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Marc Preston: Kilt's Road Trip with Sam and Graham.

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Marc Preston: Very interesting show for me right now.

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Marc Preston: It's all things Scotland just discovered

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Marc Preston: through.

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Marc Preston: I did the Ancestry thing found out.

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Marc Preston: I'm one quarter Scottish, just learned that

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Marc Preston: the other day, of course.

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Marc Preston: Really cool show.

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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed it.

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Marc Preston: New episodes, new season that is coming out

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Marc Preston: on August 11th on Stars.

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Marc Preston: So that's Men and Kilt's.

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Marc Preston: We'll talk about that as well as a lot of

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Marc Preston: other stuff.

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Marc Preston: Do me a favor if you would, a little small

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Marc Preston: Got the phone in hand, hit that subscribe

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Marc Preston: That's one of my kids texting me.

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Marc Preston: I'll leave that in the show, why not?

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Marc Preston: Let's see which kid it is.

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Marc Preston: Let's make this part of the program today.

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Marc Preston: So that's my daughter, lily, right there

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Marc Preston: texting me.

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Marc Preston: I guess I need to go pick her up now.

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Marc Preston: So I'll wrap this up.

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Marc Preston: This is a fun episode.

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Marc Preston: Really enjoyed the chat with Graham, very

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Marc Preston: talented actor.

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Marc Preston: He has done so much great work And, once

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Marc Preston: okay, so let's get after it.

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Marc Preston: Today is Graham McTavish Day, right here on

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Marc Preston: Story and Craft.

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Marc Preston: So how are you doing today, sir?

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Marc Preston: Good, yeah, very well, thanks, not bad at

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Marc Preston: all.

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Marc Preston: Where are you joining us from today?

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Marc Preston: I'm in London, i'm in London.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, now we are going to touch today on

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Marc Preston: the whole Scottish thing, without a doubt,

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Marc Preston: because I just did the not 23 of me was an

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Marc Preston: ancestry thing And I'm one quarter, one

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Marc Preston: quarter Scottish.

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Marc Preston: I had no, i thought I was.

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Marc Preston: I'm mostly Ukrainian Jew, but I'm one

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Marc Preston: quarter Scottish, one quarter English.

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Marc Preston: I had no idea and did a little research,

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Marc Preston: found out my family actually has a castle

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Marc Preston: from way back when in Scotland.

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Marc Preston: So I'm like, wait a minute, i'm speaking to

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Marc Preston: the man I need to speak to today.

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Graham McTavish: Which clan is that?

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Marc Preston: I think in France it'd be Bouchon, but it's

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Marc Preston: pronounced Beacham.

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Marc Preston: I think It's so funny because one part of

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Marc Preston: my family wasn't in the US till 1907.

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Marc Preston: The other part actually financed the

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Marc Preston: Mayflower is one of a group of people that

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Marc Preston: actually financed it.

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Marc Preston: So, my son and I were going through and

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Marc Preston: find out one of the this Beacham fellow was

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Marc Preston: knighted.

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Marc Preston: You can go down a rabbit hole with these

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Marc Preston: ancestries.

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Marc Preston: You know these genetic things here.

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Marc Preston: Did you ever do that, bonnie Chance?

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Graham McTavish: Not the ancestry thing I've done.

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Graham McTavish: What have I done?

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Graham McTavish: A lady offered to do my family tree, and so

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Graham McTavish: that's a sort of Scottish-Irish background

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Graham McTavish: in my family And she, my goodness, my God,

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Graham McTavish: i mean the family tree that she produced is

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Graham McTavish: like six yards long.

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Graham McTavish: Isn't that amazing?

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Graham McTavish: Oh, it doesn't take long.

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Graham McTavish: You don't have to go back that far to

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Graham McTavish: suddenly have.

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Marc Preston: Yeah, i saw something online.

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Marc Preston: If you just go back eight generations,

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Marc Preston: that's something like was it eight or

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Marc Preston: something?

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Marc Preston: I forgot there's like some ridiculously

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Marc Preston: large number of people who get into your

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Marc Preston: family tree, absolutely.

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Marc Preston: It was very serendipitous because I'm

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Marc Preston: seeing the show with you and Sam I was

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Marc Preston: watching a few days ago.

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Marc Preston: I forgot.

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Marc Preston: I forgot which episode I was watching.

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Marc Preston: I think it was about the Highland games and

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Marc Preston: they had to lift the heavy stone onto the.

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Marc Preston: There was a you know feats of strength kind

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Marc Preston: of thing.

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Marc Preston: The putrid and you pass of aggressively

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Marc Preston: knocked the stone off the thing.

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Marc Preston: I'm like, ok, well, that's kind of what I

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Marc Preston: would do.

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Marc Preston: You know the young guy, you can lift it,

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Marc Preston: but I can push it off.

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Graham McTavish: Well, i mean, yeah, that I mean all.

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Graham McTavish: all credit to Sam.

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Graham McTavish: That is enormously difficult to do.

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Graham McTavish: that It's one thing to lift two hundred

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Graham McTavish: pounds, like in a gym, but to lift a stone.

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Marc Preston: I got, i got a hernia just watching him do

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Marc Preston: that.

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Marc Preston: It's, yeah, it's very difficult to get a

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Marc Preston: grip.

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Marc Preston: So, yes, well, the men and kilt thing.

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Marc Preston: How did that come together?

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Marc Preston: How was that?

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Marc Preston: How was that show conceived of and then

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Marc Preston: brought to fruition?

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Graham McTavish: Yeah, Well, i always had an interest in

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Graham McTavish: Scottish history, so I had actually written

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Graham McTavish: a treatment for an idea called clan lands

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Graham McTavish: in 1992.

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Graham McTavish: Well, 1991, i think, actually, and the idea

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Graham McTavish: was to explore Scottish clans And that was

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Graham McTavish: what I was interested in.

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Graham McTavish: And I remember talking about this to Sam

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Graham McTavish: and Sam has an interest in Scottish history

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Graham McTavish: as well, of course And then he rang me.

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Graham McTavish: He rang me in New Zealand.

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Graham McTavish: I was in New Zealand, i was in the kitchen

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Graham McTavish: and he said hey mate, why don't we?

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Graham McTavish: we should do something about Scottish

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Graham McTavish: history together.

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Graham McTavish: It would be fun.

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Graham McTavish: Maybe we could do a podcast.

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Marc Preston: Now is he from there as well, Or was he

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Marc Preston: kind of hitching on, hitching his wagon to

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Marc Preston: you and then talking about the Scottish

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Marc Preston: thing?

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Graham McTavish: No, no, he was.

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Graham McTavish: He had his own interest in it for sure.

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Graham McTavish: But he remembered me talking about my

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Graham McTavish: interest and thought that it's and I agree

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Graham McTavish: with him that these things are often more

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Graham McTavish: enjoyable when you team up with somebody

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Graham McTavish: that necessarily do more yourself.

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Graham McTavish: So you know, he suggested a podcast and I

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Graham McTavish: didn't even know what a podcast was.

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Graham McTavish: So I sort of went sure, yeah, and then that

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Graham McTavish: quickly was sort of put to one side And

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Graham McTavish: then he suggested doing a recorded kind of

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Graham McTavish: series using gun go pros, which even I knew

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Graham McTavish: was preposterous.

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Graham McTavish: You know the idea of me sitting with a

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Graham McTavish: GoPro strapped to my forehead with him with

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Graham McTavish: stupid.

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Graham McTavish: So it didn't take as long to come up with

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Graham McTavish: the idea of doing it, actually filming it

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Graham McTavish: properly.

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Graham McTavish: So we got together a group of people that

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Graham McTavish: we'd worked with in Scotland on Outlander

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Graham McTavish: crew and we we just went out for five

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Graham McTavish: consecutive weekends and we went all over

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Graham McTavish: Scotland and we filled that's it.

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Marc Preston: That's just five weekends, that's it.

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Graham McTavish: Well, no, that was.

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Graham McTavish: That was what we did for the to try and

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Graham McTavish: persuade stars.

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Marc Preston: Oh, because you could do like a pilot

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Marc Preston: together.

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Marc Preston: I got you Kind of.

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Graham McTavish: Yeah, i mean we literally listen.

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Graham McTavish: We didn't, we didn't really know exactly

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Graham McTavish: what we were doing.

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Graham McTavish: There was no script We got, we took a hold

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Graham McTavish: of a load of people that we thought would

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Graham McTavish: be interesting to talk to, and then we

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Graham McTavish: drove and we met them And and so everything.

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Graham McTavish: You see, and that was the format for the

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Graham McTavish: series when we actually came to make it.

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Marc Preston: It's completely unscripted and it's the

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Marc Preston: same with the second season, but isn't that

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Marc Preston: more fun sometimes to do that, because you

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Marc Preston: are sort of hanging yourself out there to

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Graham McTavish: Now, did you learn more about, or did you

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Graham McTavish: Wow, i know, i was just gobsmacked,

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Graham McTavish: Shakespeare's folio was published in 1623.

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Graham McTavish: No, we were looking for a prop for the

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Graham McTavish: And I, i, yeah, i was pretty speechless.

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Marc Preston: Did you take a little time?

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Graham McTavish: I certainly did.

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Graham McTavish: I certainly did have a look.

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Graham McTavish: Well, i, i mean, i sort of fell into acting

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Graham McTavish: Then the drama teacher kept asking me to be

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Marc Preston: No, i get no idea.

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Graham McTavish: Just no interest.

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Graham McTavish: You know, i had no interest in performing

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Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Marc Preston: That's how you have a career in acting.

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Marc Preston: You're dialed into that.

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Marc Preston: It's funny.

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Marc Preston: I teach voiceover.

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Marc Preston: It just takes off, you know.

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Graham McTavish: a kid, and it's not like I'm having to oh,

464

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Graham McTavish: now I have to get into some kind of

465

00:17:34,164 --> 00:17:34,345

Graham McTavish: character.

466

00:17:34,827 --> 00:17:35,590

Graham McTavish: It's just like that.

467

00:17:36,445 --> 00:17:37,969

Marc Preston: You don't see kids being all method.

468

00:17:38,009 --> 00:17:39,613

Marc Preston: When they try to play cops and robbers, you

469

00:17:39,653 --> 00:17:41,177

Marc Preston: know they just buy in and they're there.

470

00:17:43,252 --> 00:17:45,983

Graham McTavish: No, not a lot of Daniel Day-Lewis going on

471

00:17:46,003 --> 00:17:46,385

Graham McTavish: in the playground.

472

00:17:46,969 --> 00:17:49,143

Marc Preston: No as far as kids go, do you have any kids

473

00:17:49,204 --> 00:17:49,365

Marc Preston: at all?

474

00:17:50,148 --> 00:17:50,429

Graham McTavish: I do.

475

00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:53,521

Graham McTavish: Yeah, I have a 16 and an 11 year old, both

476

00:17:53,742 --> 00:17:54,124

Graham McTavish: girls.

477

00:17:54,144 --> 00:17:54,204

Graham McTavish: Yes.

478

00:17:55,550 --> 00:17:56,393

Marc Preston: Oh, very good, I've got a.

479

00:17:56,754 --> 00:17:57,939

Marc Preston: my youngest is 17.

480

00:17:57,999 --> 00:17:59,285

Marc Preston: Yeah, are they growing up in London?

481

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Graham McTavish: They're actually in New Zealand, which is

482

00:18:02,272 --> 00:18:06,534

Graham McTavish: where we we moved to for the Hobbit, and

483

00:18:06,654 --> 00:18:08,421

Graham McTavish: they've been there with their mother and

484

00:18:08,461 --> 00:18:09,345

Graham McTavish: then I see them.

485

00:18:09,806 --> 00:18:11,651

Graham McTavish: In fact they're coming over in a couple of

486

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Graham McTavish: days for a holiday.

487

00:18:14,087 --> 00:18:16,573

Graham McTavish: Yeah, i go back three or four times a year

488

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Graham McTavish: to New Zealand spend time with them.

489

00:18:18,405 --> 00:18:20,425

Graham McTavish: They come over here a couple of times, so

490

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Graham McTavish: you know I see them quite a lot, quite a

491

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Graham McTavish: lot.

492

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Marc Preston: Yeah, new Zealand, they did.

493

00:18:25,049 --> 00:18:26,894

Marc Preston: I saw something was voted one of the most

494

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Marc Preston: The happy God.

495

00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:32,015

Marc Preston: I was watching something the other day

496

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Marc Preston: talking about where people are the happiest

497

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Marc Preston: or the best quality of life And New

498

00:18:36,007 --> 00:18:37,612

Marc Preston: Zealand's like a top five, i think.

499

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Graham McTavish: I mean it's an interesting New Zealand's

500

00:18:40,418 --> 00:18:40,962

Graham McTavish: interesting.

501

00:18:40,982 --> 00:18:43,132

Graham McTavish: It's interesting, i think there's I mean,

502

00:18:43,152 --> 00:18:45,883

Graham McTavish: if I'm completely honest, there is somewhat

503

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Graham McTavish: other of a sort of contradiction in New

504

00:18:48,589 --> 00:18:52,216

Graham McTavish: Zealand, in that New Zealand is beautiful,

505

00:18:52,937 --> 00:18:57,396

Graham McTavish: it is utterly beautiful and it is, you know,

506

00:18:57,416 --> 00:18:58,339

Graham McTavish: i suppose, lord of the.

507

00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,022

Graham McTavish: Rings was filmed.

508

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Graham McTavish: This is where the Hobbit was filmed.

509

00:19:00,025 --> 00:19:03,552

Graham McTavish: This is a sort of fantasy land, almost

510

00:19:03,872 --> 00:19:09,142

Graham McTavish: otherworldly, but it also is far away from

511

00:19:09,302 --> 00:19:11,728

Graham McTavish: everything, and you feel that when you're

512

00:19:11,748 --> 00:19:14,056

Graham McTavish: there And I think it's a very, very

513

00:19:14,237 --> 00:19:17,007

Graham McTavish: wonderful place to grow up, to be a child

514

00:19:17,509 --> 00:19:19,235

Graham McTavish: And I'm very grateful that my children have

515

00:19:19,275 --> 00:19:21,604

Graham McTavish: been growing up there I think it starts to

516

00:19:21,625 --> 00:19:23,348

Graham McTavish: become a little more tricky.

517

00:19:23,989 --> 00:19:25,652

Graham McTavish: When you get into your late teens, early

518

00:19:25,692 --> 00:19:26,093

Graham McTavish: twenties.

519

00:19:26,474 --> 00:19:30,807

Graham McTavish: You feel the need to travel, and so yeah,

520

00:19:30,827 --> 00:19:31,168

Graham McTavish: would it be.

521

00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:33,253

Marc Preston: I don't know if the phrase necessarily

522

00:19:33,293 --> 00:19:35,709

Marc Preston: would be island fever, but is that sense

523

00:19:35,769 --> 00:19:38,462

Marc Preston: that you are kind of on this, contain space

524

00:19:38,543 --> 00:19:38,864

Marc Preston: and you kind of?

525

00:19:38,884 --> 00:19:39,025

Graham McTavish: want to.

526

00:19:39,726 --> 00:19:41,570

Graham McTavish: They call it in New Zealand.

527

00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:43,213

Graham McTavish: They call it the tyranny of distance.

528

00:19:45,056 --> 00:19:48,488

Graham McTavish: So it's you are just conscious that you are

529

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Graham McTavish: 1200 miles from the nearest landmass, which

530

00:19:51,983 --> 00:19:52,385

Graham McTavish: is a long walk.

531

00:19:52,385 --> 00:19:52,890

Graham McTavish: Really, is it that?

532

00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:56,433

Marc Preston: far from Australia, australia, 1200 miles.

533

00:19:56,625 --> 00:19:57,929

Marc Preston: Looking at a map you think it's kind of

534

00:19:57,949 --> 00:20:00,215

Marc Preston: close, but 1200 miles, there's a little bit

535

00:20:00,235 --> 00:20:00,716

Marc Preston: of a haul.

536

00:20:00,957 --> 00:20:04,295

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, it is.

537

00:20:04,566 --> 00:20:04,808

Marc Preston: Are they?

538

00:20:04,908 --> 00:20:06,538

Marc Preston: are they any of them kind of potentially

539

00:20:06,578 --> 00:20:07,645

Marc Preston: following in your footsteps?

540

00:20:07,785 --> 00:20:08,909

Marc Preston: Are they theatrical?

541

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Graham McTavish: Are they little little fespians or I mean

542

00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:14,382

Graham McTavish: you know they've done school plays and

543

00:20:14,402 --> 00:20:14,785

Graham McTavish: things like that.

544

00:20:14,946 --> 00:20:16,772

Graham McTavish: I mean I've neither encouraged them or

545

00:20:16,812 --> 00:20:17,875

Graham McTavish: discouraged them at all.

546

00:20:20,026 --> 00:20:23,859

Graham McTavish: I think I mean my youngest daughter, i you

547

00:20:23,899 --> 00:20:25,846

Graham McTavish: know she talks about being a lawyer, she

548

00:20:25,886 --> 00:20:28,194

Graham McTavish: talks about being all sorts of things.

549

00:20:29,766 --> 00:20:31,290

Graham McTavish: She's a natural debater.

550

00:20:31,952 --> 00:20:33,376

Graham McTavish: She could debate you about anything.

551

00:20:34,005 --> 00:20:36,190

Graham McTavish: And my eldest is interested in the film

552

00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:38,496

Graham McTavish: industry, but she's interested in it from

553

00:20:38,536 --> 00:20:39,237

Graham McTavish: behind the camera.

554

00:20:39,785 --> 00:20:42,492

Graham McTavish: So, and I'm all for that, i'm all for that

555

00:20:42,532 --> 00:20:46,487

Graham McTavish: because acting is a very it's, it's a very,

556

00:20:46,568 --> 00:20:50,056

Graham McTavish: very, very difficult path and not to be

557

00:20:50,097 --> 00:20:50,357

Graham McTavish: taken.

558

00:20:50,606 --> 00:20:51,852

Marc Preston: Yeah, you definitely need to.

559

00:20:51,952 --> 00:20:52,636

Marc Preston: what was that phrase?

560

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Marc Preston: that if you can't imagine yourself doing

561

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Marc Preston: anything else, then yeah, go for it, but if

562

00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:57,594

Marc Preston: you can imagine yourself doing a multitude

563

00:20:57,614 --> 00:20:59,645

Marc Preston: of other things, maybe it's not the thing.

564

00:20:59,745 --> 00:21:00,870

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

565

00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:02,247

Marc Preston: Yeah, it's so funny.

566

00:21:02,267 --> 00:21:04,032

Marc Preston: You said that a debater thing My youngest

567

00:21:04,152 --> 00:21:07,087

Marc Preston: is she's the one that calls, calls me out

568

00:21:07,107 --> 00:21:09,477

Marc Preston: on my nonsense and she's usually right.

569

00:21:09,657 --> 00:21:11,665

Marc Preston: You know so, but hopefully she doesn't

570

00:21:11,826 --> 00:21:13,551

Marc Preston: really listen to this, so she won't know.

571

00:21:13,591 --> 00:21:14,875

Marc Preston: I'm actually giving her credit.

572

00:21:23,565 --> 00:21:26,916

Marc Preston: Now you were growing up in in Scotland,

573

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Marc Preston: Were your parents?

574

00:21:28,301 --> 00:21:30,307

Marc Preston: were you coming from a family of Thespians,

575

00:21:30,428 --> 00:21:32,274

Marc Preston: or were they of a whole different track?

576

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Graham McTavish: No, no, not at all.

577

00:21:34,211 --> 00:21:35,617

Graham McTavish: There was no history at all about.

578

00:21:35,778 --> 00:21:37,405

Graham McTavish: Well, the only person that did any acting

579

00:21:37,525 --> 00:21:40,233

Graham McTavish: in my family was my sister, who did it at

580

00:21:40,273 --> 00:21:43,162

Graham McTavish: school, and so I remember going to see her

581

00:21:43,704 --> 00:21:45,309

Graham McTavish: in a school production of crime and

582

00:21:45,369 --> 00:21:49,581

Graham McTavish: punishment, which isn't, you know what you

583

00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:51,728

Graham McTavish: would imagine would be the obvious choice

584

00:21:51,809 --> 00:21:54,558

Graham McTavish: for a school play crime and punishment It's

585

00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:57,007

Graham McTavish: yeah, i mean thinking about it now it's

586

00:21:57,047 --> 00:21:59,655

Graham McTavish: like wow, but they were a very sort of

587

00:21:59,796 --> 00:22:02,685

Graham McTavish: forward thinking school And I went to the

588

00:22:02,705 --> 00:22:05,794

Graham McTavish: same school, but that was the only time.

589

00:22:05,854 --> 00:22:08,321

Graham McTavish: And she, she was very good, actually she

590

00:22:08,362 --> 00:22:10,206

Graham McTavish: was very good, but life took her down a

591

00:22:10,246 --> 00:22:10,867

Graham McTavish: different road.

592

00:22:12,650 --> 00:22:16,497

Graham McTavish: But my mother, my mother, was picked to be

593

00:22:17,158 --> 00:22:20,208

Graham McTavish: in a school play when she was young.

594

00:22:20,268 --> 00:22:23,379

Graham McTavish: But you know, my mother was born in 1922.

595

00:22:23,419 --> 00:22:24,021

Graham McTavish: And there was no.

596

00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:24,944

Graham McTavish: There was.

597

00:22:24,965 --> 00:22:26,572

Graham McTavish: I mean, she came from a working class

598

00:22:26,681 --> 00:22:26,962

Graham McTavish: family.

599

00:22:27,071 --> 00:22:29,918

Graham McTavish: I mean there was no possibility of anybody

600

00:22:30,027 --> 00:22:31,939

Graham McTavish: of that generation and that background

601

00:22:31,979 --> 00:22:34,182

Graham McTavish: really at that time getting a career in

602

00:22:34,262 --> 00:22:34,502

Graham McTavish: acting.

603

00:22:34,522 --> 00:22:36,328

Graham McTavish: It was it'd be very, very, very, very hard,

604

00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:38,071

Graham McTavish: so it wouldn't have even crossed our mind.

605

00:22:39,414 --> 00:22:42,987

Graham McTavish: But what I will say is that they were

606

00:22:43,167 --> 00:22:45,211

Graham McTavish: incredibly encouraging and supportive.

607

00:22:46,053 --> 00:22:46,754

Marc Preston: Okay, that's good.

608

00:22:47,355 --> 00:22:50,028

Marc Preston: Yeah, they never, because I've spoken with

609

00:22:50,068 --> 00:22:52,218

Marc Preston: many people who, when someone decides, hey,

610

00:22:52,238 --> 00:22:53,665

Marc Preston: i'm gonna do this, acting thing there,

611

00:22:53,966 --> 00:22:55,793

Marc Preston: usually as one parent or somebody's like

612

00:22:56,676 --> 00:22:58,302

Marc Preston: you know, sometimes they're trying to

613

00:22:58,342 --> 00:23:00,229

Marc Preston: protect you by saying you know this is

614

00:23:00,410 --> 00:23:01,575

Marc Preston: difficult, what are you doing?

615

00:23:02,598 --> 00:23:02,779

Marc Preston: But?

616

00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:04,525

Marc Preston: but, but you had the encouragement They

617

00:23:04,545 --> 00:23:08,393

Marc Preston: were, they were all in on your yeah, I mean

618

00:23:08,473 --> 00:23:09,114

Marc Preston: my mother.

619

00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:12,407

Graham McTavish: My mother was somebody that you know.

620

00:23:12,769 --> 00:23:14,137

Graham McTavish: I could have told her I wanted to do

621

00:23:14,197 --> 00:23:15,424

Graham McTavish: anything and she would have supported me.

622

00:23:16,608 --> 00:23:19,595

Graham McTavish: My father, his only concern was the money.

623

00:23:20,557 --> 00:23:23,605

Marc Preston: It was the money, and when he was your

624

00:23:23,625 --> 00:23:25,171

Marc Preston: father, the practical one in the family.

625

00:23:25,312 --> 00:23:27,039

Graham McTavish: Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, he was.

626

00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:29,166

Graham McTavish: He was a pilot in the Second World War.

627

00:23:30,229 --> 00:23:32,113

Graham McTavish: He was a civil aviation pilot, but he'd

628

00:23:32,153 --> 00:23:35,626

Graham McTavish: grown up as a as an apprentice printer in

629

00:23:35,646 --> 00:23:38,652

Graham McTavish: Glasgow, and so he came from a very strong

630

00:23:38,732 --> 00:23:41,517

Graham McTavish: working class background And and, weirdly

631

00:23:41,578 --> 00:23:44,470

Graham McTavish: enough, as I get older, i see many, many

632

00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,233

Graham McTavish: more parallels with my father's life in

633

00:23:47,362 --> 00:23:49,706

Graham McTavish: terms of how he was as a person.

634

00:23:50,167 --> 00:23:53,434

Graham McTavish: He wasn't really satisfied with the world

635

00:23:53,494 --> 00:23:55,578

Graham McTavish: that he grew up in and wanted something

636

00:23:55,658 --> 00:23:58,551

Graham McTavish: more and wanted to travel, wanted to,

637

00:23:58,671 --> 00:24:00,355

Graham McTavish: wanted to experience the world, and that's,

638

00:24:00,636 --> 00:24:02,407

Graham McTavish: that's indeed what he did.

639

00:24:03,631 --> 00:24:05,537

Graham McTavish: So, in that sense, not that he wanted to be

640

00:24:05,557 --> 00:24:09,188

Graham McTavish: an actor, but he, he, he, he, every he.

641

00:24:09,248 --> 00:24:11,593

Graham McTavish: My mother dragged him to every single play

642

00:24:11,633 --> 00:24:14,167

Graham McTavish: that I ever did, every single one all over

643

00:24:14,187 --> 00:24:15,132

Graham McTavish: the country Was.

644

00:24:15,253 --> 00:24:17,081

Marc Preston: you see, was he a commercial airline pilot

645

00:24:17,503 --> 00:24:19,110

Marc Preston: after the war He did after the Second World

646

00:24:19,150 --> 00:24:19,391

Marc Preston: War.

647

00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:20,615

Graham McTavish: Yeah, he was.

648

00:24:20,655 --> 00:24:22,984

Graham McTavish: He was a bomber pilot in the war And then

649

00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:25,771

Graham McTavish: he became a commercial airline pilot And so

650

00:24:25,811 --> 00:24:26,914

Graham McTavish: he was a big aviation nerd.

651

00:24:26,934 --> 00:24:29,368

Marc Preston: I always love hearing stories of you know

652

00:24:29,408 --> 00:24:30,997

Marc Preston: going to the flight museums and seeing the

653

00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:32,305

Marc Preston: old war birds and the.

654

00:24:33,168 --> 00:24:35,335

Marc Preston: when I learned how to fly I'm not the air

655

00:24:35,355 --> 00:24:37,663

Marc Preston: the, the, not Academy, a little flight

656

00:24:37,683 --> 00:24:40,210

Marc Preston: school was right next door to a aviation

657

00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:41,594

Marc Preston: museum where most of the planes actually

658

00:24:41,634 --> 00:24:42,516

Marc Preston: still flew And they had a.

659

00:24:42,846 --> 00:24:44,794

Marc Preston: I don't mean to over romanticize it, it was

660

00:24:44,874 --> 00:24:47,164

Marc Preston: war after all, but but still, you know

661

00:24:47,204 --> 00:24:49,450

Marc Preston: that's kind of your father I'm sure had

662

00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:50,152

Marc Preston: many stories.

663

00:24:50,573 --> 00:24:52,056

Marc Preston: Oh, yeah, yeah.

664

00:24:52,136 --> 00:24:55,545

Graham McTavish: I mean he, he grew up again, born in 1922,

665

00:24:57,290 --> 00:24:58,954

Graham McTavish: where he grew up he was able to see

666

00:24:59,175 --> 00:24:59,777

Graham McTavish: aircraft.

667

00:24:59,977 --> 00:25:02,725

Graham McTavish: You know, in the in the early 1930s he was

668

00:25:02,765 --> 00:25:05,931

Graham McTavish: able to see aircraft flying around where he,

669

00:25:06,112 --> 00:25:08,977

Graham McTavish: where he lived, and he dreamt of being a

670

00:25:09,017 --> 00:25:11,648

Graham McTavish: pilot and could never have possibly

671

00:25:11,709 --> 00:25:13,212

Graham McTavish: imagined that he could become one.

672

00:25:13,874 --> 00:25:15,687

Graham McTavish: And it was only the war, like a lot of

673

00:25:15,727 --> 00:25:17,934

Graham McTavish: people, that allowed him to realize that

674

00:25:18,195 --> 00:25:19,118

Graham McTavish: dream really.

675

00:25:20,281 --> 00:25:22,308

Graham McTavish: But he never spoke about the war, never

676

00:25:23,051 --> 00:25:23,493

Graham McTavish: never once.

677

00:25:23,694 --> 00:25:25,340

Marc Preston: Yeah, because he was a young man, when he

678

00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,665

Marc Preston: was still a man in his early 20s.

679

00:25:27,267 --> 00:25:29,152

Marc Preston: When I and looking at my kids, i'm sure you

680

00:25:29,192 --> 00:25:31,198

Marc Preston: kind of do the same thing with the younger

681

00:25:31,258 --> 00:25:33,550

Marc Preston: folk It's like God.

682

00:25:33,591 --> 00:25:35,516

Marc Preston: I cannot imagine being 21, 22.

683

00:25:36,098 --> 00:25:37,703

Graham McTavish: Yeah, he enlisted in when he was.

684

00:25:37,723 --> 00:25:41,612

Graham McTavish: He was 19, when he enlisted, and I cannot

685

00:25:41,772 --> 00:25:43,056

Graham McTavish: even imagine it.

686

00:25:43,898 --> 00:25:46,204

Marc Preston: No, There was a certain discipline in that

687

00:25:46,224 --> 00:25:46,465

Marc Preston: generation.

688

00:25:47,166 --> 00:25:51,694

Graham McTavish: Well, you, you see, you see, I see pictures

689

00:25:51,754 --> 00:25:53,417

Graham McTavish: of him when he was 19.

690

00:25:53,998 --> 00:25:56,647

Graham McTavish: And he just looks like a man, like a man.

691

00:25:57,067 --> 00:26:01,036

Graham McTavish: Not, he's not a teenager, He's a man, And I

692

00:26:01,056 --> 00:26:02,459

Graham McTavish: mean he left school when he was 14.

693

00:26:03,105 --> 00:26:05,711

Graham McTavish: So he'd had a lot of life experience by the

694

00:26:05,752 --> 00:26:06,594

Graham McTavish: time he was 19.

695

00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:08,418

Graham McTavish: But I mean, people were different then,

696

00:26:08,625 --> 00:26:09,147

Graham McTavish: they just were.

697

00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:11,231

Marc Preston: I think so.

698

00:26:11,371 --> 00:26:13,636

Marc Preston: You know the times pretty much called upon

699

00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:14,238

Marc Preston: them to be.

700

00:26:14,545 --> 00:26:16,652

Marc Preston: You know to, to, to meet the moment.

701

00:26:16,753 --> 00:26:18,499

Marc Preston: You know Well, and his father.

702

00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,527

Graham McTavish: His father had fought in the First World

703

00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:20,828

Graham McTavish: War.

704

00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:24,400

Graham McTavish: Family members had died in the First World

705

00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,326

Graham McTavish: War, both with my mother's family and my

706

00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:27,029

Graham McTavish: father's family.

707

00:26:27,089 --> 00:26:28,735

Graham McTavish: So then this was life.

708

00:26:28,815 --> 00:26:30,220

Graham McTavish: This was what life was like.

709

00:26:30,902 --> 00:26:32,908

Graham McTavish: You know, it was a very real part of your

710

00:26:32,948 --> 00:26:37,818

Graham McTavish: existence that, on the whole, we have been

711

00:26:37,858 --> 00:26:40,463

Graham McTavish: spared, comparatively.

712

00:26:40,483 --> 00:26:42,929

Graham McTavish: I mean people like yourself, me, you know,

713

00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:43,751

Graham McTavish: i don't do.

714

00:26:44,292 --> 00:26:45,515

Graham McTavish: I don't know if you've ever served in the

715

00:26:45,535 --> 00:26:49,055

Graham McTavish: military, but it's not something that that

716

00:26:49,416 --> 00:26:51,584

Graham McTavish: was ever required in my life, fortunately.

717

00:26:52,387 --> 00:26:54,673

Marc Preston: No, no, never, never did admire the people

718

00:26:55,255 --> 00:26:56,919

Marc Preston: who do greatly.

719

00:26:57,602 --> 00:26:58,987

Marc Preston: Now, where'd you go to university to study

720

00:26:59,087 --> 00:26:59,368

Marc Preston: acting?

721

00:26:59,621 --> 00:26:59,701

Marc Preston: I?

722

00:26:59,841 --> 00:27:02,266

Graham McTavish: went to London University, queen Mary

723

00:27:02,307 --> 00:27:05,313

Graham McTavish: College, and I was very lucky.

724

00:27:07,001 --> 00:27:10,290

Graham McTavish: You know, i can look at certain points in

725

00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:13,218

Graham McTavish: my life where I've been lucky in the

726

00:27:13,278 --> 00:27:15,103

Graham McTavish: circumstances I've found myself in, and

727

00:27:15,684 --> 00:27:17,749

Graham McTavish: it's just so happened that where I went to

728

00:27:17,809 --> 00:27:22,144

Graham McTavish: college at London University, the professor

729

00:27:22,184 --> 00:27:23,692

Graham McTavish: of English I read English literature.

730

00:27:24,235 --> 00:27:26,845

Graham McTavish: The professor of English was very, very,

731

00:27:26,965 --> 00:27:30,716

Graham McTavish: very passionate about making sure that

732

00:27:30,776 --> 00:27:32,260

Graham McTavish: everybody involved themselves in putting on

733

00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:32,641

Graham McTavish: plays.

734

00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:35,366

Graham McTavish: So whether you didn't have to act in them,

735

00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:39,233

Graham McTavish: but acting them, work backstage, make

736

00:27:39,253 --> 00:27:41,226

Graham McTavish: costumes, but especially Shakespeare,

737

00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:43,234

Graham McTavish: especially Jackie B and Elizabethan drama,

738

00:27:43,897 --> 00:27:45,382

Graham McTavish: you had to put them on stage because that's

739

00:27:45,402 --> 00:27:48,009

Graham McTavish: what they were written for, and so I was

740

00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:51,225

Graham McTavish: lucky enough to be able to play many roles

741

00:27:51,887 --> 00:27:53,493

Graham McTavish: that I actually wouldn't have been able to

742

00:27:53,533 --> 00:27:54,657

Graham McTavish: play if I'd come to drama school,

743

00:27:54,921 --> 00:27:57,567

Graham McTavish: ironically enough, and so I got a lot of

744

00:27:57,908 --> 00:27:59,753

Graham McTavish: experience at university.

745

00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:00,362

Marc Preston: Oh, that's good.

746

00:28:00,382 --> 00:28:01,947

Marc Preston: That's a very interesting point where this

747

00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:04,164

Marc Preston: was actually your chosen thing initially,

748

00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,814

Marc Preston: that that would be you'd be competing

749

00:28:06,854 --> 00:28:08,340

Marc Preston: against others to maybe you get certain

750

00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,681

Marc Preston: things.

751

00:28:08,721 --> 00:28:09,323

Marc Preston: But here you can.

752

00:28:10,185 --> 00:28:11,529

Marc Preston: you're kind of put it like you mentioned

753

00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:13,783

Marc Preston: you wanted to be a writer, so you're kind

754

00:28:13,803 --> 00:28:15,916

Marc Preston: of in the ecosystem, seeing all angles of

755

00:28:15,956 --> 00:28:16,580

Marc Preston: the creative process.

756

00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,684

Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean I'd wanted.

757

00:28:19,185 --> 00:28:23,292

Graham McTavish: I developed an interest in acting after as

758

00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:25,863

Graham McTavish: I was leaving school And when I left school

759

00:28:25,923 --> 00:28:28,509

Graham McTavish: I took a year off And during that year the

760

00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:31,667

Graham McTavish: local amateur dramatics company they came

761

00:28:31,687 --> 00:28:33,775

Graham McTavish: around and leaf littered all the houses in

762

00:28:33,795 --> 00:28:35,421

Graham McTavish: the area in the days when people used to

763

00:28:35,461 --> 00:28:39,193

Graham McTavish: kind of like hand print leaflets And they

764

00:28:39,233 --> 00:28:40,999

Graham McTavish: start one through my letterbox or our

765

00:28:41,019 --> 00:28:42,811

Graham McTavish: letterbox And it was asking for young

766

00:28:42,968 --> 00:28:45,477

Graham McTavish: actors to join the local church hall

767

00:28:45,635 --> 00:28:45,955

Graham McTavish: company.

768

00:28:46,113 --> 00:28:50,990

Graham McTavish: And I showed it to my mother And I said Do

769

00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:51,392

Graham McTavish: you do?

770

00:28:51,412 --> 00:28:52,315

Graham McTavish: you think she'd do this.

771

00:28:53,217 --> 00:28:54,100

Graham McTavish: And I always, i've never forgotten her

772

00:28:54,882 --> 00:28:55,183

Graham McTavish: answer.

773

00:28:55,905 --> 00:28:57,731

Graham McTavish: She just looked to me and she said, Yeah, i

774

00:28:57,771 --> 00:29:00,459

Graham McTavish: think you should, and, and that was that.

775

00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,089

Graham McTavish: And I thought, okay, okay, and like lots of

776

00:29:04,129 --> 00:29:07,158

Graham McTavish: decisions in your life, it's, they seem

777

00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,927

Graham McTavish: have no consequence at the time, they

778

00:29:09,947 --> 00:29:10,810

Graham McTavish: really do.

779

00:29:10,910 --> 00:29:11,452

Marc Preston: Isn't that funny.

780

00:29:11,512 --> 00:29:13,399

Marc Preston: It's usually not something that it's a big

781

00:29:13,439 --> 00:29:13,660

Marc Preston: decision.

782

00:29:14,623 --> 00:29:16,349

Marc Preston: Yeah, You know, and also the ones that you

783

00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:16,810

Marc Preston: were.

784

00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:19,439

Marc Preston: You genuinely follow your intuition.

785

00:29:19,459 --> 00:29:22,432

Marc Preston: Like a Sanford Meisner said act before you

786

00:29:22,472 --> 00:29:22,693

Marc Preston: think.

787

00:29:22,733 --> 00:29:23,999

Marc Preston: Your instincts are more honest than your

788

00:29:24,019 --> 00:29:26,050

Marc Preston: thoughts, And those rare moments we like

789

00:29:26,251 --> 00:29:27,437

Marc Preston: this feels right And then you're so proud

790

00:29:27,457 --> 00:29:27,759

Marc Preston: of yourself.

791

00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:28,020

Marc Preston: It works out.

792

00:29:29,284 --> 00:29:32,834

Marc Preston: You know not, not not always, but no, no,

793

00:29:32,934 --> 00:29:33,897

Marc Preston: indeed not, no.

794

00:29:34,077 --> 00:29:35,502

Graham McTavish: But I mean, that's what primed me for me,

795

00:29:35,582 --> 00:29:37,831

Graham McTavish: for being so interested in it.

796

00:29:37,911 --> 00:29:39,658

Graham McTavish: I did a year of amateur theater, basically

797

00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:41,245

Graham McTavish: before I went to university, and then I

798

00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:44,178

Graham McTavish: just did theater all the time, all the time

799

00:29:44,352 --> 00:29:45,276

Graham McTavish: when I was there.

800

00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:45,947

Graham McTavish: So when?

801

00:29:46,809 --> 00:29:47,711

Marc Preston: you left university.

802

00:29:47,771 --> 00:29:50,178

Marc Preston: What happened from that point forward?

803

00:29:50,258 --> 00:29:52,042

Announcer: Were you, were you a quote unquote working

804

00:29:52,143 --> 00:29:54,669

Announcer: actor Or were you trying to find yourself.

805

00:29:55,411 --> 00:29:56,013

Graham McTavish: Well, it was funny.

806

00:29:56,554 --> 00:29:59,965

Graham McTavish: When I left, the idea was that I was going

807

00:29:59,985 --> 00:30:01,553

Graham McTavish: to go to drama school for a year after it

808

00:30:01,573 --> 00:30:02,316

Graham McTavish: was postgraduate.

809

00:30:02,336 --> 00:30:04,947

Graham McTavish: That was the plan, and so I auditioned for

810

00:30:04,967 --> 00:30:06,954

Graham McTavish: a number of drama schools Bristol, old Vic

811

00:30:07,074 --> 00:30:09,722

Graham McTavish: and Rada and Central and all the usual ones

812

00:30:10,364 --> 00:30:13,010

Graham McTavish: And I got into five schools.

813

00:30:14,473 --> 00:30:17,499

Graham McTavish: And then I was suddenly confronted with

814

00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:20,067

Graham McTavish: this terrible truth that I was going to

815

00:30:20,087 --> 00:30:23,498

Graham McTavish: have to pay Because I, in those days, you

816

00:30:23,538 --> 00:30:25,545

Graham McTavish: had free university education in the United

817

00:30:25,585 --> 00:30:27,772

Graham McTavish: Kingdom And so I just had three years of

818

00:30:28,374 --> 00:30:31,526

Graham McTavish: free education, and the idea of paying was

819

00:30:31,566 --> 00:30:32,952

Graham McTavish: just completely anathema to me.

820

00:30:33,012 --> 00:30:34,598

Marc Preston: So I just was considered sort of a master's

821

00:30:34,618 --> 00:30:38,169

Marc Preston: program, if you will.

822

00:30:38,229 --> 00:30:40,716

Graham McTavish: I mean I'd used up my three years, so there

823

00:30:40,756 --> 00:30:41,959

Graham McTavish: was no way I was going to pay.

824

00:30:41,979 --> 00:30:44,509

Graham McTavish: So I just said, no, no, no, i won't do that,

825

00:30:44,569 --> 00:30:45,231

Graham McTavish: i'll just.

826

00:30:45,753 --> 00:30:46,958

Graham McTavish: I'll just do a one man show.

827

00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,787

Graham McTavish: So I did Samuel Beckett's Craps, last Tape,

828

00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,135

Graham McTavish: and my girlfriend and I took it around to

829

00:30:52,216 --> 00:30:55,005

Graham McTavish: pubs all over London to get my equity card.

830

00:30:55,628 --> 00:30:57,395

Graham McTavish: And that's what I did.

831

00:30:57,415 --> 00:30:58,479

Marc Preston: I got my equity card And then you can get

832

00:30:58,499 --> 00:31:01,267

Marc Preston: your equity card by doing performances of

833

00:31:01,287 --> 00:31:02,209

Marc Preston: pubs Really.

834

00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:05,318

Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because because it

835

00:31:05,338 --> 00:31:09,930

Graham McTavish: was a one man show, it was a loophole in

836

00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:12,698

Graham McTavish: equity that it counted as a variety act And

837

00:31:12,738 --> 00:31:15,226

Graham McTavish: as a variety act you could pretty much

838

00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:16,049

Graham McTavish: perform it anywhere.

839

00:31:16,712 --> 00:31:17,977

Graham McTavish: And so I did it And I just had to get a, i

840

00:31:17,997 --> 00:31:21,086

Graham McTavish: just had to be paid And I had to prove that

841

00:31:21,106 --> 00:31:21,688

Graham McTavish: I'd been paid.

842

00:31:22,069 --> 00:31:24,717

Graham McTavish: And then I was a professional actor And,

843

00:31:24,737 --> 00:31:29,455

Graham McTavish: like a lot of things, certainly in my case,

844

00:31:29,475 --> 00:31:30,359

Graham McTavish: it has been a great advantage to not know

845

00:31:30,379 --> 00:31:34,131

Graham McTavish: what I'm doing, just to be completely

846

00:31:34,231 --> 00:31:34,592

Graham McTavish: ignorant.

847

00:31:34,612 --> 00:31:36,118

Graham McTavish: And and just isn't it funny when you reach

848

00:31:36,138 --> 00:31:38,266

Graham McTavish: this age and you look back going.

849

00:31:38,286 --> 00:31:40,414

Marc Preston: If I had cognition of how many things could

850

00:31:40,495 --> 00:31:41,539

Marc Preston: go wrong or different snicker, I never

851

00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:42,342

Marc Preston: would have done it.

852

00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:42,944

Marc Preston: I would never have.

853

00:31:43,044 --> 00:31:45,133

Graham McTavish: I'd never have moved to America, i would

854

00:31:45,253 --> 00:31:46,417

Graham McTavish: never have gone into acting.

855

00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:49,750

Graham McTavish: I would never, i mean.

856

00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:50,794

Graham McTavish: So I was just contacting theaters.

857

00:31:50,874 --> 00:31:52,319

Graham McTavish: I was just ringing them up in the days

858

00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,087

Graham McTavish: where they weren't casting directors then

859

00:31:54,207 --> 00:31:55,152

Graham McTavish: in theater.

860

00:31:55,172 --> 00:31:56,880

Graham McTavish: So you just ring up and you talk to the

861

00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:02,393

Graham McTavish: director And you just say, oh hello, i'm

862

00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:04,579

Graham McTavish: Graham, i'm, i'm, i want, i'm an actor.

863

00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:07,953

Graham McTavish: Are you casting anything at the moment that

864

00:32:07,973 --> 00:32:08,495

Graham McTavish: I could be right for?

865

00:32:08,515 --> 00:32:09,439

Graham McTavish: And they say, oh, yeah, well, send in your

866

00:32:09,459 --> 00:32:11,950

Graham McTavish: stuff, what do you think you could be good

867

00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:12,090

Graham McTavish: for?

868

00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:13,155

Graham McTavish: And you send them in, and some of them

869

00:32:13,175 --> 00:32:17,390

Graham McTavish: would ring you up and go, yes, we'd like

870

00:32:17,410 --> 00:32:18,553

Graham McTavish: you to come in, and some of them you'd

871

00:32:18,593 --> 00:32:19,316

Graham McTavish: never hear from again.

872

00:32:19,396 --> 00:32:24,188

Graham McTavish: But I had no, i had no inhibitions at all.

873

00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:28,296

Graham McTavish: I was just like, yeah, like ridiculously

874

00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,561

Graham McTavish: confident, with no basis for that

875

00:32:30,601 --> 00:32:31,062

Graham McTavish: confidence.

876

00:32:32,044 --> 00:32:34,389

Marc Preston: So well, that's being your 20s, isn't it?

877

00:32:34,489 --> 00:32:36,493

Marc Preston: You know the name of the game.

878

00:32:36,513 --> 00:32:37,922

Marc Preston: I saw a quote the other day.

879

00:32:37,963 --> 00:32:40,529

Marc Preston: It said if you are at this age and you're

880

00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:42,424

Marc Preston: looking back on your younger self and you

881

00:32:42,444 --> 00:32:44,011

Marc Preston: don't go, god, i was such a knucklehead.

882

00:32:44,734 --> 00:32:45,578

Marc Preston: You're still a knucklehead.

883

00:32:45,859 --> 00:32:47,344

Marc Preston: You know it because.

884

00:32:47,444 --> 00:32:48,528

Marc Preston: But that's part of the process.

885

00:32:48,548 --> 00:32:51,237

Marc Preston: You got to go through it to learn, to

886

00:32:51,318 --> 00:32:52,000

Marc Preston: discover yourself.

887

00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:57,092

Graham McTavish: I think Yes yes, yes, and you know we, we

888

00:32:57,133 --> 00:32:59,659

Graham McTavish: ended I ended up, you know, doing doing

889

00:32:59,719 --> 00:33:02,707

Graham McTavish: some acting roles And but I wanted more

890

00:33:02,927 --> 00:33:03,729

Graham McTavish: exposure.

891

00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:07,198

Graham McTavish: So myself and a friend, we'd done Edward

892

00:33:07,238 --> 00:33:09,684

Graham McTavish: Albee's The Zoo Story together, the

893

00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:11,548

Graham McTavish: Edinburgh Festival, and we were looking for

894

00:33:11,588 --> 00:33:12,510

Graham McTavish: another two man show.

895

00:33:12,571 --> 00:33:15,206

Graham McTavish: So we wrote a play about Vincent van Gogh

896

00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:17,494

Graham McTavish: based on the letters between the two of

897

00:33:17,514 --> 00:33:19,962

Graham McTavish: them, and we persuaded the National Gallery

898

00:33:19,982 --> 00:33:20,925

Graham McTavish: in London to put it on.

899

00:33:21,988 --> 00:33:25,439

Graham McTavish: And then that led to a very long story we

900

00:33:25,479 --> 00:33:27,927

Graham McTavish: haven't got time for, but that led to a

901

00:33:27,987 --> 00:33:30,597

Graham McTavish: tour of America, three tours of America and

902

00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:31,881

Graham McTavish: abroad, and blah, blah, blah, blah and all

903

00:33:31,901 --> 00:33:32,282

Graham McTavish: the rest of it.

904

00:33:32,623 --> 00:33:35,993

Graham McTavish: But again, you know, if I started that

905

00:33:36,034 --> 00:33:41,246

Graham McTavish: process with the goal of touring America, i

906

00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:43,470

Graham McTavish: would have been paralyzed, but all I wanted

907

00:33:43,490 --> 00:33:45,934

Graham McTavish: to do was get people to be able to see me

908

00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:46,301

Graham McTavish: act.

909

00:33:47,303 --> 00:33:49,147

Graham McTavish: So we, you know, rather than rely on

910

00:33:49,187 --> 00:33:51,231

Graham McTavish: somebody else to give me the job, i wrote

911

00:33:51,291 --> 00:33:54,685

Graham McTavish: the job for myself And please come and see

912

00:33:54,725 --> 00:33:54,825

Graham McTavish: me.

913

00:33:55,506 --> 00:33:57,290

Graham McTavish: So it's a kind of arrogance mixed with

914

00:33:57,370 --> 00:33:57,871

Graham McTavish: naivety.

915

00:33:58,372 --> 00:33:59,966

Marc Preston: Your name, you know you talked about that

916

00:34:00,006 --> 00:34:00,691

Marc Preston: thing when you're younger.

917

00:34:00,711 --> 00:34:02,542

Marc Preston: If you don't know what you're stepping into

918

00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:02,783

Marc Preston: that's.

919

00:34:02,803 --> 00:34:05,013

Marc Preston: That's a good thing, because you can more

920

00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:06,640

Marc Preston: add, i think more effectively follow your

921

00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:08,984

Marc Preston: goals, dreams, aspirations without any

922

00:34:09,265 --> 00:34:10,788

Marc Preston: hindrances of common sense.

923

00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:15,404

Marc Preston: Yes yes, not having common sense for sure.

924

00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:16,851

Marc Preston: Now, where did you land when you got to

925

00:34:16,891 --> 00:34:17,273

Marc Preston: America?

926

00:34:17,313 --> 00:34:17,836

Marc Preston: Where was it?

927

00:34:17,876 --> 00:34:19,341

Marc Preston: Where did you post up first, to kind of

928

00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:19,622

Marc Preston: start?

929

00:34:20,103 --> 00:34:21,506

Graham McTavish: Birmingham, alabama.

930

00:34:21,806 --> 00:34:22,929

Marc Preston: Birmingham, Alabama.

931

00:34:23,229 --> 00:34:23,690

Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah.

932

00:34:23,891 --> 00:34:27,944

Graham McTavish: Well, we organized a tour, so we had done,

933

00:34:29,127 --> 00:34:31,654

Graham McTavish: we had managed to get all of these art

934

00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:34,242

Graham McTavish: institutions in America because we done it

935

00:34:34,302 --> 00:34:36,651

Graham McTavish: at the National Gallery in London to book

936

00:34:36,732 --> 00:34:36,812

Graham McTavish: us.

937

00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:38,740

Graham McTavish: So we did the Metropolitan Museum of Art in

938

00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,306

Graham McTavish: New York, we did the Art Institute of

939

00:34:40,346 --> 00:34:43,577

Graham McTavish: Chicago, LA County Museum, chicago.

940

00:34:43,597 --> 00:34:45,062

Graham McTavish: You know, we're Cleveland, we did it

941

00:34:45,162 --> 00:34:45,524

Graham McTavish: everywhere.

942

00:34:45,945 --> 00:34:47,851

Graham McTavish: But the first place was Birmingham, alabama,

943

00:34:48,614 --> 00:34:50,199

Graham McTavish: and it was fantastic.

944

00:34:50,219 --> 00:34:52,443

Graham McTavish: I mean that was 1987.

945

00:34:53,484 --> 00:34:55,427

Graham McTavish: And it was.

946

00:34:56,468 --> 00:34:57,990

Graham McTavish: I mean we would, i was 26.

947

00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:02,216

Graham McTavish: We just we arrived, we'd made all the props,

948

00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:04,766

Graham McTavish: my friend had painted reproductions of Van

949

00:35:04,787 --> 00:35:06,290

Graham McTavish: Gogh's work because he was, he was a great

950

00:35:06,431 --> 00:35:08,944

Graham McTavish: artist, my friend is a great artist.

951

00:35:09,686 --> 00:35:14,176

Graham McTavish: And we just we started there And we were

952

00:35:14,196 --> 00:35:15,218

Graham McTavish: going to New York next.

953

00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,334

Graham McTavish: And I remember When we told the people in

954

00:35:18,635 --> 00:35:20,140

Graham McTavish: Alabama that we were going to New York,

955

00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,318

Graham McTavish: they, they, what they said oh, you want to

956

00:35:22,338 --> 00:35:25,233

Graham McTavish: be careful, you want to be careful, yankees

957

00:35:25,313 --> 00:35:25,614

Graham McTavish: up there.

958

00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:27,855

Marc Preston: Birmingham has a little more of an artsy

959

00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:30,051

Marc Preston: scene, more of a restaurant, you know like

960

00:35:30,451 --> 00:35:30,552

Marc Preston: it.

961

00:35:30,592 --> 00:35:33,037

Marc Preston: You know artsy people, from a way I

962

00:35:33,077 --> 00:35:35,321

Marc Preston: understand, gravitate to that, to that town.

963

00:35:35,762 --> 00:35:37,112

Graham McTavish: Yeah, It was a.

964

00:35:37,453 --> 00:35:38,578

Graham McTavish: it was a fun experience.

965

00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:39,350

Marc Preston: Now.

966

00:35:39,792 --> 00:35:42,379

Marc Preston: So you ended up in New York, i'm assuming.

967

00:35:42,499 --> 00:35:43,971

Marc Preston: Based on the work you were doing, did you

968

00:35:44,031 --> 00:35:45,716

Marc Preston: also head to LA and live there?

969

00:35:45,737 --> 00:35:49,617

Marc Preston: for a live in LA, no no, no, we didn't.

970

00:35:49,737 --> 00:35:51,802

Graham McTavish: We didn't really live in America.

971

00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:56,458

Graham McTavish: We toured America, so that was, that was

972

00:35:56,498 --> 00:35:56,960

Graham McTavish: what we did.

973

00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,596

Graham McTavish: So we would go out there, in because

974

00:35:59,656 --> 00:36:01,581

Graham McTavish: Britain was so miserable in January,

975

00:36:01,641 --> 00:36:02,423

Graham McTavish: february, march.

976

00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:05,397

Graham McTavish: We would just construct tours to take us

977

00:36:05,457 --> 00:36:07,342

Graham McTavish: out of the country every January, february,

978

00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:07,602

Graham McTavish: march.

979

00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:09,295

Graham McTavish: So we went to America.

980

00:36:09,797 --> 00:36:10,619

Graham McTavish: We went there three times.

981

00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:12,116

Graham McTavish: We went to Australia in January, february,

982

00:36:12,176 --> 00:36:12,357

Graham McTavish: march.

983

00:36:12,731 --> 00:36:13,875

Graham McTavish: So we were always somewhere warm.

984

00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:17,052

Graham McTavish: That was, that was the goal It was.

985

00:36:17,353 --> 00:36:18,836

Marc Preston: That's the one thing that would keep me

986

00:36:18,917 --> 00:36:19,378

Marc Preston: from wanting it.

987

00:36:19,538 --> 00:36:21,632

Marc Preston: Just, it always seems gray and cold and

988

00:36:21,672 --> 00:36:23,277

Marc Preston: rainy, but it's such beautiful, both

989

00:36:23,457 --> 00:36:25,252

Marc Preston: Scotland and Ireland, And it just.

990

00:36:26,075 --> 00:36:27,621

Marc Preston: You look at that part of the world, it's

991

00:36:27,641 --> 00:36:29,990

Marc Preston: just green and rolling hills.

992

00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:31,837

Marc Preston: And it's just absolutely stunningly

993

00:36:31,897 --> 00:36:32,278

Marc Preston: beautiful.

994

00:36:32,810 --> 00:36:34,374

Marc Preston: And, of course, you know, seeing y'all

995

00:36:34,394 --> 00:36:36,620

Marc Preston: doing your road trip in that van, which is,

996

00:36:37,141 --> 00:36:38,715

Marc Preston: you know, you and Sam, of course kind of

997

00:36:38,756 --> 00:36:38,916

Marc Preston: open.

998

00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:40,336

Marc Preston: I want to watch some of the rest of it

999

00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:41,032

Marc Preston: Because I want to.

00:36:41,353 --> 00:36:43,017

Marc Preston: I want to dial in a little bit more of my

00:36:43,097 --> 00:36:45,754

Marc Preston: Scottish lineage, understand a little bit

00:36:45,814 --> 00:36:46,055

Marc Preston: more.

00:36:46,336 --> 00:36:47,099

Graham McTavish: You'll understand.

00:36:47,331 --> 00:36:47,572

Marc Preston: Yes.

00:36:47,974 --> 00:36:50,535

Graham McTavish: Yes, the the feuding nature of the Scots.

00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,702

Graham McTavish: You know, the days never complete unless

00:36:53,743 --> 00:36:55,756

Graham McTavish: they're they're feuding with somebody else.

00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,397

Graham McTavish: It's, it's a reMarcable talent that they

00:36:59,457 --> 00:37:01,482

Graham McTavish: have, which they exported to America, of

00:37:01,542 --> 00:37:05,540

Graham McTavish: course, with Hatfields and McCoys, and you

00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,648

Graham McTavish: know they, they, yeah, they're Scottish.

00:37:08,129 --> 00:37:09,532

Graham McTavish: You know they just went there and

00:37:11,016 --> 00:37:12,839

Graham McTavish: replicated what they'd been doing in

00:37:12,899 --> 00:37:14,302

Graham McTavish: Scotland for hundreds of years.

00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:17,977

Marc Preston: They're a very tenacious, tenacious clan,

00:37:18,538 --> 00:37:19,661

Marc Preston: or clans rather.

00:37:19,822 --> 00:37:21,556

Marc Preston: Yes, but one of the things I'm curious

00:37:21,576 --> 00:37:23,845

Marc Preston: about I totally forgot you did this but

00:37:24,608 --> 00:37:27,017

Marc Preston: back in the early 2000s love watching 24.

00:37:27,451 --> 00:37:29,662

Marc Preston: And you had your kind of your swing on 24,

00:37:29,682 --> 00:37:31,190

Marc Preston: you're a bad Russian dude, yeah.

00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:32,790

Marc Preston: So what was that experience like?

00:37:32,911 --> 00:37:34,620

Marc Preston: Any you know, you're the third or fourth

00:37:35,022 --> 00:37:36,630

Marc Preston: gentleman I've spoken with who was on 24.

00:37:36,752 --> 00:37:36,955

Announcer: What was?

00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:37,890

Marc Preston: that experience like.

00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:40,162

Marc Preston: That seemed like a fast paced kind of

00:37:40,223 --> 00:37:40,786

Marc Preston: experience.

00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:43,878

Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i mean, i love I was a massive

00:37:43,938 --> 00:37:46,667

Graham McTavish: fan of 24, a massive fan which I kept

00:37:46,707 --> 00:37:49,315

Graham McTavish: embarrassing myself with on set constantly

00:37:49,355 --> 00:37:51,260

Graham McTavish: telling the users how much of a fan I was

00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,701

Graham McTavish: at the show.

00:37:52,191 --> 00:37:53,160

Graham McTavish: It got to the point where they were going

00:37:53,181 --> 00:37:54,170

Graham McTavish: yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:55,797

Graham McTavish: Ok, graham, we, we, we get it.

00:37:56,350 --> 00:37:58,879

Graham McTavish: We just need you to become Mikhail

00:37:58,999 --> 00:38:01,868

Graham McTavish: Novakovich now and be the Russian

00:38:01,929 --> 00:38:02,330

Graham McTavish: ambassador.

00:38:02,491 --> 00:38:04,158

Graham McTavish: Don't, don't, don't talk about your fandom,

00:38:05,571 --> 00:38:07,713

Graham McTavish: but it was, it was great, i mean, it's it,

00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:08,334

Graham McTavish: it.

00:38:09,337 --> 00:38:13,227

Graham McTavish: I think people forget how revolutionary 24

00:38:13,308 --> 00:38:14,673

Graham McTavish: was, Yeah That.

00:38:14,915 --> 00:38:17,309

Marc Preston: I think that's before streaming, of course.

00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:17,410

Graham McTavish: Yeah.

00:38:17,893 --> 00:38:20,789

Marc Preston: Before before, as many options have been 24.

00:38:21,314 --> 00:38:23,190

Marc Preston: That was appointment TV right there.

00:38:25,077 --> 00:38:26,020

Graham McTavish: Oh yeah.

00:38:26,673 --> 00:38:27,257

Marc Preston: I mean I was, i don't.

00:38:27,358 --> 00:38:28,910

Marc Preston: I mean what shows are out there now?

00:38:29,311 --> 00:38:31,179

Marc Preston: It may have course like Game of Thrones and

00:38:32,082 --> 00:38:34,652

Marc Preston: you know, things like that, which I still I

00:38:34,672 --> 00:38:35,274

Marc Preston: have to admit.

00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:36,819

Marc Preston: I was speaking with somebody the other day.

00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:38,574

Marc Preston: I said I you know, there's just some,

00:38:38,594 --> 00:38:40,158

Marc Preston: there's so much stuff out there now.

00:38:40,259 --> 00:38:41,602

Marc Preston: Yes, there are things I'll miss.

00:38:41,870 --> 00:38:43,214

Marc Preston: And so and so.

00:38:43,394 --> 00:38:45,600

Marc Preston: No, yeah, i'm, I'm planning on, i'm waiting,

00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:47,558

Marc Preston: because I got two children in college.

00:38:47,618 --> 00:38:49,311

Marc Preston: Now one's about to do their gap year, so

00:38:49,371 --> 00:38:51,318

Marc Preston: finally the TV gets to be 100 percent mine

00:38:51,338 --> 00:38:51,759

Marc Preston: to watch.

00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,058

Graham McTavish: You know there's so much.

00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,756

Graham McTavish: So you know, in the time that you're

00:38:56,776 --> 00:38:59,923

Graham McTavish: waiting to watch you know eight seasons of

00:39:00,731 --> 00:39:02,815

Graham McTavish: Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon,

00:39:03,817 --> 00:39:07,183

Graham McTavish: you will you'll be having other shows that

00:39:07,203 --> 00:39:07,904

Graham McTavish: you'll want to watch.

00:39:08,224 --> 00:39:09,473

Graham McTavish: Yeah, you know, i've never seen the wire.

00:39:10,095 --> 00:39:11,219

Graham McTavish: You know everyone's always going.

00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,914

Marc Preston: Neither have I And again I go back to

00:39:12,954 --> 00:39:14,058

Marc Preston: Anthony Bourdain mentioned that.

00:39:14,271 --> 00:39:15,294

Marc Preston: I think he said that was one of his

00:39:15,335 --> 00:39:16,238

Marc Preston: favorite shows ever.

00:39:17,332 --> 00:39:18,577

Marc Preston: The same production team did.

00:39:18,851 --> 00:39:19,936

Marc Preston: I was down in New Orleans.

00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:22,662

Marc Preston: They were shooting Treme Treme.

00:39:22,682 --> 00:39:23,145

Marc Preston: Can you say?

00:39:23,165 --> 00:39:23,305

Announcer: that.

00:39:23,325 --> 00:39:25,834

Marc Preston: They've never seen that either, and in fact

00:39:25,874 --> 00:39:26,275

Marc Preston: I saw your.

00:39:26,295 --> 00:39:28,540

Marc Preston: I auditioned for Preacher a few times.

00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,034

Marc Preston: I saw you were in that And I didn't get

00:39:31,155 --> 00:39:32,679

Marc Preston: more than trying to remember what did you

00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,461

Marc Preston: do in Preacher.

00:39:33,550 --> 00:39:34,374

Marc Preston: I'm trying to remember.

00:39:34,671 --> 00:39:35,936

Marc Preston: I was the saint of killers.

00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:38,096

Marc Preston: I've only gotten in like two or three

00:39:38,137 --> 00:39:39,837

Marc Preston: episodes into that show, so I need to go

00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:40,483

Marc Preston: further in.

00:39:40,786 --> 00:39:42,373

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, so the saint of killers.

00:39:43,034 --> 00:39:45,661

Graham McTavish: It was literally a dream for me to do that

00:39:45,721 --> 00:39:48,236

Graham McTavish: role, because I loved the graphic novels

00:39:48,737 --> 00:39:49,580

Graham McTavish: and I loved him.

00:39:51,010 --> 00:39:54,217

Graham McTavish: So he's yeah, i mean, look, you know,

00:39:54,237 --> 00:39:55,599

Graham McTavish: playing a character called the saint of

00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:55,980

Graham McTavish: killers.

00:39:57,002 --> 00:39:57,784

Graham McTavish: Yeah, it's going to be fun.

00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:59,657

Graham McTavish: So we're, we're, we're the ball.

00:40:00,371 --> 00:40:00,551

Marc Preston: I do.

00:40:00,652 --> 00:40:02,658

Marc Preston: I do have to ask, being a part of the

00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,806

Marc Preston: Hobbit and the Peter Jackson ecosystem,

00:40:05,387 --> 00:40:06,130

Marc Preston: what was that like?

00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:08,057

Marc Preston: What was it comparatively to the other

00:40:08,117 --> 00:40:08,859

Marc Preston: stuff you've done?

00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:10,835

Marc Preston: You know what, what, what, how has that

00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:14,003

Marc Preston: experience any different or unique and fine,

00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:18,619

Marc Preston: oh, well, certainly, up to that point, i'd

00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,564

Marc Preston: never experienced anything like it.

00:40:20,650 --> 00:40:24,099

Graham McTavish: I don't think any of us had just the sheer

00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,723

Graham McTavish: scale of it.

00:40:26,131 --> 00:40:28,639

Graham McTavish: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a juggernaut,

00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,321

Graham McTavish: it's enormous.

00:40:30,711 --> 00:40:31,613

Graham McTavish: So, you know, we shot.

00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:33,197

Graham McTavish: I can't even remember how many hundreds of

00:40:33,237 --> 00:40:35,382

Graham McTavish: days that we shot on it over two and a half

00:40:35,422 --> 00:40:35,683

Graham McTavish: years.

00:40:36,850 --> 00:40:40,175

Graham McTavish: But you, you, you became a sort of family,

00:40:40,596 --> 00:40:44,141

Graham McTavish: especially the dwarves, because you were

00:40:44,402 --> 00:40:47,992

Graham McTavish: uniquely clad in all of this stuff, the

00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,402

Graham McTavish: prosthetics and the costumes which you know.

00:40:50,422 --> 00:40:53,314

Graham McTavish: My costume weighed nearly 70 pounds, so it

00:40:53,374 --> 00:40:53,514

Graham McTavish: was.

00:40:53,755 --> 00:40:55,400

Graham McTavish: It was like running around with a person on

00:40:55,421 --> 00:40:55,782

Graham McTavish: your back.

00:40:56,952 --> 00:40:57,373

Graham McTavish: So it was.

00:40:57,473 --> 00:41:01,162

Graham McTavish: It was a very intense experience, but but

00:41:01,342 --> 00:41:02,224

Graham McTavish: truly wonderful.

00:41:03,851 --> 00:41:06,015

Graham McTavish: I remember, you know, any time that you

00:41:06,055 --> 00:41:09,581

Graham McTavish: would be feel tired or fatigued or you just

00:41:09,621 --> 00:41:11,784

Graham McTavish: wanted to go home, i would remind myself

00:41:11,824 --> 00:41:13,066

Graham McTavish: how lucky I was to be there.

00:41:13,955 --> 00:41:14,900

Graham McTavish: And it was.

00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:16,387

Graham McTavish: It was an amazing experience, yeah.

00:41:17,633 --> 00:41:19,421

Marc Preston: I need to get to New Zealand and just I,

00:41:19,441 --> 00:41:20,927

Marc Preston: just it's one of the places it's such a

00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:23,337

Marc Preston: it's such a it's such a unique history too.

00:41:23,590 --> 00:41:24,513

Announcer: It's a beautiful place.

00:41:24,694 --> 00:41:25,617

Marc Preston: It's an incredible country.

00:41:25,657 --> 00:41:28,552

Marc Preston: Yeah, you should go, but of course you are.

00:41:28,632 --> 00:41:30,555

Marc Preston: you are my Sherpa of all things, scotland,

00:41:30,795 --> 00:41:31,056

Marc Preston: you know.

00:41:31,076 --> 00:41:32,478

Marc Preston: so I'm going to be, you know, because I'm

00:41:32,498 --> 00:41:33,780

Marc Preston: going to be watching the show, like

00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:35,964

Marc Preston: afterwards going it, you know, i learned a

00:41:36,024 --> 00:41:36,505

Marc Preston: new thing.

00:41:36,971 --> 00:41:39,076

Marc Preston: So the, the Men and Kilt, are y'all coming

00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:40,961

Marc Preston: out with a new season of that soon, or is

00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:41,222

Marc Preston: that?

00:41:42,690 --> 00:41:46,160

Graham McTavish: August the 11th is when it starts on stars.

00:41:47,552 --> 00:41:51,457

Graham McTavish: We begin there, and the book that deals

00:41:51,657 --> 00:41:55,082

Graham McTavish: with the experience of shooting that show

00:41:55,182 --> 00:41:57,646

Graham McTavish: in New Zealand, clanlands in New Zealand,

00:41:58,227 --> 00:41:59,609

Graham McTavish: is published on November the 7th.

00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:01,856

Marc Preston: So Okay, so the book is very good.

00:42:01,896 --> 00:42:04,774

Marc Preston: Yeah, that's, that's because I so want to

00:42:04,834 --> 00:42:05,615

Marc Preston: learn a little bit more.

00:42:05,675 --> 00:42:06,937

Marc Preston: Because, like I said, i went down that

00:42:06,997 --> 00:42:09,241

Marc Preston: rabbit hole and realized, oh, my family,

00:42:09,421 --> 00:42:11,164

Marc Preston: many, many, many, i think 16 great

00:42:11,184 --> 00:42:13,427

Marc Preston: grandfathers back was the one who, maybe a

00:42:13,447 --> 00:42:15,410

Marc Preston: little bit more, financed the Mayflower.

00:42:15,712 --> 00:42:16,496

Marc Preston: That's kind of a.

00:42:17,342 --> 00:42:19,211

Marc Preston: It probably goes further back than that I

00:42:19,452 --> 00:42:20,294

Marc Preston: buy a lot of track.

00:42:20,314 --> 00:42:22,099

Graham McTavish: but it was such an interesting to be able

00:42:22,139 --> 00:42:24,846

Graham McTavish: to draw a line between then and now and go,

00:42:24,966 --> 00:42:27,134

Graham McTavish: wow, that's, i know I know, i know It's a

00:42:27,556 --> 00:42:29,326

Graham McTavish: yeah, we've written a couple of three, but

00:42:29,346 --> 00:42:31,219

Graham McTavish: this is the third book, so we wrote one on

00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,093

Graham McTavish: the first season as well And then we did

00:42:33,113 --> 00:42:33,736

Graham McTavish: the now Menach.

00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:36,340

Graham McTavish: But they, you know, the first one covers

00:42:36,455 --> 00:42:38,535

Graham McTavish: Scotland and our experience in Scotland,

00:42:38,555 --> 00:42:40,922

Graham McTavish: and this one covers our experience in New

00:42:40,942 --> 00:42:42,768

Graham McTavish: Zealand and their history and their

00:42:42,788 --> 00:42:43,510

Graham McTavish: connection with Scotland.

00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:45,583

Marc Preston: Now are y'all.

00:42:45,643 --> 00:42:46,650

Marc Preston: Are you working on anything else right now,

00:42:47,957 --> 00:42:49,284

Marc Preston: or is that they have any new shows that are

00:42:49,324 --> 00:42:50,350

Marc Preston: going to be rolling out?

00:42:51,312 --> 00:42:54,277

Graham McTavish: Well, i've just been to the premiere of a

00:42:54,338 --> 00:42:56,141

Graham McTavish: nice independent movie that I did in

00:42:56,181 --> 00:42:57,363

Graham McTavish: Montana last year.

00:42:58,365 --> 00:43:00,489

Graham McTavish: that is due for release next year, i

00:43:00,509 --> 00:43:00,730

Graham McTavish: believe.

00:43:00,750 --> 00:43:01,748

Graham McTavish: Yes, that's when it's going to be.

00:43:01,911 --> 00:43:03,263

Graham McTavish: Well, that's another part of that.

00:43:03,283 --> 00:43:05,498

Marc Preston: That's actually a part of the US That,

00:43:06,041 --> 00:43:07,247

Marc Preston: depending where you are, might remind you a

00:43:07,267 --> 00:43:07,910

Marc Preston: little bit more of Scotland, just

00:43:08,153 --> 00:43:09,444

Marc Preston: graphically, you know.

00:43:09,687 --> 00:43:11,750

Graham McTavish: Yes, and a big Scottish connection there,

00:43:12,934 --> 00:43:14,940

Graham McTavish: actually, i found with the McDonald's,

00:43:15,261 --> 00:43:16,946

Graham McTavish: interestingly enough, but it's called

00:43:16,986 --> 00:43:18,250

Graham McTavish: Somewhere in Montana, so that's coming out.

00:43:19,955 --> 00:43:22,562

Graham McTavish: And then we start shooting on season four

00:43:23,144 --> 00:43:26,660

Graham McTavish: of The Witcher later in the year, So that's

00:43:26,861 --> 00:43:27,869

Graham McTavish: that's that's coming out.

00:43:30,434 --> 00:43:33,038

Graham McTavish: And I worked on Love, death and Robots for

00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,726

Graham McTavish: Netflix, which will be coming out I guess

00:43:38,747 --> 00:43:41,686

Graham McTavish: later this year, maybe early next year, i'm

00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:41,969

Graham McTavish: not sure.

00:43:42,111 --> 00:43:43,390

Marc Preston: And I'm doing an independent.

00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:44,484

Graham McTavish: It seems like you're you're.

00:43:44,536 --> 00:43:46,178

Marc Preston: you're working nonstop, though It sounds

00:43:46,198 --> 00:43:47,101

Marc Preston: like you're you're very.

00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:48,953

Marc Preston: Yeah well, it can be.

00:43:49,013 --> 00:43:51,058

Marc Preston: It can be rigorous, though, you know, from

00:43:51,299 --> 00:43:52,422

Marc Preston: one project to travel.

00:43:53,031 --> 00:43:54,978

Graham McTavish: The travel is the hard thing for me now

00:43:55,610 --> 00:43:55,730

Graham McTavish: It's.

00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:56,451

Graham McTavish: It's brutal.

00:43:56,851 --> 00:43:58,532

Graham McTavish: Having Kevin kids in New Zealand doesn't

00:43:58,572 --> 00:43:58,772

Graham McTavish: help.

00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,523

Marc Preston: But before we get going, i like to ask what

00:44:07,563 --> 00:44:10,008

Marc Preston: I call my seven questions, and it's a

00:44:10,068 --> 00:44:11,420

Marc Preston: question that Diane asked the whole time.

00:44:11,495 --> 00:44:14,364

Marc Preston: The first one is what your favorite comfort

00:44:14,464 --> 00:44:16,198

Marc Preston: food is, and that really dovetails into

00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:17,863

Marc Preston: something I'm curious about.

00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:19,920

Marc Preston: It could be the same thing or be something

00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,261

Marc Preston: different.

00:44:21,417 --> 00:44:23,185

Marc Preston: Growing up, if somebody say, oh yeah, you

00:44:23,225 --> 00:44:25,355

Marc Preston: had that all the time and, scott, i'm from

00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:27,840

Marc Preston: Texas and elsewhere they don't think of

00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,885

Marc Preston: having chicken fried steak in the morning

00:44:30,245 --> 00:44:30,766

Marc Preston: with eggs.

00:44:30,806 --> 00:44:32,760

Marc Preston: You know, i think it's something in Texas,

00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:33,343

Marc Preston: depending where you are.

00:44:33,815 --> 00:44:36,622

Marc Preston: Comfort food yeah, cheese, oh, cheese,

00:44:36,882 --> 00:44:37,203

Marc Preston: cheese.

00:44:38,125 --> 00:44:40,058

Marc Preston: I love cheese, partial to any particular

00:44:40,099 --> 00:44:40,420

Marc Preston: cheese.

00:44:40,916 --> 00:44:43,423

Graham McTavish: I'm pretty, you know I'm pretty Catholic in

00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:44,326

Graham McTavish: my tastes of cheese.

00:44:44,595 --> 00:44:46,081

Graham McTavish: I'll eat pretty much any cheese.

00:44:47,295 --> 00:44:49,100

Graham McTavish: I used to sit in front of the TV when I was

00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,587

Graham McTavish: a kid with just a block of cheese and just

00:44:51,795 --> 00:44:52,679

Graham McTavish: eat my way through it.

00:44:54,175 --> 00:44:56,062

Graham McTavish: So yes, it's a very strong connection to my

00:44:56,102 --> 00:44:56,483

Graham McTavish: childhood.

00:44:57,397 --> 00:44:58,923

Marc Preston: Yeah, i think I did an okay job with my

00:44:58,963 --> 00:44:59,164

Marc Preston: kids.

00:44:59,215 --> 00:45:01,286

Marc Preston: We'll go to Whole Foods and we'll go to the

00:45:01,306 --> 00:45:02,855

Marc Preston: cheese section, and they'll be totally okay

00:45:02,975 --> 00:45:05,223

Marc Preston: getting the funkiest, stinkiest, runniest

00:45:05,243 --> 00:45:05,443

Marc Preston: cheese.

00:45:06,055 --> 00:45:07,864

Marc Preston: They understand that the smellier it is,

00:45:07,884 --> 00:45:09,311

Marc Preston: the more interesting the taste will be, and

00:45:09,693 --> 00:45:11,180

Marc Preston: sometimes it shocks me the stuff they'll

00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:11,341

Marc Preston: eat.

00:45:11,575 --> 00:45:13,801

Marc Preston: But as I've gotten older, though, i'm like

00:45:13,841 --> 00:45:15,105

Marc Preston: keeping an eye on the cholesterol, so I'm

00:45:15,125 --> 00:45:15,646

Marc Preston: like I don't know.

00:45:15,975 --> 00:45:17,278

Marc Preston: It's like you know some things you got to

00:45:17,298 --> 00:45:20,486

Marc Preston: let just let go and do it Exactly, Exactly

00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:23,199

Marc Preston: Now, real quick, like if you were to say

00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:25,064

Marc Preston: Scotland, though, what would they mean

00:45:25,185 --> 00:45:26,957

Marc Preston: outside of Haggis or Benito's Haggis?

00:45:27,158 --> 00:45:29,063

Marc Preston: but what is something that is pretty

00:45:29,164 --> 00:45:29,685

Marc Preston: ubiquitous.

00:45:30,135 --> 00:45:31,878

Marc Preston: Everybody had it either as a dinner item,

00:45:32,499 --> 00:45:35,605

Marc Preston: something for breakfast Kippers Ah, okay,

00:45:35,966 --> 00:45:37,048

Marc Preston: Smoked kippers, right.

00:45:37,068 --> 00:45:39,198

Graham McTavish: Kippers yes, My father used to stink the

00:45:39,238 --> 00:45:41,365

Graham McTavish: kitchen out regularly with smoked kippers.

00:45:42,758 --> 00:45:45,064

Marc Preston: Well, that's a fantastic and that they are

00:45:45,224 --> 00:45:46,267

Marc Preston: kind of the same way in Holland.

00:45:46,355 --> 00:45:47,559

Marc Preston: I think they love their kippers there as

00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:47,859

Marc Preston: well.

00:45:48,642 --> 00:45:52,085

Marc Preston: All right Now if you were to sit down and

00:45:52,105 --> 00:45:52,728

Marc Preston: have next question.

00:45:52,748 --> 00:45:54,597

Marc Preston: have a cup of coffee, you and three people

00:45:54,757 --> 00:45:57,026

Marc Preston: that now, living or not, who would be kind

00:45:57,046 --> 00:45:59,235

Marc Preston: of nice to spend a few hours with three

00:45:59,355 --> 00:46:00,558

Marc Preston: people you can think of to have

00:46:00,638 --> 00:46:02,221

Marc Preston: conversation for a bit?

00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:04,005

Marc Preston: Oh boy.

00:46:04,446 --> 00:46:07,633

Graham McTavish: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, that's a big ask.

00:46:07,713 --> 00:46:10,359

Graham McTavish: Well, shakespeare, definitely That would be

00:46:10,379 --> 00:46:12,443

Graham McTavish: an interesting person to have over for

00:46:12,463 --> 00:46:12,684

Graham McTavish: dinner.

00:46:15,015 --> 00:46:20,145

Graham McTavish: I think somebody like well, from a skank's

00:46:20,166 --> 00:46:21,548

Graham McTavish: point of view, someone like William Wallace,

00:46:22,456 --> 00:46:24,841

Graham McTavish: he'd be interesting to spend an evening

00:46:24,881 --> 00:46:25,002

Graham McTavish: with.

00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:33,222

Graham McTavish: And possibly, let me think, somebody like

00:46:33,803 --> 00:46:38,810

Graham McTavish: well, yeah, i mean, i grew up loving Clint

00:46:38,895 --> 00:46:41,918

Graham McTavish: Eastwood, you see, and so I.

00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:43,621

Graham McTavish: It would be an interesting evening, clint

00:46:43,641 --> 00:46:45,023

Graham McTavish: Eastwood, william Wallace and William

00:46:45,063 --> 00:46:45,544

Graham McTavish: Shakespeare.

00:46:47,006 --> 00:46:48,349

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, wouldn't be bored.

00:46:49,055 --> 00:46:51,318

Marc Preston: I mean, i think he's directed by Clint

00:46:51,358 --> 00:46:52,700

Marc Preston: Eastwood is very interesting, he's just a

00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,241

Marc Preston: little different.

00:46:53,541 --> 00:46:54,763

Graham McTavish: Yeah, yeah, i hear that too.

00:46:54,783 --> 00:46:57,266

Marc Preston: Yeah, Yeah, Like instead of yelling action,

00:46:57,286 --> 00:46:59,369

Marc Preston: he's like, okay, go, That's right.

00:47:00,515 --> 00:47:01,939

Marc Preston: It's amazing that guy's in his 90s.

00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,045

Marc Preston: What he's still doing I know Inspiring.

00:47:04,575 --> 00:47:05,438

Marc Preston: Now, if you go back, go back in time when

00:47:05,478 --> 00:47:08,528

Marc Preston: you were a young man and the first time you

00:47:08,635 --> 00:47:10,881

Marc Preston: noticed somebody on TV or film who was your

00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:12,826

Marc Preston: first celebrity crush.

00:47:13,175 --> 00:47:14,759

Marc Preston: You just see them and they're like, oh you

00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:16,203

Marc Preston: know, they grabbed your attention out of

00:47:16,223 --> 00:47:16,544

Marc Preston: the gate.

00:47:17,896 --> 00:47:19,903

Graham McTavish: And Tony Curtis in the persuaders.

00:47:20,678 --> 00:47:21,723

Marc Preston: You know, it's really interesting to bring

00:47:21,763 --> 00:47:24,035

Marc Preston: up the Roger Moore thing going thinking 007.

00:47:24,135 --> 00:47:25,940

Marc Preston: I have to ask, though, who is your favorite

00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,146

Marc Preston: James Bond, sean Connery, i mean no

00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:28,747

Marc Preston: question.

00:47:28,775 --> 00:47:30,341

Marc Preston: Of course, you know I would say Sean

00:47:30,361 --> 00:47:32,377

Marc Preston: Connery first, and I do have to say I grew

00:47:32,477 --> 00:47:35,222

Marc Preston: up with Roger Moore as being my 007 and my

00:47:35,262 --> 00:47:35,523

Marc Preston: but.

00:47:35,663 --> 00:47:41,020

Marc Preston: Daniel Craig they paid homage like with,

00:47:41,261 --> 00:47:42,906

Marc Preston: with, uh, I can't remember.

00:47:43,809 --> 00:47:45,896

Marc Preston: The movie was named after the estate that

00:47:45,936 --> 00:47:47,282

Marc Preston: he grew up on as a young child.

00:47:47,595 --> 00:47:48,479

Graham McTavish: But Skyfall.

00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:49,001

Marc Preston: Skyfall.

00:47:49,415 --> 00:47:51,681

Marc Preston: So James Bond was Scottish, which I didn't

00:47:51,741 --> 00:47:53,466

Marc Preston: really put two and two together till later.

00:47:53,715 --> 00:47:56,703

Graham McTavish: So well, yeah, i mean that's what Sam

00:47:56,743 --> 00:47:57,646

Graham McTavish: Mendes decided.

00:47:57,935 --> 00:47:59,819

Graham McTavish: But yes, I mean I don't.

00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,403

Graham McTavish: I mean I think you know when you read the

00:48:01,443 --> 00:48:03,427

Graham McTavish: books, yeah, it's interesting.

00:48:04,055 --> 00:48:06,229

Graham McTavish: I mean, connery brought real danger to the

00:48:06,302 --> 00:48:08,149

Graham McTavish: character, which is very important if

00:48:08,222 --> 00:48:09,726

Graham McTavish: you're a fan of the books.

00:48:10,235 --> 00:48:12,382

Marc Preston: I took a cruise with my children down to

00:48:13,084 --> 00:48:13,625

Marc Preston: the Caribbean.

00:48:13,735 --> 00:48:16,061

Marc Preston: We went to Jamaica and I really wanted to

00:48:16,141 --> 00:48:18,968

Marc Preston: go to where, uh, where the, where the books

00:48:18,995 --> 00:48:20,440

Marc Preston: were written, because it's, it's like a

00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:21,865

Marc Preston: resortish golden.

00:48:21,955 --> 00:48:23,801

Marc Preston: I, yeah, and I do, we do, we just didn't

00:48:23,841 --> 00:48:25,185

Marc Preston: have time to, but I wanted to go.

00:48:25,495 --> 00:48:28,343

Marc Preston: But um, now, speaking of an island, the

00:48:28,383 --> 00:48:29,766

Marc Preston: next question if you were to be forced to

00:48:29,807 --> 00:48:31,439

Marc Preston: live on an exotic island, somewhere you

00:48:31,459 --> 00:48:33,284

Marc Preston: want to be, it's nice, but it doesn't have

00:48:33,344 --> 00:48:36,118

Marc Preston: streaming internet, so you're going to need

00:48:36,138 --> 00:48:38,483

Marc Preston: to bring, uh, to listen to music, one DVD,

00:48:38,864 --> 00:48:41,924

Marc Preston: uh, one CD rather, and also a movie you can

00:48:41,973 --> 00:48:42,911

Marc Preston: watch over and over again.

00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,508

Marc Preston: What would be a?

00:48:43,558 --> 00:48:45,734

Marc Preston: what would be the DVD you want to bring?

00:48:45,935 --> 00:48:48,800

Marc Preston: So, a movie and an album, the DVD, like a

00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,743

Marc Preston: TV show, you mean?

00:48:51,358 --> 00:48:53,036

Marc Preston: Uh, that's true, it could be a TV show, it

00:48:53,076 --> 00:48:54,701

Marc Preston: could be a movie, something you can watch

00:48:55,022 --> 00:48:55,463

Marc Preston: over and over.

00:48:57,539 --> 00:49:00,005

Graham McTavish: Um, it's a mad, mad, mad mad world.

00:49:00,675 --> 00:49:01,318

Graham McTavish: I love that film.

00:49:02,598 --> 00:49:04,698

Marc Preston: I love that film Now, musically, what, what,

00:49:04,738 --> 00:49:06,463

Marc Preston: what would be the album you'd want to have

00:49:06,483 --> 00:49:06,804

Marc Preston: with you?

00:49:07,185 --> 00:49:07,766

Graham McTavish: Oh gosh.

00:49:08,015 --> 00:49:11,324

Graham McTavish: Well, probably it would have to be an album

00:49:11,344 --> 00:49:13,618

Graham McTavish: that I grew up with, so it would either be

00:49:13,638 --> 00:49:18,047

Graham McTavish: the clash or it would be maybe Pink Floyd,

00:49:18,568 --> 00:49:19,069

Graham McTavish: something like that.

00:49:19,315 --> 00:49:21,043

Marc Preston: I would like to see a resurgence of love

00:49:21,083 --> 00:49:23,574

Marc Preston: and affection for the what, what, what I

00:49:23,594 --> 00:49:25,599

Marc Preston: could be, we'd be called retro music now,

00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:28,524

Marc Preston: but there was such a such a definitive era.

00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:29,506

Marc Preston: You know things like that.

00:49:29,526 --> 00:49:33,662

Marc Preston: Yeah, that was um now, if you were to go

00:49:33,762 --> 00:49:35,346

Marc Preston: next question from the time you wake up in

00:49:35,366 --> 00:49:36,638

Marc Preston: the morning until the time you go to bed,

00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,745

Marc Preston: what would be the component parts?

00:49:38,915 --> 00:49:41,744

Marc Preston: How would you define a perfect day for you?

00:49:42,195 --> 00:49:43,921

Marc Preston: You know what would be the pieces of that

00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:44,503

Marc Preston: perfect day?

00:49:45,055 --> 00:49:50,069

Graham McTavish: Gosh good cup of coffee, followed by a good

00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:54,752

Graham McTavish: walk, followed by lunch with my kids,

00:49:55,143 --> 00:49:59,586

Graham McTavish: followed by I don't know a cycle ride.

00:50:00,015 --> 00:50:01,260

Graham McTavish: That would be a great thing to have.

00:50:02,635 --> 00:50:06,323

Graham McTavish: And, uh, going to see a movie at the cinema

00:50:07,164 --> 00:50:09,957

Graham McTavish: with my closest friends That would be a

00:50:09,997 --> 00:50:10,459

Graham McTavish: great day.

00:50:11,281 --> 00:50:12,897

Marc Preston: That is really, really nice And I like that

00:50:12,977 --> 00:50:14,243

Marc Preston: it starts off with a cup of coffee.

00:50:14,275 --> 00:50:15,277

Marc Preston: I can identify with that.

00:50:15,318 --> 00:50:16,721

Marc Preston: But it's not tea, Is it?

00:50:16,821 --> 00:50:18,305

Marc Preston: So why is it not tea?

00:50:18,405 --> 00:50:19,127

Marc Preston: Why is it coffee?

00:50:19,515 --> 00:50:21,603

Marc Preston: I have to ask a gentleman from your neck of

00:50:21,623 --> 00:50:23,999

Marc Preston: the woods I just, i just, uh, i've

00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:26,184

Marc Preston: transitioned into coffee, yeah.

00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:29,419

Marc Preston: Yeah, yeah, i would again when that trip

00:50:29,439 --> 00:50:32,194

Marc Preston: down to, uh, jamaica, we got a big bank of

00:50:32,234 --> 00:50:32,395

Marc Preston: coffee.

00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,474

Marc Preston: We got a big bank of this blue mountain

00:50:34,494 --> 00:50:37,527

Marc Preston: coffee And I and I'm telling you that is

00:50:37,587 --> 00:50:39,294

Marc Preston: some of the it's expensive as heck to get

00:50:39,314 --> 00:50:41,401

Marc Preston: if you're not there, but it's so that's

00:50:41,421 --> 00:50:42,604

Marc Preston: like my favorite coffee now.

00:50:43,375 --> 00:50:45,585

Marc Preston: Um, now, last couple of questions.

00:50:45,826 --> 00:50:47,553

Marc Preston: If you weren't doing this, if you did not

00:50:47,613 --> 00:50:49,218

Marc Preston: end up being a Thespian, having the career

00:50:49,238 --> 00:50:51,164

Marc Preston: you had, what would be the other path you

00:50:51,184 --> 00:50:51,786

Marc Preston: would be on?

00:50:52,236 --> 00:50:52,336

Marc Preston: Uh.

00:50:52,477 --> 00:50:53,380

Graham McTavish: I would have been a pilot.

00:50:54,335 --> 00:50:55,500

Graham McTavish: I would have been an airline pilot.

00:50:56,035 --> 00:50:57,361

Graham McTavish: That's what I was getting ready to do.

00:50:57,815 --> 00:50:59,861

Graham McTavish: I was going to join the RAF and I was going

00:50:59,881 --> 00:51:01,184

Graham McTavish: to follow in my father's footsteps.

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Marc Preston: Uh, did you?

00:51:02,896 --> 00:51:04,579

Marc Preston: did you ever do your pilots, uh, private

00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:05,421

Marc Preston: pilots license?

00:51:05,642 --> 00:51:07,305

Marc Preston: Sadly not, sadly not.

00:51:07,545 --> 00:51:08,908

Marc Preston: No, a great regret.

00:51:09,455 --> 00:51:11,084

Marc Preston: But the last question I've got for you if

00:51:11,124 --> 00:51:12,995

Marc Preston: you were to have that DeLorean and go back

00:51:13,015 --> 00:51:15,266

Marc Preston: in time and you had just a few minutes with

00:51:15,361 --> 00:51:17,921

Marc Preston: 16 year old you piece of advice that you'd

00:51:17,855 --> 00:51:19,844

Marc Preston: want to impart either make that moment of

00:51:19,934 --> 00:51:21,731

Marc Preston: your life better or maybe put you on a

00:51:21,820 --> 00:51:23,856

Marc Preston: little bit different of a path What advice

00:51:23,937 --> 00:51:25,923

Marc Preston: would you have for 16 year old Graham?

00:51:26,455 --> 00:51:27,820

Graham McTavish: I wouldn't want to give put myself on a

00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:29,776

Graham McTavish: different path, to be honest, I would just,

00:51:30,037 --> 00:51:32,141

Graham McTavish: I would just tell him to trust your

00:51:32,201 --> 00:51:35,248

Graham McTavish: instincts really and not worry so much.

00:51:35,575 --> 00:51:35,735

Marc Preston: That's.

00:51:35,755 --> 00:51:37,441

Marc Preston: One of the most common responses is don't

00:51:37,461 --> 00:51:39,195

Marc Preston: worry, trust the process, go through it.

00:51:39,255 --> 00:51:42,681

Marc Preston: Don't, don't stress yourself, um, because,

00:51:43,102 --> 00:51:44,509

Marc Preston: like you were saying, all those decisions

00:51:44,569 --> 00:51:46,155

Marc Preston: you make, you don't know the sequence of

00:51:46,195 --> 00:51:47,479

Marc Preston: events that get you from there to here.

00:51:47,940 --> 00:51:49,083

Marc Preston: Yeah Well, graham, thank you.

00:51:49,283 --> 00:51:50,847

Marc Preston: I do want to thank you for taking time out.

00:51:50,975 --> 00:51:52,080

Marc Preston: It really is special.

00:51:52,675 --> 00:51:55,328

Marc Preston: And again, i appreciate your education on

00:51:55,348 --> 00:51:56,635

Marc Preston: the all things Scotland.

00:51:56,856 --> 00:51:58,242

Marc Preston: Well, i'm going to continue my education.

00:51:58,415 --> 00:51:59,538

Marc Preston: I promise my pleasure.

00:52:01,544 --> 00:52:02,246

Marc Preston: All right, there you go.

00:52:02,575 --> 00:52:05,820

Marc Preston: Mr Graham McTavish, Enjoy this chat quite a

00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:06,101

Marc Preston: bit.

00:52:06,895 --> 00:52:08,780

Marc Preston: Don't forget, he is literally on TV

00:52:09,021 --> 00:52:09,543

Marc Preston: everywhere.

00:52:10,755 --> 00:52:13,101

Marc Preston: He is in House of the Dragon, the game of

00:52:13,162 --> 00:52:14,726

Marc Preston: Thrones prequel.

00:52:15,115 --> 00:52:17,215

Marc Preston: It's on HBO Max, or just Max.

00:52:17,456 --> 00:52:19,422

Marc Preston: I'm going to say HBO Max forever, i think.

00:52:20,435 --> 00:52:22,260

Marc Preston: Also, he is an outlander.

00:52:22,521 --> 00:52:26,271

Marc Preston: The stars show and his stars co-star, sam

00:52:26,332 --> 00:52:28,799

Marc Preston: Hewan, got together with him to make the

00:52:28,839 --> 00:52:31,225

Marc Preston: show Men in Kiltz road trip with Sam and

00:52:31,265 --> 00:52:31,586

Marc Preston: Graham.

00:52:31,735 --> 00:52:34,101

Marc Preston: That comes out the new season, that is on

00:52:34,362 --> 00:52:35,625

Marc Preston: August 11th.

00:52:36,295 --> 00:52:37,819

Marc Preston: And of course, you can check out Graham on

00:52:37,859 --> 00:52:40,486

Marc Preston: the show The Witcher on Netflix.

00:52:41,215 --> 00:52:42,500

Marc Preston: And that's it for me today.

00:52:42,935 --> 00:52:45,765

Marc Preston: And again, if you don't mind a little quick

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00:52:52,545 --> 00:52:55,541

Marc Preston: Huh, love those five stars working hard for

00:52:55,561 --> 00:52:57,199

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00:52:57,635 --> 00:52:59,480

Marc Preston: It does mean a lot to me coming back every

00:52:59,541 --> 00:53:01,836

Marc Preston: week to check out the show And if you're

00:53:01,856 --> 00:53:03,601

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00:53:04,323 --> 00:53:06,056

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00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:08,204

Marc Preston: You go, have a great rest of your day.

00:53:08,455 --> 00:53:10,179

Marc Preston: If you are working out, if you're driving,

00:53:10,340 --> 00:53:12,485

Marc Preston: whatever you're up to right now, just be

00:53:12,546 --> 00:53:12,806

Marc Preston: safe.

00:53:13,235 --> 00:53:14,736

Marc Preston: I really do appreciate it And we'll get

00:53:14,756 --> 00:53:15,559

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