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It was about something awful.

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I think it was a warning about children's

hair getting stuck in pool drains and

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horrible accidents happening that I

think they used me as an example of

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a kid, like swimming along and her

hair getting caught in a pool drain.

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Announcer: Welcome to Story and Craft.

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Now, here's your host, Marc Preston.

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Marc Preston: All right, here we go.

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Back again, another

episode of Story and Craft.

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Thank you so much for coming back by.

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Uh, if this is your first

episode, my name is Marc.

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Good to meet you.

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Good to have you along today, sitting down

with Virginia Gardner, talented actor.

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She, of course, was in Halloween.

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She was in Beautiful Disaster

and Beautiful Wedding with Dylan

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Sprouse, the show Runaways.

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The new film she's in

is called F. Mary Kill.

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If that sounds familiar, of

course, we spoke with Laura Murphy

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the other day, the director.

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She is starring alongside Lucy

Hale in this new film, uh, F.

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Mary kill in theaters right now.

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Of course, with Laura early this week

and with Virginia today, it's officially

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F Mary kill week on story and craft.

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Never thought I would say that, but.

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Uh, funny film, kind of a cool

mix of a horror and comedy.

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Uh, okay.

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So let's jump into it.

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Today is Virginia or Jenny Gardner

day right here on story and craft.

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We're going to call you

Jenny, not Virginia.

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I keep calling you a Virginia.

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I'm like, well, wait a minute.

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You're Jenny.

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It seems like everyone else.

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Virginia Gardner: Either one is just fine.

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Friends call me Jenny.

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You're more than welcome to call me Jenny.

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Marc Preston: Oh, we're friends already.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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So, uh, so where are you at?

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Uh, are you in, uh, California?

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Virginia Gardner: I'm in Los

Angeles, by the way, can you hear the

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gardening happening, happening, um,

outside of, if so, I can move rooms.

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Oh,

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Marc Preston: you're good.

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No, no, no, no, don't worry.

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Don't worry.

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I got a golden retriever upstairs.

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Who's bouncing around.

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Scratching and frustration.

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He wants to be down here to hang out, but

he'll literally be up on top of me looking

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at the screen if he was here right now.

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Um, no.

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Are you from, uh, are you from

there originally or did you get

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out to LA from somewhere else?

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Virginia Gardner: I'm from

Sacramento originally.

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Yeah.

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So just Northern South

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Marc Preston: a little bit,

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Virginia Gardner: came South.

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Um, yeah, I moved here when I

was 16 from Northern California

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and knew nothing about LA.

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And so I was under the impression that

downtown LA, like most downtowns of cities

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is sort of the hub of where everything is.

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And downtown LA is not that at all.

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Certainly not 12 years

ago when I moved here.

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Uh, but I had a little loft in

downtown LA and that's where

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I started here when I was 16.

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Marc Preston: Your folks did move there.

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You actually came to start working at 16.

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Virginia Gardner: I came to start

working at 16 I had been doing some

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sort of modeling stuff when I was

younger and I had been traveling a

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lot doing some print modeling for

like Kohl's and Abercrombie and that

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kind of stuff when I was 13, 14, 15.

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And the goal was to act.

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And so, you know, what I eventually wanted

to do was to just move to LA and pursue

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this full time, which is what I ended up

doing at 16, which in hindsight is insane

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that I was living here as a 16 year old.

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I don't know if I would have,

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Marc Preston: it was,

well, you came by yourself.

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Virginia Gardner: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Marc Preston: Wow.

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Okay.

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We need, we need to get into this.

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Okay.

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So you came by yourself.

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So your folks, uh, you know, tell me

that were they down with it or because

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the work was there it was available

So they were they cool with it or were

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they like what the hell are you doing?

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You know,

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Virginia Gardner: they were so funny.

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They my dad is such like an academic

in my whole life He wanted me to go to

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Harvard and go to business school and

do that route And I took a hard left

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and I dropped out of high school So I,

I really was not, uh, on the same page

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with him when it came to all that stuff.

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I just knew from a very early age

that this is what I wanted to do and

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was very one track minded about it.

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And when I was 13, you know, I, I started,

uh, submitting myself to acting agencies,

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um, via email and would CC my mom and

she had no idea that I was doing this.

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So I was submitting myself to all these

agencies and my mom started getting some

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responses from some agencies here and

there, that there was some interest.

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And she was like, you know, if

this is something you want to

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pursue, we don't want this for you.

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We love you, but this is.

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This is you're on your own here.

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You gotta, you gotta figure this out.

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We, we want you to go a very

different path with your life.

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And

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Marc Preston: 13, you were 13

is when you started doing this.

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Virginia Gardner: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So slowly I started doing some

modeling out of San Francisco,

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which was close to Sacramento.

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And, um, You know, it was flying all

over the world, uh, at least all over

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the United States for my modeling

stuff at an early age and kind of was

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able to start making enough money or

my parents said, okay, maybe there's a

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little bit of a real job here for you.

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And at 16, they were supportive

of me picking up and moving to LA

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and dropping out of high school.

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And my dad's thinking, which I understand

now is he's, he was hopeful that if I

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moved at 16 started acting, it didn't

work out, I could then go to college at

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a normal age versus going to college.

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Graduating at 22, still wanting to act

and then just being that much older and

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sort of behind in, in an acting career.

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So that was like, he's like, okay,

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Marc Preston: she'll get

it out of her system.

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Other kids.

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Yeah,

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Virginia Gardner: exactly.

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Yeah.

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Marc Preston: Yeah.

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Here's the thing.

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I know I wanted to work

in radio when I was seven.

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I knew that's what I want to do.

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So I think there's a Zen to not knowing

what's stacked against you or what

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possibly, you know, and you're just

boldly, just tenaciously going after it.

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Um, and so I could see that.

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So I think when I got to college,

that's kind of when that hit with me.

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It's like, I've already done

the thing that I want to do.

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Why am I. You know, it just

kind of felt like I was, um, I

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don't want to say wasting time.

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I was not being efficient.

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I was not dedicating myself to the

efforts that are going to get me there.

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But 16 is a bold age to do it though.

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You know, I think I started the radio

when I was 17, but I was still going

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to school, doing my thing and you know,

I didn't need to travel for that and

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I don't have the face for modeling

or anything else for that matter.

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How old were you when you

started traveling for modeling?

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Virginia Gardner: I was traveling for

modeling by myself when I was like.

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14 so I would go

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Marc Preston: by yourself.

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Oh, wow.

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Virginia Gardner: I've spoken with

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Marc Preston: one other model before and

she was telling me just all the places

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she would go and there would be people

there that kind of kept an eye on you.

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But did you find you had that

or were you really on your own?

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Virginia Gardner: The first couple

of times I left and went for

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jobs, my mom would come with me.

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So we kind of established where she,

it was repeat clients that I had.

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So she kind of knew where I was going,

the people I was going to be working with.

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And so that's when I transitioned

to being able to go by myself, but

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also with modeling, unlike acting,

at least at the time, I don't.

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No, how it is today, but there

was no unions, there was no rules.

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It was just kind of a free for all.

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You didn't need to go to onset school.

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Like they weren't going to pay to

fly you first class and pay to have a

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parent there, you know, it was a little

bit of a free for all when it came

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to the modeling world, at least then

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Marc Preston: you already knew you

were wanting to go into acting,

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you know, that was your jam.

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When did you start making that move?

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Did you start taking classes?

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Did you start, you know, just

kind of going to auditions?

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Did your age, did you tell your agent,

Hey, you know, get the people over in the

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theatrical department to start submitting

me, how did that come together for you?

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Virginia Gardner: I always

knew that I wanted to act.

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I don't know if, sorry, my dog is

barking at something on the TV.

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Marc Preston: Oh, it's cool.

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It's cool.

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I'm a dog lover.

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They can talk also.

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It's totally fine.

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Virginia Gardner: Sorry.

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Um, I knew from a really

early age I wanted to act.

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I mean, there was a

movie that, that really.

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Kind of made that clear

to me called I am Sam.

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It was Sean Penn and Dakota Fanning.

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Yeah, I have a brother with autism.

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And so at that age, I was sort of figuring

out what that dynamic looks like in, in

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hadn't seen or met, you know, anyone else

with autism and in that was so confusing

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thing for a younger sister to watch her

older brother go through and I remember

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that movie Having such a strong impact

on me and in feeling so seen and like I

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could understand more of the world and

someone I loved through this film and,

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um, Dakota Fanning kind of was blonde

and around my age and I felt like I could

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relate so deeply to her in that film.

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And that's kind of what ignited this

spark in me and to just to want to

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be able to understand more of the

world and myself through acting and

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through creative expression like that.

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So it just kind of went from there and.

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I did a lot of local theater

when I was younger and, um, would

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make my parents sit in the living

room and watch me as I performed.

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Like I always just kind of felt like

I was a bit of a performer, um, and

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then it just kind of went from there

and eventually talked to my modeling

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agency into letting me, um, get a

theatrical agent and, and, and then they.

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It snowballed.

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Marc Preston: You said

your dad was an academic.

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Was he like a college professor or?

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Virginia Gardner: He's just academically.

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Or he just

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Marc Preston: put a lot

of value in academics?

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A

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Virginia Gardner: lot

of value in academics.

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Marc Preston: What kind of gig

did he have or does he have?

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Virginia Gardner: He is in

construction management.

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Which I know little to nothing about

to me anyone with a normal job like a a

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normal person job I'm, just so it's so

impressive to me because I just don't

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have any understanding at all of how it

works But he's in construction management.

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And now he also has um a school for

people with autism and he opened A

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research facility for people with autism.

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So he's also really deeply

involved in that community as well

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Marc Preston: Very cool.

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So did your mother work or does

she work or does she kind of

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kind of focus on the family?

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Virginia Gardner: My mother was

a newscaster and she was a radio

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disc jockey for a long time.

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So she was in really?

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Marc Preston: Did she ever do any TV?

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Virginia Gardner: She did.

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She was on a channel called KCRA 3

which was the local Sacramento news

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for many many years and She did some

other News programs that funny enough

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over Thanksgiving recently, she had

never thought to look herself up on

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YouTube and see if there's any old

clips of her as a news reporter.

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And so over Thanksgiving, we went

and I found some amazing clips

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of her from the eighties when she

was around my age, uh, reporting.

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And it's just so much fun.

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She was at the opening of Disney World.

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Oh, so this was like a

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Marc Preston: long term career.

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This was, she would have been

doing this for a while, huh?

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Virginia Gardner: Yeah,

she did it for a long time.

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Marc Preston: So do you have any

memories of going to the radio station

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or TV station when you were young?

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Virginia Gardner: Yeah.

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She would do the nightly news.

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So I would come after school and

bring my homework and sit in the

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corner of the news station and watch

her as she was, uh, doing the news.

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And yeah, it was so fun.

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Marc Preston: Did they ever

use you in any segments?

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Virginia Gardner: They did.

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Well, especially when I knew that I

wanted to start getting into acting, my

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mom, there was one segment that I got to

be a part of that I was just so, I think

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it was, it was about something awful.

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I think it was about a warning

about children's hair getting stuck

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in pool drains and, and, um, and

horrible accidents happening that I

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think they used me as an example of

a kid like swimming along and her

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hair getting caught in a pool drain.

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But, uh, but yeah, I got

to be a part of a segment.

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And I remember I had my birthday party

there one year where me and all my friends

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got to like sit at the news desk and

pretend that we had our own newscast.

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It was lots of fun.

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Marc Preston: Just curious, were

you ever accused of being a, like

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do an air quotes here, a precocious

kid, you know, you were like a ham.

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Virginia Gardner: No, I, I was

like, so shy and there was, there

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was few people that I would sort of

be myself with and, and like want

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to perform in front of my parents.

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But when it came to anyone but

them, I was incredibly shy.

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Marc Preston: Well, I think a lot of

people, uh, who do this for a living

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were This was a interesting outlet.

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Like I would be mortified in high school

doing any kind of stage, anything.

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I'm like, I always marveled at people's

like, Oh dude, that's a lot of attention.

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I don't want that much attention.

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Um, so when did you kind of find

that you were starting to book stuff?

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Uh, about how old were you?

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Virginia Gardner: I started

doing local theater and working

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in local plays, probably.

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Maybe around 12 ish, 12, 13 ish.

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It was around the same time I sort of

began to model as well, but that's when

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I was doing some fun local theater.

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Uh, yeah, I, I miss theater.

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That's really where I got my start.

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Marc Preston: Did you develop a set

of friends in the theater setting

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that were different than, let's say

they're your friends in school or,

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you know, how did that work out for

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Virginia Gardner: you?

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Yeah, I had friends that were my theater

friends and then I would also do some

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productions through my school as well.

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Just, I went to a very small school.

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So a lot of the kids would just.

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Be in theater class cause it was, it

was one of very few options for people.

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So a lot of my good friends in school

would also be in theater class with me.

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Marc Preston: Oh, so, okay.

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So there was some crossover.

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You were at this odd kid.

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It's like, what is she doing?

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You know,

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Virginia Gardner: gee,

I remember leaving to go

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Marc Preston: do an audition for a cookie

commercial or just something like that.

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And like, I was, See, I was an elementary,

I had to be fifth or sixth grade.

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I remember coming back and I didn't

want to make a deal with, I didn't

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want anybody knowing, you know, but

apparently the teacher had told the

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class where I went, I came back to like,

Oh my God, you're like a celebrity.

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And I was like, I'm going for

like a cookie commercial audition.

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And I was like, I don't

like all this attention.

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You know, when you were like,

okay, acting's my jam, it

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started, you know, in theater.

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So your parents already had a

few years of you doing this thing

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and they're like, all right, you

know, this is where you're going.

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Your dad being the academic.

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The, he is, you know,

or put weight on that.

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What was it like when you dropped out,

decided to drop out of high school or

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were they like really not happy or is

like, okay, let her go through this.

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And like you were saying before,

let her work it out or, you

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know, how was that for you?

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Virginia Gardner: Well, to

give the full picture, I had,

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I had been auditioning for.

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film and television while

I was living in Sacramento.

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And, uh, you know, my mom would

very kindly drive me to LA.

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We do, it was before self tapes really.

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So we'd audition, we'd

drive back to Sacramento.

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This was before sort of, I

was allowed to make that final

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commitment to just moving to LA.

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And I had booked my first guest star

on 16th birthday, I booked this job.

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And it was a guest star on some

Nickelodeon show way back in the day.

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And it was a sitcom show where you

rehearsed all week and then you filmed

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on your, your Friday or Thursday.

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And I had been in rehearsals

all week and I was so nervous.

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I, you know, I didn't do a, it

was, it was my first job ever.

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It was my first time

I'd ever been on a set.

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I was just a total ball of nerves

come the end of the rehearsal.

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But you were

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Marc Preston: around other kids though.

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So you weren't like, you know, showing up.

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with a bunch of adults.

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You were you had other kids with you.

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Virginia Gardner: It was all other

kids, but I was such a socially

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awkward kid that that was the social

aspect was very intimidating for me,

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even though they were other kids.

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So I was so intimidated by

these, these other child actors.

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So anyway, we're in rehearsals

and I can just tell that they're

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not happy with what I'm doing.

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And I told my mom, we were driving home

one night from rehearsal and I said,

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I just have a, I have a gut feeling.

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I'm going to get fired.

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I just, I think I'm going to get fired.

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And my mom was like, no,

you're not going to get fired.

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They would never do that.

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Blah, blah, blah.

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Sure enough.

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We get the call three hours

later that I had been fired.

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So my first acting job ever, I

promptly got fired from because I

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just could not handle the nerves.

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And I was.

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Devastated.

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It was so earth shattering

for me at the time.

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And it was after that experience, my

parents were like, the way we see it,

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you could either walk away from this

now, which we would totally understand.

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You've had your heart broken.

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You can, you know, commit to

school, find a different path

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in life, or you can double down.

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We'll support you moving to LA

and giving this a hundred percent

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and just doubling down on this.

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And I said, I want to double down.

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So that's what.

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Prompted the move to LA at 16 and

leaving high school and just sort

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of giving it everything I had.

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Again, I think my dad kind of

with the hopes of, well, she'll

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do this till she's 18 and then

she'll just go to college anyway.

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Marc Preston: Well, did you

get into acting classes?

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I mean, did you kind of do a

little bit more formal training?

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Uh, was that something your dad maybe

said, Hey, maybe you should do that

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and then get the nerves worked out?

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Virginia Gardner: Exactly.

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So I was in a bunch of like, I moved

here at 16 and was living by myself

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here, but was in four classes a week.

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It's not like I was off doing whatever.

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I took it very seriously as,

as a student of this craft.

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Marc Preston: And plus you'd

already done some traveling around.

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So you probably saw some of the pitfalls

and some of the things to look out

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for and kind of had your, you had kind

of had your own back in a way, I'm

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assuming, you know, you kind of knew.

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To stay focused on the work.

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Oh, did you buy any chance to live?

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It was, it was called the Oakwood.

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It was that where did you

have a chance to live there?

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Virginia Gardner: I never

lived at the Oakwood.

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I lived it.

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Oh my gosh.

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What was it called?

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The Palazzo, I think, which was, it was

like the Oakwood and the Palazzo were

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the two that people either lived at.

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And I was at the Palazzo, but I know the

Oakwood, I watched the documentary on

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the child actors at the Oakwood, which

is phenomenal if you haven't seen it.

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Marc Preston: There's

a documentary on that.

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Oh, I didn't know there's a documentary.

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Virginia Gardner: It's a really, it's

very sad, but a great documentary on just.

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Kids coming out for what used

to be pilot season and living at

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the Oakwood with their parents.

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And it's, it's great.

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Marc Preston: I always thought

that was just kind of bad ass.

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It's like, come down there with

a bunch of other kid actors,

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you're going to the pool.

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That may be overly romanticized version

as a kid of what that would be like to,

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well, to go to LA and connect at my age.

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I don't even know if the Oakwood was

around as that kind of a thing when

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I was growing up, but I knew kid

actors were out there and you know,

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that was, I always thought it'd be

kind of cool to be around other.

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Kids and do the thing,

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Virginia Gardner (2): um,

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Marc Preston: project

almanac first film role.

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You're doing the thing.

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Just what was it like for you?

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You know, here's your very first film.

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This is the thing you want to do.

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What was that like?

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Virginia Gardner: It was insane.

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I mean, for your first film

to be a Michael Bay produced

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studio movie was wild.

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And, and I don't think at the time.

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It occurred to me that that is extremely

rare to have something like that happen.

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At the time I was so green that I just

kind of felt like, Oh, surely this

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is like what everyone's first film

looks like when it's so not the case.

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But it was, it was a

wild first experience.

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It was a found footage film.

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And so my character was behind

the camera, operating the camera.

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So I, I was one of the main characters of

this movie, but had a little, small amount

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of screen time because my character was

filming everything, but I was so grateful

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because I was so nervous to be playing

this character that was behind cameras

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so often because I also just got to

learn how everything operated from a very

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different perspective of like the camera

operator because I was often working

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so closely next to the camera operator.

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putting my hand in front of the camera

so it looked like I was operating.

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So I really got to have a different

understanding of the way that things

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work, but I remember my co star

Sophia Black D'Elia at the time

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teaching me how to read a call sheet.

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I had no idea how to read a call

sheet or, you know, understand a one

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liner or what scene numbers meant.

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Like I really had a, such an intense.

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education and it was something

where they could not find my

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character for a really long time.

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They did a long search of actors and I

was one of the last people they read and

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I booked the job and left the next day.

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So it was within 24 hours.

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I auditioned, booked this job

and then left for Atlanta.

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So it was just such a whirlwind

of, of a crazy experience.

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Marc Preston: Oh yeah, that's right.

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Cause that's really when all the

things started kind of kicking

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off shooting in Atlanta right

about It's funny cause I talked to

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Dylan Sprouse a little while back.

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Now you did.

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Two films with him, right?

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Virginia Gardner: Yes, yeah.

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Marc Preston: Like beautiful, it was a

beautiful disaster, beautiful wedding.

469

00:20:00,245 --> 00:20:01,175

I still haven't seen them.

470

00:20:01,175 --> 00:20:01,785

I want to.

471

00:20:02,105 --> 00:20:04,685

In fact, that was something

I wanted to watch, uh, when I

472

00:20:04,685 --> 00:20:05,975

was, before I talked to him.

473

00:20:05,985 --> 00:20:09,085

But he was a guy who had

that kind of kid actor thing.

474

00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:11,734

Did y'all compare notes ever,

you know, you came up at a,

475

00:20:11,754 --> 00:20:13,625

at a time like as a kid actor.

476

00:20:13,625 --> 00:20:15,145

And so, so he had as well.

477

00:20:15,145 --> 00:20:16,705

Was that a little easier?

478

00:20:17,010 --> 00:20:20,510

Working with somebody who had been

doing this since they were young or I'm

479

00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:23,600

just kind of curious what it was like

Connecting with somebody like that.

480

00:20:24,090 --> 00:20:26,020

Virginia Gardner: Well, it's

such a different experience what

481

00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:27,820

Dylan had versus what I have.

482

00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,999

I was working as a kid Modeling and in

local theater when I booked almanac, I

483

00:20:34,009 --> 00:20:39,169

was 17 So I wouldn't say I was so much

of like a kid Working actor where Dylan

484

00:20:39,179 --> 00:20:43,279

obviously had been doing this since he was

a child and had so much fame at such an

485

00:20:43,279 --> 00:20:49,044

early age that's such a Unique experience

and in such a different childhood than

486

00:20:49,055 --> 00:20:54,625

what I had Um, but it's it's so amazing

working with someone like dylan and I had

487

00:20:54,625 --> 00:21:00,105

this recently with lucy hale on on fuck

mary kill where they've been doing it for

488

00:21:00,105 --> 00:21:04,315

so long, they're just Absolute pros and

you ask them to hit a Marc and they can

489

00:21:04,315 --> 00:21:09,075

do it with their eyes closed while doing

seven other things And it's just so In

490

00:21:09,075 --> 00:21:13,555

their blood in a different way with this

just sense memory of doing it for so long.

491

00:21:13,555 --> 00:21:16,325

It's, it's really amazing working

with people like that, that just

492

00:21:16,325 --> 00:21:18,505

are absolute pros at what they do.

493

00:21:18,754 --> 00:21:21,784

Marc Preston: It's gotta be one heck

of a training ground, you know, was

494

00:21:21,785 --> 00:21:23,815

there any desire, is there one now?

495

00:21:23,815 --> 00:21:26,564

I mean, do you have a preference

doing film or, or is it

496

00:21:26,585 --> 00:21:28,624

doing, uh, uh, like a series?

497

00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:29,655

Cause you know, you've done that.

498

00:21:29,655 --> 00:21:32,355

I mean, do you have a preference

either way or is it just kind

499

00:21:32,355 --> 00:21:34,065

of wherever the work is cool?

500

00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,980

Virginia Gardner: I think over the last

few years between COVID and strikes

501

00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:43,770

and this sort of, um, big Marcet

correction with streaming and peak TV

502

00:21:43,770 --> 00:21:48,800

being over, it's, it's been a lot, I

think for, for most actors, I know of

503

00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:53,555

find Find whatever you can right now,

whether that's a series or a film or

504

00:21:53,555 --> 00:21:55,215

whatever, just go where the work is.

505

00:21:55,235 --> 00:21:58,885

So I definitely am someone that

I also like to stay working.

506

00:21:58,895 --> 00:22:00,154

I hate downtime.

507

00:22:00,185 --> 00:22:03,394

If I had it my way, I would be

on a set every day of my life.

508

00:22:03,664 --> 00:22:07,225

I really am my best

self when I'm on a set.

509

00:22:07,295 --> 00:22:12,084

Um, so I, I go where the work is, but

having worked in television and been

510

00:22:12,085 --> 00:22:16,994

on a Marvel show for three years and

having done some stints on other shows

511

00:22:16,995 --> 00:22:18,624

here and there, they're both amazing.

512

00:22:18,625 --> 00:22:19,195

I love.

513

00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:22,459

When you're working in television

and you have this family that you're

514

00:22:22,459 --> 00:22:25,819

with for years and the stability is

so lovely and I love being with the

515

00:22:25,819 --> 00:22:29,299

character that long that it becomes

second nature and you get to explore

516

00:22:29,299 --> 00:22:33,259

one character for years and years, but

with film the last several years I've

517

00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:38,225

just been doing film and I have had so

much fun working all over the world.

518

00:22:38,225 --> 00:22:44,104

I've been to Bulgaria and Spain and

Dominican Republic and Guatemala in

519

00:22:44,104 --> 00:22:48,914

Australia, and I'm going to Thailand

on Friday and I love being, really.

520

00:22:49,215 --> 00:22:49,735

Oh man,

521

00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:50,854

Marc Preston: I'm envious.

522

00:22:59,105 --> 00:23:01,235

No, when I was talking to you, I

wanted to, I was okay, let me go

523

00:23:01,235 --> 00:23:02,854

check out a couple things you've done.

524

00:23:03,314 --> 00:23:07,824

And I wanted to see the movie fall,

but I was like, no, no, no, no, no.

525

00:23:07,904 --> 00:23:08,794

I can fly an airplane.

526

00:23:08,794 --> 00:23:12,684

But man, that whole, I think climbing the

tower, I'd be cringing the entire time.

527

00:23:12,794 --> 00:23:14,254

Heights are not my jam.

528

00:23:14,524 --> 00:23:18,184

I will say that they're almost a

kryptonite at some level, but um, did

529

00:23:18,184 --> 00:23:19,764

they really have you up on a high?

530

00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,840

Thing where did you have to

do any real climbing or was it

531

00:23:22,850 --> 00:23:24,459

green screen for a lot of that?

532

00:23:24,510 --> 00:23:25,760

Virginia Gardner: It was not green screen.

533

00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,959

We did it practically.

534

00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,879

It was a hundred feet off the ground.

535

00:23:28,889 --> 00:23:32,389

So they built this tower that

was a hundred feet tall on a

536

00:23:32,389 --> 00:23:34,310

cliff that was 2000 feet tall.

537

00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:37,580

So for all of their wide shots,

we were actually 2, 100 feet

538

00:23:37,580 --> 00:23:40,179

up, which was supposed to be

the height of the real tower.

539

00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:41,280

So.

540

00:23:41,570 --> 00:23:43,959

At the beginning of the film,

we climb up and then a ladder

541

00:23:43,959 --> 00:23:45,360

breaks and we're stuck up there.

542

00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,779

So the first couple weeks of filming,

we would climb every single day.

543

00:23:49,779 --> 00:23:52,999

And then eventually, once the ladder

broke and our characters were just stuck

544

00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:56,580

up there, they had a cherry picker and

they would put us in the cherry picker.

545

00:23:56,580 --> 00:24:00,315

They'd Bring us up a hundred feet and we'd

have to, they'd harness us in, but we'd

546

00:24:00,315 --> 00:24:04,675

have to jump from the cherry picker to the

tower and, and just be up there all day.

547

00:24:05,335 --> 00:24:05,545

Yeah.

548

00:24:09,014 --> 00:24:12,244

Marc Preston: I could not focus

on acting or creating story.

549

00:24:12,244 --> 00:24:14,825

And I'd be like, maybe that would work.

550

00:24:15,114 --> 00:24:16,525

I'm too freaked out being up there.

551

00:24:16,595 --> 00:24:18,495

Virginia Gardner: I found that

it made it so much easier.

552

00:24:18,495 --> 00:24:22,675

I, we were actually interacting

with real environment and winds.

553

00:24:22,715 --> 00:24:24,264

And actually, if you.

554

00:24:24,455 --> 00:24:27,814

Stepped a little too far, you would

be looking over as such a high height.

555

00:24:27,889 --> 00:24:30,935

I, I loved doing it practically

and I think it makes your job

556

00:24:30,935 --> 00:24:32,524

as an actor so much easier.

557

00:24:32,585 --> 00:24:34,774

Marc Preston: Well, I think there is

then to, to that when you're really

558

00:24:34,774 --> 00:24:37,955

experiencing the thing that the

character is experiencing, you know?

559

00:24:37,955 --> 00:24:40,115

But I, like I said, I wanted to watch it.

560

00:24:40,115 --> 00:24:42,335

I keep seeing a little

icon show up on my screen.

561

00:24:42,335 --> 00:24:43,024

I wanna watch that.

562

00:24:43,024 --> 00:24:44,335

I'm like, but they're how far up?

563

00:24:44,335 --> 00:24:44,635

Nope.

564

00:24:44,665 --> 00:24:47,875

No, I, I just knew it would be an

uncomfortable watch for me because

565

00:24:47,875 --> 00:24:51,355

I dunno what it's like I say fly an

airplane, but being up that high.

566

00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:52,820

Virginia Gardner (2): No, uh,

567

00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:58,399

Marc Preston: but, uh, now the, the, the,

the F Mary fuck Marigold, what it, and

568

00:24:58,399 --> 00:25:02,810

it's just so funny seeing it as it shows

up as F asterisk asterisk, you know,

569

00:25:03,299 --> 00:25:05,480

um, how did, how did that come to you?

570

00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,709

How did that project come along?

571

00:25:06,879 --> 00:25:10,700

Virginia Gardner: That came to me funny

enough through, uh, one of my best friends

572

00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:17,390

who's been my friend since we were six

years old was at her gym in LA and was

573

00:25:17,410 --> 00:25:20,150

talking to a personal trainer at the gym.

574

00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:25,310

And he goes, Hey, I think my wife's about

to do a movie with your friend, Jenny.

575

00:25:25,729 --> 00:25:28,669

And she came home from the gym

and she called me and she was

576

00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:29,889

like, are you doing this movie?

577

00:25:30,059 --> 00:25:30,899

Fuck, marry, kill.

578

00:25:30,899 --> 00:25:34,469

My, my friend says he's his wife

is about to be working with you.

579

00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:37,099

And I was like, no, I've never heard of.

580

00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,040

This movie, I have no idea

what you're talking about.

581

00:25:39,420 --> 00:25:41,460

And, uh, called my agent later that day.

582

00:25:41,460 --> 00:25:43,130

And sure enough, my agent had heard of it.

583

00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:47,169

And, uh, and anyway, we, we

tracked it down and made it happen.

584

00:25:47,169 --> 00:25:50,860

And I read the script and immediately

was so excited about it and excited

585

00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:55,029

about the opportunity to work with

Lucy Hale, who, like I said, is just

586

00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,100

brilliant and so much fun to work with.

587

00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,830

And yeah, that's kind of

how it all came together.

588

00:25:59,830 --> 00:26:01,460

And within a few weeks I was in Canada.

589

00:26:01,765 --> 00:26:02,905

Marc Preston: Like Vancouver or?

590

00:26:02,965 --> 00:26:05,705

Virginia Gardner: Kelowna, Canada,

which is a beautiful place.

591

00:26:05,705 --> 00:26:08,805

I'm, I'm, it's wine country

of Canada and I love wine.

592

00:26:08,825 --> 00:26:09,864

So I was just in heaven.

593

00:26:10,455 --> 00:26:11,654

Marc Preston: I got to

ask you, you said it.

594

00:26:11,665 --> 00:26:15,144

So what kind of wine is

your favorite varietal?

595

00:26:15,334 --> 00:26:17,094

Virginia Gardner: Oh,

I love Italian wines.

596

00:26:17,134 --> 00:26:18,725

I love Tempranillo.

597

00:26:19,195 --> 00:26:21,915

I love, uh, I'm going to butcher

the pronunciation, but like

598

00:26:21,915 --> 00:26:23,715

a Borrello or a Barbadesco.

599

00:26:24,155 --> 00:26:28,394

Um, but the Kelowna wine scene is really

fun because they don't have the climate

600

00:26:28,394 --> 00:26:33,014

there to really grow the same kind

of varietals that you see elsewhere.

601

00:26:33,074 --> 00:26:36,574

So they're kind of like the rule breakers

in the wine industry where they're doing

602

00:26:36,574 --> 00:26:40,594

these really funky varietals that only

they can grow and sort of making the

603

00:26:40,955 --> 00:26:42,885

best out of what their climate allows.

604

00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,715

So they have all of these

really like funky, cool wines.

605

00:26:45,884 --> 00:26:48,685

But you just, I had never

seen or tried anywhere else.

606

00:26:48,735 --> 00:26:49,945

It's a really fun wine.

607

00:26:49,945 --> 00:26:50,304

I'm kind of

608

00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:51,254

Marc Preston: a basic guy.

609

00:26:51,854 --> 00:26:53,524

I'm very basic when it comes to wine.

610

00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:56,214

Like I'm a, I like a chilled white wine.

611

00:26:56,214 --> 00:27:00,364

If I'm just, just sitting down chatting,

I'm like a Pinot Grigio or whatever,

612

00:27:00,815 --> 00:27:02,785

but my son and not my son was in town.

613

00:27:02,794 --> 00:27:04,865

We only have one really good

Italian restaurant on the Island.

614

00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:06,585

They have other ones, but

I think it's only one.

615

00:27:06,805 --> 00:27:07,504

Really good one.

616

00:27:07,955 --> 00:27:09,705

And they make their own

pasta and everything.

617

00:27:09,705 --> 00:27:14,155

And I said, so we go there and, um, I

want to send you a Vasey, which is kind

618

00:27:14,155 --> 00:27:17,945

of my, I only drink red wine when I have

Italian food and they didn't have that.

619

00:27:17,945 --> 00:27:19,024

I was like, well, I got to do Chianti.

620

00:27:19,044 --> 00:27:19,334

I got to go.

621

00:27:19,485 --> 00:27:22,764

Oh, gee, you know, just kind

of a, your basic red wine.

622

00:27:23,030 --> 00:27:26,220

Have you ever done that whole,

uh, wine country tour thing?

623

00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:28,770

You know, have you ever done

that since you're not that far?

624

00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:32,539

Virginia Gardner: Oh, we would, when

I was living in Sacramento and when

625

00:27:32,539 --> 00:27:35,610

I would come back to visit family

in Sacramento, we would go to Napa.

626

00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,980

My husband and I got married in Napa.

627

00:27:37,999 --> 00:27:39,960

We honeymooned in Tuscany.

628

00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:44,209

So we've done all the, all the

wine tours and yeah, yeah, yeah.

629

00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:45,220

I'm a big wino.

630

00:27:45,540 --> 00:27:47,129

Marc Preston: Well, I have to

ask, what was the best thing

631

00:27:47,129 --> 00:27:48,230

you had to eat in Tuscany?

632

00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:50,510

Virginia Gardner: Oh, oh my gosh.

633

00:27:50,539 --> 00:27:52,630

We went to this incredible restaurant.

634

00:27:53,165 --> 00:27:56,755

I am the worst for not being

able to remember the name,

635

00:27:56,755 --> 00:27:58,525

but it was on chef's table.

636

00:27:58,525 --> 00:28:02,965

And it's this incredible chef that

specializes in meats and he doesn't

637

00:28:02,965 --> 00:28:05,355

like to waste any of the animals.

638

00:28:05,365 --> 00:28:11,015

So he serves you all of these

incredible cuts of meat that

639

00:28:11,015 --> 00:28:12,125

ordinarily would go to waste.

640

00:28:12,125 --> 00:28:15,635

And it's all sort of a communal table

where he stands in the middle and he just.

641

00:28:15,735 --> 00:28:18,585

Grills up these meats for you

and just throw some salt on them.

642

00:28:18,585 --> 00:28:19,515

It's so simple.

643

00:28:19,515 --> 00:28:19,635

Oh man.

644

00:28:19,635 --> 00:28:19,725

That

645

00:28:19,725 --> 00:28:20,715

Marc Preston: sounds amazing.

646

00:28:20,715 --> 00:28:21,945

It was fantastic.

647

00:28:21,945 --> 00:28:22,785

Virginia Gardner: It was so great.

648

00:28:22,935 --> 00:28:25,905

Marc Preston: Did you see, um,

you know, I, I'm really bad

649

00:28:25,905 --> 00:28:27,915

about remembering people's names.

650

00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:28,035

Me too.

651

00:28:28,125 --> 00:28:29,985

, you know, uh, once, oh no.

652

00:28:29,985 --> 00:28:32,385

Stanley Tucci, he has a new, a new book.

653

00:28:32,735 --> 00:28:35,005

You know, they sent this to me

and I got to, I was gonna check

654

00:28:35,005 --> 00:28:38,345

it out, but he, it was, uh, what I

ate in one year is the name of it.

655

00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:38,605

Yeah.

656

00:28:39,535 --> 00:28:40,185

Press for him there.

657

00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:43,515

But, um, but no, he did that show

where he did traveled around Italy.

658

00:28:43,525 --> 00:28:44,145

Have you seen that?

659

00:28:44,175 --> 00:28:46,895

Virginia Gardner: Yeah, we watched it

before we went to honeymoon in Italy.

660

00:28:47,425 --> 00:28:49,625

Marc Preston: My Anthony

Bourdain was on a spirit animal.

661

00:28:49,785 --> 00:28:53,265

I was like, that is the ultimate, not

that I don't love talking to you and

662

00:28:53,265 --> 00:28:56,815

the folks that talk to you, but I'm

like, that's the gig for me is travel

663

00:28:56,865 --> 00:29:00,165

and eat and don't do the tourist thing,

but do the thing where you get like,

664

00:29:00,165 --> 00:29:01,385

you know, what are the locals do?

665

00:29:01,455 --> 00:29:01,645

Yeah.

666

00:29:02,265 --> 00:29:03,235

Virginia Gardner: I would love to do that.

667

00:29:03,235 --> 00:29:04,765

I've been trying to sell myself.

668

00:29:04,815 --> 00:29:08,705

I've been trying to sell some version

of me doing a travel show for so long

669

00:29:08,705 --> 00:29:14,245

because I just want an excuse to go and

eat and travel and try local wines and,

670

00:29:14,245 --> 00:29:16,295

and just kind of experience all of it.

671

00:29:16,345 --> 00:29:18,935

Uh, and I love, have you

seen somebody feeds Phil?

672

00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:22,855

Marc Preston: I saw an episode where

he just kind of puts himself like

673

00:29:22,855 --> 00:29:24,665

fish out of water in situations.

674

00:29:24,675 --> 00:29:25,715

Is that kind of the.

675

00:29:25,810 --> 00:29:27,640

Prim, I think I saw part of an episode.

676

00:29:27,650 --> 00:29:27,960

Yeah.

677

00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,070

He travels all over

678

00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:31,230

Virginia Gardner: the world and

tries really great restaurants.

679

00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:34,520

And whenever I travel, just cause

I love his recommendations, I'll

680

00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,610

watch his episode and try to hit

wherever he went on his show.

681

00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,940

And I was just watching his

Bangkok episode last night,

682

00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:41,440

since I'm going on Friday and,

683

00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,750

Marc Preston: and try

684

00:29:42,750 --> 00:29:44,120

Virginia Gardner: to follow his itinerary,

685

00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,710

Marc Preston: Anthony Bourdain

had a great, uh, both with, uh,

686

00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,970

parts unknown and no reservations.

687

00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:52,070

He has two, uh, great.

688

00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320

And there's a fellow, I can't

remember the chef's name, but.

689

00:29:54,430 --> 00:29:57,920

He travels to Thailand all the

time, gets recipes, come back.

690

00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,690

He's got a Thai restaurant,

but I think it's on HBO max.

691

00:30:01,710 --> 00:30:03,230

I think you find both of them.

692

00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:05,620

But I saw that as like, Holy cow.

693

00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,860

That just, it just everything about

Thailand is just seems amazing.

694

00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:09,250

Yeah.

695

00:30:09,250 --> 00:30:09,680

Virginia Gardner (2): And

696

00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,500

Marc Preston: so, sorry, we

were talking about your film and

697

00:30:11,980 --> 00:30:13,280

food came up and I went like,

698

00:30:15,370 --> 00:30:19,560

so the general premise is online

dating, just the whole dating

699

00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:21,100

thing and just kind of like.

700

00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,990

How does that hit for, you

know, for, for your generation?

701

00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:26,760

What, how would you define

what the film is about?

702

00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,810

Virginia Gardner: I mean, it's

really about, I mean, you, I think

703

00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:31,720

you hit the nail on the head.

704

00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,450

It's really about online dating and

sort of the fears of online dating.

705

00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:39,620

And we're also looping it into

with, I think something that's

706

00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:42,340

really topical right now, which

are these true crime podcasts.

707

00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:44,090

That people become so obsessed over.

708

00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,300

I love true crime podcasts and series

and all those things, but it's about

709

00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:51,560

how that can really get a little bit

of a chokehold on you and you become so

710

00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,040

obsessed and paranoid in your own life.

711

00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,220

Like I know for me, my husband is a

musician and travels a lot for work

712

00:30:58,230 --> 00:31:01,940

as do I, but if I'm at the house

alone, I can't watch true crime.

713

00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:04,260

I can't listen to true crime

podcasts because I get.

714

00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,990

It's so paranoid and we're sort of, we're

sort of doing a little bit of a social

715

00:31:08,990 --> 00:31:15,040

commentary on that as well as some of the

risks of online dating and dating apps.

716

00:31:15,060 --> 00:31:19,800

And yeah, it's sort of a fun blend

of comedy horror that we're doing.

717

00:31:19,950 --> 00:31:23,100

Marc Preston: You kind of came up in an

era where online dating was just there.

718

00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,870

It's like how people a lot of

met, but the question is, how

719

00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:26,870

did you meet your husband though?

720

00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:28,210

Virginia Gardner: On a dating app.

721

00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:29,480

Marc Preston: Really?

722

00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:29,530

Okay.

723

00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:31,900

Virginia Gardner: I'm

a fan of dating apps.

724

00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:32,610

It works for me.

725

00:31:33,165 --> 00:31:36,435

Marc Preston: I heard somewhere, I saw,

uh, something, uh, an article or a,

726

00:31:36,445 --> 00:31:41,355

I saw a newscast, something or other

that Gen Z is kind of raging against

727

00:31:41,365 --> 00:31:44,385

the whole online dating thing that

they're kind of what's old is new.

728

00:31:44,385 --> 00:31:46,625

Again, they like meeting

people more traditionally.

729

00:31:46,625 --> 00:31:47,205

I don't know.

730

00:31:47,245 --> 00:31:49,725

You know, I don't really talk to

my kids about their dating life.

731

00:31:49,725 --> 00:31:52,285

I mean, hell, my youngest

is dating somebody still.

732

00:31:52,315 --> 00:31:53,695

I still haven't met yet.

733

00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:55,475

For those listening to this

show, they were like, Oh yeah,

734

00:31:55,475 --> 00:31:57,715

I remember he talked about this

weeks ago, still haven't met this.

735

00:31:58,775 --> 00:32:02,445

Anyway, but the idea is there's

somebody out there who is.

736

00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,510

Killing people in the film, uh, that

there is killing somebody, but he's

737

00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:09,590

who he's meeting and online dating.

738

00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,500

Is that kind of the idea?

739

00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:10,800

Okay.

740

00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,140

Virginia Gardner (2): Yes.

741

00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,560

Marc Preston: And, um, uh, you're

the friend of the, the lady who's

742

00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:18,270

had going through this experience,

uh, for the most part, right.

743

00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:20,984

Or, or did you, were you

kind of dating as well?

744

00:32:21,275 --> 00:32:26,205

Virginia Gardner: Well, it's, it, it's

a very, um, spoiler heavy movie, so I'm

745

00:32:26,215 --> 00:32:31,285

trying to explain what I can without

giving away too many spoilers, but I

746

00:32:31,285 --> 00:32:38,475

play Lucy's best friend and my character

is, is very, it's funny, we filmed this

747

00:32:38,495 --> 00:32:43,125

movie before the trad wife trend sort

of took off on Instagram and TikTok.

748

00:32:43,125 --> 00:32:44,195

Do you know the trad wife?

749

00:32:44,235 --> 00:32:47,645

Marc Preston: The trad wife, you're gonna,

I feel like I'm learning things today.

750

00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:48,090

So

751

00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:51,590

Virginia Gardner: it's, um, that

kind of like the traditional wife,

752

00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,070

like you see these women on Instagram

that they'll be like, my husband was

753

00:32:57,070 --> 00:33:01,740

craving a diet Coke today, but I didn't

want to go out and buy him diet Coke.

754

00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:03,140

So, or diet Coke's a bad example.

755

00:33:03,150 --> 00:33:07,440

It'd be like Coca Cola probably where

she'd be like, so I took the sugar cane

756

00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,790

and I stripped the sugar cane and I

boiled it down to make the sugar and then

757

00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:14,839

I carbonated it with blah, blah, blah.

758

00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,020

These wives that really dedicate

their lives to their husbands.

759

00:33:19,050 --> 00:33:20,580

And that's Kelly.

760

00:33:20,590 --> 00:33:25,220

My character is, is very much a track

wife where she really upholds the sanctity

761

00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,940

of marriage, she's married and she's.

762

00:33:28,455 --> 00:33:32,535

Her POV is, it's all about being a

good wife, having a good husband,

763

00:33:32,925 --> 00:33:37,675

having, you know, like that very,

um, perfect on the outside lifestyle.

764

00:33:40,415 --> 00:33:42,885

Marc Preston: Very much the kind

of thing you're hearing on TV.

765

00:33:42,885 --> 00:33:43,175

Now.

766

00:33:43,225 --> 00:33:46,005

It's like, you know, uh,

stay home, have kids.

767

00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:46,065

Okay.

768

00:33:46,645 --> 00:33:49,015

So that's, that's kind of more

where your character is leaning.

769

00:33:49,035 --> 00:33:49,785

Virginia Gardner: Absolutely.

770

00:33:50,065 --> 00:33:51,205

She's, she's very much like that.

771

00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,880

Marc Preston: So going back to your

husband, so you met him on a dating

772

00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,550

app, but he said he's a musician.

773

00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840

First of all, I guess what

instrument does he play?

774

00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:01,900

Virginia Gardner: He is the bass

player in a band called the struts.

775

00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:07,740

They are an English rock band and

they travel all over the world.

776

00:34:07,890 --> 00:34:11,860

He's probably, he used to be gone about

11 months out of the year touring and now

777

00:34:11,860 --> 00:34:17,080

he's gone about nine months out of the

year touring, but he's gone all the time.

778

00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,670

Their work takes them all over the world.

779

00:34:18,985 --> 00:34:20,385

Marc Preston: For him,

probably the online dating.

780

00:34:20,385 --> 00:34:22,475

That's a very efficient thing,

you know, for him because, you

781

00:34:22,475 --> 00:34:23,905

know, he's only in town so long.

782

00:34:23,925 --> 00:34:27,155

He probably, you know, doesn't have

that long to kind of date around.

783

00:34:27,155 --> 00:34:29,055

So that, that worked out well for you.

784

00:34:29,245 --> 00:34:32,445

Um, so how long, uh, how

long y'all been married?

785

00:34:32,815 --> 00:34:36,645

Virginia Gardner: We've

been married two years.

786

00:34:36,645 --> 00:34:37,715

When did we get married?

787

00:34:38,835 --> 00:34:40,385

2022, right?

788

00:34:40,895 --> 00:34:42,175

No, 2023.

789

00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:46,245

My memory is garbage, but

a little two ish years.

790

00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:49,825

Marc Preston: I will say

anything past 2019 2020.

791

00:34:49,825 --> 00:34:50,595

It's a gray area.

792

00:34:50,715 --> 00:34:50,965

It's all

793

00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:51,565

Virginia Gardner: the same.

794

00:34:51,565 --> 00:34:53,535

I don't know how it's gone so fast.

795

00:34:53,535 --> 00:34:53,795

Yeah

796

00:34:54,495 --> 00:34:56,195

Marc Preston: At least it's

not just me dealing with that.

797

00:34:56,455 --> 00:34:58,375

Have you had a chance to go

on tour with them at all?

798

00:34:58,955 --> 00:35:01,995

Virginia Gardner: Um, I go on tour

occasionally when i'm sort of selfish

799

00:35:01,995 --> 00:35:05,815

I pick the fun cities that I want to go

to and i'll fly out for the fun runs,

800

00:35:05,845 --> 00:35:09,815

but being on tour is, is so tough.

801

00:35:09,855 --> 00:35:12,295

Um, you know, they're on a tour bus.

802

00:35:12,345 --> 00:35:18,505

The bunks are, gosh, I'm looking

at my table and I'm trying

803

00:35:18,505 --> 00:35:20,345

to, I would say two feet wide.

804

00:35:20,385 --> 00:35:24,905

So you're fitting two people and

these two foot wide bunks and

805

00:35:25,845 --> 00:35:28,225

it's, you're on a moving vehicle.

806

00:35:28,225 --> 00:35:30,895

I'm usually the only woman out

cause they're, they're Cruz

807

00:35:30,895 --> 00:35:32,345

Lovely, but it's all guys.

808

00:35:32,345 --> 00:35:38,255

And You're showering in the venue

showers that everyone is sharing and

809

00:35:38,265 --> 00:35:42,695

it's, it's, it's very rock and roll

lifestyle that I can do for a couple

810

00:35:42,695 --> 00:35:46,205

of days and it's fun for a couple of

days, but I, I don't know how to get

811

00:35:46,215 --> 00:35:48,095

Marc Preston: back to your,

your, your adjustable bed.

812

00:35:48,115 --> 00:35:49,585

It's a big guy.

813

00:35:50,265 --> 00:35:50,405

Yeah.

814

00:35:50,825 --> 00:35:53,015

Um, but yeah, I remember working in radio.

815

00:35:53,535 --> 00:35:56,665

The big thing is you give

away the backstage passes.

816

00:35:57,005 --> 00:36:01,150

There's all this romance behind quote

unquote backstage, Backstage really is

817

00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:05,040

the most boring, you know, it's sweaty and

818

00:36:05,050 --> 00:36:07,530

Virginia Gardner: stinky

and it's not cute backstage.

819

00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:11,020

Marc Preston: So where do you like

to be while the concert's going on?

820

00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:12,430

Do you like to kind of

be out in the audience?

821

00:36:12,430 --> 00:36:15,240

Do you like to be side stage

or are you kind of like, okay,

822

00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,410

this is my chance to be alone.

823

00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:19,500

I always want to be backstage somewhere.

824

00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:21,280

Virginia Gardner: No, I love side stage.

825

00:36:21,310 --> 00:36:23,090

I always end up watching from side stage.

826

00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:23,920

My husband.

827

00:36:24,295 --> 00:36:26,515

Is always like, no, you

got to go out in the crowd.

828

00:36:26,525 --> 00:36:28,345

The acoustics are better in the crowd.

829

00:36:28,345 --> 00:36:30,225

I sound so much better in the crowd.

830

00:36:30,225 --> 00:36:34,415

And I'm like, no, first of all, side

stage is still a novelty for me.

831

00:36:34,425 --> 00:36:38,715

I still feel very cool, you know, side

stage when I get to watch my husband

832

00:36:38,715 --> 00:36:42,855

from the sidebinds and I'm, I kind of

like being away from the crowds as well.

833

00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:46,145

But it's really fun to be able to

watch from side stage and bring all our

834

00:36:46,145 --> 00:36:48,335

friends that haven't had that experience.

835

00:36:48,335 --> 00:36:52,745

And my grandma got to come out to a show

and see a little bit from side stage.

836

00:36:52,745 --> 00:36:53,475

It's very fun.

837

00:36:53,850 --> 00:36:56,120

Marc Preston: He's sort of right

because all the acoustics, everything

838

00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,630

is designed for the audience.

839

00:36:57,740 --> 00:36:59,820

Like musically, what is your jam?

840

00:36:59,830 --> 00:37:01,930

Like, what, what kind

of things do you dig?

841

00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:05,280

Is his genre of music kind of

something you already like?

842

00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,180

Or is, are you kind of like

more into other genres?

843

00:37:09,605 --> 00:37:13,475

Virginia Gardner: I love rock music and

I am genuinely a fan of their music,

844

00:37:13,485 --> 00:37:15,125

which I've told him so many times.

845

00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:18,465

I think I would have gotten the

ick and not been that into him

846

00:37:18,465 --> 00:37:19,795

if I wasn't into their music.

847

00:37:19,795 --> 00:37:21,495

And I genuinely love their music.

848

00:37:21,495 --> 00:37:24,695

So I'm thrilled to be able to

say that they make great music.

849

00:37:24,695 --> 00:37:25,775

That's so much fun.

850

00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:28,635

Um, But I, I'm so stuck in the nineties.

851

00:37:28,635 --> 00:37:30,785

I love like nineties alt rock matchbox.

852

00:37:30,795 --> 00:37:32,115

20 is my favorite band.

853

00:37:32,115 --> 00:37:33,355

I'm obsessed with matchbox

854

00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:34,315

Marc Preston: 20.

855

00:37:35,055 --> 00:37:37,965

Well, you know, that's actually the

heyday of when I worked in music radio.

856

00:37:37,965 --> 00:37:41,985

That was all of, I think

that's the last definitive.

857

00:37:42,295 --> 00:37:43,135

Era of music.

858

00:37:43,185 --> 00:37:45,195

Like you can look at the 80s.

859

00:37:45,195 --> 00:37:46,305

You can hear music.

860

00:37:46,305 --> 00:37:46,675

Yeah.

861

00:37:46,675 --> 00:37:46,805

Okay.

862

00:37:46,835 --> 00:37:48,945

That sounds like this era nineties.

863

00:37:48,945 --> 00:37:51,175

It was kind of the last one.

864

00:37:51,205 --> 00:37:56,915

And I think nineties was, was a real

great air, like Google dolls, a dishwalla,

865

00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:58,775

you know, I'm just kind of rattling off.

866

00:37:58,795 --> 00:37:59,075

Yeah.

867

00:37:59,075 --> 00:38:01,845

I love sister Hazel.

868

00:38:01,885 --> 00:38:02,445

That was another one.

869

00:38:02,445 --> 00:38:02,625

Yeah.

870

00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:07,650

You had a lot of bands who are touring

where live shows were a lot of fun to go

871

00:38:07,650 --> 00:38:11,470

watch, you know, like which bands from

the era or some of your favorites besides

872

00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:14,940

like Goo Goo Dolls, Matchbox 20 and you

know, which got to work on the radio.

873

00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,380

Matchbox 20 had at least

one song every hour.

874

00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:17,860

I think

875

00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:20,240

Virginia Gardner: you kind

of hit all my favorites.

876

00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:23,040

Matchbox 20 to me is

I, I, they're my go to.

877

00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,640

I work out to Matchbox 20 and Rob Thomas.

878

00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:26,330

Like I am.

879

00:38:26,735 --> 00:38:28,835

Probably their biggest

and maybe youngest fan.

880

00:38:28,835 --> 00:38:30,285

I love them so much.

881

00:38:30,615 --> 00:38:34,115

Um, but I also have a really big

soft spot for some singer songwriter.

882

00:38:34,115 --> 00:38:35,075

He kind of stuff too.

883

00:38:35,075 --> 00:38:38,685

I just got into Zach Brian and I

know I'm not unique in saying that,

884

00:38:38,685 --> 00:38:40,515

but I really love Zach Brian stuff.

885

00:38:40,655 --> 00:38:41,875

Marc Preston: That's my daughters.

886

00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:48,450

Guy, Zach Brian, she gets ahold of

Spotify in the car and so when I get

887

00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:51,800

my end of year, you know, Spotify

says, here's your favorite bands as

888

00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840

Morgan Wallen was like, he's great.

889

00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,500

Don't get me wrong.

890

00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:58,030

I, you know, we all love, I'm

in Texas, you know, my country

891

00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,100

and my daughter loves country.

892

00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:00,540

But I was like, oh shit.

893

00:39:00,580 --> 00:39:00,800

Okay.

894

00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,670

He's my number one.

895

00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:03,960

I sent her a message with a screenshot.

896

00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,820

I'm like, this is what

you did to my playlist.

897

00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:09,240

Every time we're in the car,

she takes over my, uh, my phone.

898

00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:11,450

But Zach Brian.

899

00:39:11,515 --> 00:39:14,605

Was, uh, or is, you know,

he's just interesting guy.

900

00:39:14,725 --> 00:39:15,805

Uh, have you ever seen him live?

901

00:39:16,135 --> 00:39:16,525

Virginia Gardner: No.

902

00:39:16,525 --> 00:39:17,905

I'm dying to see him live.

903

00:39:17,905 --> 00:39:21,115

I've seen Matchbox 20 many times,

but I am dying to see Zach.

904

00:39:21,115 --> 00:39:22,525

Bryan, he's on my list for sure.

905

00:39:22,525 --> 00:39:22,645

He's a

906

00:39:22,645 --> 00:39:23,545

Marc Preston: great songwriter.

907

00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,645

Yeah, I think his stuff is spot on.

908

00:39:26,065 --> 00:39:30,595

Uh, there was got, I interviewed, um,

have you seen the video for Nine Ball?

909

00:39:30,775 --> 00:39:32,820

Virginia Gardner (2): No, I

actually McConaughey seen No.

910

00:39:33,205 --> 00:39:34,105

Marc Preston: Tyler Sheridan.

911

00:39:34,105 --> 00:39:35,395

Tyler, uh, Ty Sheridan.

912

00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,340

Sheridan, yes, yes, yes, yes.

913

00:39:36,805 --> 00:39:38,605

He plays Matthew McConaughey's son.

914

00:39:38,605 --> 00:39:40,735

And the whole idea about Nine Ball is.

915

00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,740

Uh, a father who's kind of a,

kind of a hot mess and his son is

916

00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:46,270

kind of, but go watch the video.

917

00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:47,460

It's just really cool.

918

00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:52,360

Um, I am jazzed about it because my

daughter, it's like she would marry

919

00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,710

him in an, in an instant, I think.

920

00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:53,910

Yeah.

921

00:39:54,610 --> 00:39:57,300

The, um, like any time

Oklahoma smoke show comes

922

00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:59,160

Virginia Gardner: on radio.

923

00:39:59,755 --> 00:40:01,945

Marc Preston: Now, when you were a

kid, what movies were you watching?

924

00:40:01,955 --> 00:40:04,775

Like what was, cause of course

you were, this was something that

925

00:40:04,775 --> 00:40:06,575

was a thing you wanted to do.

926

00:40:06,585 --> 00:40:10,505

What was there an inspiration early

on where there were films like, uh,

927

00:40:10,525 --> 00:40:13,455

of course you mentioned, you know,

I am Sam, but was there anything

928

00:40:13,455 --> 00:40:14,265

else that you were watching?

929

00:40:14,415 --> 00:40:17,779

What was, what were your jams

movie wise when you were a kid?

930

00:40:17,780 --> 00:40:19,150

Virginia Gardner: You know, I had even

931

00:40:19,150 --> 00:40:19,700

Marc Preston: TV.

932

00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,230

Virginia Gardner: Yeah.

933

00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:24,830

I had a couple of VHS tapes

that I would just watch on

934

00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:27,290

repeat cause we would go away.

935

00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:31,110

My, my parents had a little boat that

they would take us out on on the weekends.

936

00:40:31,110 --> 00:40:34,910

And so, um, I would just sit in my

little bedroom and I would just watch

937

00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:36,820

the same VHS tapes over and over again.

938

00:40:36,850 --> 00:40:38,310

So there's like six movies that I,

939

00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:39,670

Marc Preston: wait,

what is it a boat with?

940

00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:40,990

Is it a boat with cabins?

941

00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,100

It was a

942

00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,690

Virginia Gardner: little

boat with like two cabins.

943

00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,130

And so

944

00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,790

Marc Preston: how cool is

945

00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:46,879

Virginia Gardner: that?

946

00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,500

So in my little cabin, I would say, and

I would watch my VHS tapes that I had,

947

00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,080

and there was only a handful of them.

948

00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,760

So I would end up watching the

same films over and over again,

949

00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,680

but it was eternal sunshine of the

spotless mind was one of them, um,

950

00:40:59,910 --> 00:41:01,270

Marc Preston: for a little kid.

951

00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:05,630

That's a deep end of a pool when it

comes to a subject matter, if you

952

00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:07,444

will, or like concepts, you know,

953

00:41:07,535 --> 00:41:11,265

Virginia Gardner: Well, and I can't say,

I'm sure that I wasn't fully understanding

954

00:41:11,265 --> 00:41:14,705

the film, but there was something that

I, it was Focus Features at the time

955

00:41:14,705 --> 00:41:17,595

was making a lot of those movies, and I

believe Focus Features made that movie,

956

00:41:17,595 --> 00:41:23,045

I could be wrong, but I, I had this weird

sense of what I felt was like a good film

957

00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:24,459

and something that felt like a good movie.

958

00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,860

kind of artistically

elevated in some ways.

959

00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:30,640

And those were the movies that I really

found myself gravitating towards.

960

00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:34,420

So I had seen that movie a million times.

961

00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:37,770

Uh, on the other end of the spectrum,

like Mr. Deeds was another one

962

00:41:37,770 --> 00:41:40,780

that I had on VHS and I would

watch Mr. Deeds all the time.

963

00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,120

Um, those are two of my favorites.

964

00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,820

I'm trying to think of other things

that I was watching at the time.

965

00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,575

Um, Yeah.

966

00:41:47,575 --> 00:41:50,285

I mean, those two, those are the two

ones that are, that are coming up.

967

00:41:50,325 --> 00:41:51,745

Oh, like, you know, Jurassic Park.

968

00:41:51,815 --> 00:41:55,475

I grew up with Jurassic Park as

it was coming out and ET and all

969

00:41:55,475 --> 00:41:56,985

those amazing movies as well.

970

00:41:57,195 --> 00:41:59,215

Marc Preston: Well, going back to music,

how did you get into the nineties thing?

971

00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:01,225

How did that even land

as a thing you were into?

972

00:42:01,225 --> 00:42:03,135

Because you were, uh, that's a long time.

973

00:42:03,695 --> 00:42:05,905

I'm like thinking how

long the nineties were.

974

00:42:05,905 --> 00:42:08,155

And I really don't want

to think about how long

975

00:42:08,155 --> 00:42:08,545

Virginia Gardner: it is.

976

00:42:09,365 --> 00:42:12,015

Marc Preston: But how did, how did that,

there was somebody else, God, who would.

977

00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:12,650

Okay.

978

00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:13,910

It was somebody I spoke with not longer.

979

00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:16,580

They said they, uh, their mother,

you know, they just got ahold of

980

00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:19,220

their mother's playlist and, um,

981

00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:22,920

God, I got to work on the memory thing.

982

00:42:23,010 --> 00:42:24,370

I'm even as ridiculous.

983

00:42:24,370 --> 00:42:25,080

I'm taking that thing.

984

00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,770

Somebody said that lion's mane

mushroom stuff, you know, it's

985

00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:30,320

like, yeah, it's supposed to help.

986

00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:31,810

Uh, it hasn't so far.

987

00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:33,760

Uh, but I've only been on for a few weeks.

988

00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,450

We'll see how it goes.

989

00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:34,840

Virginia Gardner (2): Yeah.

990

00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:38,090

Marc Preston: But like, how did, how did

the nineties, how did the, that genre?

991

00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,550

How'd you lock into that?

992

00:42:39,590 --> 00:42:42,220

Was that something your parents were

listening to and you kind of dialed in?

993

00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:43,240

Virginia Gardner: It was my parents.

994

00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,850

I mean, I was born in 95, so I was,

you know, I missed the first five

995

00:42:46,850 --> 00:42:49,440

years of the nineties and was so

young for the last half of them.

996

00:42:49,470 --> 00:42:54,570

Um, but it was what my parents listened to

when I was younger, especially, you know,

997

00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:58,680

a lot of my formative sort of childhood

memories were on this boat and the amount

998

00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,030

of time we would spend on this boat.

999

00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:02,320

And so we would be cruising

around the Sacramento river.

00:43:03,405 --> 00:43:07,785

Matchbox 20 would be on all the time and

the background and these other nineties

00:43:07,785 --> 00:43:13,595

bands and that kind of alt rock boat rock

sort of vibe that my parents had going.

00:43:13,595 --> 00:43:14,675

So it just kind of, well,

00:43:14,675 --> 00:43:16,815

Marc Preston: I got to know what

was your favorite matchbox 20.

00:43:16,835 --> 00:43:20,305

So I'll tell, I'll tell

you mine is long day,

00:43:20,975 --> 00:43:21,325

Virginia Gardner: long day.

00:43:21,325 --> 00:43:22,645

Mine might be mad season.

00:43:22,645 --> 00:43:23,895

I love mad season.

00:43:24,210 --> 00:43:26,810

Marc Preston: My youngest loved

any, anything she can sing

00:43:26,810 --> 00:43:27,960

along to had a bad word in it.

00:43:28,210 --> 00:43:30,700

So, you know, she liked long

day cause she could do that.

00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:33,710

But anyway, but, um, now she

doesn't need a song to do that.

00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:37,150

But, um, it's just such a

pleasure for me to meet somebody

00:43:37,150 --> 00:43:38,720

that loves that era of music.

00:43:39,110 --> 00:43:41,090

Uh, it's doesn't get talked

about that much, but there was

00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:42,360

some great music coming out.

00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:43,350

It's so good.

00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:43,880

I mean,

00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,670

Virginia Gardner: yeah, and

it was very, just feel good.

00:43:46,670 --> 00:43:47,680

It was catchy.

00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,280

It had real instruments.

00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,230

It wasn't the computerized

drums and computerized.

00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:53,100

Everything.

00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:56,940

It was this real music and so fun,

live and had this great energy to it.

00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:01,590

And I felt a lot of the lyrics were

really saying something and, uh, yeah.

00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:05,580

You know, I, I could go on and on, but to

me, that's just such a fun era of music.

00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:08,970

My workout playlist to this day is

like exclusively nineties songs,

00:44:09,590 --> 00:44:10,160

Marc Preston: tonic.

00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:13,610

Uh, I remember talking the lead

singer of that, of, uh, Tony.

00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:14,181

Oh, fun.

00:44:14,186 --> 00:44:15,620

And, um, if you can, yeah.

00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,470

Uh, you know, if you can

only s if you can only sing.

00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:18,560

Yeah.

00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:18,890

Yeah.

00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:19,370

Great song.

00:44:19,375 --> 00:44:19,545

Yeah.

00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:22,070

And I asked him, I said, where

that, where did that song.

00:44:22,335 --> 00:44:25,445

Come from, cause you know, you're

married to a musician and I love

00:44:25,455 --> 00:44:27,015

the idea of how did the song come?

00:44:27,065 --> 00:44:28,395

How did the songs come together?

00:44:28,395 --> 00:44:31,705

Like talk to Richard Marcs, his song

he did called Angelia, which I liked.

00:44:31,735 --> 00:44:35,895

And he was like, he was on an American

airlines flight and the flight

00:44:35,895 --> 00:44:37,865

attendant had a name text at Angelia.

00:44:37,955 --> 00:44:38,935

So it wasn't a real story.

00:44:38,985 --> 00:44:40,415

It's just, he built it

out of that, you know?

00:44:41,135 --> 00:44:45,195

But the guy for, for, uh, Tonic, he was

like, uh, yeah, you know, there was this.

00:44:45,465 --> 00:44:48,775

There's a, somebody I was dating,

uh, everybody in my family said

00:44:48,775 --> 00:44:50,625

that, uh, don't, don't be with them.

00:44:50,625 --> 00:44:53,815

They're bad news, but you're, but there's

like, but if you could only see that,

00:44:53,825 --> 00:44:56,865

you know, you don't think when you're in

that relationship, you're making excuses.

00:44:57,475 --> 00:45:01,605

I walked right into that kind of a

relationship immediately thereafter.

00:45:01,605 --> 00:45:05,005

And it was so funny as it was kind

of on the back end and family,

00:45:05,015 --> 00:45:07,485

friends like, yeah, she's really

not, you know, ended up marrying her.

00:45:08,045 --> 00:45:11,675

Um, because you look at music

and the lyrics is like it.

00:45:12,110 --> 00:45:16,050

It's so good when you can see

it comes from a place, a story.

00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,180

Does your husband write music?

00:45:19,210 --> 00:45:21,740

Does he, is that kind of, or

does he kind of stick to the

00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:23,810

instrumental aspect of things?

00:45:24,070 --> 00:45:26,910

Virginia Gardner: He writes some of his

own stuff, but when it comes to his work

00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:30,000

in the band, they all write together

sometimes, but it's, it's often there.

00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,940

Singer and their lead guitarists that

sort of take the, take the lead on

00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:35,550

the songwriting stuff for their band.

00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:39,290

But I, you know, as a big music fan,

it's so fun to me to hear about how

00:45:39,290 --> 00:45:43,130

their sessions go and how they create

these songs and how sometimes it's a

00:45:43,150 --> 00:45:46,940

beat first and then it's lyrics, or

sometimes it's someone that's going.

00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:47,820

It's a

00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:51,850

Marc Preston: lyric or if it's the music

and you know, somebody hears something

00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:55,780

there maybe is a word or phrase or like,

you know, something that just sets it off.

00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:59,490

I've never been a music writer

person, uh, but I, I'm, I'm

00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,890

fascinated by how songs come together.

00:46:02,810 --> 00:46:04,500

Does he have a studio space

at home where he record?

00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,700

Beautiful poetry.

00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:06,140

Yes.

00:46:07,170 --> 00:46:10,730

But does he have a recording space

at home that he kind of works out?

00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,910

Virginia Gardner: We have a guest

bedroom, but it's now mostly his

00:46:14,910 --> 00:46:16,720

studio and there's a bed in it.

00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:20,060

So he's, he's taken over the guest

bedroom with his little makeshift.

00:46:20,060 --> 00:46:24,350

Hopefully one day we'll have a space where

he can have a full, you know, full studio.

00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:26,170

That's not also a

bedroom, but for now it's

00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:35,480

Marc Preston: Before we get going,

I always like to do something

00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,900

I call my seven questions.

00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,390

Uh, it's always kind of the way

I like to get a couple things out

00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:43,910

there I think are fun and I always

talk about food as I mentioned.

00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:49,270

So I got to know what is your favorite,

uh, if you say comfort food, what

00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:50,760

immediately comes to mind for you?

00:46:50,930 --> 00:46:51,810

Virginia Gardner: Indian food.

00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,020

Love Indian food.

00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:53,590

Love a curry.

00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:57,100

Marc Preston: I live on an Island

in South Texas now, uh, right on

00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,370

the tip of Texas, South Padre.

00:46:59,370 --> 00:47:00,930

And we don't, we don't have.

00:47:01,250 --> 00:47:03,050

Any of that kind of ethics stuff here.

00:47:03,050 --> 00:47:05,390

I'm like, I need Indian and I need tie.

00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,750

And I said that the other day, I was

like, I've not had that in a while.

00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:08,540

I'm going through withdrawal.

00:47:08,570 --> 00:47:09,980

Virginia Gardner: Oh, I would be so sad.

00:47:09,980 --> 00:47:10,400

I love it.

00:47:10,610 --> 00:47:13,970

Once a week I usually have

like a, either a tie or, or an

00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:15,400

Indian food, curry, something.

00:47:15,810 --> 00:47:17,190

Marc Preston: Guys had

turkey sandwich for lunch.

00:47:17,610 --> 00:47:19,570

Now, if you're going to say you had

three people you're going to sit down

00:47:19,570 --> 00:47:22,380

with and you're going to talk story

for a few hours now living or not,

00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:24,470

who would you like to sit down with?

00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:28,270

And who do you, who would be fun to

have coffee with for a few hours?

00:47:28,540 --> 00:47:31,510

Virginia Gardner: I mean, we've talked

so much about Matchbox 20 today.

00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:32,910

I gotta go rob Thomas.

00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,070

I would love to sit down.

00:47:34,090 --> 00:47:35,090

I've met him once.

00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:36,720

He, um, Really?

00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:37,100

I did.

00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:40,730

He, he thought my name was Jenny, not

Ginny, but I was like, that's okay.

00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:42,550

Whatever you want to call me, it's okay.

00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,720

Marc Preston: Wait, wait, he thought,

he thought your name was Jenny,

00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,930

Virginia Gardner: like J E N N Y. When

we were, uh, when we were introduced, he

00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:50,160

was like, Oh, nice to meet you, Jenny.

00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,840

And I was like, I'm not

even going to correct him.

00:47:51,860 --> 00:47:53,940

He can call me whatever

he wants to call me.

00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:54,410

It's okay.

00:47:54,810 --> 00:47:57,210

Um, so I would love to

have Rob Thomas there.

00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,840

I would love to chat with, oh my gosh.

00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:06,670

Um, I would love, oh my gosh, whenever

I'm on the spot with these kinds of

00:48:06,670 --> 00:48:08,180

questions, I can't think of anybody.

00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:10,700

Um, Kate Winslet, I'm a huge fan of hers.

00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,750

I think she's a fantastic performer.

00:48:12,750 --> 00:48:15,270

I would love to be able to chat

with her about what she does.

00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:16,420

And.

00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:20,700

Let me go like a filmmaker that I

would be excited to sit and chat with.

00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:28,310

I would love to talk to,

um, let's go John Malkovich.

00:48:28,310 --> 00:48:29,600

I love John Malkovich.

00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,420

I'd love to chat with John Malkovich.

00:48:32,050 --> 00:48:34,330

Marc Preston: You know, no, but I don't

think anybody said that, but that would be

00:48:35,180 --> 00:48:35,990

Virginia Gardner: kind of a nut rash

00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:36,640

Marc Preston: more guys.

00:48:37,210 --> 00:48:38,820

I would love to sit down with him.

00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:39,250

Virginia Gardner (2): Yeah.

00:48:39,310 --> 00:48:42,800

Marc Preston: He just seems kind of

not out there, but, uh, just enough

00:48:43,010 --> 00:48:48,150

like I would like to have him and, um,

uh, uh, uh, God, he's in slow horses.

00:48:49,335 --> 00:48:51,785

Virginia Gardner: Between the two of

us, we'll never know anyone's name ever.

00:48:54,815 --> 00:48:56,515

Marc Preston: But I've

been watching slow horses

00:48:56,525 --> 00:48:56,965

Virginia Gardner: recently.

00:48:56,965 --> 00:48:58,185

I know what you're talking about.

00:48:58,305 --> 00:49:01,845

Marc Preston: You know, of course I have

to do this for the sake of, uh, God,

00:49:01,905 --> 00:49:04,795

this is, this is really Gary Oldman.

00:49:04,945 --> 00:49:05,675

Gary Oldman.

00:49:05,675 --> 00:49:06,235

Gary Oldman.

00:49:06,235 --> 00:49:06,435

Yeah.

00:49:06,435 --> 00:49:06,435

Yeah.

00:49:06,435 --> 00:49:06,785

Yeah.

00:49:06,785 --> 00:49:10,475

Like, like Everything he's

in, it was like, uh, like the

00:49:10,475 --> 00:49:11,815

professional all the way on.

00:49:11,815 --> 00:49:13,925

It's like, God, the guy just like,

he could literally do everything.

00:49:14,135 --> 00:49:17,045

So getting a couple of people together

like that is just like, what would

00:49:17,045 --> 00:49:19,345

they talk about to get that to me?

00:49:19,695 --> 00:49:20,015

Virginia Gardner: Yeah.

00:49:20,455 --> 00:49:22,405

Marc Preston: Um, now if, if

we're going next question, going

00:49:22,415 --> 00:49:24,095

back when you were a young Jenny.

00:49:24,745 --> 00:49:26,505

Who was your first celebrity crush?

00:49:28,105 --> 00:49:30,355

Virginia Gardner: Johnny

Depp, which maybe, I don't

00:49:30,355 --> 00:49:32,545

know, not to be controversial.

00:49:32,545 --> 00:49:37,205

I know he's not, um, everyone's

favorite person at the moment, but, but

00:49:37,215 --> 00:49:42,235

at the time, Johnny Depp and Pirates

of the Caribbean was my total crush.

00:49:42,235 --> 00:49:45,905

Probably my first, yeah, my

first like crush ever was.

00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:49,700

probably Johnny Depp Pirates of the

Caribbean as a pirate specifically.

00:49:49,710 --> 00:49:49,730

Though,

00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:52,190

Marc Preston: if you're, let's say

your next question, you're going to

00:49:52,190 --> 00:49:56,040

be living on an Island, uh, an exotic

Island, something beautiful, a resort,

00:49:56,430 --> 00:49:59,180

uh, somewhere you want to be, but

you got to be there an entire year.

00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:01,150

There's no streaming,

no internet, no nothing.

00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,870

You got it.

00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,190

So you can bring one movie.

00:50:03,725 --> 00:50:08,685

And like on DVD, and you can

bring one CD with you, uh, you

00:50:08,685 --> 00:50:10,415

can listen to over and over again.

00:50:10,415 --> 00:50:12,055

So you can watch over and over again.

00:50:12,455 --> 00:50:13,605

What would that DVD be?

00:50:13,605 --> 00:50:14,855

And what would that CD be?

00:50:15,375 --> 00:50:16,855

Virginia Gardner: I don't think

I'm going to say anything new.

00:50:16,855 --> 00:50:19,225

I'm going to go back to

Matchbox 20 probably.

00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:22,115

I think the album is Exile on Mainstream.

00:50:22,235 --> 00:50:25,665

So I would go Exile on Mainstream

and then I would go Eternal

00:50:25,665 --> 00:50:27,035

Sunshine of the Spotless Minds.

00:50:27,035 --> 00:50:30,655

Those are such comforting,

uh, pieces of art for me.

00:50:30,655 --> 00:50:32,245

I would, I would happily watch.

00:50:32,585 --> 00:50:34,365

And listen to both of those forever.

00:50:34,465 --> 00:50:34,845

Love them.

00:50:35,235 --> 00:50:35,405

Marc Preston: Yeah.

00:50:35,405 --> 00:50:37,525

The Jim Carrey is somebody

I would love to sit down.

00:50:37,535 --> 00:50:38,065

Yeah.

00:50:38,255 --> 00:50:38,795

He's, he's

00:50:38,805 --> 00:50:39,505

Virginia Gardner: fascinating.

00:50:39,505 --> 00:50:39,905

Yeah.

00:50:40,035 --> 00:50:41,855

Marc Preston: We did kind of

answer that question previously.

00:50:41,855 --> 00:50:44,345

I was like, if you chose something

besides matchbox 20, I would be like,

00:50:44,365 --> 00:50:49,545

really, from the time you get up to

the time, next question, uh, time

00:50:49,645 --> 00:50:51,194

you get up to the time you go to bed.

00:50:52,175 --> 00:50:55,055

For you would be the definition

of a perfect day, the component

00:50:55,055 --> 00:50:57,935

parts, the things that would

comprise that perfect day for you.

00:50:58,715 --> 00:51:00,215

Virginia Gardner: For me, a perfect day.

00:51:02,065 --> 00:51:03,625

I love exercising.

00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:07,645

Starting my day with exercise is something

that to me is like a luxury that, that

00:51:07,645 --> 00:51:09,505

I, I look forward to every single day.

00:51:09,505 --> 00:51:12,445

So it would have to be a gym session.

00:51:12,565 --> 00:51:17,615

Um, I love an ice bath, a little

bit of a three minute ice bath.

00:51:17,705 --> 00:51:19,085

Uh, and then.

00:51:19,525 --> 00:51:19,865

I would,

00:51:19,975 --> 00:51:22,985

Marc Preston: Oh gosh, I don't know if

you're, you're climbing these towers

00:51:23,025 --> 00:51:26,315

and in the ice bath, you're choosing two

things I think are the most unpleasant

00:51:27,025 --> 00:51:27,865

Virginia Gardner: wild behavior.

00:51:28,605 --> 00:51:29,135

Um,

00:51:29,165 --> 00:51:30,405

Marc Preston: but what, what do

you get out of the, well, I'm

00:51:30,405 --> 00:51:31,815

curious, the ice bath, what is it?

00:51:31,845 --> 00:51:33,815

Does it, does it make

you feel invigorated?

00:51:34,065 --> 00:51:36,635

What exactly does that do?

00:51:36,635 --> 00:51:37,835

Because I know people who like to do that.

00:51:37,835 --> 00:51:40,865

There's even these nitrogen things

you, Oh, I used to do that like

00:51:41,105 --> 00:51:41,775

Virginia Gardner: three times a week.

00:51:41,775 --> 00:51:42,515

I love those.

00:51:43,135 --> 00:51:44,105

Marc Preston: What is it you get?

00:51:44,105 --> 00:51:44,885

I'm curious.

00:51:45,435 --> 00:51:48,670

And I don't mean to sound reductive at

all, but what do you get out of that?

00:51:48,670 --> 00:51:50,435

Virginia Gardner: It's a little

bit of an adrenaline rush.

00:51:50,445 --> 00:51:52,875

I also, for me, my, I feel clear.

00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:57,365

I feel, uh, like my, any brain fog

or anything sort of dissipates.

00:51:57,365 --> 00:52:00,185

And it's, I don't know, your,

your body just feels a little

00:52:00,185 --> 00:52:03,145

bit like tighter and, and good.

00:52:03,145 --> 00:52:04,335

And it's great for recovery.

00:52:04,335 --> 00:52:06,795

If you're a little bit sore or

something, or, or, or if you're a

00:52:06,855 --> 00:52:09,745

little hung over, honestly, it's

like a great hangover cure as well.

00:52:09,745 --> 00:52:13,805

So it just kind of is a good reset to

me, a little body reset that I love.

00:52:14,075 --> 00:52:15,745

Marc Preston: I saw an

episode of Anthony Bourdain.

00:52:15,745 --> 00:52:18,625

I think it was, uh, I think

it was no reservations.

00:52:18,625 --> 00:52:21,375

He did that and they explain

what it does physiologically.

00:52:21,385 --> 00:52:24,995

It makes your body, I hear like friends up

north talking about how cold it's getting.

00:52:24,995 --> 00:52:25,905

I'm like, yeah, you can keep

00:52:25,935 --> 00:52:26,035

Virginia Gardner (2): that.

00:52:26,035 --> 00:52:27,014

You're

00:52:27,015 --> 00:52:28,065

Marc Preston: 54 degrees right now.

00:52:28,065 --> 00:52:28,965

And to me, this is freezing.

00:52:29,575 --> 00:52:32,435

Um, but You know, I

resisted a lot of times.

00:52:32,485 --> 00:52:35,275

If you think something's not

going to be cool, you go do it.

00:52:35,275 --> 00:52:39,515

Like, okay, you might actually

might like, yeah, yeah.

00:52:39,515 --> 00:52:42,765

Well, we'll, we'll, we'll think

I'll contemplate that actually.

00:52:42,775 --> 00:52:45,195

That sounds, but now

I'm thinking about it.

00:52:45,235 --> 00:52:49,465

Maybe that'll be a good, now, if you,

if you were looking, uh, you know, this

00:52:49,465 --> 00:52:50,605

is what you're doing for a living now.

00:52:50,945 --> 00:52:55,425

If this was not an option for you, where

do you think you'd find joy as another

00:52:55,435 --> 00:52:57,645

vocation besides doing this thing?

00:53:00,175 --> 00:53:02,615

Virginia Gardner: My answer has

always previously been therapy.

00:53:02,615 --> 00:53:06,105

I, like being a therapist, I'm

so fascinated by people and the

00:53:06,115 --> 00:53:09,555

study of people and, and having

conversations that I think that would

00:53:09,555 --> 00:53:11,315

just be a really fascinating career.

00:53:11,705 --> 00:53:15,625

So I, I would have to say that, or

also I've, I've really recently gotten

00:53:15,625 --> 00:53:18,305

into sort of home design and DIY and.

00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:23,890

Painting and constructing stuff and,

and sort of, um, trying to get a lot

00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:26,200

of housework stuff done by myself.

00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,700

And I'm really enjoying that process.

00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:30,550

So maybe something like that now.

00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:33,690

Marc Preston: I say the idea

of you doing the traveling

00:53:33,850 --> 00:53:36,010

cooking kind of like food thing.

00:53:36,010 --> 00:53:36,280

Yeah.

00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:38,020

That would be, I would love it.

00:53:38,225 --> 00:53:41,295

And by the way, I, you know, his travel

channel doesn't play those things anymore.

00:53:41,295 --> 00:53:42,355

It's all like haunted stuff.

00:53:42,355 --> 00:53:43,825

I'm like, I miss those shows.

00:53:43,845 --> 00:53:46,485

Like, you know, the travel type

stuff, because I'm like thinking

00:53:46,515 --> 00:53:48,055

that would be a great gig to have.

00:53:48,065 --> 00:53:48,445

Virginia Gardner (2): Yeah.

00:53:48,525 --> 00:53:50,155

Marc Preston: Um, I'll

keep my fingers crossed.

00:53:50,165 --> 00:53:50,425

Thanks.

00:53:50,735 --> 00:53:51,355

Do that one day.

00:53:51,785 --> 00:53:56,475

Uh, now the last question I got for you

is if you were to jump on that Delorean,

00:53:56,495 --> 00:54:02,435

go back in time to 16 year old you, what

piece of advice would you have for you?

00:54:02,855 --> 00:54:07,145

Uh, either to make that moment somehow

better or put yourself on a track, a

00:54:07,145 --> 00:54:11,105

path You know, a better path if you

will, but just what would that piece

00:54:11,105 --> 00:54:12,585

of advice be to 16 year old you?

00:54:13,555 --> 00:54:17,995

Virginia Gardner: I just think the advice

would be just trust in yourself and

00:54:18,005 --> 00:54:23,235

trust that, that what's meant to work

out will work out in that will, you know,

00:54:23,355 --> 00:54:27,555

whenever people come to me and say, do

you have any advice for young actors?

00:54:27,555 --> 00:54:31,825

I always hesitate to give this

advice, but, but it's truly.

00:54:32,505 --> 00:54:36,455

I think that the only reason that I've

really been able to sustain the career

00:54:36,455 --> 00:54:41,135

that I have is I've never had a plan B

and I never had a high school diploma.

00:54:41,165 --> 00:54:42,905

I didn't have a college degree.

00:54:42,925 --> 00:54:46,285

There was never anything that

I felt I could fall back on.

00:54:46,285 --> 00:54:47,645

And so many times.

00:54:47,855 --> 00:54:50,284

And when you're in this industry

in this line of work, you have

00:54:50,284 --> 00:54:51,585

your heart broken again and again.

00:54:51,625 --> 00:54:55,905

And I would have walked away

so many times if I had anything

00:54:55,905 --> 00:54:57,055

I could have fallen back on.

00:54:57,055 --> 00:55:00,275

But I had nothing other than

you have to make this work.

00:55:00,315 --> 00:55:04,965

And that's been a really valuable

thing for me as is not having

00:55:04,965 --> 00:55:08,015

anything to fall back on, but just

sticking with this and making it work.

00:55:08,015 --> 00:55:09,105

I think it helps with focus.

00:55:09,145 --> 00:55:09,585

Yes.

00:55:09,855 --> 00:55:12,495

Marc Preston: Don't don't that like,

you know, I've talked to so many

00:55:12,495 --> 00:55:13,985

people that said this is, I just.

00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:15,910

There are other things they're

passionate, they can see being a

00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:17,230

teacher or something like that.

00:55:17,230 --> 00:55:20,700

But as far as practically, they can't

see themselves doing anything else.

00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:24,830

And so some people may interpret

that as being hard headed.

00:55:25,330 --> 00:55:27,480

I just think it's just like, you

know, you're following your heart.

00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,300

You know, I think that's, I think

there's a wonderful Zen to that.

00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:30,560

Me too.

00:55:30,850 --> 00:55:32,960

I really just enjoyed,

uh, sitting down with you.

00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,320

I really appreciate you taking time out.

00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,890

I love, I love the, uh, little

like, you know, sun behind you

00:55:36,890 --> 00:55:38,060

makes you look almost holy.

00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:40,270

I'm backlit.

00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,400

I'm also sweating.

00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,730

Virginia Gardner: It's so

hot in this corner now.

00:55:44,530 --> 00:55:46,290

Marc Preston: It's great to meet

somebody else who has such a

00:55:46,290 --> 00:55:47,910

love of the, uh, nineties music.

00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:52,370

Nineties music and food.

00:55:52,370 --> 00:55:53,040

Yes, indeed.

00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,470

Well, do you have anything else

in the, uh, in the queue that's

00:55:55,470 --> 00:55:57,110

coming out anytime soon as well?

00:55:57,180 --> 00:55:57,580

Virginia Gardner: I do.

00:55:57,580 --> 00:56:00,430

I have a movie called the breed

apart, which is coming out.

00:56:00,565 --> 00:56:03,495

I think maybe in the next couple

of months, maybe like May, April

00:56:03,495 --> 00:56:06,875

of this year, um, which is a sequel

to a movie called The Breed that

00:56:06,875 --> 00:56:08,525

was released about 20 years ago.

00:56:08,525 --> 00:56:11,395

So it's a fun kind of re

imagining of that movie.

00:56:11,435 --> 00:56:15,625

And then I made a movie called

Killer Whale in Australia a few

00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:18,635

months ago, which is really fun and

that'll be out sometime this year.

00:56:19,780 --> 00:56:20,430

Marc Preston: Fantastic.

00:56:20,430 --> 00:56:21,370

Well, thank you.

00:56:21,380 --> 00:56:21,860

Thank you.

00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:22,380

Thank you.

00:56:22,420 --> 00:56:26,350

Uh, it's been a pleasure and I'm going to

go look up your, uh, the struts going to

00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:27,740

Virginia Gardner: check them out.

00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,110

Marc Preston: I wish you nothing but

the best and hopefully you'll have

00:56:30,110 --> 00:56:31,770

a chance to catch up down the line.

00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,420

Virginia Gardner: Awesome.

00:56:32,420 --> 00:56:33,020

Thank you, Marc.

00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:33,690

I appreciate it.

00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:34,540

Thanks for having me.

00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,060

Marc Preston: All right.

00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,690

There you go.

00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:42,350

Virginia or Jenny Gardner really

enjoyed the conversation again.

00:56:42,350 --> 00:56:44,720

The new movie is called F Mary kill.

00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:46,500

It is in theaters right now.

00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,720

She stars alongside Lucy Hale.

00:56:48,970 --> 00:56:52,880

Uh, and of course it was directed by

Laura Murphy, who was just on the show.

00:56:53,170 --> 00:56:54,140

A few days ago.

00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:57,860

Again, this is F Mary kill week

here on story and craft, apparently.

00:56:58,290 --> 00:56:58,970

So check it out.

00:56:58,970 --> 00:57:00,030

I really enjoy the movie.

00:57:00,030 --> 00:57:00,780

It's a great mix.

00:57:00,790 --> 00:57:02,450

Horror, comedy, good time.

00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,530

I think you'll enjoy it

in theaters right now.

00:57:05,570 --> 00:57:06,620

So check it out.

00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:11,570

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Uh, I'm going to jump on out of here.

00:57:27,460 --> 00:57:28,310

It is Friday.

00:57:28,310 --> 00:57:30,350

That means the weekend is upon us.

00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:34,270

Uh, I got a puppy laying on the

floor right here who is, uh, been

00:57:34,270 --> 00:57:35,750

waiting for me to take him outside.

00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:37,320

So that's what we're up to right now.

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Uh, you go have a great weekend and

I want to thank you as always for

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Part of what you've got going on.

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